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August 13, 2012

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Porchlight

That sucks about Kodak. I hate seeing these great companies fall by the wayside, even if it is due to bad management. I sincerely hope GE can cast out Immelt and right the ship with a new Welch type someday.

Danube of Thought

"Have we got a dud on our hands?"

Another bad day at your shit job, fuckhead? One thing for sure, you'll still be in it (if you're lucky) four years from now. Guaranteed.

And enjoyed immensely by me.

narciso

Since 'Wild Palms' which was quite nearly as bizarre as the Olympic's closing ceremony, although with a body count like the last act
in Hamlet, I've stayed away from Wagner,

Dave (in MA)

Did you check to see if maybe the Farm Bill passed the House over a week ago and that maybe Ryan was one of the Ayes before you pasted that in from DailyKoS, dudu?

peter

The Yankees beat the Texas Rangers tonight using a fifth starter and a washed up ex-Red Sock as a reliever. Life is good.
At one point a pitcher named Lowe was pitching for both teams.

dublindave

Still Trollin' and Stumblin' Dave?


I love when they give me a reason to post even more left-wing bile. Ahhhhh, God help them but they're so easy to wind up.

Eh yeah, Boris, still stumbling ( that's my 'in' ). My point is that in just one simple utterance Ryan demonstrated a chilling antipathy towards American farmers. Would it be fair to extend Ryan's lack of human empathy to America's seniors? How bout America's poor? How bout the little children who will die because of Paul ryans plan?

Dave (in MA)

Porchlight, equally sad to see what has become of Polaroid.

DrJ

Porch,

That sucks about Kodak.

Indeed. I was in their Research Labs back when it was something special. I still have friends there. They are all looking for other, ahem, opportunities. As well they should.

One irony is that Eastman Chemical, spun out by the Great Yellow Father, has done rather well.

Captain Hate

we used to do the first eponymous Allman album as a set.

I pretty much wore the grooves off the first one. I think the first time I saw them they played "Black Hearted Woman" and "Dreams" and then subsequently dropped them from their set lists.

dublindave

Did you check to see if maybe the Farm Bill passed the House over a week ago and that maybe Ryan was one of the Ayes before you pasted that in from Daily KOs, dude?


I did and guess what? I don't care.

Rich people, get your tits out because there are a lot of hungry mouths to feed once Ryan's plan has been exposed and Obama gets a second term.

Danube of Thought

Maybe not so young, CH.Llet's just say excusably stupid. All I ask of them is their music.

Dave, we know we're going to win, and delight in watching that fact dawn on you.

How many children will die under Ryan's plan? Well, it depends a great deal on their parents. If they work hard, play by the rules, save and invest prudently, all will be well. That's what we call the "American Dream."

But if they don't do those things, not so much. That's what we call "tough tit."

Perhaps this is no country for Irish louts.

Dave (in MA)
Heh. Dublin Dave has it. As an actor, I give Biden the edge. Rmoney tries to act like he cares about anything, other than himself, and I doubt the wet-behind-the-Jug-ears, Ryan, is any better.
Really? You're pulling for Soetoro McMudflaps and THAT's the nic you want to hang on Ryan?
Dave (in MA)

Well I certainly Bidened that blockquote.

Clarice

Niters, I'm trying to picture Andrea Mitchell hanging with her suburban housewife friends when this is all over.

Jim Ryan

Barack Obama and Joseph Biden are able to comprehend Paul Ryan's fiscal policy speeches.

Barack Obama grew up steeped in the American experience and throughout his life has surrounded himself with patriotic Americans who love this country.

Both Obama and Biden have accrued a long list of accomplishments during their careers.

We need to maintain spending at current levels. Fiscal shortfalls can be handled by increasing taxes on the wealthy.

We've tried free-market trickle down and it doesn't work. It's what got us into this mess.

We should look to the European model in restructuring our health-care, fiscal, and social policies.

CFL light bulbs will help cool the earth.

The solution to American transportation problems is railways and small electric automobiles.

Jim Ryan

People who drop out of high school, get pregnant or avoid work end up unluckily poverty stricken.

Ignatz


Railways to nowhere, Jim.

Ignatz

At the risk of taking myself to the lowest caste of JOM, I must confess to having four or five Pat Boone songs on my itunes and no ABB.
Duane I liked; Greg, couldn't really stand. His vocals always sounded like the producers cut em right before he projectile vomited. There was a liquid quality to his voice, and it didn't sound like honey to me.

