Incoming Times CEO Offers Non-Denial Denial On Savile Scandal

Mark Thompson, former head of the BBC, is slated to become CEO of the NY Times on Nov. 12. However, Mr. Thompson has become embroiled in a monumental pedophilia scandal at the BBC, and questions have been raised, in Parliament and elsewhere, about what he managed to not know and how he managed to not know it.

Mr. Thompson has defended himself with two classic non-denial denials:

Mr. Thompson’s version of his role has shifted somewhat over the past 10 days.

In a statement released on Oct. 13, Mr. Thompson issued a blanket denial of any knowledge of the squelched BBC report. “I was not notified or briefed about the ‘Newsnight’ investigation,” he said, adding that “during my time as director general of the BBC, I never heard any allegations or received any complaints about Jimmy Savile.”

But on Tuesday, in a letter in response to Mr. Wilson, the Parliament member, Mr. Thompson appeared to adjust his answer slightly, saying, “I was never formally notified about the ‘Newsnight’ investigation and was not briefed about the allegations they were examining and to what extent, if at all, those allegations related to Savile’s work at the BBC.”

So as of Oct 13, Mr. Thompson's claim is that during his time as head of the BBC (i.e., 2004 to 2012) he never heard any allegations about Jimmy Savile.

Please - per his bio, he started at the BBC in 1979! Was his memory wiped clean when he took the corner office in 2004, or is he willing to deny that he never heard relevant rumors or innuendo from 1979 forward? Let's note that Mr. Savile was questioned in a 2000 documentary about pedophila rumors, so the notion was surely circulating.

And his latest denial is that he was never "formally" briefed. Is it his official view that gossip, back-channel contacts and friendly "heads-up" warnings about Mr. Savile wouldn't be relevant, if he had in fact received some? Is Mr. Thompson prepared to assert that he never, from 1979 forward, had any indication at all that the BBC was harboring a monstrous pedophile?

Times chairman and publisher Arther Sulzberger has chimed in with support for Mr. Thompson. However, questions have been raised which will not be answered before November 12, so sometime soon (All eyes will be elsewhere on election night!) the Times will announce a delay in this transition.

And as they wait the Times board will ponder the obvious - do they really need a See-No-Evil CEO running their news organization? Either Mr. Thompson is lying and he did have concerns about Mr. Savile, or he has the corporate antenna and finger-on-the-pulse skills of a garden gnome.

Comments

[Melinda Romanoff]

I think this is a perfect match, unlike Capt. Smith on the Titanic.

I just hope the search for the wreckage doesn't require another Ballard effort.

[Danube of Thought]

Unexpected:

The New York Times Co reported worse-than-expected results on Thursday as advertisers cut spending on both print and digital outlets, sending shares down 12 percent.

[Clarice]

Give him the job..it'll be like riding the bomb down in Dr Strangelove.

[Threadkiller]

It was spontaneous pedophilia brought on by an unknown video.

[NK]

DoT-- Times reports 'worse than expected' revenues? UNpossible! Seriously, how can the NYT have a bad qtr in the middle of a POTUS election? DOOM!

[NK]

TK@12:04-- BRILLIANT!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Harry Reid told me that unnamed sources who he considers very trustworthy told him that Mr. Thompson participated with Mr. Saville.

[Dave (in MA)]

Ignatz,
It looks like you're working for the Daily Caller now.

http://dailycaller.com/

[Dublindave]

Looking at Jimmy Saville's photo it's impossible to not conclude he was a child rapist.

Even the show's title was an expression of intent.

Still, not sure why the modern Rape-publican party would have a problem with Savilles actions.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I denied that scurrilous rumor in the other thread Dave. :)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Still, not sure why the modern Rape-publican party would have a problem with Savilles actions.

Posted by: Dublindave | October 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM--

Apparently the NHS didn't have an effective treatment for the psycho sexual proclivities and projections of either Mr. Saville or poor WeeDavey.

[NK]

DD!! as we said back in the schoolyard-- "takes one to know one"

[Danube of Thought]

Jimmy didn't do anything Bill Clinton didn't do.

[centralcal]

I rather resent the slurs about the Garden Gnome. GG was my favorite candidate during the primaries.

[Dave (in MA)]

Savile was in the entertainment industry, so it was probably not a big deal according to the English equivalent of Whoopie G,, whoever that might be.

[daddy]

Glad to see this Jimmy Saville BBC brouhaha getting some ink over there. Over here it is the undisputed topic of the day. It comes across as almost a BBC equivalent of the Penn State pedophilia scandal, with Saville playing the Coach Sandusky(?) roll, and the BBC brass looking the other way like Joe Paterno for 40 years.

