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November 12, 2012

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Jim Ryan

Sue, it couldn't happen here. Can you imagine the derisive laughter coming from our servicemen if he tried to seize direct control of them? They are America's finest.

DebinNC

I hope FBI head Robert Mueller is honest and upstanding, since no scandals indicate otherwise. I shutter to think who BOzo would replace him with, especially if reports today that Eric Holder is staying on are true.

Rob Crawford

Another general going down?

Ladles and gentlebees, I do believe we're watching a purge in progress.

narciso

I think I made that point, first, there's a reason, Erdogan is his favorite foreign leader.

maryrose

Obama's war on the military begins. But remember during the debate he said no sequester. Defense spending will decrease and John {magic hat } Kerry will look the other way as Sec of Defense.or {sod]Bammy will make a deal with Russia now that he has more flexibility and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will wind down. The only military commanders left will do Obama's bidding because he's the expert on military matters according to him. In response to a comment by clarice earlier.- I believe in the crucial moment of Benghazi- Obama froze. It is his signature move along with indecisiveness.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Thanks for the link Rick. I'll peruse it at my leisure. :)

Dave (in MA)
I'm telling you, Obama is ridding himself of generals. I'm starting to worry.
No need to worry, once we have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
DebinNC

The phone rings at 3 a.m.. It's picked up in the WH, but no words are spoken on that end. Just silence until the caller finally hangs up or dies.

Rob Crawford

I was thinking this was all Central Command and could have been chalked up to the Petraeus investigation shaking things loose, but Africa Command is a different organization.

Keep an eye on the other commands.

narciso

So the real story is here;

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/13/abc-petraeus-conducted-investigation-in-benghazi-after-attack/

matt

This is devolving into an especially incompetent Soviet era character assassination plot.

The Daily Beast reports that Broadwell's e mails were not to the level of any form of criminal activity, but that the FBI agent may have been convinced because of some level of infatuation with the other broad.

The press has done it's best, of course to assassinate the characters of all involved and bring them down into the gutter with them.

This furthers the original General Betrayus meme, of course. All of the righteous poseurs of the Left can cluck and chortle as another one of those bad warmongers goes down in the dust, and if they can take Allen with him, it's a twofer.

What is left at the Pentagon is the sycophantic cast of thousands who will sing the praises of John Fucking Kerry as he finishes off our national defense. I wonder if we will get to see his DD-214 now.

tasker

AFRICOM --was organized out from under CENTCOM

__________

Prior to the creation of AFRICOM, three Unified Commands had divided responsibility for U.S. military operations in Africa (EUCOM for West Africa, CENTCOM for East Africa, PACOM for Indian Ocean waters and islands off the east coast of Africa).

Rob Crawford
I wonder if we will get to see his DD-214 now.

Original or amended version?

James D.

Imagine if the press actually asked questions and tried to connect some dots? If they wonddered aloud about the timing oof so many high ranking generals all coming under a cloud of personal scandal all at the same time? Right after a close and bitter election?. And in the midst of an ugly foreign policy disaster the gov'ts story about which seems to change daily?

That used to be the sort of thing that fascinated reporters, especially investigative reporters, didn't it?

Ranger

53% say they will blame Republicans in Congress if country goes over fiscal cliff, 29% would blame Obama.

This has been Obama's plan all along. Drive over the fiscal cliff, and blame the Republicans. I think Obama honestly believes that raising taxes won't cause that much of an economic impact, and going over the cliff he thinks will take his finger prints off a recesion that is already baked in.

Rob Crawford
That used to be the sort of thing that fascinated reporters, especially investigative reporters, didn't it?

The Kolchak Ideal would be all over it; the Ted Baxter Reality is content to read the press releases and have lunch with someone important. Have to maintain access, dontchaknow.

James D.

Oh,I know, Rob.

I also know it's unchristian to wish a slow, painful and degrading death, followed by a place in the ninth circle of hell to the people who are destroying ourcountry, And their enablers, but I do just the same.

(A) nuther Bub

Linda Lingle in Hawaii was another mainstream squish who got rolled.

