Moderate This!

The Presidential debate commission announces the debate moderators.

PBS's Jim Lehrer will host the first presidential debate on Oct. 3 in Denver, Colo. CNN's Candy Crowley will host the second, town-hall debate on October 16 in Hempstead, N.Y. CBS's Bob Schieffer will host the third debate on Oct. 22 in Boca Raton, Fla.

ABC's Martha Raddatz will host the vice presidential debate on Oct. 11 in Danville, Ky.

I love the first comment at Politico:

Debate moderators were chosen for diversity - a network liberal, a cable liberal, a PBS liberal and a female liberal.

Yup. But as newsies go, these are about as centrist as could be expected, since both sides have to agree on each choice.

Comments

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

CA politicians pull the plug on public affairs TV coverage of budget testimony.
http://hjta.org/california-commentary/censorship-another-step-road-despotism
"I was invited to testify before the Senate Governance and Finance Committee by Chairwoman Lois Wolk. ... I was asked to speak specifically on Proposition 30, the Governor’s massive tax hike proposal. In her letter the Senator said, “This hearing is required by law and is intended to inform the public of each initiative’s contents . . . .” ...
Although Senator Wolk opened the proceedings reiterating her hope that the hearing would assist voters in making reasoned decisions on controversial ballot measures, someone else higher up in the Senate hierarchy was intentionally “pulling the plug” on the California Channel (CalChannel) coverage. CalChannel is a public affairs channel carried on most cable systems. While not a ratings hit, the service exists so that interested members of the public, many of whom are in no position to travel to Sacramento, can tune in and view proceedings as if they were in the hearing room.
...
Speaking to a reporter, Steinberg spokesman, Rhys Williams, justified the disruption of CalChannel service this way: “It was inappropriate to provide legislative resources to promote the ballot measure campaigns of either side, and in particular to make those public-funded resources easily available for exploitation in political TV commercials.”

[bio mom]

Sorry!! One correction to the ras Ohio poll. It was D +1, not R +1.

[Danube of Thought]

When this election is over I predict the Republican party will split.

This imbecile has been talking to his source again.

[Mark Folkestad]

Great catch on that Little Bighorn NPS revealing "error" last night, bgates. I've been there, and there is something both moving and eerie about the place. The hair on the back of my neck literally stood up. But don't worry too much about the name-change of the battleground or the "fortunately" on the website. We had a ranger guide who was a descendant of the Army's Crow scouts who was unflinching in his dismissal of the politically-correct version of history, and if he didn't get fired, there is hope.

DuDa, if you weren't a miserable cur only concerned about receiving crumbs from your master Soros' table for trying to disrupt our forum, you would know that Mrs. Ignatz is a lovely woman in every respect who is valiantly fighting a protracted battle for her life against cancer, and you would not write such foul, debased comments involving her. But, then I remember the foul comments you made about another commenter's under-age daughter. I harbor no illusions about your character.

[Ignatz]

--Wha?Does she weigh 300lbs or somethin?--

120. Problem is she's a woman and consequently more than you can or have handled.

--Ah here,keep that nasty shit at home,i'll take us up to Leeson street and get us a couple of slappers.

Posted by: dublindave | August 14, 2012 at 10:32 AM--

Slappers. Is there a male lefty who isn't a misogynist with a mommy complex?

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

DaveMa: "one of my Al Gore pigtail bulbs went supernova and then dark, and it gave off a burning electronics smell. I replaced it with an Edison."

Yeah, last week we broke down and ordered a bunch of Edison's from Amazon.
I'm pretty sure Mrs MtnViewCA ordered through the Instapundit link. But is JOM also an affiliate? I see the ads on the right hand side--does TM get a few shekels if we buy from Amazon through JOM?
Hmmm, if I mention "Amazon" in a comment does that cause Amazon to post more ads here? Or does it only help them decide which ads to flash at me on other sites?

[Danube of Thought]

Paul Bedard on the genius of the Obama campaign:

The recent frantic email theme to supporters from Team Obama about Mitt Romney's run-away fundraising successes has been expanded to the crowd size gap between the thousands who rushed out over the weekend to see Romney and new running mate Rep. Paul Ryan and the hundreds who cheered on President Obama.