Jim Ryan

1. The Old Regime gave a tiny elite had all the power and wealth.

2. The free-market system is where anyone has an opportunity to become wealthy and power is diffused.

3. The progressive society gives a tiny elite all the power and wealth.

Some guy

DD - Ryan...a chilling antipathy towards American farmers.

This is comedy gold!

Or pure irony iron.

Actually both, since only a fool would think the Amateur has anything BUT antipathy toward farmers.

Strawman Cometh

It's Gunny Highway. Are the 70's flash backs messing with your mind?

Dave (in MA)

In my case, the reverse peristalsis would occur upon hearing the aforementioned Mr. Boone. Or the Barry Manilow that occupies the spousal iPod.

Jim Ryan

People who stayed in school, waited until marriage to get pregnant, and took any job they could find were the lucky ones.

bgates

There is nothing wrong with the Park Service describing the killing of American servicemen by Sioux during the Indian wars as "fortunate".

(That's an actual sentiment expressed by an Althouse commenter. I don't know where Jim's getting his stuff.)

Some guy

People who drop out of high school, get pregnant or avoid work end up unluckily poverty stricken.

Not to be argumentative Mr. Ryan, but there are many people who do the first two and still manage to make good lives for themselves.

Where you won't get argument is the third (unless they become community organizers and/or democratic pols).

Ann

That's hardly fair. I'm pretty sure our side has the exact same negotiators as the other side. bgates 8:50

Correct:
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Arse kisser, Chris Wallace and his wife, Lorraine, vacationed with George Clooney last week on Lake Como.
Wonder if they all went skinny dipping withDavid Gergen

C, It must kill poor, Andrea, to be out of the special invites. All she ever gets to cover is beautiful, smart, Palin on her whopping financial, money making book tours. Ha!

Jim Ryan

Some guy, yeah, I screwed the wording of that one up. Sleepy. The factoid is that graduating, waiting until marriage to get pregnant, and taking a job mean your likelihood of poverty is 2%.

Ignatz

--Wonder if they all went skinny dipping withDavid Gergen--

None are using a white cane from the flash blindness brought about when he takes his shirt off so my guess is "no".

Sara

once Ryan's plan has been exposed

Oh not to worry, doodoo, Americans aren't nearly as stupid as you think. They already understand the truth of Ryan's plan, not the perpetual lies produced by the left's prevarication machine.

And guess what, Ryan's favorables are up, his plan is in favorable numbers with seniors. And "the folks," rich and poor, have Barack "He's a LIAR" Obama's number and that is why he and all the lying sleazes that work for him are toast.

daddy

Good Morning!

Local news over here reporting that a 7.3 earthquake just hit north of Hokkaido, Japan's northern big island. No word yet on any potential Tsunami damage so hopefully it won't be of big consequence.

I had noticed yesterday via my LUN that we just had a 6.2 shaker last week out in the Aleutians.

jimmyk

None are using a white cane from the flash blindness brought about when he takes his shirt off so my guess is "no".

I, on the other hand, had to quickly reach for a barf bag at the mere thought of that scenario.

Jim Ryan

where Jim's getting his stuff

From this nut who hangs out in my head. He's absorbed years of the most inane drivel by listening and reading and he gets a perverse delight out of making me type it all down in concise summary form. He's married to my muse. When she takes a nap, he starts running his mouth.

Dave (in MA)
skinny dipping withDavid Gergen
Pardon me while I dump Clorox into my mind's eye.
Ignatz

Good to see the Romney camp is getting its money's worth out of WeeDavey again.
He was merely loathsome there for a bit, but has got himself back on track as utterly alienating of anyone short of a Marxist or unrepentant terrorist.
Kudos, Inchworm.

Jim Ryan

Some of the terrorists confessed after being subjected to a four-hour VHS of Mark Shields commentaries and an hour and a half of A Prarie Home Companion.

Danube of Thought

Even a nutball Zogby is catching a whiff:

"Picking Rep. Paul Ryan as his GOP running mate is working for presidential candidate Mitt Romney. According to a new JZ Analytics poll conducted after Ryan was picked on Saturday and provided to Secrets, the race is now dead even, 46 percent to 46 percent. Only 8 percent of likely voters are undecided.

