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August 20, 2012

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JM Hanes

Bruce:

With regard to my earlier map:

"I don't buy it for one minute in Nevada. The state has a heavy Mormon contingent, and neutralizing that in 2010 allowed Harry Reid (a Mormon) to cruise to easy reelection (along with national ridicule of Sharon Angle, his opponent). But, notably, he ran almost 10 points ahead of his son, Rory, who was running for governor, and who got trounced by the Republican."

At 5-6%, Nevada is not as heavily Mormon as I had assumed. IIRC, Harry was not exactly pleased when Rory decided to run (maybe something about the timing?), and basically just cut him loose. With his Senate seat secure, and his leadership position on the line this November, I suspect Reid père will be pulling out a lot more than the Romney-income-tax stops for Obama. The corruptocrats who have kept Reid in office, & made him rich, would probably feel right at home in Chicago, and while Nevada has stratospheric unemployment, there's also plenty of union muscle on hand.

All of which is why I think it makes sense to keep Nevada on Obama's side of the ledger, for now. If & when the spread gets down to 3.5 points, I'll color it a toss up. Of course, the reason I use the RCP averages is because I'm a total piker when it comes to picking and assessing polls and polling.

ROA

Sara: I do not know how my figures compare with yours. I took the 31,000 number from the CNN article by Dr. Carrol who lists himself as the director of the university's Center for Health Policy and Professionalism Research. The 17,000 number came from Rick Ballard’s 7:59 post, and the 36% of women reporting rapes from a 2002 Bureau of Justice Statistice report.
Using the 89,000 annual rape figure and the 36% reporting percentage results in about 250,000 rapes annually. If the 31,000 figure is fairly accurate approximately 12.5% of rapes result in pregnancy. I have no idea how reasonable that number is.
The Rape Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN) says that 46% of rapes get reported. If that is the case the number of rapes is closer to 195,000 and the percentage resulting in pregnancy rises to 16% to get to 31,000.
Sara’s comment was “31,000 out of approx. 4 million babies born? Wow!” That is true, but it is also true that 31,000 out of 1.2million is a relatively small number. Doesn’t she think it would be a big step forward to eliminate all abortions except those due to rape?
To me 31,000 or even 10,000 is not a small number when talking about the number of victims of rape that become pregnant and that Akin was foolish to make that statement.

Soylent Red

How do you kill them..

Sign them up for Obamacare?

It is a magical place.

Yes it is. The whole Teton Range is just great for vacationing. Purple mountains majesty and all that...

Agent J

MarkO there has to be something we can do with all of the burnt but still standing trees..

I did see a large herd of Bison near the East gate..the only other animal was a small squirrel that had a bad day and never made it to the center of the road..he was on my left and I thought, another lefty bites the dust..

Clarice

A really important article on coverage of foreign affairs in US papers.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3294/how-to-read-today-unbelievably-bad-news#.UDL1smM0dZA.twitter--reflections

Ralph L

Henry Cisneros
I don't remember that his was quick, but maybe I'm thinking of the wrong scandal that sank him.
Wilbur Mills (stipper ran out of his limo into the Tidal Basin) and Hayes?, who had his mistress Elizabeth Ray on the House payroll.

JM Hanes

rse:

"Any commenters here from the Winston-Salem area?"

hit & I are within range fer shur. Maybe RalphL and Strawman? I know we've got a pretty big NC contingent here, but I don't have a very good handle on individual locations.

derwill

PPP: Akin 44
McCaskill 43

Sara

To me 31,000 or even 10,000 is not a small number when talking about the number of victims of rape that become pregnant and that Akin was foolish to make that statement.

Rape is not necessarily lethal, abortion always is. Why should a child be murdered because of someone's criminal act or claim of such, after the fact?

I know, first hand, of at least one instance where a multiple rape resulting in pregnancy became the greatest miracle in that rape survivor's life.

OldTimer

Akins will withdraw: What happens now?

Hmm, maybe we're not as stupid as we usually are... LUN

Danube of Thought

It's the immediate, total, knockkneed concession to the enemy that rankles me

The enemy kept its mouth shut; not even McCaskill suggested he drop out. Or are Tea Party Express, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity and Prof. Jacobson now the enemy? Or are they Duke & Duke?

Alternative theory: here we have a man who cannot refrain from saying something that makes him appear a public dunce, and a lot of honorable conservatives are embarrassed by the man's sheer stupidity. Get him out.

