Syria - Prepping For The Future Failure File

David Sanger warns us that the current US approach to Syria has resulted in the arming of militant extremists currently oppposing Assad but likely to oppose the US:

WASHINGTON — Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats.

That conclusion, of which President Obama and other senior officials are aware from classified assessments of the Syrian conflict that has now claimed more than 25,000 lives, casts into doubt whether the White House’s strategy of minimal and indirect intervention in the Syrian conflict is accomplishing its intended purpose of helping a democratic-minded opposition topple an oppressive government, or is instead sowing the seeds of future insurgencies hostile to the United States.

“The opposition groups that are receiving the most of the lethal aid are exactly the ones we don’t want to have it,” said one American official familiar with the outlines of those findings, commenting on an operation that in American eyes has increasingly gone awry.

Bleak news for Times readers. But Mr. Sanger rallies his base with the reassurance that Mitt Romney would probably be similarly inept:

The assessment of the arms flows comes at a crucial time for Mr. Obama, in the closing weeks of the election campaign with two debates looming that will focus on his foreign policy record. But it also calls into question the Syria strategy laid out by Mitt Romney, his Republican challenger.

In a speech at the Virginia Military Institute last Monday, Mr. Romney said he would ensure that rebel groups “who share our values” would “obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.” That suggests he would approve the transfer of weapons like antiaircraft and antitank systems that are much more potent than any the United States has been willing to put into rebel hands so far, precisely because American officials cannot be certain who will ultimately be using them.

But Mr. Romney stopped short of saying that he would have the United States provide those arms directly, and his aides said he would instead rely on Arab allies to do it. That would leave him, like Mr. Obama, with little direct control over the distribution of the arms.

In other words, since Romey has not been specific about what he would do differently, we can assume he would continue on the same poor course as Obama. Got it.

I am a little surprised that Mr. Sanger made no mention of another obvious dividing line - Syria is aligned with Hezbollah and Iran on the Shi'ite side, whereas Quatar and Saudi Arabia, as Sunni states, are surely guiding their arms to Sunni militants in Syria. Since Al Qaeda is the prime Sunni terrorist group, well, the slippage is predictable.

COMPOUNDING MY SURPRISE: The Sanger piece works as a front-page factcheck debunking a Biden debate claim. Well, except that Sanger never mentions Biden or the debate.

Comments

[matt]

The problem always is who wants to pick up a gun and risk one's life. If you have a higher IQ and are better educated you have a much clearer idea that you can die very quickly than someone whose head is filled with mush. the key is who is in control of the mushheads in war and afterwards.

[maryrose]

Syria should have been the focus instead of Libya. Obama leading from behind and following France like a puppy dog was afraid deaths in Libya would exceed 5000. In Syria it is more like 22000. Once again Pottery Barn rule applies in Libya. You broke it you buy it and stop pinning the blame on others. Holder owns F&F and Obama owns Libya because he did it without the approval of Congress.

[matt]

the alignment of Sunni vs Shia is shaping up in a scary manner. This could be their Super Bowl.

The Alawites are also considered apostates by the rest of Islam, but this really pits the two largest sects against one another.

Maybe they can all send jihadis against each other. If I was Israeli or U.S. intelligence I would be placing ads in the Cairo Times, Benghazi Bugle, and Teheran Inquirer for as many martyrs as possible.

[bgates]

If you have a higher IQ and are better educated you have a much clearer idea that you can die very quickly than someone whose head is filled with mush.

Halp us Jon Carry We R Stukc in Irak.

[Tonto]

OT, but check out sample number three.

[boatbuilder]

"...that conclusion, of which President Obama and other senior officials are aware from clasified reports..."

You might want to get confirmation on that. Mr. Sanger. Obama is only aware of things which could make him look good. Otherwise somebody else is eating shit for this.

[NK]

Matt- I know I am repeating myself, but what will th Mullah do? RIGHT NOW-- they can drop some 'dirty' warhead tipped missles on Sunnis in Syria, Iraq, Parts of KSA and Turkey (no fission explosion, but TNT spreading radioactive material.) Will they do that to save the Allawite/Shia Assad? Not bloody likely IMO, but THEY COULD-- and that's the problem with not going after the Mullahs in 2009 when the Green revolution went to the streets. We are coming to a show down, do the Mullahs believe it's time to call on the 12th Imam? Scary times.

