Debate Night!

Let's have the big debate night open thread.

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[Jane - Mock the Media!]

So glad you are back TM!

[GMax]

Florida poll seems to support what the Suffolk polling director said, Florida is going for Romney:

A new Tampa Bay Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald poll shows Mitt Romney at 51 percent, with President Obama lagging behind at 44 percent. A month ago, Obama was ahead by one point, 48 percent to Romney’s 47 percent.

And a lot of the movement is due to the debate:

The debate prompted 5 percent of previously undecided voters and 2 percent of Obama backers to move to Romney. Another 2 percent of Obama supporters said they are now undecided because of the debate.

“There’s no question in my mind that debate made people stand up and pay attention, and it really wiped away any questions people had about Romney, whether they were undecided or soft for Obama,” said Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, which conducted the poll for the Times and its media partners.

[centralcal]

TM - thank you. You Rock!

[JM Hanes]

I'm suddenly not sure I can watch. Have to locate the TUMS and the tranquilizers.

[Eric in Boise]

Thanks TM!!

[Mark Folkestad]

Dang. A thread short enough to catch up with! I hope my friends here haven't said too much of a profound nature while I've been absent. I'd hate to miss out. Have the doomsayers here calmed down a bit? I'm with the folks predicting at least something close to a landslide.

[Some Guy]

Waiting for another load of manure to be delivered...

[Captain Hate]

I'll be back and read this when it's all over. I can't stand watching these and rarely have.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Gawd Bill O'Reilly is such an ass.

[DebinNC]

I'm sure I can't watch it. Hoping Jane will live-blog, so if things go awry I'll be laughing too hard to notice.

[GMax]

If extreme firepower is decisive in most firefights, well just consider Joe Biden to be an unarmed man...

[Sue]

Cool. Lets party.

[PD]

I love it when Mrs. PD gives me the pepperoni from her piece of debate-watching pizza.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

I'm not gonna live blog - but I will probably say too much as always.

[Eric in Boise]

Jane - I'm counting on it.

[PD]

Like cowbell, there's no such thing as too much Jane.

[Clarice]

I'm counting on you guys. I can't bear to watch it myself.

[Thomas Collins]

The Fox guy is giving a fair and balanced introduction.

[JM Hanes]

Jane:

Love your live blogging, but it's about time you had a chance to give your superior snark free reign! Or would that be rein? Rock on!

[henry]

I've already had too much Raddatz

[PD]

Hits Joe w/Libya right off the bat.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Biden goes first. The first question: Libya - no protesters. Wasn't this a massive intelligence failure. Biden "yes".

[Eric in Boise]

I'm thinking that expectations have been set so low for Biden that short of a "Y'all in chains" or "FDR going on TV after the crash" remark, this will be spun as a "solid comeback" for the lightworker's team.

We'll see.

[PD]

Joe says it was a "tragedy." No, it was a terror attack.

[Thomas Collins]

Raddatz starting with Libya. Asks Biden whether it is a massive intelligence failure. Blatantly protecting lying Obama Administration.

[Sue]

How Joe? The FBI cant go in.

[PD]

Joe is waving the Bill Clinton index finger.

[henry]

We got Bin Laden, Ryan trying not to laugh.

[Thomas Collins]

Good job by Biden at addressing the question summarily andthen getting in unrelated talking points.

[Eric in Boise]

Ryan calmly taking notes. Nice.

[Another Bob]

I'm watching Steelers/Titans, and am relying on you guys. (And my wife upstairs, who will whoop and holler if something good happens.)

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Obama ended Iraq, Romney said it was a "tragic mistake", Romney said he shouldn't set a date in Afghanistan. On his first day in office he said he would get OBL. Romney didn't get it. We are tough with the terrorists. (Tee hee)

Obama has a steady hand and clear vision, ROmney has neither.

Ryan: It took the president 2 weeks to say it was a terrorist attack. If we are hit by terrorists we will call it.

We have a security detail on our amb in Paris but not libya?

Biden failed to get a SOF agreement.

We are projecting weakness - we are watching the unraveling of the Obama foreign policy.

[Clarice]

some intel failure with the Ambassador begging for security.

[not_bubarooni]

Ryan going straight for the jugular.

Will Joe call him a liar?

[Eric in Boise]

Hitting the administration right out of the bat - HARD - on Benghazi. Wonderful.

[Thomas Collins]

Shit eaten grin by Biden as Ryan goes over the unravelling of Obama's foreign policy.