"'Hot on the heels of Mitt Romney's vice presidential choice of Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan, the race between Obama and Romney seems to be tightening. There is little doubt that Romney's choice of Ryan has excited the Republican base, 88 percent of whom now support the new ticket," said the poll. JZ Analytics, founded by Jonathan Zogby, is the heir to the Zogby poll founded by his father, John Zogby."

I will taunt and humiliate the losers forever.

Ignatz

And, good night.

Dave (in MA)

While I was typing that, one of my Al Gore pigtail bulbs went supernova and then dark, and it gave off a burning electronics smell. I replaced it with an Edison.

Jim Ryan

The Democratic leadership in Congress and the White House base their policies on a thorough and empirically well-founded understanding of economics.

Ann

LOL, Ignatz

Jim Ryan

Dave, the CFLs won't subject your skin to harmful UV and will not release mercury vapor when broken. They will, however, help cool the planet.

Jim Ryan

We need to make people live in high rises, buy organic, take light rail, and get over their reactionary obsession with the American Founding period, the rule of law, and God's love.

Danube of Thought

Oh, the joy. The sheer, unadulterated joy:

"The recent frantic email theme to supporters from Team Obama about Mitt Romney's run-away fundraising successes has been expanded to the crowd size gap between the thousands who rushed out over the weekend to see Romney and new running mate Rep. Paul Ryan and the hundreds who cheered on President Obama.

"The big worry expressed in a new email from Obama's Chicago HQ: "The Republican base is energized." The reason: Romney attracted 15,000 at a rally over the weekend.

"The email:

"Paul --

"I just got this disturbing report: Yesterday's Romney-Ryan rally in North Carolina pulled in an overflow crowd of 15,000 people.

"There's no spinning that number. It's a LOT of people, and the Republican base in energized.

"And that's not all. Since the VP announcement, Romney's campaign has brought in over 70,000 donations from his Tea Party base.

"We've got to step up our game and mobilize our supporters -- starting right now.

"Donate $3 or right now to help us rally our base around President Obama's agenda >>

"Listen to what one Republican supporter said about Paul Ryan: 'I love him...He's going to excite the Tea Party and get them on board...'

"We can't let the Republicans claim the momentum. Donate $3 or whatever you can:

"Thanks,

"Brynne Craig

"DCCC Field Director"

matt

I was in a meeting at the IG Farben building in the late 70's when I first heard the term. A SGTMAJ called it on a plan we were working on to senior leadership. As the youngest participant in the room I had a seriously difficult time controlling my reaction. It is simply amazing how rock stupid leadership can be.

Just saw Debbie Wasserman Flounder on TV and realized how closely set her eyes are. I could totally see her as a malevolent character in Sponge Bob Squarepants.

Dave (in MA)

So I was just picking through today's junk mail looking for pieces large enough to use for lining the parrot cage when I came across an envelope from Commit 2 Vote 2012 addressed to my Mother in Law who passed away 9 years ago. Inside, 2 voter registration forms. Apparently this is a joint effort from Focus on the Family and National Right to Life-something something, not ACORN. Huh.

matt

I will never forget being in a meeting at the IG Farben building in Frankfurt and some old SGTMAJ came out with that statement on an operation we were working on and just about falling over when I heard it. It was very difficult being the junior person in the room and listening to the sheer bumf that came out of leadership.

matt

typepad just messed with my posts.I thought the latter had disappeared.

So Goddamn Totally Massively All Jacked-up.

Heh, I wuz tryin' ta figger the acronym for SGTMAJ.
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DrJ

IG Farben

FWIW, BASF still is the largest chemical company in the world. BASF was the largest part of IG Farben, which was formed to make synthetic gasoline from coal back in the day.

Bolton, Biden & Romney would clean clocks like regular brushing.

I'd like to see an Oxford style debate 3X3 with the presidential and vice-presidential candidates as well as putative Secretary of State candidates. That could be fun, especially this year.
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daddy

FOX News is broadcasting in Hong Kong. Yay.

Speaker Boehner on Gretta's show just said that he thinks that "President Obama respects Paul Ryan, and that President Obama likes Paul Ryan."

If that is what Boehner honestly believes I think Boehner is deluded.

I think Obama fears Paul Ryan and loathes Paul Ryan. There is no way you can watch Obama's reactions during that 6 minute video and not realize that Obama recognizes the danger that straight-talking Paul Ryan is to Obama and to his plans to transform our society.

