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October 20, 2012

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MarkO

"Dick Morris says the October Surprise is a deal with Iran to stop it's nuclear program."

Would Obama waive that paper in the air and declare peace in our time? Just to keep Obama and be certain of a weapon, Iran would sign anything.

Lay, Lady, Lay. Brought to you by the letter "L" and little Bobby Zimmerman

PD

light-bringer

Wasn't it "lightworker"? Light-bringer is lux ferre, Lucifer.

I was thinking about that term earlier this morning, actually. Wouldn't any normal person be embarrassed to have people refer to him as "the lightworker"?

The linked article is a hoot. It purports to detail the many accomplishments of Obama. Many of them consist of holding meetings, "instructing" agencies to do such-and-such, etc. In other words, the usual yammering without doing. Oh, yeah, and "limiting" lobbyist access to the WH. Can't forget that!

Clarice

C,R, That article accords with my understanding of the blago leaks. It's also interesting because it shows how Fitz plays the press. Of course, I doubt that's the first instance of it.

Cecil Turner

Raz swing state tracking:

Romney 50, Obama 46.

Factoring in the late break for the challenger (75-80%), that comes to 53-47, which is about where I think the electorate is. I also suspect there's a significant Bradley effect in play, manifested in the main by people refusing to respond to pollsters, which accounts for much of the variance in polling.

I'd also note the late application by Gallup of the LV screen caused exactly the "shift" one would expect (about 5+% toward the GOP), and that it's consistent with what one would expect from the RV polling earlier.

Clarice

In some old movie, "I think the Ten Commandments" Yul Brynner played the pharaoh and intoned "So it is written, so it is done". Dems seem to think like that. If the words are spoken or written in some half assed treaty, they consider the deed to be complete.So if Obama orders something sone--voila..consider it done. Check it off the list. HEH

MarkO

It's were.

Tourist comes into town, big seafood buff. He gets into a cab, asks the driver, "Where can I get scrod?" Cabbie turns around, looks at him. "Bud," he says, "I've been asked that many times, many ways. But that's the first time I ever heard it asked for in the pluperfect subjunctive."

PD

Clarice, that's the movie. I think it went, "So let it be written. So let it be done."

Porchlight

Great OH analysis at BattlegroundWatch using data from NumbersMuncher (Josh Jordan at NRO).

BattlegroundWatch: Ohio: Is Obama's Firewall Really Just A Maginot Line?

Can't say it often enough - if you're a poll junkie like me, you should be reading BattlegroundWatch every day. It has an amazing amount of great data focused on swing states, and ground reports too.

centralcal

I am confused. Been busy and not able to follow all links or read thoroughly, so I figure I can get the summary here.

OfA borrowed $15 million from B of A.
DNC borrowed $15 million from Amalgamated Bank.

Are these two separate loans, one and the same loan?

Clarice

cc, I could be wrong (as usual) but I think DNC pulled its money out of B of A and put it in Amalgamated from which it borrowed $15 m.

Here's what wiki says about Amalgamated:
malgamated Bank is a national bank owned by the Workers United/SEIU labor union. It was founded by the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America in 1923.[2] It is headquartered in New York City.[3]

Until September 2011 Amalgamated Bank was the only bank in the United States wholly owned by a labor union. That September, WL Ross & Company and Yucaipa Companies, two private equity firms each invested a 20 percent stake in the company.[4] The move was sparked by Amalgamated's low liquidity levels, which had been flagged by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the New York State Banking Department.[5]

Dela Cruz

Reno Gazette Journal endorses Romney for President.

In 2008, they said Barry was little known but they believed it was worth the chance so they endorsed Hussein.

http://www.rgj.com/article/20121020/OPED01/310200021/Nevada-needs-change-now-elect-Mitt-Romney-president?nclick_check=1

Janet

"pity the poor four guys on camels who do not realize they are today's aspirin factory".

Old Lurker's 11:03 post is great!

Porchlight

The Reno Gazette-Journal endorses Romney with the headline "Nevada needs a change now; elect Mitt Romney president":

http://www.rgj.com/article/20121020/OPED01/310200021/Nevada-needs-change-now-elect-Mitt-Romney-president

They endorsed Obama in 2008.

BobS

Good call on that website, Porchlight....have it faved now

C.R.

True, I was just thinking that he certainly seemed to have a high "tolerance" for Armitage's leak.