[Jane - Mock the media]

I'm a little surprised there hasn't been another drip re: Benghazi today.

[daddy]

Re: Syria.

Was just reading a story over at the WaPo and they had this Poll up:

"Is Syria's President Obama's greatest failure?
Yes - 10%
No - 90%
Total Votes: 542
Percentages may not add up to 100% due to rounding
This is a non-scientific user poll. Results are not statistically valid and cannot be assumed to reflect the views of Washington Post users as a group or the general population."

Apparently 90% of WaPo readers think Obama's got bigger Failures than Syria to worry about.

[NK]

Jane-- no more Benghazi in the Lamestream Media until after the election. they know it hurts Bam AND HILLARY-- so they'll embargo the story, as they did with F&F.

[Threadkiller]

"Richard Spencer, Middle East Correspondent

Mon 15 Oct 2012

US troops are operating in Jordan near the Syrian border in the biggest fixed deployment of American force in the region since the end of operations in Libya last year, officials have confirmed.

The 150 troops are intended in the first instance to help Jordan, a key but fragile US ally, deal with the influx of refugees from the fighting across the northern border. They are also preparing for any action that might be needed to secure Syria's chemical weapons in the event of the Assad regime losing control of them.

But officials also told The New York Times that the possibility of a buffer zone in southern Syria, enforced by Jordanian troops with American logistical support, had also been discussed. Jordan as well as its neighbours is deeply concerned at the threat of the Syrian war spilling over its borders.

The American troops have been stationed at a Jordanian military base north of Amman about 35 miles from the border since the end of a major joint exercise called Operation Eager Lion. There have been reports before that troops pulled out of Iraq stayed in neighbouring Jordan as a buffer force, but this is the first confirmation of a deployment directly attributed to the Arab Spring."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9598851/US-troops-operating-in-Jordan-near-Syria-border.html

What?

[NK]

OT-- the Flemish and Wallons are at it again--
tell me again why the Euro and EU 'One Europe Project' are inevitable? http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/70477188-1636-11e2-b6f1-00144feabdc0.html#axzz29NSsPH00

[NK]

TK-- no surprise about the Jordan deployment. Hey wait!!, maybe pulling out of a SOFA maintaining troops in Iraq wasn't a good idea afterall. Who knew!

[NK]

Speaking of "Failure" Weekly Standard has some unkind works for Mayor Rahm: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/city-works_654551.html

[daddy]

Quick synopsis of Megyn Kelly's Benghazi cover-up segment that just transpired. Not exactly verbatim but close.

Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen on Megyn's Show discussing the Benghazi meltdown lie from the White House.

Schoen: "They are using the Sergeant Schultz Defense "I know nothing" in order to just get thru the next 3 weeks."

Caddell: "They are throwing everyone under the Bus. JFK took responsibility for the Bay of Pigs. Carter took responsibility for his screwups. Obama is passing responsibility on to everyone else."

Schoen: "Susan Rice was doing what she was specifically told to do."

Megyn: But The State Dept, since she is State, or from the White House?"

All back and forth: "They need to find that out by asking specifically who was in that room telling her what to go out and say. Biden. Obama, Plouffe, Rice. They need to be asked that and they are not being asked that."

Caddell: "Romney if smart will say, "Why wasn't the Prez getting to the bottom of this instead of getting on a plane going to Vegas."

Schoen: That bothered me."

Me: Nice to see Megyn and the boys entirely on top of this thing.

Schoen: The White House is now going to the "We are studying this" delay mode. They simply want to delay this until after the Election by saying our investigation is ongoing and we'll get to the bottom of it."

Caddell: "If Romney is so stupid to let this opportunity pass..."

Megyn: "Is Hillary under the bus?"

Schoen: "She is doing the best she can to distance herself from something that has the potential to bring down the President. "

Megyn and Schoen: "They need to ask who was in the room and who said what to who about what to say when you went out there in front of the cameras."