Anyone who believes that Linda Lingle got rolled because she was a "mainstream squish" has zero understanding of Hawaii's ethnic and political culture.

narciso

There are a few reporters who are still dogged on this, Eli Lake, for the most part, still managed to carom to the right point.

Danube of Thought on IPad

"What's next? federal taxpayer bailout of the former Golden State."

If taxpayers in fiscally responsible states are forced to pay for CA's grotesque excesses, it will mark the end of our federal system.

Sandy Daze

Broadly speaking, General William E. Ward, former commander, U.S. Africa Command, was essentially charged with behavior in that former position, which has come to be seen as routine behavior by the resident, in his position.
This behavior, if conducted by a lowly private or a mid-career Major, would almost certainly result in a government-funded visit to the Big House, where they'd learn to make pebbles out of boulders.
I have no sympathy for the Ward & his dilemma.
There is nothing I have read over the last months that suggests to me in any way shape or form that the minor wrist slap that Ward is receiving is in any way disproportionate to his behavior, nor is it reflective of a "purge." Your investigation might reveal extenuating circumstances of which I am not aware. I would be very pleased to be corrected.

(I am anguished by what is happening to the U.S. Military, both acts of commission, omission and the resident's efforts.)

Rob Crawford

Sandy, it's, well, I "question the timing". IF they had not embargoed the Petraeus story until after the election, it wouldn't be suspicious. As it is, it seems like a steamroller.

narciso

Collectively, it adds up to a purge, Sandy,
regardless of the particulars, Ward for many
reasons,

narciso

'fell on his sword'

Threadkiller

"53% say they will blame Republicans in Congress if country goes over fiscal cliff, 29% would blame Obama."

And that 53% is the demographic Jindal wants to welcome into the GOP tent.

Smart guy.

pagar

"Rush: It seems to me that we have way too many Generals taking orders from their privates"

Sue @12:18 post of the day.

narciso

'Brawndo, electrolytes' we were off by five hundred years.

Ranger

BTW, a big part of why we are probably going over the fiscal cliff, is that even if the Republicans were willing to give the Dems everything they wanted, the Dems themselves can't agree on what they want. Obama wants the rates to go up for those making over $200K/$250K. But Dems in congress are only willing to go along with raising takes on those making over $1M (way too many people make over $250K a year in those deep blue counties around NYC, Chicago, and other high cost blue hells).

maryrose

Happy Birthday SBW
pagar: Agree with post of the day
James D: It seems so unfair that for now lies and evil triumph. However this too shall pass and there is hope for the future beyond this trying era.

Sandy Daze

Well, it may seem like a purge, and no doubt the flag officers are looking over their shoulders...

If it is a purge, can we please get rid of Dempsey?

Page out of Machiavelli, to be sure... but a few more heads will (figuratively, of course) have to roll before I am convinced.

Then again, Reporting for Doody would remove all doubt, if SecDef.

Barack Obama

"it will mark the end of our federal system."

::puts index finger on nose and points to Danube of Thought::

narciso

No, they will keep Dempsey, he's just the kind of toothless condottieri, they want.

maryrose

Ranger
What you say is true. They just need to eliminate deductions and lower capital gains taxes to get some more revenue. The number Biden and Obama cite hits too many middle class people. Of course many of these people voted for Mr I Won so if their taxes increase they have only themselves to blame. As for those who chose Romney-move now to protect your assets.

Dave (in MA)

Narc, my FB avatar has been the "Idiocracy" poster for about 9 hours shy of 1 week.

matt

Ward was way out of control. He was living lifestyles of the rich & famous on the taxpayer dime. Ham came in, and now he's leaving early.

I hate to say it, but this may all involve the egregious manner in which our senior officers are now selected.I had no beef at all with McKiernan, who sounded the original alarm on undermanning the Afghanistan theater.

If you knew the truth on how poorly we were doing in supporting our troops you would be shocked.He requested 30,000-60,000 additional troops based upon direct needs and districts that had been taken over by the Taliban because of manpower shortages and an incompetent ANA at the time.