Hopefully though this Thompson guy can count on Brit TV personalities, Piers Morgan and Richard Quest, to vouch for his character and integrity. Ha!

My impression is that over here it is a way for folks, long furious with the BBC for all sorts of assorted reasons, to come in and get their pound of flesh from the BeeB.

[Porchlight]

Hit and run makes the big time at Geraghty's place:

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/331598/estimate-obama-leads-nc-early-vote-12-percent

[Dublindave]

DD!! as we said back in the schoolyard-- "takes one to know one"

Is this the right thread to talk about the time you spend in schoolyards,NK?

Look, if Saville raped any of these girls, then by modern Republican orthodoxy it was probably God's will.

[Danube of Thought]

Raz:

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Virginia Voters finds Romney with 50% support to President Obama’s 48%. Only one percent (1%) remains undecided.

[Danube of Thought]

Gallup daily LV horserace: Romney 50, Obama 47.

[daddy]

Yay Hit. Nice job young man! Don't get cockney:)

[Danube of Thought]

Among non-media polls in the RCP Average, it's Romney 49.25, Obama 46.5.

Incumbent at 46.5%, twelve days out. Where I come from they say "put the chairs in the wagon, momma, school's out!"

[Melinda Romanoff]

Ted Turner soiling himself again.

Not. Going. To. Link.

[narciso]

So, those who are reading 'Back to Blood' there are a couple of flags, I've mentioned one, the reporter who 'Spitzered' himself, another is Fidel's Nina Burleigh, Ana Maria Bardach, who has a say jaundiced view, of the
community.

[Stephanie]

Saw that Mel. Disgusting.

There's a great post up at PW (actually Serr8 posted it). Worth a read.

LUN

[NK]

DD -- when I was in the schoolyard, I was told never to approach vans driven by men such as yerself.

[GMAX]

Modern Democrat orthodoxy, its probably not rape rape. Or maybe its not sexual relations. Seems to me that the predator was just honored with a speaking spot at the DNC convention.

[NK]

Insty reminds us that today is Feast of St Crispin's Day. The annivertsary of the day that King HenryV , a few nobles, and a bunch of English yeoman farmers, free men-- slaughtered the cream of French Royals, Nobility and Knights in the mud of Agincourt. Free men will win out over would be tyrants when free men stand on their two feet and fight.
All here at JOM are my brothers and sisters today, and conservatives at home in their beds will curse they day they were not with Narciso, Ig, DoT, clarice, sara, sue, maryrose, young TommyM and all the rest, when freedom was saved from Obamaism on this St Crispins's Day (+12)!! (apologies to Willie S.)

[James D.]

It sounds like Thompson is a perfect fit for the NYT. Marinated in hateful leftist viewpoints over 40 years at the BBC, eyes resolutely closed to the vile, criminal goings-on around him despite apparently years of talk about it, and utterly dishonest.

I hope they go broke; other than the daily crossword puzzle, absolutely nothing of value would be lost.

[NK]

PS: DoT-- were there any family at Agincourt? it was kind of a naval battle with all the rain.

[Melinda Romanoff]

ESPN reporting David Stern to retire in 2014.

[narciso]

However, there are aspects that ring true, like the reaction to a certain police incident, which prefigured the whole Zimmerman
controversy.

[Dublindave]

"DD -- when I was in the schoolyard, I was told never to approach vans driven by men such as yerself."

Even for a box of Jujyfruits?

[NJ Jan]

UN Human Rights Council. Strikes again this time against businesses doing business with Israel. Susan Rice care to defend our rejoining this counsel to Jewish voters or to employees of these companies?

http://freebeacon.com/u-n-human-rights-council-calls-for-boycott-of-u-s-companies/

[NK]

DD-- especially when perverts such s yerself offered candy.

[narciso]

Bowden has less to commend him, though, although there are some tidbits like the fact
that Morell, Bush's CIA briefer, was the first
to mention Iraq or Iran, as responsible, and that the vaunted PDB, wasn't all that. The fact that he tries to impart such significance
to the backstory of Donilon, Rhodes, et al,
doesn't add to the story.

[laff trac]

"Is this the right thread to talk about the time you spend in schoolyards"

deadbeatdave = comedy gold!!!

[Ranger]

Nate Silver Update:

Obama Chance of Winning:

71.0%
+5.3 since Oct. 17

Title of today's post:

Oct. 24: In Polls, Romney’s Momentum Seems to Have Stopped

"Remain Calm... All Is Well!"