Megyn: She now asks the question about the Prez's upcoming "I killed Osama" Movie and runs an Ad preview. Ramifications?

Schoen: brushes that aside by reiterating that the Repubs have to seize the opportunity this Benghazi-gate offers and they have not yet done that."

Megyn: I think I see the press starting to do some of that.

Caddell: Not enough. The Press is currently writing their "the President won the Debate tomorrow night" editorials. They are not doing their job. The Repub's have to push this thing. It has the power to bring down the President and the Repub's are now going after this like they should be going after it."

[NK]

...unkind 'words'...

[NK]

Daddy-- thanks for that. I think Romney does bring this up,-- quickly tomorrow, like in response to Bams FIRST attack. By baiting Bam about Benghazi lies, Bam will respond either by telling another whopper, or by saying something really stupid. Romney merely has to introduce the topic, and good things will happen.

[daddy]

It has the power to bring down the President and the Repub's are NOT going after this like they should be going after it."

Sorry, got that bit wrong.

[Chubby]

((Jane-- no more Benghazi in the Lamestream Media until after the election. they know it hurts Bam AND HILLARY-- so they'll embargo the story, as they did with F&F.))

that will be quite hard to do if Susan Rice is called in to testify under oath

[Stephanie]

LUN for a freeper's take on the possibility of a staged event in Benghazi.

(cross posted from the Sunday thread)

Interesting take.

[NK]

Holder stiffed Issa for almost 1 year about F&F-- Rice will skate for more than 3 weeks, easily. The onl time Bam MUST respond to Benghazi is at the debate tomorrow.

[Chubby]

((Bam will respond either by telling another whopper, or ))

he will say that Romney is politicizing Benghazi

that is their current talking point

[Jane - Mock the media]

NK,

I wasn't looking in the MSM.

[Chubby]

their *every* answer for every issue is a personal attack on the character of Romney

and they keep repeating the same slogans over and over like they are training parrots, which in effect they are

[NK]

Bam will at first follow the script 'politics, politics,', but Romeny can easily mock Bam about the Benghazi incompetence or worse-- Bam can't stand to be mocked-- he'll rise to the bait and tell a whopper or say something incredibly stupid IMO.

[Chubby]

((Rice will skate for more than 3 weeks, easily. ))

that remains to be seen

[NK]

'Drip' I understand, but with the Lamestream Media embargoing the story, a leak will not have a major impact with just Blog coverage, so HILLARY and Rice and Bam will have all their people keep their mouths shut -- until after the election.

[Jane - Mock the media]

Tierney trailing Tisei 51 to 39. That is really really good news.

[Jane - Mock the media]

Janet,

Bielat - Kennedy debate tonite at 7:30 - only on line. I don't have a link, but Howie Carr will.

[daddy]

Stuff Obama will say tomorrow night about Benghazi:

"There you go again Governor Romney, with your tendency to shoot first and aim later. But I have learned that as President you cannot do that. That is irresponsible. That is reckless. That is why I have commissioned an investigation into the facts about the tragedy in Benghazi, and it would behoove you Governor Romney, and all American's, including the 47% you so callously dismiss, to let this Investigation run it's course before making any more ill advised, irresponsible statements, like your previous ones, especially when it is evident that you and the Republican's are doing this for partisan political purposes, as evidenced by your running mate, Paul Ryan's efforts to cut the budgeting for Embassy Security. The buck stops at the Presidents desk. Nobody cares more than I do about getting to the bottom of this, so let's listen to the former Navy Seal's mother. Let's stop the partisan bickering for political points, and lets let this investigation run it's proper course without unnecessary outside interference."

[Clarice]

rse, want to make sure you see this:http://pjmedia.com/blog/biased-against-the-bright/?singlepage=true

[lyle]

Let's stop the partisan bickering for political points, and lets let this investigation run it's proper course without unnecessary outside interference."

Obama added, "According to my sources deep in the intelligence community, this investigation should be complete no earlier than Nov. 7th."

[Sue]

I suspect Ace is in the same boat I'm in. I want the polls to reflect what you guys are saying. They are starting to, but they aren't there yet. And I worry about Ohio. It is always close.