Gus

Danube, I completely agree with you.
However, Akin is FAR more preferable than Claire McAsshole. Her stance on the issue is FAR WORSE.
Why should WE capitulate to a baby killing advocate?

Rick Ballard

"What happens now?"

The offer will be increased until Akin cannot refuse and his replacement will beat McCaskill like a drum.

Or not.

DrJ

Clarice,

The article to which you link is a good one. While Insty applauds the death of the traditional newspapers, it is not without its cost.

And I still subscribe to (and read!) The Economist simply because it reports on stories that one cannot find in the US media. Yes, they have grown increasingly leftist, their heritage notwithstanding, but at least you have an idea of what is going on elsewhere.

Captain Hate

as for the Geyers, yes they were interesting, but for some reason I expected more..turned out to be about as exciting as when my oatmeal boils over..

Yellowstone was a letdown for me after the Tetons. Maybe it was because with the thinness of the earth's crust on top of all the geothermal activity you have to stick to the walks or risk scalding yourself. And the whole place smells like a fart.

Mrs H has never seen a bear and it bugs her. I've seen a few black ones in the Alleghenys and they're more pests than anything. Anyway we were in a tent in Yellowstone and they had those bear proof metal trash cans where the top has to be lifted and swiveled on an axis to get into it. Some grizzly or brown bear came trash hunting one night, got frustrated and cuffed it giving this metallic gong song. I told Mrs H she could go out and see the bear if she wanted to...

Clarice

You can always go to Claire Berlinski on facebook and see her latest posts. She has a good idea of what's happening in the ME.

Agent J

Gus & DOT--Even in his condition, he is the better WON..

I am to far removed from the state now, but I wonder about a write in?

Danube of Thought

Would anyone prefer that this dipshit Akin be defenestrated more slowly, rather than "immediately?"

Who, other than Republicans, benefited from the protracted disgrace of Gary Condit?

Gus

Akin, is better than McCaskill.
I'll take a win over perfection.
We KNOW what happens if we DON'T WIN.

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DrJ

She has a good idea of what's happening in the ME.

That's good advice, since I have enjoyed Berlinki's work in the past. It still is limited to the ME, and hence is pretty narrow in its scope.

Sara

A nice goodbye to Phyllis Diller over at BlackFive.

Godspeed Miss Phyllis

peter

Folks, I'll be signing off for a couple of weeks. See you Labor Day weekend. Gonna disconnect from the internet. Bye.

Threadkiller

I don't know how anybody disconnects from the internet.

ROA

Sara, I do not think it is possible in the current environment to pass laws limiting abortion w/o exceptions for rape and incest at a minimum and candidates that are unwilling to accept those exceptions make it more difficult to pass any laws restricting abortion. How many current U. S. Senators are willing to support legislation limiting abortion w/o exceptions for at least rape/incest? Politics is the art of the possible.

derwill

The question isn't whether Akin is better than McCaskill, the question is whether he can still beat her.

Yesterday Akin was 11 points ahead in the race. Tonight he's only one point ahead. He's already lost ten points in less than 24 hours, and the media is just getting started on beating him over the head with the club he gave him.

He's lost the race. We have two choices now--get the guy to withdraw so that we can get somebody in there who has a better chance of winning. Or concede the seat to McCaskill while we whine about how unfair it is that the media is against us, and how Dems always get away with much worse stuff.

We've been talking for years now about how this is the election of our lifetimes, the fight to save Western Civilization itself, and preserve our freedoms and the principles of free enterprise. We need the goldang Senate. Do we really want to risk losing the Senate by going all in for a guy who tonight couldn't even be bothered to show up to defend himself?

Ralph L

Which part of Akin's statement has people up in arms?
-legitimate rape
-natural defenses
-punish the rapist, not the child

Presumably, he's excluding women who will claim rape to get a legal abortion, or maybe the natural defenses don't work on the women who get drunk and regret the sex later.

Gus

Given a choice of McCaskill and our future.
OR
a SHIT SANDWICH.

I'm hungry.

bgates

The enemy kept its mouth shut

The President showed up at a press conference today for the first time...this year maybe? and the first question was about this.

