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August 16, 2012

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Clarice

I agree completely with Porch. PLUS, I think Palin is the master at getting inside Obama's head..Love that gal. You betcha!

rse

Ralph-I left you a reply on the previous thread.

Anyone else watch how ABC yesterday was portraying mo as a rock star and bo's secret weapon? The crowds that flocked for FLOTUS were visibly a fraction of Ryans.

But mo wore red, white, and blue dress to remind us she is now proud.

AliceH

Well, this is approaching the intolerable.

First, Taranto ambles off for a couple of weeks, depriving me of my M-F "Best of the Web" injection. I became so desperate I set aside my default avoidance of signing up for newsletters and yesterday subscribed to Geraghty's "Morning Jolt". Today I received my SECOND issue and what do I read?

"No Morning Jolt until Tuesday, August 21, as today I'm off to one of those square states in the middle to attend a wedding."

Help me, Obi-Wan Maguire! You're my only hope!

mikey

Obama up only 5 in PA Franklin and Marshall
Romney up 1 in Wisconsin Rasmussen

Only 5 in PA who knows?

narciso

Hillary was 'bamboozled' into giving up her fundraising lists, was stripped off negotiating authority, in three areas, of interest, has had the likes of Samantha Power
assigned to her, and almost all her loyalists
like Lew, reassigned away from her, this is
a codependent relationship, she can't break out of.

Bruce
Biden is a gaffe machine, but I've seen no evidence that he is a political liability. It is telling that the talk about replacing him with Clinton comes from the right.
I think that this was very bright on the part of Palin. She has put the Dems in a bad position here. If they do replace Biden with Hillary!, it will just reinforce Palin's brilliance, which they went out of their way 4 years ago to discredit. They really don't have anyone else who has been properly vetted, which means that there are likely a lot of skeleton's in their closet, and it will be obvious that whomever they nominate is an anti-Hillary candidate. Or, they could just leave Slo-Joe in his place, embarrassing his boss, but otherwise harmless.

Making things worse, I think, is the reality of the Clinton ego (or egos). Bill is being featured prominently at the convention, and is already a loose cannon. Imagine him if someone besides his wife is offered the slot, or offered it first. Are they going to disinvite him? Move him to a less prominent slot? I don't see Obama having much choice here - he pretty much has to offer the VP slot to Hillary! first, if he offers it to anyone.

Hillary!, of course, comes with her own baggage. She has a long career of monetary opportunism - aka graft and corruption, to equal her husband's sexual predations. And, her stint at the State Department has been less than a success, with it supporting replacing allies with terrorists in key countries (e.g. Egypt), and, just overall making the world a more dangerous place for America and Americans. (Of course, the flip side is that it would give the Dems a chance to push Romney/Ryan's inexperience in foreign affairs in order to distract everyone from Obama's economic failures).

Another reason not to switch running mates at this late date - it would take decisive leadership, and that is one thing that Obama does seem to lack. Romney could do it, as, I think, so could have GW Bush, and, maybe even, Bill Clinton. But Obama? He has maybe 3 weeks to make the decision, and is already looking stressed out by the campaign. If he is considering switching VPs, I would almost expect him to dither through the deadline of getting the new VP on all the ballots.

dublindave

A Ryan/Clooney debate would be . . . interesting .


The optics of a frail old man who relies on Medicare debating a Zombie eyed boy famous for wanting to end Medicare ,wins Democrats Florida which in turn wins them the election. Hillary still has a couple of petals on the rose, Dems need an old man because seniors tend believe other seniors over freaky looking Vampire children.

Extraneus

Obama made a big mistake by dissing this guy.

Erskine Bowles: Barack Obama Scuttled the Deficit Commission's Work, Not Paul Ryan

narciso

A reminder Ali Mohammed received US training,
even was an instructor in Psy Ops at one point;

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/314094/general-el-sissi-s-ties-andrew-c-mccarthy

JM Hanes

Captain Hate:

"The donks are tapped out on fresh young faces"

That may actually be their least recognized, yet most consequential, weakness. Regardless of how this election turns out, the Republican bench is getting deeper all the time.