[NK]

actually DD does have a sense of humor....
he'll need it on St Crispin's Day +12.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

For NK and all freedom loving men and women around the world:

What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

[NK]

JiB-- ...It is good...it is good.

[Ann]

You guys have to listen to this:
http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsonshow/charles-woods-father-of-former?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsonshow/charles-woods-father-of-former">http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsonshow/charles-woods-father-of-former">http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsonshow/charles-woods-father-of-former?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsonshow/charles-woods-father-of-former

It is the Father of Former Navy SEAL killed in Benghazi: HILLARY CLINTON promised 2 have MAKER OF VIDEO ARRESTED. Also describes Obama's fishy handshake and insincere condolence.

[Danube of Thought on Ipad]

To this day I can't read that speech aloud without choking up.

No one there representing the family that I know of, NK. Nor at the Gulf of Sydra.

[Ann]

Sorry, I am so mad. The link still works.

[narciso]

There was a similar instance, with the father of either Shughart or Gordon, those who fought
bravely in Mogadishu, it's a wonder she would
think telling a father, such a thing, would be a good thing, Ann.

[Danube of Thought on Ipad]

Those interested would enjoy David Cornwell's "Agincourt" that came out a few years ago. You'll learn a lot about those longbows, and about how you fight men clad in armor.

[henry]

Sounds like Rubio did well in Waukesha. The victory center capacity is ~500, so take the Journal Sentinal crowd estimate as a lowball.

[Danube of Thought on Ipad]

And of course Horatio Nelson called his captains a band of brothers.

Started Back to Blood last night, Narc. I read really slowly, so don't give anything away.

[Jim Ryan]

Obama's whistle lisp says, "Not worth listening to."

[pagar]

"other than the daily crossword puzzle,"

Surely someone could figure out how to get the crossword puzzle out to those who want it without all the rest of the leftist garbage.

[narciso]

I've never seen it performed on stage, but I first head of it, through a clip from Branagh's take,

[centralcal]

Yes, Ann - the link worked just fine. Angry and sad is pretty much what I think about all of this. Sad for those who died and their families. Angry as hell at what Obama, Clinton and cohort are getting away with. Angry as hell at the media who is ignoring this scandal (except for Fox News).

Every Ambassador in every danger zone in the ME should all resign in protest (and actual fear that they could be next).

[NK]

DoT- I hope you accept the relations at Agincourt wisecrack is all in good fun. How to fight armoured infantry and horsemen?...OK... first arrange a torrential rainstorm that turns the field of battle into a marsh/pond so that the armoured knights can't move and can be drowned when knocked to the ground. That worked for Harry and the lads.

[Danube of Thought on Ipad]

Extreme good fun, NK. Yes, the rain and mud played a vital role, and also the terrain, which sueezed the Frenchmen in on one another so that movement became very restricted. And once you get them to the ground, your best bet is a stiletto through the eyehole.

[MAM]

More worry - sorry:( I just read that Rasmussen noted today that the movment is all toward Romney - except in Ohio. How can that be? How does every state in the union move more red including CT, CA, MA, NY, NJ - but Ohio doesn't. I'll just crawl in a hole if we lose this election because of Ohio.

[narciso]

They keep him, in that perfect state of ignorance;

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wh-we-decline-comment-when-obama-learned-e-mails-met-nsc-benghazi

[NK]

The terrain made English victory at Agincourt a certainty because it nullified the French Horse and as you say, it squeezed the numerically superior French force into a confined area, and made them easy prey for the yeoman Longbow archers. The flood made the battle a one-sided slaughter. I believe the disaster at Agincourt spooked the French (until Napolean) into thinking God alway sided with the English.

[Janet]

Insty reminds us that today is Feast of St Crispin's Day.

Thank you for passing on the reminder, NK.

[Rob Crawford]

I just read that Rasmussen noted today that the movment is all toward Romney - except in Ohio. How can that be?

Because the press is desperate to keep Obama's hopes alive.

Polls are lies.

[Ann]

Narciso and CC:
You have to be one cold SOB to hug the father and lie to him. She didn't have to say anything. I want hearings, NOW.

[centralcal]

Ann: Has the father's story circulated much yet (beyond, obviously the radio show you linked)? I think this information should spark some furor with the Republican congress people and calls for hearings.

[Danube of Thought on Ipad]

"Because the press is desperate to keep Obama's hopes alive."

Rasmussen is not affiliated with any media organization. He is (or has been) a Republican consultant.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I think this information should spark some furor with the Republican congress people and calls for hearings.