[Some Guy]

Sometimes, big white teeth aren't the answer.

[Sue]

Joe's facial expressions will look great next to Obamas.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Martha chastises Ryan, Biden laughs and giggles. Ryan gives a great answer. Biden is still laughing and now interrupts.

Biden: That's a bunch of malarky. Nothing is correct.

[not_bubarooni]

Oh, he only called him 'inaccurate'.

No fireworks yet...

[henry]

Joe jumps in to call Ryan a liar.

[Eric in Boise]

"Bunch of malarkey"

Extra butter, please.

[Thomas Collins]

Biden blames the intelligence community. Biden claims the Administration wasn't told more security was needed. A blatant falsehood.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Biden lies and praises Obama and says what a great job they are doing on iran. He accuses Ryan of betting against America.

What were you first told about the attack Biden?

We were told it was protesters and then the intelligence community changed their mind.]

We did not know they wanted more security there. (Shouldn't you have?)

And that horrid Romney had a press conference.

Should the US apologize for urinating on corpses.

We shouldn't apologize for our values.

[sbwaters]

Drink on malarky?

[squaredance]

It is like a weird, inverted abbot and Costello movie/

[Eric in Boise]

Biden's taking notes, too. Bet they're in all caps.

Or maybe pictures.

[Sue]

Good job Raddatz. Interrupt Ryan more often.

[Jim Eagle]

Joe smiling through all this serious shite is a big faux pas. Will not sit well with concerned indies who don't appreciate a condescending prick like Joe.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Radditz interrupts Ryan to "move to Iran".

Ryan: We cannot allow Iran to get a weapon. When Obama was elected they had enough fissile material for 1 weapon and now they have 5. I've been fighting for sanctions since 2009 and the admin has fought every step of the way. Iran is brazen.

So far Ryan is killing it, do you guys agree?

[Frau Kaugummi]

Nothing worse than a smiling, lying
snake. Biden sneers, shakes his head and chuckles while Ryan speaks and calls everything "baloney."

"This is the guy (preezy) who has repaired our alliances around the world."

"We didn't know more security (in Benghazi) was needed."

[Sara]

Malarkey was one of my Dad's favorite charges when I was trying to get out of admitting I did something he didn't think I should have done. "Don't try to fool me with a bunch of malarkey." I must have heard that dozens of times. LOL.

[Thomas Collins]

Biden is the king of the shit eaten grin.

[Dave (in MA)]

Apparently terrorism is funny.
Who knew?

[not_bubarooni]

All Joe does is laugh and smirk...

[Some Guy]

Biden's taking notes, too. Bet they're in all caps.

Stick figures and hearts & arrows.

[sbwaters]

Biden is trying to adopt the smiling comfort Romney had in the first debate. Biden hasn't the skill. He falsely smirks.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Biden laughs and mocks the republicans. Says Russians would never do business with the republicans.

B-Do you want to go to war?

R-We want to prevent war.

B-I know classified intel and we are all set.

[PD]

Tutorial on uranium enrichment from Biden. I feel privileged to be instructed.

[Thomas Collins]

Biden smirks when Ryan points out that Obama went on a talk show instead of meeting Bibi.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Can you solve this in 2 months Ryan?

Biden laughs and interrupts.

[Threadkiller]

"Credible" is my drinking cue

[Another Bob]

I'm getting the impression from reading comments here and elsewhere that Ryan hasn't really laid a glove on SloJo yet?

[Eric in Boise]

I've never seen someone's grin wrap all the wat around their head and meet at the base of the skull - until now.

[sbwaters]

Martha: Can you solve this in two months?

What a disingenuous question.

Biden: I know Bibi. Bibi is my friend. ...

[Threadkiller]

You are no bibi

[PD]

Raddatz to Biden: "What does that mean, 'A bunch of stuff'?"

[centralcal]

Someone let Raddatz know this is NOT about her!

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

To me, if you are serious, Biden looks like a fool, and acts worse.

[Thomas Collins]

Biden is making a mistake by defending Obama not meeting Bibi. That just reminds people about the snub.

Ryan and Biden agree that the Irish throw around the malarkey.

[NJ Jan]

This is 2 against one -- quel surprise! Raddatz let's Biden interrupt Ryan. This is awful.

[sbwaters]

Biden: It's all loose talk. Loose talk. [Listen to my loose talk instead.]