Respect? Maybe, but like? Not in a million years, and the sooner we get it thru' our heads that Obama does not "like" any of his political opponents, no matter what we do, the better.

Neo

The Colombia scandal was the president’s wake-up call. The White House needed to order an in-depth and urgent investigation into porn, child porn and prostitution in all government agencies. Mr. Obama did no such thing. Now America’s Missile Defense Agency may be exposing the core of our national security. So grave and unpatriotic is this violation, it might border on treason. Yet Mr. Obama remains unconcerned. Members of Congress are so alarmed by the president’s behavior that they recently passed an amendment preventing the administration from sharing missile-defense technology with Russia. The Missile Defense Agency may have done so already.

Sara

Fast and Furious Bombshell Explodes

What are we talking about here? Who are the good guys, who are the bad guys?

jimmyk

That sucks about Kodak.

Yeah, as DrJ knows, I lived in Rochester for a decade or so, and saw the beginnings of the death rattle, first because of competition from Fuji, and then of course from digital. It seems that once it began it was just a matter of time, even though they made a half-hearted effort to get into digital.

Soylent Red

I will never forget being in a meeting at the IG Farben building in Frankfurt

Was it a BOGSAT?


"President Obama respects fears Paul Ryan, and that President Obama likes shakes, chain smokes and sits in the corner rocking and blubbering like a girl when he thinks of Paul Ryan."

Fixed it.

dublindave

"I think Obama fears Paul Ryan and loathes Paul Ryan. There is no way you can watch Obama's reactions during that 6 minute video and not realize that Obama recognizes the danger that straight-talking Paul Ryan is to Obama and to his plans to transform our society."


Can we get one of the most radical right-wing pols of the 90's, Newt "split up with his wife on her death bed to demonstrate his family values" Gingrich critiquing the Ryan plan on 'Meet the Press' as a dangerous experiment in social engineering?

Ta!

dublindave

LOL, Ignatz ♥


Huh? No love for Dubby? How bout some nekid pics?

Captain Hate

Speaking of disgusting pedophiles, there are persistent stories that Penn State was only the tip of the iceberg: http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/is-penn-state-pedophilia-tied-to-the-franklin-coverup/

I don't know how credible that is but Spanier being given a high security job by the feds is extremely disturbing no matter what the circumstances.

Captain Hate

In case there was any doubt of the extent of her stupidity http://viralread.com/2012/08/13/soledad-obrien-uses-liberal-blog-to-attack-ryan-plan/

centralcal

Where is everybody? Am I missing something important happening somewhere else?

Janet

74% of Americans Support Voter ID Laws

My husband pointed out an article in the Sunday WaPo about how rare voter fraud is....looking for it I see the WaPo has been doing lots of articles on how RARE it is. Now the editorial board weighs in too.

" Now we know for sure: Such fraud virtually never takes place."

We know FOR SURE!?! If no ID was required to vote, how in the world do they know!?

My husband...I tell ya, my husband pointed out how obvious this MFM pushback was about voter ID laws.

dublindave

Ryan belly blinked at the Iowa fair yesterday. You could see the nerves kick in as folks in the audience began ask him if he intended to cut Medicare. It's early, but obviously judging by that performance and his other town halls last year, he gets easily rattled.


Romney didn't fare better. As I stated yesterday, trying to navigate the the minefield of the Ryan plan is going to be impossible for a man who can't even get his own name straight..... So it's going to be an ideological car crash if he pulls a Mitt (I'm for it-no I'm not-yes I am- define IT ) instead of unequivocally embracing the plan.

Clarice

I wsah I were on Lake Como--most beautiful place on earth--even if I were not a guest of GC. Sigh.

Clarice

**Wish* (Need coffee)

henry

just the calm before the storm CC. (I have no idea what storm that might be, but it has that feel to it).

That or everyone is listening to Pat Boone tracks.

NK

ABO is vital-- aside from socializing and screwing up the US economy, Bam's insanity (or treason) regarding US enemies is equally unforgiveable. Vlad 'the impaler' Putin just laughs at Bam's fecklessness and plots SSN cruise missle targets: http://freebeacon.com/silent-running/

Extraneus

Never been to Lake Como, but Lake Maggiore is pretty nice.

Janet

from Drudge -
Russian nuclear attack sub patrolled Gulf of Mexico undetected...