JM Hanes

We used to fish with friends in a remote area of Yellowstone, and I have to admit that I always heaved a huge sigh of relief every time we made it through without any grizzly encounters. I festooned the kids with bells, did a lot of whistling and kept pepper spray handy in my fishing vest. We'd done that any number of times before I noticed the bear spray on offer at one of the outfitters we frequented from time to time. It looked like a can of Lysol, and came with its own holster. So much for bear prep! Mom's pocket sized dispenser was more than half a pound short on ammo.

Gus

bgates, but but but, the President wants to help poor hungry people, and Illegal aliens, and he is focused like a LAZER on jobs.
The NASTY REPUBLICANS just won't go along.

narciso

She picked her candidate, probably with a little inkling of what he was likely to say;


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/20/claire-mccaskill-these-national-republicans-certainly-are-meddlesome-in-trying-to-push-akin-out-of-the-race/

Eric in Boise

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Dudu, I, for one, applaud your new and more conciliatory tone. Well done, sir. Keep it up.

Wait, what?

JM Hanes

See you on the other side, peter!

Pofarmer

"CNN has an article by Dr. Aaron Carroll up now that says there are 31,000 pregnancies from rape every year. They list him as an associate professor of pediatrics at the Indiana University School of Medicine and the director of the university's Center for Health Policy and Professionalism Research."

The 31,000 number comes up a lot. Keep in mind there are something like 6 million pregnancies a year in the U.S.

Elliott

bgates,

I believe it was you who presented to us the hypothesis that the President's silence with respect to the plight of the Christian community in Egypt was due to his visceral loathing for law enforcement personnel. What would you say to the view that Mr. Obama's sense of justice and equality, not to mention his respect for diversity, has influenced the positions he has taken on Syria? It is said that, unlike the Augusta National Golf Club, the country's ruling clique has no African-American, Hispanic, nor Asian members, but is, instead, Alawite.

Sara

ROA: I agree.

narciso

THat certainly true, about foreign reporting, take David Kirkpatrick, they put him on the anthropology beat, about that exotic species,
the conservative, then he pops up in Cairo a few years later, but too often they go native,
the Herald's Gitmo detainee advocate, Rosenberg, previously covered the Palestinians
with the mindset of a flack.

Danube of Thought

"However, Akin is FAR more preferable than Claire McAsshole."

Anybody who can beat McCaskill is preferable to McCaskill. And anyone the GOP picked to run against her could have beaten her, if only he had been able to go three months without saying anything so bloody stupid as to make himself a laughingstock and buffoon overnight.

This dope proved unequal to the task.

bgates

Elliott, I started scribbling when I saw your red line comment on the last page, but by the time I finished the blog had moved on. Thanks for letting me resurrect my comment! (Warning: Novel to follow)

Here's a fun hypothetical: Barry and the Pinheads decide their ace in the hole is military action against Syria for vague humanitarian reasons - all the rally-round-the-flag votes of a big conflict, with far less risk than a direct confrontation with Iran - so they rattle the sabers for the next six weeks. Barry figures that between his Euro fans who gave him a Nobel Peace Prize/owe him for the Libya war, and his African roots, he'll be able to get the biggest UN mandate in history (unprecedented!) to topple the Assad regime with clinical air strikes, declare Peace in the Middle East, and get an 8-10 point bump the week before the election.

What he doesn't know - ok, among the things he doesn't know - is that the Russians and Chinese have seen this play coming since Tripoli, and they've quietly made it clear to the debt-ridden EU and the kleptocratic African states (or vice versa) that everybody in the Eastern hemisphere will be better off screwing us in the UN and letting Obama go it alone. They'll also start to move some kind of armed personnel into Damascus as embassy security, to be revealed as 'peacekeepers' following the American strike. The thinking is that the announcement that Syria is under joint Sino-Russian protection will force America to back down, losing face in front of the entire world. (cont.)

bgates

What the Chinese and Russians don't know is that Iran is days away from breakout, and they view an American attack on Iran's client state as an indefensible provocation that is Allah's way of telling Iran to punch back twenty thousand times as hard at America's client state.