Porchlight

Great, BobS - you won't regret it. I don't know who this Keith Backer guy is but maybe he'll be the next Cost or Geraghty. NumbersMuncher (Josh Jordan) is great too.

JM Hanes

GMax:

"I think the concentration or Mormons in Nevada can not be overlooked although the pollsters seem to be doing a fair job of it to date."

I wouldn't put at lot of eggs in the Nevada Mormon basket, although they'll surely go Republican.

Nevada had just 375,000 registered voters in 1998 when Reid won his first Senate race. Now, more than a million voters are on the books. There are nearly 700,000 voters in Clark County alone.

At the same time the state's population was exploding, Nevada's Mormon population slipped from 12% in 1986 to an estimated 7% today....

.... in a populations that is now 27% Hispanic. On the plus side, they've got a Republican Hispanic governor. On the minus side, you've got endemic corruption, a huge union presence, and Harry Reid, who will clearly do or say anything to butter his bread with Oleaginous Obama. Reid trounced Angle in Clark County by 13% in 2010, which translated into a statewide win of 5%. Obama won Nevada by 12.5% in 2008 -- more than twice the take of previous presidential victors, whether Republican or Democrat, so he starts out with a lot more wiggle room than he got with his 14,000 vote margin in a state like NC.

Definitely an interesting study! Would I be right in thinking that Romney has spent very little time campaigning there?

C.R.

Mel's question last night about where is the printing money going from the Obama campaign reminded me of something from the Venezuelan election. Chavez paid out a 30% annual bonus to some workers on the Friday prior to the weekend election:

11:00PM EST Álvaro Uribe, former president of Colombia, retweets a photo of a letter dated October 4, 2012.

The letter says, “I write to you, sending you a Patriotic and Revolutionary message, following the instructions of our commander Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías, to advice you of the payment of a Year’s End Bonus to be delivered on Friday, October 5, 2012, for the amount of thirty percent (30%) of the annual basic salary.

“With this incentive, the government expresses its confidence that on October 7 our commander will be re-elected.”

C.R.

Although, I personally think they are out of money.

JM Hanes

Here's something to keep the Grammar Police entertained.

BobS

Say....any chat in here about a conspiracy between O and Crowley on the Rose Garden "acts of terror" transcript? Crowley picked up a piece of paper after Obama said go to the transcript. At any rate, the whole thing reminded me of the Cars "Candy-O"

Candy-O, I need you
Sunday dress, ruby ring
Candy-O, I need you so
Could you help me in?

Purple hum, assorted cards
Razor lights you'll bring
And all to prove you're on the move
And vanishing

Candy-O, I need you so
Candy-O, I need you so
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak

Danube of Thought on Ipad

Gallup daily LV horserace: Romney 51, Obama 45.

RV horserace is R 48, O 46.

Porchlight

BobS, I think it was clearly planned between Team Obama and Crowley.

The great Iggy Pop song "Candy" (w/Kate Pierson from B-52's) has been going through my head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bLOjmY--TA

Porchlight

3 days in a row over 50 with a 5 point or better lead, in the second half of October.

Gee, I can't think what this might mean.

Porchlight

Make that 4 days in a row.

PD

It means, "make sure to vote."

Captain Hate

It's Tuskegee all over again only better: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/18/epas-illegal-human-experiments/

Some people need to go to jail for this

JM Hanes

MarkO:

Maybe it's just something in the grammatical zeitgeist, but I suddenly feel compelled to nitpick:

"But that's the first time I ever heard it asked for in the pluperfect subjunctive."

Alas, sometimes the most important detail of a joke gets lost in circulation. In this case, what makes it truly funny, is that the Tourist doesn't just come into any old town, he grabs a taxi in Boston (where Academia's reign predates our national inception, and even the cabbie's have PhD's).

MarkO

JMH, it first made me laugh in 1963.

Some Guy

BobS, I think it was clearly planned between Team Obama and Crowley.

There is no doubt it was planned by Team Obama, but highly unlikely it was planned in conjunction with Crowley.

It would be quite easy to make Crowley a pawn without having to make her a co-conspirator -- she'd been in frequent contact with both campaigns leading up to the debate, and Axelhole or someone would just take pains to mention, and possibly misquote, his 9/12 remarks to her. Then say, 'oh, we should get you a transcript' knowing she won't have time to review it before the debate.

In the Crowley's specific case, I'd rely on Hanlon's Razor.