[dublindave]

"Not that my departure would cause even a ripple, but the determination of some to engage this malicious troll is almost beyond bearing. I understand his/her motivation to diminish this site, but I don't understand those who encourage and enable him/her."

If that's a reference to me I'd hate to see anyone go on account of my patently absurd observations.....Look,if Tom asks me to leave I will. I have stated this many times.

Yes, I recognize that I'm not nearly as educated or as intelligent as most if not all of the members here and my presence does lower the IQ of the site..... but I do represent the uneducated, the working class, the easily manipulated and fooled Democrat of which there are millions.... it's so rare to actually catch one and be able to study it's stupidity up front.....

If Tom tells me to tone it down I will. I am a nasty person and I understand that there's alot of decent people here.If he tells me
to go I will.

[Rob Crawford]

Ya'll keep feeding it, it ain't gonna go away.

[DebinNC]

Speaking of lessons: How to pushback against Dem Medicare lies by using elderly moms and ObamaCare.

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

"I harbor no illusions about your character."
I'm sure he's heartbroken. :)
I'm with DebNC, fwiw.
LUN

[dublindave]

DuDa, if you weren't a miserable cur only concerned about receiving crumbs from your master Soros' table for trying to disrupt our forum, you would know that Mrs. Ignatz is a lovely woman in every respect who is valiantly fighting a protracted battle for her life against cancer, and you would not write such foul, debased comments involving her. But, then I remember the foul comments you made about another commenter's under-age daughter. I harbor no illusions about your character.

Even though Igantz views me in a negative light I would never intentionally be cruel to him or his lovely wife. I apoligize for my ugliness.

I do feel stupid.

[Rob Crawford]

Jim -- these clowns are more the "Fitty Cent" party.

[Rick Ballard]

Jim-MV,

Controller Chiang's current report documents California's continuing plummet into the fiscal abyss. Just another -10% YoY revenue miss. Moonbeam's hopes are going to be dashed in November and the city/county BKs should drive California muni debt interest costs up even faster than revenues plummet.

It's a real match made in Blue Hell.

[DrJ]

I'm with DebNC, fwiw.

Me too. Is it so hard to narcisolate or SOB?

[Jim Ryan]

Narcisolate. It's never too late.

[Rob Crawford]

Narcisolate -- you won't see the hate.

[Danube of Thought]

last week we broke down and ordered a bunch of Edison's from Amazon

We have a lifetime supply of Edison 40s, 60s and 100s in our garage. Not one CFL will ever illuminate any part of this house.

[DebinNC]

Ignore the bait or Narcisolate.

[Mark Folkestad]

Sorry, DrJ. I suppose you're now wishing you had slipped some polonium in my Coke when we had lunch together. And Jim Ryan, some of us are unwilling to use a browser other than IE, and are thus unable to narcisolate. You may give me a hard time for engaging the troll, but please don't deny Ignatz the right to respond to vile personal attacks.

[Danube of Thought]

We long-time Californians recall that it was Moonbeam the first time around who started it all by giving public employees collective bargaining rights. They, in cooperation with the state's Democratic legislature and local officials, have saddled the state with burdens it cannot possibly meet.

And Moonbeam wants to build a $65 billion high-speed train.

[AliceH]

DebinNC@10:52 --the determination of some to engage this malicious troll is almost beyond bearing.--

I've reached the same point. Still at "almost" but closing fast to unmodified "beyond".

[Ignatz]

My wife is the one with cancer, but I'm not getting all distressed over Inchworm.
Maybe we shouldn't take him or ourselves or the internet so seriously? Just pixels after all.

[DrJ]

please don't deny Ignatz the right to respond to vile personal attacks.

I'm not denying him that right. Simply, I wish that he not read that garbage in the first place.

[NK]

DoT-- I assume you've been on GasTurbine FFGs and DDGs; their engine response time is like driving a car or small truck-- how did the Porter manage to smack a Tanker? I realize it was in the confined Sraits of Hormuz, but honestly.

[Sue]

Maybe we shouldn't take him or ourselves or the internet so seriously? Just pixels after all.

Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. The drama makes me crazier than the troll(s).

[RichatUF]

Barack Obama can run on his record.