Janet

Looks like President 404 has a mini goplate.

Porchlight

That's great, Janet. "It's so rare it's not worth worrying about" is the liberal response I've come to expect re: voter ID. Usually with weasel words like "there are almost no convictions on record." Duh - if fraud is hard to detect and prove, then it's nearly impossible to prosecute and convict.

If they are pressed on this, they invariably flip to the poll tax/constitutional violation argument. Back and forth, back and forth.

The first question to ask them: if fraud could be documented as widespread, would voter ID be an appropriate remedy? If they say yes, then ask them how the poll tax/constitutional violation argument carries any weight at all. If voter ID is unconstitutional, it is unconstitutional and the alleged rarity of voter fraud should have nothing to do with it.

Next ask them what their appropriate remedy would be if it were documented that - as everyone knows - Republicans are more likely to commit fraud than Democrats. That isn't true, but it will confuse them, as punishing Republicans is an activity that they typically support. If they seem to then find voter ID more attractive, present them with the truth, that actually most convictions on record are violations by Democrat-affiliated groups and individuals.

That will probably be the end of the conversation, and you won't change their mind, but you'll at least have made it obvious the real reason why Dems oppose voter ID.

Sue

(I have no idea what storm that might be, but it has that feel to it)

Waiting and watching Israel. Any day now. Any day now.

henry

Clarice, look at the bright side... 74% of Americans think the WaPo is full of it on voter ID. There is a good chance that view of the WaPo extends far beyond the voter ID issue.

OldTimer

Speaking of debate venues and moderators, maybe Romney should demand to debate the real force in the White House who has been skating free and clear of any direct confrontation or query...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/obamas_strange_dependence_on_valerie_jarrett.html

DebinNC

Chris Christie tapped as keynote speaker.

Danube of Thought

Minus 18 at Raz today.

Trails Romney by 3.

NK

Clarice-- Lake Como is the spot to go to relax even if you have to spend it with Clooney and his wrestler pal. I spent 9 days on and around the Lake last september-- fantastic morning light, fascinating micro climate, perfect espresso-- even at gas stations--, wonderful cycling roads, gardens at Villa Carlotta, hour rental Ferraris at Belagio,the Medievil town of Varenna, the opening night at the opera at Theatro di Como. Clooney's sprawling villa is on the west side of the Lake half way between Como and Belagio, it gets the morning light over the mountain on the east side. Lake Maggiore is a nice day trip, as is Milan, and the Swiss border towns. rest of the time Como is just fine-- more than fine.

pagar

"Egypt, where radical Islamists have just conducted a massive Blitzkrieg against the Egyptian Army, police, intelligence apparatus, and now the media."

"Those Muslim fascists were put into power a few weeks ago, with the direct aid and support of the Obama administration and Hillary's State Department."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/fiasco_islamists_purge_egyptian_army.html#ixzz23WmD1SKU

Wonder if anyone in the Obama regime cares?

NK

medievil-medieval #@&% typing skills

RichatUF

Where is everybody? Am I missing something important happening somewhere else?

Up early. And waited for DoT's daily Raz update. Thanks.

Jim Ryan

The Democrats have a well-worked out plan to revive the economy which has a good chance of working.

Cutting taxes has been proven to harm the economy and to harm the economic situation of non-wealthy Americans.

Mitt Romney's business career consisted in cannibalizing companies and firing all their workers in order to line his own pockets. Many people suffered as a result of his treachery and some even died because he took their healthcare away.

Governor Scott Walker has sabotaged the right of the working-stiff union laborer to get a fair shake by organizing.

Paul Ryan is a far-right ideologue.

Rush Limbaugh is a racist.

dublindave

Up early. And waited for DoT's daily Raz update. Thanks


***snicker****

Jim Ryan

The fundamental reason this country is dying is the insanity of the left-most one-third of the country and the misinformation their tools in the press have provided to the middle one-third, half of whom can be fooled enough of the time.

The result is that we have Barack Obama with 46% even now and we allow Harry Reid to exercise enormous power over this country. We're stepping on the accelerator and heading toward the wall. It's difficult to overstate the seriousness of the social illness which besets this country. Some things are so bad one only realizes how bad they are later, after the calamity.

Imagine this country with a real press that had simply dug up and reported the facts for the last fifty years. A good press is indispensable to a healthy and free society. We do not have a good press.