Posted by: centralcal | October 25, 2012 at 02:48 PM--

cc,
I'm guessing you mean Hillary's promise to have the video dude arrested, cause I'm pretty sure you don't need a congressional hearing to establish that Barry is a limp wristed cold fish who can't look anyone in the eye while lying to them.

[NK]

Radio show link: friday the 14th -- that was the Day, at Andrews AFB, that JEF and Hill went all in on the BS 'video' story. Prior to that on 9/12 in the Rose Garden and on 60 Mins, Obama hedged about the cause of the attack. That changed by the 14th and the video story BS was spooned out by Bam until DOS people had to testify at Issa's committee. It's absolutely clear now.

[Rick Ballard]

MAM,

I look at Ohio, tucked in between Indiana and the Alabama side of Pennsylvania, right above Kentucky and wonder at the "no movement" frozen polls as well.

My suspicion is that Ohio is Tinkerbelle. If the pollsters don't clap, the BOzo Campaign dies and the polling shops start planning for a very lean Christmas.

[Janet]

Wow, Ann. Thanks for the link.
I don't have words anymore....

[maryrose]

Ann: So glad to see you on this blog. I share your disgust and outrage at Hillary's actions. She and Obama are both a nasty piece of work and hopefully will be cashiered in 12 days time.

[MAM]

Rick - I hope that you're right. Certainly, the early voting is making pollsters's jobs much more difficult this year. That Ohio professor, Schweikart, seems to think that R/R is doing better in early voting in 1012 as compared to 2008, particularly in bellweather counties, but I'm just not confident about Ohio. I typically trust Ras and don't think he is being untruthful. Oh, I just want this over. I am blogging at work which I never do but I have a hard time keeping away from JOM and all of the up-to-date info.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Branagh's Agincourt speech as Henry V from the movie.

What a great movie that was. And Branagh has to be the greatest Shakespearian actor ever.

[marlene]

Does anyone know where Romney will be the night of the election? Boston? If so,I wonder if he will end his campaign in NH? As mentioned,O will be in NH on Saturday. Jill Biden will be there Friday,Joe Biden on Monday and MO on Tuesday.So they're not giving up on NH. The forecasted super duper hybrid hurricane nor'easter might change those plans.

[bio mom]

Ras himself has the race in Ohio tied, just released it yesterday. So maybe he is speaking about the overall Ohio polls which include a lot of suspicious +D samples in them.

[maryrose]

RB:
You are absolutely correct about Ohio. The meme of its being a firewall must be maintained or the whole house of cards collapses.
Obama is the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz... Pay no attention to what your seeing eyes and hearing ears tell you.
On such a beautiful day I took a walk down by Lake Erie in what we call the well-to-do section of Rocky River. Homes go for 350,000 to 1 million dollars. All Romney all the time in terms of the signs I saw and many Josh Mandel. I have yet to see any Sherrod Brown signs. A man I met from South Euclid told me his Romney sign was stolen.His school district hasn't passed a levy in ages. Failing schools thanks to Bammy.

[James D.]

Surely someone could figure out how to get the crossword puzzle out to those who want it without all the rest of the leftist garbage.

I get it on my iPad, so I don't have to see the leftist garbage exactly as you say. But if the paper went under, I guess the puzzle would as well.

I can find puzzles somewhere else, but if the NYT did go under, what would all the progs and hipsters who depend on it to be told what to think, what to like and whom to hate do? Would they aimlessly wander the streets with glazed expressions like the androids on Harry Mudd's planet after Kirk shorted out their logic circuits?

[Captain Hate]

This election season has been just as instructive as 2010 was on whom you can trust.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

James D.

You can get the Sunday Slimes puzzle on Saturday if you buy the International Herald Tribune. Whenever I would fly to the US over the weekend from London I would spend the flight working out the puzzle in pencil and then on Sunday get the Slimes and sit in front of friends or at a bar and do it again but in super-warp speed using a pen. The expressions on people's faces was priceless.

[Porchlight]

My suspicion is that Ohio is Tinkerbelle. If the pollsters don't clap, the BOzo Campaign dies and the polling shops start planning for a very lean Christmas.

Rick has it. OH is the media and pollster ballgame, not just the Team Obama ballgame. Once it becomes clear that Romney will take it, Intrade will go Romney and that's all she wrote. No more horserace coverage. No further polling necessary. Just a new President on the way.

[Porchlight]

Thank you maryrose, that's very heartening.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

BTW, surf's up and the cloud cover is huge - dark and low. Sandy is huffing and puffing but I don't think we will get much here but NYC and the northeast are in for a rude awakening again. Probably by either Tuesday or Wednesday.