What nobody knows is that the Israelis have concluded there's really nothing they can do about Iran, and the strategic debate in Jerusalem is actually a moral debate: Once Israel knows it is doomed, should it launch on all its enemies to wreak the greatest devastation possible, as a cautionary tale to anyone who might want to destroy another tiny country in the future? Or should they focus on what is good for the Jews of the diaspora, and contain the second Holocaust within their own borders without returning a shot, so as to minimize follow-on attacks against synagogues around the world? (stay tuned for the exciting conclusion)

bgates

Late October airstrikes, and massive voter fraud, make the difference, and Obama is reelected 51-49; election night festivities are halted, muted, or amplified (depending on the group of Democrats and whether cameras are on) by news that the Iranians have destroyed Israel. Israel has either launched the Sampson Option, unleashing a tide of anti-Semitism that has nowhere left to focus but the United States in every nation of the EU and OIC, or it has gone quietly to its grave; in either case there are no more American allies in the Middle East. This complicates our strategic posture as the Sino-Russian protectorate is declared in Syria on the same day.

The other things the Chinese and Russians hadn't counted on are that America is intensely pro-Israel, we think all of our enemies talk to each other, and we've been spoiling for a fight against somebody in a goddamn uniform since we forgot how much Korea sucked. Near-unanimous public opinion forces Barry to demand Beijing and Moscow offer apology and compensation for a greenlight to Tehran that they never gave; upon their refusal, with 30 days to go before the start of Barack Obama's second term, we find ourselves in a real live declared shooting war against three other nuclear powers.

Four, if you count the third generation of sociopaths to run the only third world nuclear power, which has been seething and starving not even a hundred miles from one of the richest cities in the world for decades, waiting for the US to get completely distracted.

Danube of Thought

"The President showed up at a press conference today for the first time...this year maybe? and the first question was about this."

Did the president call for the fool to withdraw, as Malkin, Tea Party Express and etc. have done?

Is the fact that the president showed up today in any way indicative of the effect this iron-brained simpleton will have on the race if he does not withdraw?

narciso

Will that particular spin, hasn't been noted, but J.E Dyer, has been updating Russian and Chinese maneuvers in the area, periodically.

glasater

Betsey McCaughey was on Kudlow's show today and talked about Medicare and Obamacare. She gave a talk that I wish everyone of voting age could see/hear.
If one is on Medicare and they say you cannot have a certain procedure, no doc can provide it. It's illegal.

narciso

Well Betsey, who was one of the prime movers in the original campaign against Hillary care,
was the inspiration behind Sarah's death panel
intuition,

Gus

Glasater and Narciso.

They already call Ryan. Extreme.

The L-tards are COUNTING on MASS STUPIDITY, and a general dependence on GOVT to be re-elected.

narciso

Some of these examples, seen here;

(A) nuther Bub

Is the fact that the president showed up today in any way indicative of the effect this iron-brained simpleton will have on the race if he does not withdraw?

Akin will be gone by tomorrow morning. If he's not then our party leaders are even more feckless than our occasional suspicions about them. I have that much faith, even in the Stupid Party.

JM Hanes

Consistent with my earlier remark about an Akin pseudo-science talking point which writes itself:

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has started an online petition to remove Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) from the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

Akin, who is running for Senate against incumbent Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), ignited a firestorm of criticism over the weekend with his comments to a local TV affiliate on rape and abortion. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,” he said pregnancy resulting from rape...

“Someone who believes nonsense like this has no part overseeing science policy,” the DCCC said. “Tell Speaker Boehner to immediately remove Rep. Akin from the House Science and Technology Committee.”

The DCCC tweeted that it has been their “fastest growing petition ever.”

Ralph L

Here I thought female bodies were super-human. Are you telling me they don't have special powers?

If he's proven correct, that some scientists have found that women's bodies do try to thwart rapists' semen, what will you all say?

daddy

Clarice,

Thanks for the Claire Berlinski link at 11:09. Very sobering.

Ralph L

It would be ironic if Akin heard about the natural defense stuff from his work on the Committee.

Politico:

...people close to him detect, from time to time, a yearning for the high ground. It is most often reflected during his drafting of speeches — a therapeutic, clarifying exercise for a politician with a writer’s impulse to reconciling contradiction through narrative
Wonder how long and how often that yearning comes around. What is it about liberals and their narratives?

Sara

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that among those who are self-employed or own their own business, Mitt Romney enjoys a 20-point lead:



Mitt Romney 56%

Barack Obama 36%

A survey of 7,000 Likely U.S. Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports from August 6-19, 2012. The sample included 815 government workers and 1,040 entrepreneurs. The MOE is +/-1%.
The full story is HERE.