Chubby

((Dick Morris says the October Surprise is a deal with Iran to stop it's nuclear program.))

yes, Jane, and now Obama is doing campaign prep at Camp David of all places ... those two things together are making me a bit nervous. If Obama drops that he had negotiated a deal with Iran at the debate, that could be a ko punch imo. I am wondering where Morris got such an idea in his head: was it leaked to him?

Scott allsman

Gman, are you a past poster at HHR?

PD

that could be a ko punch imo

For Obama or Romney?

Rick Ballard

JMH,

Nevada's population may be 27% Hispanic but the Census tables regarding the 2008 election put their turnout at 11.6% of the total vote with blacks accounting for 10.2% and white non-Hispanics accounting for 72.4%.

Governor Romney has no more reason to back off in Nevada than he does in Colorado. New Mexico appears beyond reach but not Nevada.

C.R.

Speaking of the money the Romney campaign has on hand...they have a program for Californians where you can sign up to go by bus to Nevada on the weekends to walk precincts or make calls. "Transportation, lodging, and meals will be provided during your time in Nevada."

That's pretty impressive.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Of all the things in the world to worry about I'd have to say there are about 250,000 more worrisome than Barry Chamberlain coming back from Camp Munich telling us there will be peace in our time.

centralcal

A deal with Iran? I don't know Chubby - are there enough voters who trust Iran to honor any deals? I sure don't - no matter who is President.

C.R.

I heard Morris saying that yesterday and thought he was crazy..."peace in our time".

pagar

Anyone think we will hear more about this?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/muslim-brotherhood-behind-benghazi-attack-with-link-to-obama/

Chubby

speaking of grammar...

((If Obama drops that he had negotiated a deal with Iran at the debate...))

I misspoke in the above. No, I don't think Obama will negotiate a deal with Iran at the debate.

but perhaps he might waive :) (h/t MarkO) around a paper or a binder or somesuch

Danube of Thought on Ipad

For several years now I've been ignoring everything Dick Morris said.

PD

but perhaps he might waive :) (h/t MarkO) around a paper or a binder or somesuch

A binder with a Big Bird sticker on the cover?

Chubby

((Of all the things in the world to worry about I'd have to say there are about 250,000 more worrisome))

I have often been told that I worry too much, and last night I could hardly sleep worrying about this. I so hope you are 100% right Ignatz.

Some Guy

A "deal" with Iran would be a great opportunity to hammer O, he would be blindsided by the ridicule. That would be worse than a 'wag the dog' this close to the election, particularly because he won't have any kind of enforceable agreement only a 'framework' or some other nonsense.

Also, how could O do such as deal as an October 'Surprise' when Romney is getting daily intelligence briefings?

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--The great Iggy Pop song "Candy" (w/Kate Pierson from B-52's) has been going through my head:--

The comments about Minaj and Bieber in the background of that video were a hoot, Porch.

Frau Hoffnungslos

Just ruined my good morning mood by looking at CNN site about the tainted Candy moderating. The locals were adamant that Candy, as impartial moderator, was supposed to expose Romney's lies. It really makes me feel the country is truly and terminally fractured.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--and last night I could hardly sleep worrying about this--

Chub, I know I've posted this several times but it's always applicable:
Matthew 6:34.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--The locals were adamant that Candy, as impartial moderator, was supposed to expose Romney's lies.--

And even better, on Planet LIBTARD (h/t Gus) that she didn't expose any of Barry's lies is proof not that she's a dope, a dupe or a biased clown, but that Barry never tells any.

Chubby

on the non-worry front, I found some love in my heart for Karl Lagerfeld today, for calling the president of France an idiot.

Chubby

Ignatz: ((Matthew 6:34))

thank you for the kind reminder Ignatz.

34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Clarice

SCAM has posted a sign up sheet behind the bar, seeking the names , addresses and other contact info for those paying attention toDick Morris.

We appreciate your cooperation.