The best one you've come up with Jim. The Treasury Department is admitting reality and saying they expect to lose about $25 billion on the auto bailout. Now all we need to do is make that sort of winning investment in all the other industries in the US!

[GMAX]

Its quite clear that Governor Moonbeam just needs to raise taxes to cover the budget debt! Hurry up Jerry, you can drive millions more away if you will only do what comes naturally to a Democrat Governor with a legislature that will do your bidding.

[NK]

Does this mean I have to cease my personal attacks on DDs drunkeness and stupidity?

[Sue]

Janet,

The radio personality on WBAP (he took Mark Davis' place) is taking questions from smokers. They are singing your song. 101 ways to say "leave me alone, I like to smoke, therefore I will smoke". ::grin::

[AliceH]

Narcisolating the bad guy does nothing to stop the crap droppings on my screen by those who choose to quote and respond.

That's why I'm going to add some of the erstwhile "good" guys to the narco-list.

[sbw]

Narcisolate. I do and never see the trash.

It always surprises me when someone responds to it.

Scroll on by.

[DrJ]

Governor Moonbeam just needs to raise taxes

There are two competing tax initiatives on the ballot this fall. Moonbeam ran earnestly on putting any tax increases to the voters. It absolves the government of, you know, governing.

[Dave (in MA)]

DoT, my CFLs were ones that I picked up for under a buck when the local Ace Hardware had a special on them. I think they were actually 45 cents apiece. I usually use incandescents.

[rse]

Daddy and I talked about this yesterday but there is a reason this Admin wants to get contractual agreements with districts when it cannot yet coerce the whole state. If it can do both. All the better.

And this title I will post http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/do-you-live-in-a-district-piloting-deep-and-continual-personal-change-in-the-individual-student/

Ayers and his mentor Maxine Greene show up again and you will appreciate the necessity of the previous graphically distasteful but accurate title.

I think Lake Como would do wonders to lift my spirits at the moment. But getting this one up should help. It's no fun understanding this crap alone.

[dublindave]

I've reached the same point. Still at "almost" but closing fast to unmodified "beyond".

Oh good grief, just leave already Blanche duboise and hang out by the Magnolia tree drinking Ice tea and waiting for a proposal. Jesus Mary and Joseph, anyone with a brain in their head would just ignore my drivel and flit to the next post........ I'll calm down the ugliness but I won't stop posting about the ideological weakness of Mitt Romney or the abusive nature of Ryans plan.

Jesus Christ, what a bunch of whiny bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[centralcal]

Our Biden humor for the day:

Andrew Stiles ‏@AndrewStilesWFB

Biden to Danville, Virginia crowd: "With your help, we can win North Carolina again!" #JoeBeingJoe

[DebinNC]

Obama has 3 "campaign events" in the Des Moines area today. Two questions: 1) Is he tooling around in the black behemoth, and, if so, are there any pics? 2) Has any msm outlet noted O's lie yesterday about Paul Ryan/US House blocking the Farm Bill?

[RichatUF]

Won't Moonbeam have the Hypothetical Future Value of Facebook stock cap gains to spend? And if not, he can always call upon the money fairy. Plenty of money there build a railroad to no where.

[Danube of Thought]

NK, I really have no information other than that it happened at 0100. But it's inexcusable. You plot every surface contact on radar constantly, and set your course so as not to come within a thousand yards of any of them. It's really not hard.

Send hit your e-mail. I'll send you some stuff you'll love.

[Sue]

C,

I just noticed you said he was in Virginia. I thought it was funny he thought they could win NC again.

[dublindave]

Does this mean I have to cease my personal attacks on DDs drunkeness and stupidity

Don't you dare,NK.You're the only person dumb enough for me to be able to take down in a debate...without you I have nothing.

[Some guy]

Duda, you had some typos. Here, I'll fix'em for you:

Actually we're going to run on the Ryan/Romney *and* the Obama record and that Sir, is the genius of the Obama Romney campaign.

You're welcome.

[centralcal]

I b*tched, p*ssed, moaned and groaned, along with many others about Dana Ward. TM has been pretty faithful of late coming in with the super duper Dyson to suction him and his mega cut and pastes out.