Just look at how many viable VP candidates there were on the right for Romney to choose from! Look at all the new-to-politics candidates the Tea Parties have attracted. You can number fresh new Democratic faces on your fingers. While Pelosi has been sacrificing non-compliant Dems on the altar of leftist orthodoxy, Boehner -- like him or not -- has been teaching his conservative freshmen the ropes and giving them unprecedented seats at table. While California rolls out retreads like Jerry Brown, Walker wins the day in Wisconsin. Look at how many folks have gotten up off their couches and committed themselves to making a difference at the local level.

All of this will bear fruit down the long road ahead of us. We may be looking at "the most important Presidential election" in our lifetimes, but the most important development in modern politics is the nascent tsunami on the right.

pagar

The MF saga continued.

http://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/16/and-its-gone-is-that-a-sentinel-or-a-siren/

"The appeals court affirmed an earlier district court ruling that the bank had a “secured position” on a $312 million loan it gave to Sentinel, which turned out to have been secured by customer money."

Amazing!

narciso

Well they do have Newsom and Villaragoisa, and Kamala Harris, in the pipeline, a
virtual hadhouse out there

Clarice

Exactly, JMH. I was discussing this with a friend last night. if not Hillary, who? Not a deep bench at all.

Danube of Thought

I think I owe this idea to someone here, but I can't remember who it was.

With all of the convoluted, complex, expensive and intrusive programs being run by the federal government, how about a simple, inexpensive one to ensure that every American over age 18 has a government photo ID? it could easily be administered in conjunction with a number of existing programs, e.g., selective service, social security, food stamps, and a host of others. What's not to like?

For Democrats, what's not to like is that they don't want them to have photo ID's, in order that they can claim that photo ID's are discriminatory and therefore can't be required as a condition of voting.

Neo

Enter Ryan. While Democrats attack his Medicare plan as “radical” and portray him as pushing granny off the cliff, young people don’t seem to be buying this caricature. Or maybe “radical” is what they want.

narciso

The real scandal is that there is such a department in the first place;


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/15/exclusive-state-department-oversight-climate-change-spending-abroad-is-mess/?test=latestnews#ixzz23iiUjuSR

henry

Jane, The conventional wisdom two weeks ago had Hovde squeaking past Thompson. The Ryan VP announcement scrambled things a bit. As far as "the Tea Party Candidate", the only thing we know for certain is that Thompson was not a Tea Party Candidate. The national AFP backed Neumann, the state AFP backed Hovde, and lots of SE WI talk show hosts & Tea Party folks backed Fitzgerald. Overall the Tea Party got 2/3 of the vote and we ended up with Thompson. Blame the Marquette poll which showed Thompson as best in a match-up vs Baldwin, once we had Ryan a lot of people based their vote for Thompson on that poll (per radio callers switching their votes on Tuesday). Dick was close, but confused. ; )

A.Men

Juan Williams is the Butt-boy for obama.

Sue

He, whose name I shall not type, is tweeting that Romney/Ryan are not only talking medicare, they have put Obama on the defensive.

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Hey,

I need to talk to a trial lawyer about something involving discovery. Who of you can I email?

Sue

A Fox News reporter is tweeting that Ryan has crowd energized, standing ovation throughout speech.

Clarice

Jane, I'm sure I've forgotten all the discovery rules by now Sorry.

narciso

I'm sure there'll be a similar story about Bashir around 2020;


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/in-iraqi-town-where-saddam-hussein-was-captured-the-man-who-hid-him-speaks-up/2012/08/1

Ignatz

--Well they do have Newsom and Villaragoisa, and Kamala Harris, in the pipeline, a
virtual hadhouse out there

Posted by: narciso | August 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM --

I doubt Newsom or Villaragoisa will play outside of CA; they both have personal and political baggage that is definitely not carry on size and Harris is not and apparently never has been married and is a typical bay area nutter with a veneer of tough guy crime fighter on top.
If that's the bench they're counting on could be a lot of sub .500 seasons coming up in national donkeyland.

henry

“Obama’s dead and the American auto industry is alive,” Quinn said before correcting himself to say “Osama bin Laden” is dead. “Guess I won’t use that one again,” the governor said.