In 2000 it was Bush +2.1. He won by +3.5. In 04 it was Bush +2.1. He won by +3.5. In 08 RCP had it Obama +2.5. He won by +4.6. Right now they have it Obama +2.2. It seems to me they have a tendency to be under what the actual count is on election day in each election. In Ohio, anyway.

In 2004 it was back and forth between Bush and Kerry and didn't really settle for Kerry until the end of October.

Anyway, I want the polls to show Romney ahead. If it takes waiting until the end of October before they make their adjustments, I'll just have to wait. Until then, I'm as nervous as a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

[daddy]

"this investigation should be complete no earlier than Nov. 7th."

That's the game plan, Lyle.

[NK]

daddy-- EXACTLY-- Bam will say something incredibly stupid, just like that. To which Romney Responds-- "We all know from the sworn testimony of DOS undersecretaries last week what happened-- on the anniversary of 9/11 AQ ambushed and assasinated Ambassador Stevens. The question we and millions of Americans are asking are asking Mr POTUS, is why did you and the SOS carry on a ridiculous charade for weeks about obscure videos which had nothing to do with the assasination--- and when we first raised these questions why did you instruct UN Ambassador Rice to CONFIRM it was the video, and why did you go to the UN and apologize on behalf of the US and pay for adverts in Pakastan apologizing, when you knew the video had nothing to do with the assasination. These are simple and direct questions the American people are asking about the 6th assasination of a US ambassador in the history of our country. Your response has been attacks on the people asking the honest questions,and your response looks like a cover up. "

[Sue]

I just realized the numbers for 2000 were the same numbers for 2004. I made a mistake somewhere.

[Sue]

Well, on further reflection, apparently Bush won Ohio in 00 and 04 by the same margin. +3.5.

[Jane - Mock the media]

Daddy,

He also should respond by saying there was no cut in security - after all Austria got all those electric cars.

[Sue]

I think I posted in the wrong thread where this discussion was taking place. Sorry.

[MarkO]

Obama's a liar, you know.

[daddy]

Excellent reply NK.

That's what we need plenty of tomorrow night.

My take on what was driving Pat Caddell crazy, was that the topic of the Benghazi cover-up was being mentioned by the Press, but the dirty work of actually getting to the bottom of Benghazi-gate was not actually being done---at least not by the MSM. The MSM is not pressing to find out who specifically said what specifically to whom, and if that isn't done by Team Romney, since it's not being done by the MSM, Obama gets away with it until after the Election when it doesn't matter.

Hair cut time. I should only have to pay the Barber half price, but oh well...

Later.

[daddy]

"He also should respond by saying there was no cut in security - after all Austria got all those electric cars."

Jane, or anyone.

Does anyone know if we are still giving hundreds of thousands to Quadaffi's son and daughter"s Scholarship funds? I have a vague memory we were doing that?

[matt]

Who gives a shit about the investigation at this point? The point is that Obama and Rice and Clinton knowingly misrepresented the events that occurred for political gain.

State will never take responsibility because it's a black eye and large institutions never like to take responsibility for their failures.

The Intel community warned that there were security issues and that there was something in the works for 9/11.

There is real time video of what occurred that would have been on someone's desk in real time.

This is even better documented than Fast & Furious and all of the facts are on the table.

The Media have decided it is a non issue except people keep bringing it up. Obama spent $200 million smearing Romney to limited effect it now seems. Now someone has to have the guts to ask Obama, Rice & Clinton point blank some very simple questions with no wiggle room. I would suggest that someone to be Romney, respectfully, tomorrow night.

"Mr. President, why did you tell us that the attacks were based on an obscure video when you knew that they weren't?"

"What was the point in deceiving the American people?"

"What was the point of your apologies at the UN, on Pakistani television, and elsewhere for the video?"

Force the President to justify his actions.

[Clarice]

Actually, he should note that it was the administration that shot first--If they were unsure of what happened on the ground they should have played the Rice Fandango and withheld comment until they had a better understanding of the events. Instead they did what comes naturally to this Administration--blame America first..

[rse]

Thanks Clarice. Put up a comment this morning that UNESCO started driving higher ed radical restructuring back in 1998. That was the document I located in Europe that I got kicked off a European server in the middle of reading it online.