I agree with Sue (about the lesser trolls). Some here who are our friends simply enjoy bopping trolls around and no amount of cajoling or threatening them is gonna change that. So, narcisolate, sob, and above all ignore, is probably one's only defense.

[Captain Hate]

My wife is the one with cancer, but I'm not getting all distressed over Inchworm.

I think of your and Janet's unflappable good spirits as embodying the Christian ethos which others elsewhere claim but fall short of.

[bgates]

I'd like to approach voter ID differently: Without the word 'voter'. Complain to your prog friends about some new government plan that's supposed to provide an official government ID to anyone who doesn't have one already. As if anybody without a driver's license would ever need to get on a plane, or go in a bar! Those people are getting by just fine without spending taxpayer dollars on'em. As if I care that having a valid photo ID is going to make some deadbeat's encounter with the cops go more smoothly. As if the government would even be capable of verifying the identity of anyone and everyone who wanted one! -and it would be a flood of people, too. Why, there must be 50 million adults in this country who don't have a driver's license!

And another thing, don't tell me about "stimulus". There's nothing stimulating about hiring a bunch of government workers to take a bunch of photographs and record a bunch of data, even if the end result is to give millions of citizens access to a vast range of economic transactions that they couldn't have participated in before.
...
I bet it wouldn't be that hard to get a prog spitting mad (well, right) and insisting that the government has a moral responsibility to provide universal ID coverage, which would just involve a tiny expansion of existing programs anyway, and anybody who opposed ensuring that every adult citizen had an ID is a racist. Once they've thundered that our government can and should - nay, must - provide such documentation, then ask about voting.

[centralcal]

Ah, yes, Sue - Biden is humorous on so many levels!

[tcb]

"NK,...without you I have nothing."

Sounds like dubby is in love!

[Mark Folkestad]

AliceH, if you haven't already done the deed, then I shall say farewell. It seems a mite like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but it's your choice. I will continue to see your comments and praise them at times, but you will never know it.

[Some guy]

Personally, I think some trolls serve a purpose. Not the one they believe they are serving, but nonetheless a usual one for us. YMMV.

[bio mom]

Obama fudging the retail sales numbers?? Look at the chart here. !!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mystery-july-retail-sales-beat-solved-it-all-seasonal-adjustment

[bgates]

With your help, we can win North Carolina again!

Haha! That would require a huge number of people to vote for a Democrat in two different states in the same election! That never happens!

[dublindave]

It saddens me to know that so many people would like me to leave. So much so I'm contemplating the very idea.

Mmmmmmm. I like this group but if I'm upsetting the cohesiveness of it, perhaps I should go.

Alright, if one more person after this post asks me to leave I swear on the eyes of Saint Patrick that I, dublindave will leave and never post here again.

One person has to step up and just ask me to leave and it will be done.

[Some guy]

'useful' not 'usual' in post above. Apologies.

[Soylent Red]

dublindave:

Please leave.

[laff trac]

" I like this group but if I'm upsetting the cohesiveness of it, perhaps I should go."

DubbyDave = Comedy Gold!

[dublindave]

My wife is the one with cancer, but I'm not getting all distressed over Inchworm.

"I think of your and Janet's unflappable good spirits as embodying the Christian ethos which others elsewhere claim but fall short of."

As skanky as I am, Igantz, I do hope your wife pulls through.

[tastes like butter]

"When this election is over I predict the Republican party will split."

The Convention should send popcorn commodities soaring. Ron and Rand Paul have gotten the elbow, and should provide some context for the GOPer contingent. After Obama is elected, I expect the Tea Party will be similarly elbowed out, and will go the way of the Whigs.

Time cures all ailments.

[dublindave]

dublindave:

Please leave.

Sure.

[Dave (in MA)]

Biden to Danville, Virginia crowd: "With your help, we can win North Carolina again!" #JoeBeingJoe

Are dead Virginians voting Democrat in NC now?

[tastes like butter]

"When this election is over I predict the Republican party will split."

The Convention should send popcorn commodities soaring. Ron and Rand Paul have gotten the elbow, and should provide some context for the GOPer contingent. After Obama is elected, I expect the Tea Party will be similarly elbowed out, and will go the way of the Whigs.

Time cures all ailments..

[GMAX]

Please go and dont let the door hit your Arse on the way through it.