Cross one more of the Replace Biden List. Otherwise Springfield may be next for a taste of Madison as the near bankrupt state tries to deal with public employee pensions and health care.

Sue

Rasmussen is tweeting that more seniors in Florida fear Obamacare than Ryan's medicare plan.

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Jane, I'm sure I've forgotten all the discovery rules by now Sorry.

Me too, but unfortunately I'm still practicing!

Thanks Henry. Clear as mud it looks like.

Ignatz

I can't see Barry dropping Biden as anything other than a political loser at this late date.
On top of that, narcissists never like canning somebody because of outside pressure because that makes them look weak and like they made a mistake and no narcissist wants to share the stage with another one like Hillary.
And finally, Biden, by and large, is saying exactly what Barry wants him to.

Having said all that Joe will probably announce he's resigning tomorrow to follow his dream of playing the Scarecrow in a small, off-Broadaway revival of the Wizard of Oz.
I see a Tony in his future.

Danube of Thought

Raz:

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Florida shows Romney earning 45% support to the president’s 43%. Three percent (3%) like some other candidate, and eight percent (8%) are undecided.
Danube of Thought

I'll give it a try, Jane.

Porchlight

If Hillary wanted to be VP she would already have the job. She chose SofS.

Actually I think it was Biden who was given the choice between VP and SoS, or at least that's what Jill Biden told Oprah.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/01/jill-biden-tell/

I'm guessing Joe chose VP b/c it's a much easier job and even he knows that an idiot like him could do a lot less damage there than at State.

JM Hanes

narciso:

"Hillary... has had the likes of Samantha Power
assigned to her"

I remember thinking that giving Susan Rice, our nominal UN Ambassador, Cabinet level status was a not-so-subtle harbinger of things to come, too.

Porchlight

Obama up only 5 in PA Franklin and Marshall
Romney up 1 in Wisconsin Rasmussen

Only 5 in PA who knows?

mikey, see Rick Ballard's comment on the previous thread on the PA poll - that sample was way skewed toward Dems (+6 from 2008 splits). Romney is probably tied or slightly ahead in PA.

Sure looking good for WI.

NK

More Biden-- Axelrod actually reminded the 10 people watching MSNBC this morning that Biden was "Sheriff Joe" who implemented "Stimulus". If Bam s canning Biden Axelrod doesn't know. BTW-- Biden is a huge drag for November, the Indie voters hate the Stimulus and the Debt, and Joe was THE MAN running it (supposedly). Obamacare and Stimulus are hated by Indies, they condemn Bam/Biden to defeat. http://washingtonexaminer.com/axelrod-sheriff-biden-did-very-very-well-implementing-stimulus/article/2505094?custom_click=rss

Ignatz

--Biden is a gaffe machine, but I've seen no evidence that he is a political liability.......

Posted by: Clark | August 16, 2012 at 08:13 AM --

Clark's political instincts might be a bit questionable considering he thought about voting for Barry in 08 but his finer political sensibilities took hold and he opted for Ralph Nader instead.

DebinNC

I hope someone's producing/airing "death panel" ads, especially IIRC that those God-like political appointees can't be jettisoned by either the Preezy or Congress. I hope my memory is wrong.

Sue

Paul Ryan in Ohio just now: “As Joe Biden might say, it’s great to be here in Nevada!”

Tweeted by someone I don't know and retweeted by Hemingway.

NK

Pa-- the problem wth Pa is the margin of fraud (MOF). The North Philly fraud is huge and so the MOF in Pa is large. Voter ID may help in SW Pa in the abandoned towns around Pittsburgh, but in North Philly, the bags of votes are already filled, Voter ID won't stop that fraud.

Neo

Does Joe Biden get a military funeral if he is unceremoniously thrown under the bus ?