Taranto had the fairest explanation for Crowley's behavior. Inadvertent pawn of Axelrod with whom she'd debated this point on Sept 30. Still, if she'd followed the agreed upon rules this wouldn't have happened,

The explanation for why she gave Obama so much more time--and time keeping actually was her job--that he spoke more slowly, is, however, a damning admission by CNN.

maryrose

Thank you Iggy and Chubby for that wonderful passage.
If we worry needlessly it takes all our energy away from what is really important. I am determined that Sherrod Brown will not be re-elected. All my effort has to go into that.Ohio over the years has always had dipwad senators like Glenn and Metzenbaum and Brown. They are like a scourge we cannot be cured of anytime soon. I want Ohio to help put Romney over the top and I want Brown gone and 2 repub senators for Ohio. I think it will be Ohio because I know they won't call it early and some stupid snafu downtown at the Board of Elections and Cuyahoga County will hold up the results.

C.R.

One thing that is brewing this October is more rumors of Castro's imminent demise, a loosening of exit visas for Cubans & the threat of a 2nd Mariel boatlift. I have no idea if or how this would affect the election in Florida or nationally.

Have Blue

Per the transcript that Candy had - The debate rules stated that candidates were forbidden charts, notes or other props; but not forbidden to leave such notes and props with the 'moderator' to reveal on their cue?

Sue

Was. If I was from Cal-i-forn-i-a it might be were.

Clarice

cc, on double checking I was wrong. DNC owes $15 m to B of A and another $15 m to Amalgamated Bank. Looks like contributions to me..I mean what collateral?

Have Blue

Ohio - I have not done the math for all of the CD's myself but have read that in 2010 the congressional voting was 52% to 42% in Ohio. Of all of the Ohio residents who went to the polls 52% voted for a Republican, 42% for a Democrat and the rest either voted third party or did not vote on that line.

Anybody parsing the current numbers against this? I have heard that there is no talk of expectations of Dems picking up congressional seats in Ohio. Or several other battleground states.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Looks like contributions to me..I mean what collateral?

Posted by: Clarice | October 20, 2012 at 02:26 PM--

TARP and GM?

JM Hanes

Rick:

"Governor Romney has no more reason to back off in Nevada than he does in Colorado."

I wasn't suggesting he should. I was suggesting that many people overestimate the Mormon factor there, and underestimate the advantages that the corrupt, heavily unionized, political machine headed up by Harry Reid gives Team Obama. I could be mistaken, but Romney, himself, doesn't seem to be actively courting Nevada voters, so I'd put in the lean-Obama column, and pray for a wave.

daddy

"OfA borrowed $15 million from B of A.
DNC borrowed $15 million from Amalgamated Bank.

Are these two separate loans, one and the same loan?"

CentralCal, If they try to explain their accounting like they try to explain taking the $716 Billion from Medicare, then they'll say that B of A and Amalgamated are doing swell, that the DNC is solvent, and that Jon Corzine has no idea where the money went.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

With less than 17 days to the election even the Chicago dopes have to know any surprise move by them would be close to suicidal re Iran, Cuba or just about anything else.

Best they can do is have some surrogate try a dirty trick or some foreign enemy give them an opportunity, and the latter is still fraught with all sorts of 'wag the dog' peril.

Jane - Mock the Media!

I am wondering where Morris got such an idea in his head: was it leaked to him?

I've actually heard the same thing before - not from Morris. It wouldn't surprise me in the least. But anyone would be absolutely stupid to believe it would last one day past the election. I think the Fox contributor who talks too fast with a ME accent and squeaky voice has been talking about it.

daddy

Thought I would mention that the ad upper left on my JOM page here in Paris on a company computer says "Tell Congress to keep drilling out of the Arctic and protect The Polar Bears."

centralcal

Well, humor me Clarice - I could understand DNC having to borrow money, since Obama declared early on he was gonna be stingy and not share a single dime raised with any other Dems. (Loan #1)

However, I have seen it written that it was the Obama campaign that took out one of the $15 million loans. That is what confuses me. (Loan #2) They are on path per their filings and their PR to raising the much ballyhooed $1 billion. If they need a loan of a mere $15 million less than 2 weeks before the election - something is really rotten in Denmark Obamaland.

Then there are the stories of DNC not paying up for the convention and deep in the hole; plus several stories of Obama Campaign not paying local communities for services provided when he held events in their town.

It is all confusing - but it sounds like Obama (apart from DNC) has spent a lot of money, is not paying his bills, and is still broke? It all makes me dizzy. (Just like Obama has run the country.)

Clarice

According to Washington Free Beacon it seems to be two separate loans.

Another Bob

Ahem folks, I mentioned above that the OFA money thing is the last big "bank job".

0! essentially takes that money with him when he leaves office, right?

Or am I wrong about that?

Jane - Mock the Media!