Which is why I download first, record date, put the location on at least a printed out cover page, and print out whole document unless it is too long. I had done that that morning but it sure was a reminder.

The Benghazi behavior is so outrageous but the video of the mom will be toxic if it ever goes mainstream.

And college Fall breaks are expensive. The "I need this and that and probably this as well."

[NK]

Daddy, Matt,Clarice are all showing where Romney goes tomorrow about Benghazi when BAM says wait for the investigtion and the questions now are 'political.' Romney's response is devasting... we know what happened.. what Americans want to know is why did you spread the anti-US BS about the video for weeks? Why did you condemn America when you knew this was an AQ ambush? That wins a few undecideds and MANY soft ABO voters become rabid ABO, IMO.

[NK]

.. devastating...

[hrtshpdbox]

Todd Akin leading by 4 points in new poll. Akin is an absolute dullard to have said such a stupid thing, and he's a creep for not stepping aside for the sake of his party and his country - but of course it's better that he be elected than a Dem, so I'm very much rooting for him.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/15/akin-takes-lead-missouri-new-poll/

[lyle]

Akin is an absolute dullard to have said such a stupid thing, and he's a creep

But, dammit, he's OUR creepy dullard!

[Melinda Romanoff]

Fresh USA Today/Gallup.

Battleground state swing depicted.

In a good way.

[NK]

hrtshp-- thanks for that WashTimes report. The report claims that Akin is getting the repub/conservative $$$ he needs-- I expected that to happen. The Repubs need Akin to win (it should have been easy, in this poll McCaskill is at incumbent 45%), plus Scottie Centerfold to hold, and win the senate elections they should win. They need more than 51 repub Senators so a small number of Rinos can't sabotage the spending cut agenda.

[NK]

There's a place in the US Senate for dullards afterall.

[NK]

The Gallup battleground/women poll calls into question the wisdom of the 19th Amendment.

[lyle]

There's a place in the US Senate for dullards afterall.

I believe this has been well established for years, NK, alas...

FWIW, I'd take a dullard over a seditious jackass like JF'ingKerry.

[NK]

.... or the idiot Maine Rino bobsy twins, or Jimmy Jeffords (both a dullard and a Rino), or that opportunist dullard Rino Chuck Hagel.

[Rick Ballard]

NK,

You have to go a bit deeper to get some precision on the gender issue. It tracks AA preference and union membership more closely than gender. Single Julia's (the emo idiots) actually carry less weight than female members of teacher's unions and certainly far less weight than black/Latino twofers.

Aside from the emos, the split may be the most economically rationale choice of any demographic subgroup.

[The future must not belong.]

Lest we forget, in addition to telling his dangerous and deliberate lie, Obama was also attacking our First Amendment.
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[NK]

RickB-- you're the best poll dancer around. I'm still dubious about the whole 19th amendment thing though.

[Oh, you're talkin' suffrage not temperance.]

Water Closet Testing Union, WCTU.
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[pagar]

"He also should respond by saying there was no cut in security "

Somewhere on JOM in the past 24 hrs I'm sure I read a comment that the State Dept has lots of security money unspent because they don't want to arouse the haters into thinking we have security around our people, or some such BS.

[MarkO]

Obama is all speech code.

[NK]

ON topic-- 3 military helos at the UN this morning and now Politico reports-- the DoD is ready to pull the trigger in Libya-- kiss a few Bedouin tents and Camels goodbye-- http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/report-white-house-considering-retaliatory-libya-strike-138511.html

[Clarice]

Over $2 billion worth,pagar.

[Sue]

NK,

So do they strike tonight or in the morning? Which would give Obama the most political bang for his buck?

[lyle]

-- kiss a few Bedouin tents and Camels goodbye--

"Wag the camel."

[NK]

Libya strike-- I hope i'm being facetious about cruise missle strikes on empty tents. Bam wouldn't be so obvious as to pull a wag the dog in October-- would he?

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Schumer has announced he wants the country to go over the fiscal cliff rather than not raise taxes on the rich.

the DoD is ready to pull the trigger in Libya--

What does that mean? Leave?