Janet

Seriously, if they were going to replace Slo' Joe, it shouldn't be with tired old hag Hillary or any other retread. They need the equivalent of Ryan on the Dem side, and I honestly can't think of anyone

Terry McAuliffe? He's a grifter in search of a prime griftable position....he's in Virginia now, but we'd gladly give him to the Obama ticket.

Porchlight

Ryan seems to be firing them up in Canton today. Great choice of venue (Football Hall of Fame) with the Browns-Packers game tonight...

Porchlight

but in North Philly, the bags of votes are already filled, Voter ID won't stop that fraud.

Philly didn't stop Toomey from being elected in 2010. I agree though that the Romney margin in PA needs to be of decent size to counter fraud.

Rob Crawford

I'm hearing rumors that they're considering replacing Biden with Jennifer Granholm.

AliceH

I thought Granholm was born in Canada? I'd check before posting, but if it's true, I wanted to beat TK to the point.

DebinNC

Mark Warner is the Dem Golden Boy. He might do it if there was a "groundswell" that he would profess he'd like to ignore but wouldn't for the sake of the party and the nation in peril of Romney Hood and Little Paul.

Rob Crawford

According to the rumors, they figure it doesn't matter; they don't have to demonstrate she's eligible.

(And if anyone believes I'm actually hearing rumors...)

AliceH

I was right!

Given how smart Rob C is, I have to think he knew that and was just tossing more chum in the water.

Porchlight

Oops, I meant above that Canton OH is the home of the football HoF, not that Ryan was speaking at the HoF. He was at Walsh University this morning.

caro

Granholm was born in Canada. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

NK

The only Dem I can think of who might help Bam is Jim Webb-- I assume he's still popular in Va. But Jim webb is president of the Jim Webb Fan Club, Obama sure couldn't trust him to stay on message.

NK

Porch-- like Toomey, RR can win Pa but it has to be outside a large MOF. The North Philly Dems will take more risks to keep Bam in power than to keep a Dem US senator, so the MOF is bigger for RR.

MarkO

Jane, I sent you a message on Twitter.

Danube of Thought

If her parents were US citizens she's eligible. 8 U.S.Code Section 1401(c).

Porchlight

The North Philly Dems will take more risks to keep Bam in power than to keep a Dem US senator, so the MOF is bigger for RR.

Agree with that, NK. Wonder how much of that street money the Dems will have to pass out this year, though.

rse

narciso-there is also a position in the State Dept now working with UNESCO on education. Man came out of the Council of Great City Schools that represents the urban districts that can't be reformed until we have economic justice. And that have to be kept dysfunctional to help generate demand for equality and economic justice.

Now hooked into coordinating with unesco. Lovely.

Jane-I skipped evidence because the teacher was bad. Learned it for the bar exam and only did a few depositions.

But I can help you write a mean prospectus.

Some guy

Give Palin credit.

Whether by accident or sheer political genius, she's done something brilliant here.

In what could turnout to be the critical week of the campaign, when there is a decisive shift in momentum and the Amateurs needed a strong pivot, they are instead put on the defensive on the one single issue which shouldn't even be on the table -- the incumbent ticket.

Further, if the Amateurs and Bill had been secretly planning this as their BIG play to change (and save) the game, which if it were a surprise would have been a big play, but now...

[wait for it]

...it was Sarah Palin's idea!

Clarice

Exactly, some guy.''And--it reminds voters that the press which called her dumb while giving both Biden and Obama countless gaffe passes are not to be trusted.

Ignatz

--Given how smart Rob C is, I have to think he knew that and was just tossing more chum in the water.

Posted by: AliceH | August 16, 2012 at 11:53 AM --

I suspect he was using WeeDavey's unimpeachable source.

Porchlight

Whether by accident or sheer political genius, she's done something brilliant here.

Pretty sure it's the latter since she pushes so many different buttons with one short statement. And she's done it many times before..

Rob Crawford
I suspect he was using WeeDavey's unimpeachable source.

Nah. It was pulled from MY colon, not his.

Ignatz

--But Jim webb is president of the Jim Webb Fan Club, Obama sure couldn't trust him to stay on message.

Posted by: NK | August 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM--

They'd have to hold the convention out in some field; can't think of any venue which would hold both their heads simultaneously.