JM Hanes

I, personally, don't have any particular interest in nailing down the stats on pregnancy and rape, but those who do might want to follow up on the links in this Politico story:

“Rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency,” concluded the authors of a 1990s study that found one out of every 20 rapes results in pregnancy, for a total of more than 32,000 rape-pregnancies each year in the United States. A separate 2003 article in the journal Human Nature estimated that rapes are twice as likely to result in pregnancies as consensual sex.

Ralph L

I would think the morning after pill would be used more often, but how long has it been around?

twice as likely to result in pregnancies as consensual sex.
Eric Idle: Rhythm Method!

(A) nuther Bub

Look, the growing-by-the-minute list of those who say Akin must go, that he brings immeasurable damage to this election include: Charles Krauthammer, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt, Sissy Willis, Guy Benson, the Tea Party Express,the editors at Commentary, Weekly Standard, National Review, and numerous others I've doubtless forgotten at the moment. The only ones I've seen defending his words are here, and the Democrats in Missouri who allegedly had a significant influence on his win. Are you really, really willing to accept a likely loss in Missouri and consequences that could be nationwide to protect one candidate -- an honorable man, perhaps, but as a uninformed as a radish and who has exhibited terrible judgment, no matter what his personal beliefs? I'm astonished.

Porchlight

The enemy kept its mouth shut; not even McCaskill suggested he drop out.

The President was asked about it immediately after he just happened to drop by a press conference and condemned the remarks. My lib friends are outraged and are calling Akin "fucking frightening" for advocating a position on abortion that has been held by a majority of GOP candidates for as long as I can remember.

But let's go ahead and eat our own. The Dems know we will do this; in fact they rely on it.

Porchlight

Are you really, really willing to accept a likely loss in Missouri and consequences that could be nationwide to protect one candidate

I don't accept your premise of a likely loss or nationwide consequences. One MO Senate candidate's inopportune, un-PC comments on abortion (which just happen to reflect a widely held view in his state) are not going to change Obama's/McCaskill's/Obamacare's unpopularity and the macroeconomic conditions we all face.

I know it's hard not to go with the crowd, but try it sometime. It's refreshing.

GOP voters everywhere want the GOP to man up. Have we really not learned this lesson since 2006?

JM Hanes

Porchlight:

"One MO Senate candidate's inopportune, un-PC comments on abortion (which just happen to reflect a widely held view in his state)..."

I believe his comments on rape, not abortion, per se, are at the heart of the controversy. But either way, do you really think that Missourians widely oppose abortion even in the case of rape?

jimmyk

here we have a man who cannot refrain from saying something that makes him appear a public dunce, and a lot of honorable conservatives are embarrassed by the man's sheer stupidity. Get him out.

Suppose he decides to stay (as is his right, as far as I know). Do you think the GOP should refuse to support his candidacy, and no one should try to defend him, thereby bringing about the reelection of McCaskill? That's what I don't get. I can understand advocating that he step aside (though even that should depend on who replaces him), but I don't understand trying to ensure his defeat should he stay in.

RokShox

Here is how most women likely reacted to Akin's comments: If I got raped and became pregnant, the GOP would think I must have enjoyed it.

Sara

If I got raped and became pregnant, the GOP would think I must have enjoyed it.

It takes a libtard to come up with such stupidness. You are trivializing rape. As a woman, I can tell you that I think rape is horrid, it takes away part of who you are. But the baby is innocent and compounding the horror of rape by encouraging the woman to become a murderer of her own child is, to me, a thousand times, a million times worse.

Sara

That's what I don't get. I can understand advocating that he step aside (though even that should depend on who replaces him), but I don't understand trying to ensure his defeat should he stay in.

I'm with you, jimmyk.

And now they want him off his committee in Congress. This whole thing has been blown so out of proportion and control, it boggles the mind.

Captain Hate

I know it's hard not to go with the crowd, but try it sometime. It's refreshing.

The herd of independent minds on display here has been revealing. When does Akin get erased from all photographs?

self inflicted

"I don't accept your premise of a likely loss"

"All of that is taking a toll on Akin's image. Only 24% of voters have a favorable opinion of him to 58% with a negative one. He's pretty universally disliked by Democrats (3/85) and independents (21/61) and even with Republicans (43/34) he's on only narrowly positive ground."