[PD]

Biden's strategy seems to be to laugh at Ryan as often as possible with his "Can you believe he *really* thinks that?" smirk.

[Jim Eagle]

Joe can't shut up. I think this is Ryan's rope-a-dope. The plan is to let Joe talk and smile and be Joe. Good strategy.

[Threadkiller]

I am so glad I didn't pick "bibi" to drink to. I would be out by now.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

"Facts Matter Martha" (says Biden)

Gates undermines our credibility - great point.

Biden laughs, Biden makes faces, biden giggles, Biden shakes his head. Biden interrupts.

What is worse, a nuclear armed Iran or war with Iran,

Ryan - a nuclear armed Iran

Biden: War should be the last resort. Romney agrees or has he changed his mind.

This president doesn't bluff. (OMG)

[daddy]

Just turned in. "This is a bunch of stuff" sez Biden.

"What does that mean?" asks the Host.

"It's Irish", says Ryan.

Ryan: They are 4 year closer to a nuclear weapon.

Biden: They are not closer to a nuclear weapon. Fact's matter.

My quick observation; Exactly as expected, Biden is trying to belittle and diminish Ryan by smirks and interruptions and exclamations, both fascial and verbal. Cannot tell yet if he is or will be successful since I just tuned in.

[Frau Kaugummi]

Let Joe be Joe: Biden ("incredible") looks like an idiot clown.

"We can deal a serious blow to the Iranians. We and Israel together...Both the Israelis and we know when the Iranians will blah-blah-blah."

"We will *not* allow the Iranians to have a weapon."

Biden is beside himself with mirth. He is not serious and is disrespectful in word and demeanor. Pfui!

Gov. Romney changes his mind so often. This president does not bluff!

[sbwaters]

Biden: This president doesn't bluff.

Great line to end on. It rings hollow.

[Sue]

This treating Ryan like a kid is not going to go over well.

[Thomas Collins]

Slanted start by Raddatz, but overall she is doing OK. Just asked about unemployment.

[Thomas Collins]

Ah. There isthe 47 percent card.

[PD]

Biden's taking the gloves off now.

[henry]

Unemployment, blame Bush... 47%... blah blah blah

[sbwaters]

Biden: Let's take a look at where we were when we took office [because I certainly don't want to look at what is the situation now.]

Biden: 47%. 47%. 47%. Clichés.

[windansea]

Joe smiling through all this serious shite is a big faux pas. Will not sit well with concerned indies who don't appreciate a condescending prick like Joe.

Posted by: Jack is Back | October 11, 2012 at 09:14 PM

exactly, Biden looks like a fool laughing at murder of americans

[Threadkiller]

Taxes = Jobs.

[sbwaters]

Biden didn't smile when Ryan said this is not the recovery people were looking for.

[Threadkiller]

Mitt sob stories again.

[matt]

Coming home in the car my impression was that Biden was a horse's ass as well as the moderator.

[Bela1]

Biden is a blithering jackass. I haven't liked him since the Clarence Thomas hearings years ago. I'd like to wipe that stupid smirk off his face. Go Ryan.

[MarkO]

Condescending prick. Unserious.

[Thomas Collins]

Ryan telling a personal story about Romney helping out a family in trouble.

[Patriot4Freedom]

Laughing like a clown while Ryan expresses the terrible effects of unemployment - doesn't seem likely to help Biden's cause, imho.

[sbwaters]

Ryan - Romney gave more than the two of us.

Smart not to single out Biden.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Economy: How long will it take to get unemployment to 6%?

Biden - I dunno because it's Bush's fault. Starts on class warfare. Brings on 47%. Filibusters, lies, lies and lies.

Ryan: We are going in the wrong direction - Biden laughs. We are headed in the wrong direction. 23m americans need work. We need real reforms for real -

Ryan: As the VP knows words don't always come out of your mouth right.

Biden - I always mean it.

Biden starts talking about his dead wife.

[Tollhouse]

Doesn't help that the camera is really getting alot of shots of Biden's wattle.

Great zinger by Ryan though.

[Threadkiller]

Well said TC. "Credible" has me hammered already. I would not have called it a sob story.

[sbwaters]

Biden: I know he had no commitment to the auto industry.

No. Save it in a way that works.

[Jim Eagle]

I cannot believe Biden is bringing up the auto accident that killed his wife. We all know the detail about that. I wonder if the MFM will bring it up again. I doubt it.

This guy is pure evil.