Holy cow Pagar.

GMax

Gravis Marketing has it 47 47 in Ohio this morning with a sample that is D + 9. Zero won the state in 08 by 4.6%. Most years Ohio is nominally Republican historically.

Threadkiller

BobS wants conspiracy, BobS gets conspiracy.


http://beforeitsnews.com/media/2012/10/the-obamamedia-plot-to-take-out-soon-to-be-president-elect-willard-mitt-romney-2447200.html

Rick Ballard

"Anybody parsing the current numbers against this?"

I glance at them occasionally.

GMax

an article datelined Columbus Ohio from today on what is actually going on in Early voting and what it likely means in Ohio by a history professor:

http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/viewart/20121020/NEWS01/310200012/GOP-voters-flock-early-ballots

maryrose

Gmax:
There is no way it will be d+9 in Ohio The gravis poll succeeds in making it look like a horsrace nothing more. In fact at this point, Obama is desperate for the appearance of a dead heat otherwise it is going to be a blow-out.

Sara

Say, shouldn't it be "now I lie me down to sleep"?

"LAY DOWN, Grandma, you've had your pill and you have to lay down."

"Take you hands off of me!"

"You have to lay down, Grandma, now!"

"You listen to me, young lady, if you are going to treat me like a child and order me around, then you damn well better do it grammatically. It is 'lie down' Grandma."

"You hear me, it is lie down?"

(Stiffening up and refusing to move.)

(I enter room.)

"Mother, you have to lie down, you know the pill turns your legs to jelly."

"Yes, I will LIE down. Now, you teach that walking pony tail some basic grammar."

Okay, I will, I promise, now will you please lie down."

"Of course I will. Night night everyone."

(Exchange between my Mother, a few weeks before she died, and my daughter-in-law that has become part of the family stories we laugh about. My d-i-l learned the lesson.)

Rick Ballard

Maryrose,

If they don't make it a horse race then all the Ohio garden border firewall nonsense analysis becomes meaningless.

What would we talk about?

centralcal

Interesting observations (tweet by tweet) by Jay Cost (sometimes in conversation with those on the left highly critical of Gallup):

Jay Cost ‏@JayCostTWS

Here's a big reason I'm so anti poll this cycle: Has Gallup tilted to the right in the age of Obama? Absolutely...

...But thrice as many polls have leaned left. Question is who gets called out by the powers that be? Gallup gets bird dogged...

...But Marist, which screwed the pooch in 2010 with is last LV model, gets promoted to be NBC's house pollster...

I think it is just kinda funny at this point that PPP takes so many contracts from organized labor while maintaining an independent pose...

...But GALLUP is the big problem for the industry this cycle.

Here's the trick of it all: when you realize the refs are playing for the other side, you have to stop playing their game.

Clarice

Charlotte Business Journal:
"Duke Energy Corp. is on the hook for $7.9 million after Charlotte fundraisers were unable to raise enough money for September’s Democratic National Convention.

The Charlotte in 2012 Host Committee fell millions short of its $36.65 million fundraising goal for the DNC, despite numerous statements that the efforts were “right on track."

According to its filing Wednesday with the Federal Elections Commission, the Charlotte in 2012 Host Committee raised $24.14 million and borrowed $10.9 million. Taking into account only contributions received to defray convention expenses, the Charlotte in 2012 host committee missed its fundraising target by $12.51 million.

Instead, the host committee was forced to dip into a $10 million credit line with Fifth Third Bank that was backed by a guarantee from Duke Energy.

Details on the fundraising shortfalls were filed today with the Federal Election Commission. That includes a report for its New American City fund, which generated $20.06 million for the Democratic National Convention by sidestepping strict rules on collecting contributions. Supplemental forms were also filed that lists 20 companies that provided goods and services during September’s Democratic National Convention.

Duke Energy released a statement today that it will work with convention organizers to make sure the debt is repaid by the credit line agreement’s due date of Feb. 28.

“Duke Energy has not and will not use any utility customer funds to pay for any aspects of the convention, or events associated with the convention,” the Charlotte-based electricity giant said Wednesday.

However, that statement doesn’t rule out Duke covering the debt using funds from other sources. Consider: Utility-customer funds weren’t used for the DNC, as the company stated.

But the company (NYSE:DUKE) still supported the convention and its organizers with $5.7 million in cash and in-kind (non-cash) contributions “to support the host committee’s programs to promote economic growth,” Duke says.