Ignatz

--Huh? No love for Dubby? How bout some nekid pics?

Posted by: dublindave | August 14, 2012 at 03:42 AM --

Dude, we've seen seen your teeth so for your own sake, if not ours, please don't.

Rob Crawford
We do not have a good press.

We in fact have a corrupt press.

matt

no, Soylent. It was a "critical meeting to defend NATO from the Red Empire" or something.It involved the 1970's equivalent of "scary smart" pointy heads using overhead projectors and everything with large purple and red stamps all over them. Sort of like the PowerPoint rangers of today in a way....

so yeah, it was the equivalent of a BOGSAT but no girls for it was far too perilous and secret and sexist male dominated and all.

dublindave

Dude, we've seen seen your teeth so for your own sake, if not ours, please don't.


Ignatz,I can actually see us having a beer some time in my old haunt, Mcdaids, just off Grafton street.

Yes my teeth are rotten,yes my economic future is as bleak as a Charles dickens novel.....by my inner spiritual wealth and beauty more than make up for the external deficit.

(ps.bring your wife we'll have a threesome)

DebinNC

Marco Rubio will introduce Romney as he accepts the nomination the final night of the convention.

Ignatz

--(ps.bring your wife we'll have a threesome)

Posted by: dublindave | August 14, 2012 at 10:25 AM --

Dude, as feeble as you are I'm afraid you wouldn't survive her.

dublindave

Dude, as feeble as you are I'm afraid you wouldn't survive her.

Wha?Does she weigh 300lbs or somethin? Ah here,keep that nasty shit at home,i'll take us up to Leeson street and get us a couple of slappers.

Clarice

Yes, NK, It's lovely. I used to spend time there every summer esp when Carter was destroying our domestic economy but the dollar was worth so much more than the lire.

Danube of Thought

If you want a good chuckle, try to picture the dweebs who work in Napolitano's office, getting bullied, mocked and humiliated by Janet and all the dykes.

tcb

Tuesday Aug 14, 2012:
"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters now have a favorable opinion of Ryan, while 32% view him unfavorably. This includes 29% with a Very Favorable view of Romney’s vice presidential pick and 13% with a Very Unfavorable one. Only 13% are now unfamiliar with Ryan, and five percent (5%) are not sure about him. "
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/august_2012/50_now_view_paul_ryan_favorably_43_say_he_was_right_choice

Jim Ryan

Barack Obama can run on his record.

Captain Hate

Apologies if this was linked earlier but while I was on the road I missed this person's passing http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443537404577577300626558944.html?mod=WSJ_ArtsEnt_LifestyleArtEnt_4

Without a doubt, one of my favorite people to skewer gasbags in a highly erudite way. And wrote very learnedly on art.

dublindave

Barack Obama can run on his record.

Actually we're going to run on the Ryan/Romney record and that Sir, is the genius of the Obama campaign.

The Obama administration presides over a terrible economy yet you are the ones who are on trial. How did this happen? Three words...the.... Tea...... party. Otherwise known as the gift that keeps on giving to the Democratic party. When this election is over I predict the Republican party will split. The crazies V the moderates (who'll peel off independents and tons of Democrats sick of Obama's vision)

Dave (in MA)

Little Dubbie:

"split up with his wife on her death bed to demonstrate his family values"
Demonstrating a level of historical accuracy not usually seen outside of Joe Biden's plug-pocked skull.

bio mom

ras has Romney and Obama tied at 45 in Ohio. Just released. R+1 poll. Romney up 2% with indies there.

GMAX

32% view him unfavorably.

There is the good news for the progs. There is a floor to how far Zero can drop.

Unfortunately, its below the McGovern line. After McGovern, its was until Howie Dean came along that a Democrat would ever say outloud what he really believed. The lesson they took from the massive drubbing, was this, Democrats have to lie about their beliefs to be elected. Wait until Zero teaching them that lesson, once again. How stupid are progs that they have to learn the same lesson again in the same lifetime?

DebinNC

Not that my departure would cause even a ripple, but the determination of some to engage this malicious troll is almost beyond bearing. I understand his/her motivation to diminish this site, but I don't understand those who encourage and enable him/her.

Danube of Thought

Raz:

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 42% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for the Republican in their district’s congressional race if the election were held today, while 39% would choose the Democrat instead.

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