[Sue]

Twitter is saying Axelrod "suggested" the Soptic ad was dishonest. The assumption being Obama is about to toss Mr. Soptic under the bus. How is Mr. Soptic going to react when he is denounced by Obama?

[centralcal]

More Fareed plagiarism news from the Washington Post:

Zakaria also writes a separate column for The Washington Post. The newspaper said on Monday that his column will not appear this month.

[Dave (in MA)]

toss Mr. Soptic under the busThe Canadian-built bus. I wonder if it was built with US-supplied steel? Probably not. Damn that Romney. He outsourced Obama's bus to foreigners.

[Rick Ballard]

"Obama fudging the retail sales numbers??"

bio-mom,

Actual sales tax receipts for July in California were down 40% YoY. California represents 12-14% of the US economy. Kinda makes one wonder where the offsetting surge in sales might have been. Unicorn rentals? Are rainbows flying off the shelves?

[Captain Hate]

The assumption being Obama is about to toss Mr. Soptic under the bus.

Or maybe it's a shot by Mr Whipple at the rodent known as ValJar

[Clarice]

Very wicked, bgates.

[Sue]

CNN must have decided that it was going to have to challenge Obama on some things if they were going to survive. I can't believe how a couple of their on air personalities have questioned Obama surrogates and corrected their lies. I have only watched clips online but still, something is happening.

[RichatUF]

centralcal-

Some here who are our friends simply enjoy bopping trolls around and no amount of cajoling or threatening them is gonna change that.

A guilty pleasure is to read the clever and gleeful taunts.

[Sue]

What are we talking about that causes me to see two men hugging in the ad on the left?

[centralcal]

Yes, I know, RichatUF!

[Porchlight]

A guilty pleasure is to read the clever and gleeful taunts.

Same, but I don't feel particularly guilty about it.

[Dave (in MA)]

What are we talking about that causes me to see two men hugging in the ad on the left?

People who insist on using crappy browsers without ad-blockers and troll-smiting extensions?

[Rob Crawford]

CNN must have decided that it was going to have to challenge Obama on some things if they were going to survive. I can't believe how a couple of their on air personalities have questioned Obama surrogates and corrected their lies. I have only watched clips online but still, something is happening.

Rats abandoning the ship?

[NK]

with or without me... DD does in fact, have nothing... (except an alchohol addled mind and a foul mouth)

[centralcal]

CNN must have decided that it was going to have to challenge Obama on some things if they were going to survive.

Nah, I don't believe that for a minute. They don't want to look as stupid as some of the imbecile surrogates. Deep down, old Wolfie was probably saying, jeez can't you lie more creatively so I won't look like a fool when I agree with you?

[Dave (in MA)]

What are we talking about that causes me to see two men hugging in the ad on the left?

Or maybe it was triggered by Dudu's mention of his threesome fantasy.

[Sue]

People who insist on using crappy browsers without ad-blockers and troll-smiting extensions?

What browser are you talking about?

[Porchlight]

Once they've thundered that our government can and should - nay, must - provide such documentation, then ask about voting.

Thanks for all those excellent suggestions, bgates. I think I will try that approach.

[NK]

DoT-- 0100 collision on the flat Gulf waters, inexplicable. "Inexcusable" we know that, the CO will be in a new line of work in '13. I will send hit my referee email-- i just got an assignment, so that email's active again. I can't wait to see your family's personal history of that campaign. My father at the time of those battles was a ship's carpenter aboard a Greek Royal Navy (in exile) serving under the Brits' RN. If WWII turned out differently, i wouldn't have been a US citizen.

[AliceH]

Why, exactly? NOAA needs 46,000 rounds of .40 cal. ammo

Are they going to shoot at threatening weather patterns?

This is on top of DHS recent buy of 450mm rounds.

[peter]

Great story. Stoned to death, and no, not the choom gang.

[Rob Crawford]

This is on top of DHS recent buy of 450mm rounds.

When did they get hold of 18" guns? Someone raise the Yamato?

[Sue]

Alice,

I think the guy at your link has it about right. They can't get rid of our guns so they'll buy up all the ammo.

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

"Actual sales tax receipts for July in California were down 40% YoY."