Porchlight

it reminds voters that the press which called her dumb while giving both Biden and Obama countless gaffe passes are not to be trusted

Hadn't even thought of that, Clarice. Brilliant in about eight different ways.

Danube of Thought

Sarah has got these dopes falling all over themselves, and the whole country talking about what a simpleton this guy is. And credit Rudy, too.

Porchlight

Tapper not happy about Obama blowing off the WH press corps for the past few months:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/president-obama-takes-questions-from-people-mag-entertainment-tonight-disses-white-house-press-corps/

Extraneus

I think it was coordinated. I don't think she'd go rogue on Romney at this point.

centralcal

Agree with you all on Sarah. I think she out-maneuvered Obama-Axelplouffe-Jarrett, and made if difficult to get rid of Joe.

Sarah Palin, Democrat Political Consultant advises Barack H. Obama on how to salvage his floundering campaign!

You betcha!

dublindave

"On top of that, narcissists never like canning somebody because of outside pressure because that makes them look weak and like they made a mistake and....."


And and and. You're talking about a President that gave to order to summarily execute the most dangerous terrorist in the world and who has had his practically had every other Al Quaeda leader murdered in cold blood; this President doesn't do weak.

Compare that with your leader; a man with who spends most of his time running from every position he ever had like a little bitch. A man who made the architect of the Republican economic policy, Paul Ryan, reject his own positions and ideology in favor of a cushy job.

Democrats have become scumbags carry baseball bats itching to break your fucking skull just for the fun of it.

The Chicago boys don't do weak.

Porchlight

Could be, Ext, with Rudy on the job too. I'd like to think Team Romney is reaching out to her on this stuff but I'm having a tiny bit of trouble picturing it just yet.

Rob Crawford

The sad thing is, they could count on Biden saying something stupid enough to cue the "replace him" line.

Captain Hate

Mark Warner is the Dem Golden Boy

How pathetic is that?

Granholm was born in Canada. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

Miss Bardahl isn't a real American? Oh the humanity...

Speaking of camera hungry blondes, Little Annie Unfunny must have taken her happy pills, or maybe the Ryan choice has her over her Saul funk, because she was laughing it up during the first half hour of the Dennis Miller show. Or maybe the airwaves are reacting to Tammy Bruce having lifted them up for 2 days subbing for Laura Ingraham.

dublindave

What I just wrote made no sense whatsoever.

Clarice

Interesting jujitsu, isn't it. The meritless Sarah is dumb meme hurt the R momentum in 2008 and now, but with good basis, she turns it back on them. I love this woman.

And speaking of winners:http://www.michellesmirror.com/2012/08/our-postmodern-post-racial-post.html

centralcal

Why just today at the WH Press Briefing:

Byron Tau ‏@ByronTau
Carney takes a SHOT at McCain, saying that he would not go to McCain for advice on a running mate.

Just imagine taking and following advice from Sarah Palin. Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

NK

For JOMers who live in Ohio, Ind. and Wisc, consider yourselves lucky you voted in Repubs before your states became Blue Hells like Ill. The Illinois state workers are marching and the Dem Gov is tryng to con Repubs for voting for union Approved pension 'reform.' This is the same BS game Cuomo pulled in NY and Malloy in Ct. If Ill. Repubs have any leaders and are smart, they'll tell the Dems to pound sand and pass their own bill, Repubs should wait until they win and pass real reform.

Ranger

The Chicago boys don't do weak.

No, but they apparently do stupid. Quite a lot of stupid in fact.

Ignatz

--and who has had his practically had--

It's always happy hour somewhere.

NK

Link to the Ill pension story http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-15/news/chi-unions-protest-democrats-at-illinois-state-fair-20120815_1_pension-systems-pension-reform-pat-quinn

Ignatz


--What I just wrote made no sense whatsoever.

Posted by: dublindave | August 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM--

Respectfully suggest you make that you're official sign off on every comment.

Some guy

Tapper not happy about Obama blowing off the WH press corps

That's quite interesting.