Then came McChrystal, who simply had poor judgement. Bammers was in deep kimchi at this point and gets Petraeus, but undermans the surge anyway and shortens it so that it can never work. Petraeus is booted upstairs after a year.

There has been no continuity in Afghanistan among many other failures. Odierno is a nice guy and a good general, but is out of his league. Casey was a paranoid, mean SOB who hid down in his cave.

Dempsey is the perfect political henchman.The trend has been towards yes men for some time now, and we have not help our military as accountable as we should have.

Most of the people who were expert in fighting Afghan style warfare have up and left; burned out, jaded, burned by political correctness and rear echelon BS and feeling used like no other. There are a lot of people just counting their time now.

There are some good mid level field grade officers out there, but they have been led poorly. The military is in much worse shape than is being let on.

Porchlight

Happy birthday, sbw!

Janet, thank you for your 9:34 am.

Frau Hahnrei

RichUF - Yes, D.C. sure loves its loving.

Elliott

Happy birthday, sbw!

pagar

My guess is Obama has his security forces ready to replace those who voted for his opponent.
Didn't Val Jarrett say it was time for payback.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/26/ahmadinejad-meets-with-nation-of-islam-leader-louis-farrahkan/

(A) nuther Bub

Has anyone linked Michael Yon's essay on Petraeus? It's beautifully done. (LUN)

sbw

"Jindal's no loon, TK, He's a very smart guy."

My sole exposure to Jindal was a long-ago national convention speech that bombed terribly. He'll need to get out on the stump to recover from that.

Danube of Thought on IPad

"once the initial resistance to breaking the law is overcome, the tax collectors never catch up."

It's my understanding that this is what happened in Greece. More and more people got fed up and simply stopped paying, and the government was powerless to do anything about it.