[GMAX]

How does waxed cardboard rate on the flammability scale? It seems to me the melting wax creates a candle?

OHIO is ahead of the nation in favorability for Republicans for as far back as I can remember. Even in 2008 it was so.

So if every national tracking poll with large samples says RR is up, then so is Ohio.

Two things I have seen mentioned that are going on which make sense, to me. First off some of the folks responding to the pollsters are lying, saying they have voted such that about 23% is coming back that way when the numbers of actual early voting is but 15% and a lot of Republicans in Ohio stayed home in 2008, and thus they may not make it past the likely voter screen this year, despite vowing to walk barefoot over broken glass to vote out Zero.

Ohio is usually close. Its always equal to or more Republican than the nation as a whole. And no one is modeling the Republican blowout that is happening in 2012.

[Clarice]

I took to buying books of the NYT' crossword puzzles..Unfortunately they are old and most of the products, celebs, etc referenced no longer exist.

[Porchlight]

Ann, I hope that father's story is spread far and wide. Thanks for posting it.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

The CW on Ahia is that Romney can win the Indies by 15% he is the winner. Saw that from Pethakoukis (?) on twitter. What say CH and maryrose - is that in his wheelhouse?

[Porchlight]

Romney just took the lead in Virginia RCP average for I believe the first time:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/va/virginia_romney_vs_obama-1774.html

Obama stuck at....47.

[PD]

More tolerance by the left.

Wisconsin GOP campaign worker hospitalized after apparent gay-bashing assault

[Captain Hate]

I've said all along that Romney is winning Ohio and probably by a large margin.

Behold the tolerant left: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/25/wisconsin-gop-campaign-worker-hospitalized-after-apparent-gay-bashing-assault/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--And Branagh has to be the greatest Shakespearian actor ever.

Posted by: Jack is Back | October 25, 2012 at 03:10 PM--

Better than Jack Benny dubbed into Spanish?

[Captain Hate]

Missed it by nanoseconds

[Sue]

Don't. Mess. With. Texas.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott further fueled the controversy on Tuesday when he sent a letter to the OSCE warning the organization that its representatives “are not authorized by Texas law to enter a polling place” and that it “may be a criminal offense for OSCE’s representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place’s entrance.”

[NK]

From CaptH's lips to God'd ears.

BTW-- the horserace in 2008 was over by the third week in October, and the Legacy Media reported that. Until Ohio is counted and 18 EVs go to RR, I will not be comfortable.

[Sue]

NK,

The legacy media's candidate was winning. If Obama was winning now they would report it.

[Rob Crawford]

That's the second assault in WI this week, isn't it?

[Sue]

Look away if the Magnificent Bastard's tweet offends you...

Karl Rove ‏@KarlRove

This race will be close, depending on a few states. Good news for Romney is the ones he needs are breaking his way.

[maryrose]

JIB:
I believe Romney can capture 15% of the Independents because of his debate performances and his positive ads. The picture on the front of the Des Moines, Iowa Register says it all: Romney is smiling-Obama is pouting. People vote for the person smiling with a true new vision for America. Mitt Romney is that person.

[Chubby]

((Obama stuck at....47.))

the 47% that Romney said won't vote for him no matter what. So he has doubtless planned his victory strategy accordingly

[peter]

I used to love to do the NYTimes crossword puzzle. I remember doing one on a plane as I left for a trip to Europe. I did the whole puzzle, except there was one box I could not figure out. Usually when there was a word I did not know, I could reason by using the crossing words what letters to fill in, but there was one box that I could not decide. I had it down to one of two different consonants, and stared at it for hours ( since it was a flight and I had nothing else to do. ) Ironically, I never found out the answer since this was before the days of internet, and I couldn't find the Slimes in Europe.

[henry]

Rob, yes that's the second assault to be reported so far this week. The progs are very unhappy around here, as they will be everywhere in a couple weeks.

[NK]

The Legacy media won't report Romney winning Ohio is just too pat an answer for me, what can I say, I need data. Rove does sound like an honest assessment, and consistent with the way both candidates are acting.

[Captain Hate]

Rove has been on his best behavior in this election; other than that stupid whiteboard. His American Crossroads ads have been superb.

[maryrose]

NK:
I am afraid we may be in for a long night because Cuyahoga County is notoriously slow in getting the ballots collected and counted. If it looks like Romney is winning, they WILL NOT call it because then voters out west would stop voting for Obama. You are probably looking at 2 or 3 in the morning . We will be having an election night party at my sister's house and we plan to bring our jammies.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I would prefer to see Barry receive 7% of the vote, but the next best thing would have to be precisely 47%.