I predicted to a friend about six months ago that at some point the MSM would turn on Obama. His response was, "never happen."

As liberal as a majority of the press may be, they are still the media, and as long as I've been observing the media the one constant seems to be: the more they build you up, the faster they will tear you down.

I figured it would come after the election, but...

peter

At last insight.

JM Hanes

Bruce:

"They really don't have anyone else who has been properly vetted"

It seems like just yesterday that Obama had to fire his first controversial Veep vetter, doesn't it? Last time I looked at the White House salary roster, it seemed emblematic that Obama's on-staff vetters were getting what must pass for minimum wage in DC. Oppo research is where Obama has always placed his bets.

I'm sure the Prez would dump Biden in a heartbeat, if he could figure out a credible way to do it. He cut him out of the decision making loop long ago, but he's stuck between multiple rocks and hard places now. No one is going to believe Biden suddenly developed a debilitating medical condition on the heels of a major gaffe, or on the very cusp of the official deadline for designating the Democratic slate. If there's any window at all, it's got to be dauntingly narrow. Visions of the VP debate must be giving Team Obama serious heartburn, but at the same time, they can't afford to make Biden the center of a media free for all leading into the convention (Palin's clearly got his number there), and they can't afford to let the story of the President's switcheroo -- or his new running mate! -- dominate convention coverage.

I also suspect that replacing Biden is one patent Hail Mary too far for Obama, but I can certainly see him trying to lock the VP in a closet for the duration, and fielding a substitute surrogate -- like Hillary? -- in his place.

Danube of Thought

Bloomberg News:

Americans this month were the most pessimistic on the economic outlook since late last year as fuel prices rose and unemployment remained elevated.

The share of households viewing the economy as heading in the wrong direction rose to 45 percent in August, the highest since November, from 36 percent the prior month. The Bloomberg monthly expectations gauge dropped to minus 22 from minus 11. The weekly Bloomberg Consumer Comfort Index fell to minus 44.4 in the period ended Aug. 12, lowest since January, from minus 41.9

“The American public appears to have tired of running harder to stand still, expressing their displeasure with the current state of economic affairs in the country and their own personal finances,” said Joseph Brusuelas, a senior economist at Bloomberg LP in New York.

Rob Crawford

Some guy -- the press will turn completely on Obama when it becomes apparent he will lose. They will be trying to curry favor with the incoming administration *AND* distance themselves from the outgoing failure.

But, in the end, I don't expect anything more than a few "he didn't talk to us enough/didn't listen to us enough" pieces. They will always love him, deep down in their black, rotted hearts.

Captain Hate

<>But, in the end, I don't expect anything more than a few "he didn't talk to us enough/didn't listen to us enough" pieces. They will always love him, deep down in their black, rotted hearts.

The ultimate abused spouses.

Extraneus

It's rare to come across lib humor that's actually funny. (From Clarice's MOTUS link.)

hrtshpdbox

Ryan shook up the race, now Obama needs to show he can shake things up too, by replacing Biden. At which point Romney will do a counter-shake, replacing himself at the top of the ticket with Santorum. Alas, then Obama goes for the most royal of shakes, declaring himself king.

Ranger

It doesn't so much fly, as plumet:

Is GM already on track to go bankrupt, again?

Heck of a job there Barry.

sbw

rse, what are the personnel connections between Pearson Education and your research. They are the ones who would gain beaucoup dollars from running the national testing program.

If Pearson provides the hypodermic syringe to inject sweet nothings into our cherubs' education, who provides the medicinal content to be repeated by rote until it "scores well"?

Captain Hate

Heck of a job there Barry.

There goes one of his major "accomplishments" in the last 3+ years. Sooner or later he might have to talk about the wildly unpopular Bammycare.

Rick Ballard

NK,

Obama won Pennsylvania by 605K votes. When I run the Franklin & Marshal generated Obama preference numbers against the '08 exit poll results, Obama loses 708.5K votes -and Pennsylvania. The MoF would have to be >4% to pull it out by theft.

The F&M poll is by no means dispositive but Obama's problem with Independents is compounded by the weakness of Dem support in Pennsylvania. I think he should spend an extraordinary amount of money there if he hopes to hold it.