Sandy Daze

In Soviet Amerika

… Obama doesn’t have to kill all the Generals in his coup d’etat. They’re doing it for him.

~~~
Makes my point better than I was...

Jim Eagle

(A)B,

Pretty much echoing what Ken Allard has written.

This is more than a purge. The self-delivered purge happens when John F**king Kerry becomes SecDef and the flag officer corp resigns en masse.

Danube of Thought on IPad

"The ever expanding tent of the non-insulting party of smart stops just short [of] letting 40% of the nation be heard."

Who's stopping them from being heard? Doesn't Joe Arpaio hold press conferences on the subject? Doesn't Donald Trump bellow about it non-stop?

Time to consider the possibility that they have been heard, but that a substantial majority of people couldn't care less about what they are saying. That certainly includes this Republican.

Threadkiller

Arpaio heard the 40% and won.

Ranger

It's my understanding that this is what happened in Greece. More and more people got fed up and simply stopped paying, and the government was powerless to do anything about it.

I think the term I have seen used is "middle class anarchy." The current American Elite have forgotten that their entire system of power is based on being able to harvest large amounts of revinue from the middle class. If the middle class does decide the "rules don't matter" any more, the gravy train ends.

matt

Jib;

You have the DoD celebrating diversity day now and flag officers whose job it is to ensure that out jets and fleet can run on $25/gallon green gasoline and ships that are rusting before they get off the ways and ship programs that make no sense.

One half of the Pentagon is thinking up stupid shit for the other half to do. Rumsfeld's greatest defeat was in getting the bureaucracy under control and he failed miserably.

Add to that a gun shy, idea shy senior officer corps and sycophants such as today's JCS and throw Kerry into the mix and voila', we are in deep doo doo.

We have built a land force that is very good at driving around in Vogon land cruisers and is only partially successful in avoiding getting blown up by 15th century Ammonium nitrate bombs.

We are flying close air support from carriers 300 miles from the war zone using planes completely unsuited to the task while the AF tries to get rid of the A-10 fleet for the 4th or 5th time, each time in the wake of its tremendous success.

The Pentagon needs a serious case of "what the F is the matter with you people?" self searching. We have the greatest military in the world being mind f'd into the fetal position questioning its very soul.

jimmyk

It's my understanding that this is what happened in Greece.

This has been true of Italy as well, perhaps not as extreme as Greece, but in the same direction. Yet people on the left scoff at the Laffer curve.

Old Lurker

"It's my understanding that this is what happened in Greece. More and more people got fed up and simply stopped paying, and the government was powerless to do anything about it."

I wonder how many of my shopping center tenants would be willing to pay their rent in cash for a discount??? Hmmm.

Dave (in MA)

(A)B, Yon's essay makes him sound like the stand-up guy we all thought he was. Not sure what to think w.r.t. Yon & the feud with the Blackfive folks, though.

You'd think a guy like Petraeus would be able to avoid getting taken down by a bunny boiler.

Rob Crawford
Yet people on the left scoff at the Laffer curve.

It's rather amusing how they believe merely passing laws changes behavior everywhere except when it comes to taxes.

OldTimer

Kerry would have to be confirmed by the Senate. Hopefully our side has every damn Vietnam era anti-American indiscretion this particular piece of slime ever committed. He's unworthy to serve in any military capacity anywhere and should have been hung for treason decades ago.

Rob Crawford

The Senate will not block one of their own.

OldTimer

They would at least delay the proceedings indefinitely if they were bombarded by hundreds of thousands of enraged vets and American citizens.

Danube of Thought on IPad

"Arpaio heard the 40% and won."

Right--a single Arizona county. I imagine there may well be a dozen other counties that Arpaio might have won while running as a birther. But who knows? Arpaio has won previously without birtherism, so perhaps he had something else going for him.

The 40% have been heard. Obama has been elected twice.

Dave (in MA)

I can only imagine what kind of stellar talent is waiting in line to fill Lurch's shoes.

Rick Ballard

"I wonder how many of my shopping center tenants would be willing to pay their rent in cash for a discount?"

Gee. I wish I'd thought of that. Ya know, if ya calculated things just right and set the apparent rent schedule to an amount that never generated a profit while tucking away the initial cash payment, you'd be in fat city in no time.

Oddly enough, thirteen rent payments are very common in Italy. Very, very common.

matt

Arpaio won Maricopa County, which is Phoenix, DoT. How he does it I'm not sure, but they love him there.

jimmyk

The Senate will not block one of their own Democrats.

FTFY
John Tower is screaming from his grave.

daddy

The Petraeus story is turning into a love icosahedron.

Just adding a little clarity for we mathematically challenged JOMers.

Frau Hahnrei