That included temporary uptown office space and parking, plus $4 million in cash.

Duke was an early supporter of Charlotte’s efforts to win the convention. In 2010, the company said it would guarantee the $10 million line of credit to help the city secure hosting duties for the 2012 Democratic National Convention.

“The purpose of the line of credit is to help the local host committee manage its cash flow during the convention fundraising process,” Duke said today.

The Democratic National Convention Committee — separate from the local host committee — filed its third-quarter FEC report Monday detailing nearly $8 million spent during the three months surrounding DNC week in Charlotte. The DNC Committee listed $7.99 million in expenditures from June 1 to Sept. 30 in a 547-page report that included salaries, security, hospitality and transportation."

Annoying Old Guy
the pharaoh and intoned "So let it be written, so let it be done". Dems seem to think like that

I have noticed that for years, I use the term "logo-realism" to describe it. It's a bad side effect of post modernism. There are parts of reality where logo-realism works. For example, why are you married? Because people, including you, said so. That bit of reality was created by words alone.

But these people live so isolated from the underlying layers of reality they forget that logo-realism only works for part of reality (the human social part). Worse, even against physical reality it can work for a while, as Margaret Thatcher observed about socialism. Until the Gods of the Copybook Headings drop by for a re-education session.

Captain Hate

Ohio over the years has always had dipwad senators like Glenn and Metzenbaum and Brown.

Is there a more worthless donk tool than Glenn? I wish good luck to whoever has him in their dead pool.

Porchlight

Then say, 'oh, we should get you a transcript' knowing she won't have time to review it before the debate.

But Candy stated that she herself was interested in the Rose Garden remarks and decided to get the transcript and have it with her at the debate. And how else to reconcile her debate behavior with her previous grilling of Axelrod on the exact same issue?

Iggy, I saw that comment about Bieber at the Iggy Pop video - heh.

derwill

--the pharaoh and intoned "So let it be written, so let it be done". Dems seem to think like that--

I have a little story along those lines . . . When I was living in SF, I went one evening to a fund raiser put on by a non-profit for the opera. A woman came up to me and started going on and on about how wonderful the organization's diversity program was.

So I looked around the room and saw only over 50, well-to-do, 100% white people, and I blurted out, "You all don't look all that diverse to me."

She snapped back, "Well, it's in our mission statement!" and went off in a huff.

See, for her just having the magic word "diversity" in their mission statement was enough. Actually having living breathing non-white bread members was not required.

Although, in fairness to her, there probably was a nice representation of the LGBT crowd.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Although, in fairness to her, there probably was a nice representation of the LGBT crowd.--

Well, if we're talking fairness the LGBT crowd is usually up for a threesome or more, their drugs are much less likely to kill you and you don't have to count the silverware compared to those smelly blacks and hispanics.

daveinboca

That Sununu/Andrea Mitchell link was wonderful, daddy. But bobs mis-identifies my native state of WI as WS. Governor Walker did survive a nasty campaign, thanks be to God.

pagar

Thanks Jane, I had hoped to get some discussion of how upset some people are going to be as we learn more about what the Muslim Brotherhood discusses during their many visits to the WH. Course we could also discuss the chances of a WH staffer who revealed the info having a life span longer than Vince Foster.

"source within the White House states that it was arranged as an October surprise by Barack Obama."

http://www.westernjournalism.com/muslim-brotherhood-behind-benghazi-attack-with-link-to-obama/

Bitterlaw

Hello. I'm looking for a refugee from The Hedgehog Report. He's a sad, pathetic man who was known as Gary Maxwell. He may be posting as GMax here. We would like to talk to him over at HHR. You seem like nice people so I hope he comes over quietly. Thank you.

derwill

The problem I have with this trade of the blind sheik for the kidnapped ambassador theory is that I think it would have ended up hurting Obama more than helping him. "We do not negotiate with terrorists," is such a big part of the American psyche--think of all the movies and TV shows where you've heard that line. I think, negotiating with terrorists and giving up the blink sheik, of all people, would have made the president look really weak in the muddle's eyes.

I lean more to the theory that Stevens was there to buy back very dangerous weapons that we gave to the "rebels" that either ended up in al Queda's hands, or were just given to al Queda directly in typical kumbaya idiocy.

Welcome Wagon

"You seem like nice people so I hope he comes over quietly. "

Eat me!