Rick Ballard

NK,

Obama won Pennsylvania by 605K votes. When I run the Franklin & Marshal generated Obama preference numbers against the '08 exit poll results, Obama loses 708.5K votes -and Pennsylvania. The MoF would have to be >4% to pull it out by theft.

The F&M poll is by no means dispositive but Obama's problem with Independents is compounded by the weakness of Dem support in Pennsylvania. I think he should spend an extraordinary amount of money there if he hopes to hold it.

centralcal

Extraneus, they have some pretty humorous commenters over at MOTUS, too.

schatzi (commenter)
Team Obama flew their horse to the Olympics, too, so what's the boeuf about dat?

Porchlight

I can certainly see him trying to lock the VP in a closet for the duration, and fielding a substitute surrogate -- like Hillary? -- in his place.

I can see this too. Would Hillary agree? Would anyone? I think the Prez is running out of willing surrogates.

Sort of related question: is Obama helping any other Dems campaign this cycle? I haven't paid attention but I'm assuming they're all telling him to stay away. If so that's a major indicator of a doomed re-election campaign. A confident, popular President should be in demand.

dublindave

Respectfully suggest you make that you're[sic] official sign off on every comment.


Heh.

NK

RickB-- all you say is accurate and makes sense. The unknown is what is the MOF? My complete speculation is 100K in Philly alone; add to that the SW Pa towns. If RR are winning Pa by 100k votes, the fraud machine will go ALL OUT. Bam will go maximum effort in Pa., Ohio and NoVa. That's my guess.

Some guy

Ranger,

One piece of info missing from that GM piece -- guess what GM has used to increase sales (besides taxpayers)?

They have significantly increased the number of *sub-prime* loans used to sell cars:

"The automaker is relying increasingly on subprime loans, 10-Q financial reports shows.

Potential borrowers of car loans are rated on FICO scores that range from 300 to 850. Anything under 660 is generally deemed subprime.

Subprime Key Driver

GM Financial auto loans to customers with FICO scores below 660 rose from 87% of total loans in Q4 2010 to 93% in Q1 2012.

The worse the FICO score, the bigger the increase. From Q4 2010 to Q1 2012, GM Financial loans to customers with the worst FICO scores — below 540 — shot up 79% to more than $2.3 billion. The second worst category, 540-599, rose 28% from about $3.4 billion to $4.3 billion.

Prime loans, those above 660, dropped 42% to $676 million."


Heck of job Barry indeed.

NK

Some Guy-- what injury can risky loans cause to an industry like autombiles and to the taxpayers-- oh wait....

Jane

Dot, Mark,

I'm not at my office. I will contact both of you when I get back. Thank you!

Thomas Collins
"I'm sure the Prez would dump Biden in a heartbeat, if he could figure out a credible way to do it."

JMH, I don't think Obama needs a credible way to dump Biden. He and the rest of his team will scoff at the notion that Biden will be dumped until the announcement. When it is announced, there will be a media storm, but it will die down. Any persuadables that Obama would lose in battleground states due to their disgust with the switcheroo would, unfortunately, be more than offset by persuadables who will be enchanted by the idea that Hillary will be set up to become the first female POTUS in 2016.

The only way I don't see this happening is either (i) Biden says he won't play ball, or (ii) Obama's contempt toward the Clintons gets the better of him. It's hard for me to conceive of a scenario in which Obama is not helped with battleground states persuadables after the dust clears.

The Granholm rumor seems plausible if Obama decides he can't stomach Hillary Clinton on the ticket. Granholm, I think, would also help with battleground persuadables. However, I suspect the Clintons have already communicated to Obama that Granholm is unacceptable (as would any Veep candidate be unacceptable to the Clintons if that candidate could plausibly challenge Hillary in 2016). There's also the natural born issue. Hey, at least TK would be in TK's glory! :-))

JM Hanes

Some guy:

Sure hope Romney has that list in his debate pocket when Obama inevitably tries to pass himself off as GM's savior, and the hope of American industry.

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