sbw - Best wishes on your birthday. Thanks for spending it with JOM.

Jindal's speaking ability: I've heard 'early' Obama and he was carpy. Maybe Oprah can recommend some NLP outfit.

daddy

FWIW,

In my 11 Active, 9 Reserve years in the Service I was only personally familiar with 1 Officer who was ever brought up on adultery charges. I had never even heard of the charge being leveled before. This Officer was brought up on Adultery charges. Twice. The individual beat the rap both times in a UCMJ hearing (don't know the technical term exactly). The old man hated this Officer. I could comment on this Officers guilt or innocence but I won't.

Anyhow, he is now a very senior Union Rep and moving up in the national hierarchy.

Figures.

Off on a Library run. Later.

Extraneus

I can only imagine what kind of stellar talent is waiting in line to fill Lurch's shoes.

Not to mention that Warren would then become "the Senior Senator from the Great State of Massachusetts."

Old Lurker

That's the ticket!

All I could stomach from Lucianne: "Former Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele is floating the idea of running for his old post again."

Sandy Daze
Halp Us Jon Carry
Frau Hahnrei

I can recall even if she can't. William Safire had Hillary! and the truth figured out.

Captain Hate

Anyone who believes that Linda Lingle got rolled because she was a "mainstream squish" has zero understanding of Hawaii's ethnic and political culture.

As much understanding as people branding multi-state candidates as "loons"? It's still a loss which seems of overriding importance.

MAM

Lots of of people in Massachusetts think that Scott Brown would run for the open senate seat. I think he could win - he won the last special election and there won't be a presidential election to help another fake indian over the top. Gosh, she is such a buffoon. Meanwhile, I am still in a funk about the election and I'm beginning to think there was enough voter fraud to have stolen a couple of those swing states. How can we combat the fraud? What can someone like me do to help? Suggestions?

Captain Hate

Not to mention that Warren would then become "the Senior Senator from the Great State of Massachusetts."

Does anybody doubt that if Warren would have lost that she'd have been appointed to Lurch's seat anyway?

jimmyk

In case these crime/scandal developments haven't already been mentioned:
(h/t Tim Blair)

Elmo in sex scandal

http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/12/elmo-kevin-clash-sex-sesame-street-underage-boy-allegations/

John McAfee wanted for murder--yes, that's the McAfee of your antivirus program. Up till now his biggest crime has been preloading his software onto your computer and making it hard to delete.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/behind-the-antivirus-entrepreneur-john-mcafee/story-e6frg6n6-1226515570390

OldTimer

I loved his anti-Clinton columns, Frau. From Wiki: After voting for Bill Clinton in 1992, Safire became one of the leading critics of Clinton's administration. Hillary Clinton in particular was often the target of his ire. He caused controversy when he called her a "congenital liar"; she responded that she didn't feel offended for herself, but for her mother's sake.

jimmyk

And I hope she wasn't reading JOM's discussion about low Republican turnout:

http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-woman-runs-down-husband-car-not-voting-045426220.html

Police said Daniel Solomon told them his wife became angry over his "lack of voter participation" in last Tuesday's presidential election and believed her family would face hardship as a result of Obama winning another term.
Sandy Daze



Halp Us Jon Carry

cathyf
No, that's still not OK. Because Libya is 100% Zero's baby. He entered into it without Congressional approval, or oversight, or even notice (let alone ever explaining to the American people generally what we were doing, or why, or how it benefitted either American interests or any other interest).
It's even worse than that -- Libya was one of Bush's most important achievements -- he used a combination of carrot and stick to bring Khadaffy around to being cooperative with the US, if not actually an ally. But Zero wanted to destroy Bush's work, so he betrayed Khadaffy. I think he was probably completely oblivious to how this would mean that no bad-guy world leader would ever trust the US ever again.

It always comes back to this one truth about progressives. Conservatives think that America's enemies are their enemies. Progressives think that conservatives are their enemies, and that conservatives are just inventing the whole bogeyman that America has enemies. It goes along with the belief that all of those people who are brown or poor in foreign countries are subhuman, and have no beliefs or moral agency of their own, and are nothing more than cardboard cutouts backstage of the real drama of their fight-to-the-death with their conservative enemies.

Jim Ryan

Good news! Obama is a Rockefeller Republican. Phew! I'm relieved. lvi

Sandy Daze

Halp Us Jon Carry

Danube of Thought on IPad

It's really amazing to me that JOM'ers are focusing on these relatively trivial conspiracies, completely ignoring the fact that the Father of the Vatel Theory himself has revealed to us that there is an active terrorist sleeper cell operating on US soil, and that its first strike was the Dark Knight movie massacre.