[NK]

Listen-- the reason Bam won't 'wag the camel' is because it would cost him many (millions?) of leftwing antiwar votes. wag the camel is a big vote loser, so Bam won't do it, IMO.

[Janet]

Bielat - Kennedy debate tonite at 7:30 - only on line. I don't have a link, but Howie Carr will.

Thanks, Jane. I think Team Bielat finally shamed Kennedy into agreeing to a 4th debate on the 24th too....on TV.

Akin is an absolute dullard to have said such a stupid thing, and he's a creep for not stepping aside for the sake of his party and his country

I totally disagree with this. Obama wants to legalize sticking scissors into babies skulls...& a pro life candidate like Akin is a problem? We're embarrassed by Akin? Well NOT ME.

[lyle]

Listen, Barry. There's only one president cynical enough to fire off a Tomahawk or two into an empty tent to change the subject. And you're no Bill Clinton.

[Some Guy]

Listen-- the reason Bam won't 'wag the camel' is because it would cost him many (millions?) of leftwing antiwar votes.

I must regretfully beg to differ. If he hasn't already lost those votes, he'll never lose them.

The sad reality is that there is no such as thing as the antiwar left. You just have the run of the mill Anti-not-left Left who will sacrifice *any* principle in exchange for power.

[lyle]

I agree there is no antiwar left. Until there's a Republican in the WH.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

So Obama has leaked a possible strike on Libya by a former person who used to have security clearance.

Thanks Axelrod.

[NK]

Some guy-- be my guest and differ--alls fair;

MelR-- ZeroHedge humiliates itself with a libertarian FDR caused pearl harbor rant-- they regurgitate stuff I read from Tolland 40+ years ago. Sad-- http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-10-15/american-and-british-government-knew-%E2%80%93-down-day-%E2%80%93-coming-japanese-attack-pear

[Janet]

Here's a post from Sara on the last thread -

"Why is Axelrod, a man no longer part of the ADMINISTRATION, and no longer holding the clearances necessary to work in the WH, the one out on the Sunday shows talking about WH/Administration policy? Axelrod is CAMPAIGN not Administration so why is he being put forward (or putting himself forward) as the Administration spokesperson.

Okay I know why, but how is it legal and isn't there something wrong about someone who is not part of the Administration having such insider intimate knowledge of highly classified info that he is the one sent out to defend the policies and actions of the Administration, both WH and DoS? There is no official accountability at all, IMO.

Posted by: Sara | October 15, 2012 at 03:04 PM "

Great question. Obama & Clinton should be out answering questions....& Rice should have to answer about who sent her out to lie.

[Rick Ballard]

I wonder what sort of intelligence will be used to determine the correct recipients for the kinetic humanitarian aid delivery in Libya?

[NK]

darts? pin the tail on the Bedouin Camel, random numbers generator....

[Janet]

There is real time video of what occurred that would have been on someone's desk in real time.

Is there a picture of the intel/state dept. people sitting around a desk with Hillary squatting in the corner looking interested?

That DiploMad post asked - "Something else even more important comes through in the background briefing. Nowhere do we see mention of Hillary Clinton. Was she in the loop? Did anybody at any time inform the Secretary of an attack underway? Hard to believe they would not. If they did, what was her reaction? Did she contact anybody? The National Security Advisor? The President of the USA? The President of Libya?"

[Sue]

I wonder how threatening riots if Obama loses will play with swing voters? Check Drudge.

[Sara]

If you have a higher IQ and are better educated you have a much clearer idea that you can die very quickly than someone whose head is filled with mush.

My God, could you be any more patronizing, condescending, and offensive?

[Sara]

We're embarrassed by Akin? Well NOT ME.

Me either.

[Chubby]

somewhere in my reading over the weekend, I read that the intelligence people were studying all the videos that filmed the 6 hour attack, and that they were searching for familiar faces of known enemies.

[Sue]

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog

Rumor: debate originally had Cokie Roberts as moderator, but they were afraid Obama would try to snort her.

[Extraneus]

Akin is an absolute dullard to have said such a stupid thing, and he's a creep for not stepping aside for the sake of his party and his country

Hear, hear, Janet and others. The Dems are happy to have criminals, perverts, reprobates, fake Indians, "rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists" in their party, but we're supposed to shun an unapologetic conservative like Akin.