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/akin-44-mccaskill-43.html

No MO GOP senator = no GOP senate majority. Anyone who doesn't think this is a big f'n deal is an akin.

self inflicted

"which just happen to reflect a widely held view in his state"

"A SurveyUSA poll conducted Monday finds that only 35 percent of Missouri adults think Akin should stay in the Senate race, while 54 percent of Missourians think he should drop out. Akin has until 5:00 p.m. Tuesday to drop out of the race.

SurveyUSA also asked respondents: "The candidate who made the comments, Todd Akin, now says that he mis-spoke. Do you think he mis-spoke?" Only 32 percent say that Akin misspoke, while 52 percent say he did not."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/surveyusa-only-35-missourians-say-akin-should-stay-race_650351.html

Akin must go. Otherwise, say goodbye to GOP senate majority and goodbye to Romney's chances in Missouri. Then Obamacare full steam ahead and most likely four more years of Obama...then let the executive orders fly!

Extraneus

NYPD Probing Hate Crime After Bacon Found At Staten Island Ramadan Site

“This has been determined to be a bias event on the part of our Hate Crimes Task Force,” NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly told reporters, including WCBS 880′s Rich Lamb.

“On a website associated with this celebration was some derogatory comments and at the site itself, three packages of raw bacon were found,” Kelly added.

Janet

Hey peter! We'll miss you & look for ya on Labor Day weekend.

boris

"a lot of honorable conservatives are embarrassed ..."

I would never claim to be an honorable conservative ... they say thins like "we love Sarah Palin but ...

What Akin said was not all that bad and there is at least a grain of truth that circumstances likely affect odds of getting pregnant.

If this is a big watershed election coming up it seems to me lashing out at a social conservative for saying something socially conservative is just about as stupid as it gets, not "honorable" IMO.

I hope Akin drops out and we win the seat. Self inflicted damage from hysteria does no good.

donald

Ignatz...Ask Stephanie.

I believe she'll back me up!

Stephanie

Yup! What? j/k

Sue

The herd of independent minds on display here has been revealing. When does Akin get erased from all photographs?

I hope you all get to say you told us so if he stays in. I really do.

It has been very interesting indeed to see who thinks those of us saying he must go are not thinking "independently".

NK

GroupThink is a very dangerous condition.

donald

Thanks Steph.

Course that's all I got.

Ignatz

-- It is said that, unlike the Augusta National Golf Club, the country's ruling clique has no African-American, Hispanic, nor Asian members, but is, instead, Alawite.

Posted by: Elliott | August 21, 2012 at 12:42 AM --

That elicited a groan but is still hilarious.

--Ignatz...Ask Stephanie.

I believe she'll back me up!

Posted by: donald | August 21, 2012 at 08:55 AM --

I haven't got a clue what I'm supposed to ask her but since she backed you up I'll concede the point whatever it was.

Porchlight

I believe his comments on rape, not abortion, per se, are at the heart of the controversy. But either way, do you really think that Missourians widely oppose abortion even in the case of rape?

I know this thread is dead but just wanted to respond to JMH and self inflicted.

JMH,

I was making something of an assumption and erred in doing so. I should have said a majority of Missouri GOP voters. Very different, I recognize. There is likely a decent sized number of pro-life Dems in MO but that is not something I can quantify, just guess at - plus their pro-life position obviously doesn't sway their vote if they're already voting Dem.

What I meant to convey is that his argument about abortion in rape cases is a standard pro-life argument that he presumably did not hide from voters in the primary. So it's not like a major revelation or anything.

As for the first part of your comment, again this is just how I see it, but I think that the left is equally horrified by both his comments on rape and his comments on abortion. They're focusing on the rape portion because that's the part that's the most politically stupid and therefore gets the most traction. But they would think the guy is a superfreak even if he hadn't mentioned "legitimate" rape and its impact fertility - because they think pro-lifers are stupid and evil. Which is one reason I don't think their hissy fit on this should be given much attention. Of course they're going to hate on this guy no matter what he says about abortion.


self inflicted,

If Akin stays in I fully expect him to have trouble. I still think he can beat McCaskill, becuase I think MO voters want her out more than they want to punish Akin for stupid remarks. Obviously we do need this seat but I think we can still win it. IMO of course.

I very heartily disagree overall with what I would characterize as a Henny Penny attitude on your part. Take courage. At the risk of repeating myself, this is a red state in a big Republican year against a weak incumbent. This is not Virginia in 2006. Let's not scream and run for the exits just yet.

Comanche Voter

That's okay Bamster. I'm not impressed with you either.

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