Wake up, people!

matt

I tink we're faced with Manchurian candidate(s).

Dave (in MA)

--
Stephen Green ‏@VodkaPundit
I'm sending this tweet totally shirtless.
--

Dave (in MA)

jimmyk, McAfee sold his company long before they started those shenanigans. The company I work for has standardized on some Roosky crap that slows your machine down. At home I use Microsoft Security Essentials, having switched from the free AVG when it started getting too annoying.

narciso

The same as he did to Mubarak and more importatn his middleman Suleiman, who ran the renditions effort. Of course, back then John' Do you know who I am' Kerry was 'for Mubarak
before he was against him'. As with Bashir who was of marginal unitility, but more often
a nusiance, or worse, in the way they ran ratlines into Iraq.

Btw, Vince Flynn's latest, the last man covers this territory very well, in Afghanistan, although it could as well be Libya, Rapp is charged with investigating
an incident, where a high CIA official,
dissapears after being kidnapped in an operation somewhat like Baghazi

Threadkiller

The 40% have been heard. Obama has been elected twice.

Posted by: Danube of Thought on IPad | November 13, 2012 at 02:16 PM

I could not have said it better myself.

They are not to be toyed with.

narciso

Ah, Richard Cohen, lends him inimical wisdom,

Sandy Daze

Halp Us Jon Carry
Chubby

a major difference between the Democrats and Republicans is that the Democrats love their fringe groups and support and encourage them. Daily Kos, Saint Cindy Sheehan, NAMBLA parade marches, high profile Dan Rather pushing the Bush AWOL story (and awarded lifetime achievement accolades even after disgraced by flogging a forgery.) they save their insults for the people who don't vote Democrat.

narciso

Not surrprisingly, there is a slimy nazgul of a politico, in this tale, who resembles Kerry,

Chubby

the swiftees ran the only kind of campaign that will ever be successful against chronic and ruthless mudslingers, and that is to sling even more mud than they do. if the mud that Republicans sling is true, all the better, but it really doesn't matter if it's true or not, as we just witnessed in the last election.

narciso

Yes they put Terry McAulliffe, an oily hack, and Howard 'Yeargh' Dean, a certifiable nutcase, as successive party chairman

Captain Hate

Of course, back then John' Do you know who I am' Kerry was 'for Mubarak

narc, we're just not nuanced enough to appreciate Lurch's wisdom. I hope the Swiftboat Vets show up for his hearings and a certain Senator from South Carolina who needs to act like a conservative between now and 2014 decides to take the term "opposition party" to heart.

Chubby

if Romney had been advised that the best thing he could do is go on the attack, I wonder how effective he would have been as a street fighter. Something we'll never know.

narciso

The party doesn't even bother telling the truth about our opponent, whereas they spread
every lie, one could possibly imagine, well the death squad financing, didn't circulate, but they thought they didn't need it.

Frau Hahnrei

Gack! Save us from the another sock puppet of Uncle Soros. This one carries the Hapsburg jaw gene.

Between listening to F'n John and Obama - is there a medical term for death by auditory input?
Earfare?

narciso

Yes, so I've been told, that was then when Egypt minus Mohammed Atta and Zawahiri was
a showcase of stability, and now 'we're shocked toruture and corruption, is going on here.

Janet

That is exactly right, narciso. And what was the down side for huge lies? Nothing. 3 Pinnochios in the WaPo on pg. A6 tucked between pro-Obama articles.
The lie sticks with the public. Damage done.

Captain Hate

Terry McAulliffe, an oily hack

The WSJ used to itemize the shady deals that he profited from (I'm sure Mel knows a few of them) and he'd show up for the Sunday gab shows and it was like those were further in the distance than Alpha Centauri.

Threadkiller

Sure we know, Chubby:

Mitt Romney outraged the Obama’s campaign on Friday by telling a Michigan crowd that “no one’s ever asked to see my birth certificate,” in what appeared to be a wink at persistent conspiracy theories about the president’s birthplace.

Limbaugh understood:

But Rush Limbaugh was among those who believed the “birther” line may have been a calculated effort to appeal to the chunk of Republicans who still believe Obama was not born in the U.S. and is therefore not qualified to be president.

“I think this line is a test drive,” Limbaugh said on his radio show.

Romney didn't:

Romney advisers insisted that the line was nothing more than an innocent, off-the-cuff quip.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-08-24/news/33371844_1_obama-campaign-birther-mitt-romney

How did the crowd react?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NSBXmIG4iQ

Luntz should talk to the middle again and give anchor baby Jindal some tips.

Janet

Don't know about death, Frau...but I believe narciso used the term "audio sominex".

narciso

It was either Global Crossing or WorldCom, they are running him for Governor, again, becuase we need the comic relief

narciso

No, that's David Gergen, not to be listened to, if driving or operating heavy machinery, Vogon poetry is the closest equivallent to those two.

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