Bitterlaw

Hello. I'm looking for a refugee from The Hedgehog Report. He's a sad, pathetic man who was known as Gary Maxwell. He may be posting as GMax here. We would like to talk to him over at HHR. You seem like nice people so I hope he comes over quietly. Thank you.

Paging Mr. Maxwell

Danube of Thought on Ipad

"Ohio over the years has always had dipwad senators like Glenn and Metzenbaum and Brown."

Didn't the grace us with the dolt Voinovich?

Rick Ballard

Derwill,

I don't see much upside at all for Governor Romney pursuing the Benghazi situation. BOzo can lay down smoke and fog sufficient to blind the muddle and the muddle doesn't much care anyway. Flogging China, particularly with a tie in to subsidizing their solar panel business, would seem to be a more advantageous tack.

Talk about the need to reduce subsidies to the IMF and UN due to the OPM Famine would be pleasant to hear but I'm not betting on hearing it.

Sara

Forward this to every woman voter you know, please.


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Frankly, we were completely, totally, absolutely fed up. That’s what we told a reporter from the Milwaukee Sentinel today who asked us why a group of female executives are traveling the country telling women about our former boss Mitt Romney. We were frustrated that so many women were getting a picture of Mitt from the media and negative ads that just doesn't match up with the man we all know and worked with in Salt Lake and Massachusetts. We’re smart women; we know it’s a big country; and we know we’re only a few voices. But we also know we have insights and stories that women voters want to hear before they make up their minds – so we decided to hit the road and tell as many women as we can what Mitt Romney is really like from the perspective of the women who worked with him every day.

[...]

I called a number of my old colleagues from the Olympics and Massachusetts to see if they would be willing to spend the next few weeks on the road, telling the stories of their time working with Mitt. Everyone said yes. No matter what our political affiliation - Republican, Democrat, or Independent – we’ve all seen first-hand how Mitt leads, we've seen how he makes decisions, we've seen how he can fix huge problems, we’ve seen how he treats women with respect and as true equal colleagues in the workplace, and we've seen how he cares. We've had times when Mitt reached out and helped us through a tough time personally, when he challenged us to grow professionally, when he believed in us and backed us. We've laughed with him - a lot, debated and argued, watched his face light up when Ann Romney walks in a room. He's been there for our weddings and he's been there to comfort us and grieve with us in times of personal loss. We've watched him "go through walls" to do what he's promised. Mitt has to fix anything that's broken, and he just won't stop until the job is done.

Chubby

((See, for her just having the magic word "diversity" in their mission statement was enough. Actually having living breathing non-white bread members was not required.))

derwell, I disagree that you can judge diversity by looking at appearance. true diversity is how people think, and there might have been apolitical people there, libbies, righties, athiests, fundies, and on and on.

pagar

"s such a big part of the American psyche"

Does Obama think like that? He's a guy who thinks it's OK to have live aborted babies laid on store room shelves to die. IMO, the average American does not think like that.

Jane - Mock the Media!

I was invited to the 100th DaTechguy radio show today - was even on air for about 2 minutes, and got to meet a bunch of people including Sissy Willis (who tweets about once every 10 seconds, and right wing granny.

Also met 2 young guys - in their 20's who were shocked that I knew who Gary Johnson is and who proceeded to tell me Romney and Obama are exactly the same.

Regardless, it was wonderful to see some young people engaged. At every tea party meeting or other political event everyone seems to be as old as me. We need to change that.

narciso

No, that story really doesn't make sense, Stevens is our man in Tripoli, but he was averse to Bel Hadj and the folks behind him,
who hang around more in Doha then Riyadh,

MarkO

" He's a guy who thinks it's OK to have live aborted babies laid on store room shelves to die."

I would venture that more than 90% of Obama supporters would not believe that was his actual position.

narciso

Seems like Atkisson is on the case, again;


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57536611/could-u.s-military-have-helped-during-libya-attack/

narciso

Hey Bob S, how are you doing, and DaveIn Boca, by the way.

narciso

Is she doing a Constanza as well;

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/10/20/nina-totenberg-thered-be-no-reason-send-susan-rice-out-lie

Chubby

narciso, I am so glad she is writing about that angle because that is the part of the debacle that has troubled me the most.

from your link:

(("You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."))

Porchlight

Photo from Romney/Ryan rally in Daytona Beach last night - est. crowd size 10K:

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