NOT ME, either, and I'm glad he'll take his seat with a grudge against the R establishment. Go Akin!

[pagar]

I'm not sure embarrassed is the right word, I believe Akin meant to say something and it didn't come out the way he meant it too.
But no matter how badly he expressed his thoughts in that situation, IMO he is going to make better decisions for his country than any senator with a D beside their name.
I support Candidate Akin.

[narciso]

Actually the Oct 12th briefing by Nuland, particularly the footage arriving at the DS headquarter is quite damning, The most motivated are often Salafi, in Bosnia, Chechnya, Libya, and now Syria,

[Extraneus]

Patrick Caddell:

It's scary, how much the New York Times is in the tank for Obama over Libya

[Extraneus]

"Journalist" Who Giggled That Republcans Dared To Have a Convention While "Black People Drowned" Of Course Fails Upward, Secures New Job With Unbiased Politico

Get caught soliciting mob-run prostitutes while a serving governor and they'll give you a whole TV show!

“David screwed up, admitted he screwed up and paid the price of losing his job for screwing up. He certainly would have been held accountable for the lapse in judgment had he been on the Politico staff at the time,” Harris told Politico. “He’s made clear that remark did not reflect his personal views or professional standards. This is a journalist who carries with him more than a decade of accomplishment and a well-earned reputation for fairness. We do not believe that lapse in one moment negates a reputation held in high regard by political professionals in both parties.”

[pagar]

Drudge shows a report saying:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/every-person-added-labor-force-10-added-those-not-labor-force_654547.html

I don't understand how we think unemployment can decrease with these numbers?
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[Some Guy]

“He’s made clear that remark did not reflect his personal views or professional standards."

So they reflect his impersonal views or his unprofessional standards?

[Extraneus]

One reason why undecided voters remain undecided is that they are uncomfortable with newness. If forced to choose between the familiar and the strange, they tend to retreat to the familiar — if the two options are otherwise similar. But what if the familiar option is now damaged goods? The hesitant chooser then faces a dilemma, whether it’s best to stick with the flawed product you know, or to take a leap of faith and anoint an unfamiliar new product the status of best friends forever.

And thus they become paralyzed with indecision.

Decisive people never face this dilemma. If something fails, they have no problem discarding it and replacing it with a superior substitute. But hesitant, un-self-confident people have difficulty visualizing something that doesn’t already exist. And that makes it difficult for them to make changes in their lives.

[snip]

Such people need a little extra encouragement to internalize “President Romney” in their mental vocabulary. And once they become comfortable with the concept, they will feel freer to embrace something new and vote for Romney, because the notion of “President Romney” will no longer be strange and unfamiliar.

Behold HypnoRomney

[pagar]

"We do not believe that lapse in one moment negates a reputation held in high regard by political professionals in both parties.”

Anyone know who the Republicans are who hold this guy in high regard?

[narciso]

The Denebian slime devil finds his own level;

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/06/3037393/channel-6-reporter-fired-over.html

[Clarice]

That bastard will fir in perfectly with the numbnuts in Seattle who don't give a damn about truth.

[Clarice]

*fiT* in perfectly

[Extraneus]

Isn't he the only one of supposedly three who were supposedly fired?

Who would hire this douchebag after taking one look at him, anyway?

[Extraneus]

Ok, so nobody can post after being mesmerized by that dashingly handsome douche? How about this video of the "riot" in Egypt?

link

Would it be unkind of me to wish that they all just killed each other? Surely it would, so I'll try not to.

[pagar]

Why is it that the video that was supposedly seen by almost noone has caused riots all over the Muslim world and yet the film about the killing of Bin Laden is seemingly expected to be riot free?

[narciso]

That is a bit of a poser, Pagar,

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2012/10/15/former-nytimes-reporter-secretive-drone-strikes-would-get-much-more-scr

[NK]

pagar-- how about Bam boasting his ass off for 16 months that HE killed Ossama, like in some kind of personal mano a mano combat-- wouldn't that kind of POTUS gloating incite the Muslim world?