Whoa! That's huge, Rick. Cite? I figured maybe the link you posted earlier about Controller Chiang's report covers this, but link goes to a JOM comment.

[AliceH]

Heh, Rob. --When did they get hold of 18" guns? --

Of course, I used accountant-style abbreviation (mm = million), but it sure does look like I said 450 millimeter.

btw - apparently DHS ordered another 750 MILLION rounds, on top of their original 450 million. wth???

[NK]

RobC-- very nice Yamato reference. Yamato only fired those 460mm big boys twice in anger. At the battle of Leyte Gulf against Taffey 1 and taffey 2, and on the suicide run towards Okinawa-- and on that occasion they were fired in the flight path of Avenger torpedo bombers on the theory that the geisers would deter the runs. Useless.

[Danube of Thought]

For my part, I can take duda or leave him. He's quite dumb, and so it's a trifling matter to smack him down quite smartly--but it's a little like tearing the wings off a fly. But it seems there is a pretty broad consensus that he's unacceptably disruptive, so henceforth I won't respond to him at all.

Meantime, I see that the sad and lonely Dana Gilbert Ward of Pitzer College has taken to posting as tastes like butter, and that no one pays any attention to anything he says.

[RichatUF]

Porchlight-

I'm trying not to encourage it, but "besotted" is such a great word. I'm going to have to gather up some of those comments, and one day, erupt on my work email. It will then be a short walk over to hr and then a longer walk to the unemployment office.

[NK]

DoT-- DGW is mentally unbalanced. BB is silly and my guess is quite young, so he seems kind of earnest. DD is just stupid and potty mouthed.

[NK]

RUF-- Besotted is a great word. But don't forget imbecile.

[Rob Crawford]

Of course, I used accountant-style abbreviation (mm = million), but it sure does look like I said 450 millimeter.

Whew.

Still, you know what I see coming out of those 450 million rounds? 450 million spent casings for Georgia Arms to reload.

And they can buy up all the .40cal they want. Not one of my calibers.

[centralcal]

Horshack of Welcome Back Kotter (Ron Palillo) has died at age 63. Pretty young.

[dublindave]

For my part, I can take duda or leave him. He's quite dumb, and so it's a trifling matter to smack him down quite smartly--but it's a little like tearing the wings off a fly. But it seems there is a pretty broad consensus that he's unacceptably disruptive, so henceforth I won't respond to him at all.

O.k.Let's see how long you can keep that up. My guess is about three minutes because you have no moral core at all,Danube of thought.Quick quick,DOT,what does rassmuseen say about your moral core???????

Roflmao.

[rse]

Sue-I got the same impression from the ABC News last night. Plus Jonathan Carl seems to genuinely like Paul Ryan and it simply came across.

Alice H-I wrote about NOAA about 2 weeks ago and their intention to use the social sciences and education and communication to alter student's mindsets on Climate Change regardless of the actual facts.http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/if-reality-is-ignored-or-disregarded-when-do-we-become-a-state-against-its-people/

A govt agency in a supposedly free country willing to do that has a lot to fear from that disclosure being public.

The Administration that pushed for uch an intrusive change has even more when facing the electorate this fall.

[bgates]

How is Mr. Soptic going to react

How would we ever know? I don't think the press has time to talk to every former steelworker in the country, not when the Republicans just picked a VP nominee who looks like he might have thrown spitballs at gay-looking kids in junior high school study hall.

And if Soptic searches out a press outlet willing to give time to his confused ramblings, that's the kind of thing a guy might do one time before he overdoses on aspirin.

[Sue]

(Ron Palillo) has died

“Ooh! Ooh, ooh!”

[dublindave]

3,2,1 before I can make Danube of thought respond to me!

[Rick Ballard]

Jim-MV,

Dunno what happened to that link.

Second try - works in Priveew

Controller Chiang

If it's a TyphusPad problem, the July '11 number was $977.6 million versus the July '12 number of $587 million. California has a tremendous parasite population and an unemployment rate commensurate with its status as a deep Blue Hell. The economic collapse suggested by the 40% reduction in revenue may be full blown OPM withdrawal.

Weren't there some companies involved with building totems to the Sun God which ceased operations? I seem to recall something about stimulus money having been directed to Sun God Worship Centers.