Whodunnit? Benghazi Talking Points Mysteriously Changed

The Administration talking points on Benghazi were edited to downplay the terror references, but by whom? In a nice display of synchronized finger-pointing, everyone involved says it was someone else.

Vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee Saxby Chambliss (R., Ga.) also said on Fox News Sunday that Petraeus said the initial talking points were altered and that senior intelligence and security officials did not know who was behind the changes.

“At the hearing we had on Thursday and Friday, we had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the State Department, the FBI, everybody there was asked, do you know who made these changes? And nobody knew,” Chambliss said.

“The only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the White House. I don’t know whether what they said yesterday is exactly right or not. But, what I do know is that every member of the intelligence community says that references to al Qaeda were removed by somebody and they don’t know who. And references to attacks versus demonstrations were removed by somebody.”

Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) disagreed with Rogers and said allegations the White House changed the talking points were false. “So there was only one thing that was changed and I’ve checked into this, I believe it to be absolute fact and that was the word ‘consulate’ was changed to ‘mission,’” she said on the same program.

Although they risk offending their Silicon Valley supporters, Team Obama might want to consider blaming AutoCorrect.

Comments

[henry]

Gus, fun visit yesterday, even though you were acoustic, not ALL CAPS.

[Extraneus]

427 acres, according to the website. :-)

[pagar]

Since it is not about Benghazi, I guess this is O/T.
Here is a Democrat who apparently did not grow into her job:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/19/ma-gov-reassigns-state-highway-safety-director-who-cant-drive-without-causing-accidents-breaking-laws/

But apparently she'll still get her taxpayer funded salary.

[Manuel Transmission]

Here is a potential monkey wrench on the castle thing (LUN), at least in the UK. Looks like they are getting a jump on the outright theft of wealth. Should make it all the easier when the SCOAMF does it over here.

One of the commenters offered this:

When recently discussing the Government of the day with a group of managers of a Kremlin owned business in Russia, I thought we were talking about Russia and Putin when the country's leadership was described as an out of touch elite who all went to the same school and did not know what the price of a basket of groceries cost. Funnily enough my Russian friends were actually talking about Cameron and his cronies, not Putin! Mr Cameron, please remind me how much a pint of milk costs, and what type of school did you and most of your cabinet colleagues go to?

I think it will take a little more than 'gators in the moat.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

This is an MSNBC poll on whether Israel should be allowed to defend itself. Go vote and really screw them up.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Has anyone here read The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt?

[henry]

Thanks Jane, the good guys are now down 22 votes. Hit it JOM tribe!

[pagar]

Maybe we can have Biden check that Ireland property.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/biden-obama-wants-to-golf-in-ireland-but-i-dont-want-to-take-him/article/2513829

[pagar]

What kind of leftist propaganda spreader poll is that? Won't accept voting twice.

[DrJ]

Right, pagar. I've voted four times already!

[Extraneus]

Maybe we can have Biden check that Ireland property.

Careful, pagar. What if Julianne Malveaux was right about black men dying young? I know he's only half-black, but Obama's father was 46 when he died.

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden is president before 2016.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Pretty sure Chris Dodd could make us a better deal on any property in Ireland.
However once we owned it we would then have to contend with:
1. Irish weather and,
2. You know...Irish people. Ew.

[JM Hanes]

pagar:

"I don't believe Allen West got a full and Complete recount."

I was't talking exclusively about recounts, although I think challenging results which fall within the margin of fraud, not just legal parameters, could be well worth doing. On that subject, however, I've also mused about a potentially salutary effect, if the RNC were to fund enough random recounts (perhaps where there are not mandated by statute at all) to make election boards everywhere wonder if they, too, might end up with a surprise inspection on their hands.

In any case, I was actually thinking about beginning at an even more basic level than recounts. I see not conceding (or perhaps even declaring victory) until every last vote has been tallied as at least one relatively easy way of introducing rigor into the system, wherever any opportunity, large or small, presents itself. Democrats have been beating the "voter suppression" drum for all it's worth. Let's return the favor.

That wouldn't be enough, in and of itself, to eliminate corruption in places like Philadelphia, but it would up the risks and make it easier to identify suspicious patterns over multiple elections. It's my impression that once a candidate concedes, assuming the margin exceeds the automatic recount level and there are ostensibly not enough outstanding votes to change the outcome, a lot of localities basically just quit counting. Such a practice, among others, invites the kind of sloppiness which has now become an acceptable excuse for "finding" ballots in the trunk of someone's car. It also leaves an indeterminate number of outstanding votes which could easily be supplemented if a recount does come into play.

The biggest scandal, IMO, is the fact that even Republicans haven't managed to do a thing about the egregious handling of ballots for those in active military abroad. Those mind boggling failures seem to have virtually no consequences, legal or otherwise, for anyone involved at all.

[Extraneus]

Sheesh, I hadn't planned on going to Wal-Mart on Friday, but I guess I will now.

Wal-Mart files legal complaint against growing protests ahead of Black Friday

[Extraneus]

Look for me on this website next week.

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

[narciso]

There is a law, which governs such things, MVA or somethng, that either Christian Adams, or Van Spakovsky, pointed out, the DOJ is not enforcing,
'surprise, surprise'

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

""Natalie Khawam, sister of F Jill Kelley...has hired Gloria Allred"

[pagar]

DrJ, I see we're moving up.
---------------------------------------
JM Hanes,

I don't know if it could be done, but IMO, the standard should be the same as money being deposited in a bank. The importance of the votes ought to be worth a lot more than an ordinary bank deposit. There also ought to be some kind of penalty for having ballots in your trunk after they are supposed to be turned in.

[narciso]

They are deeply insane over at the 'Crazy One's network, I guess the parallel would be as in Vince Flynn's latest, if we targeted one of the ISI deputy directors, which we would be well within our brief to do,

[jimmyk]

If we can have internet voting in NJ, why not for our military? Is this something Congress can determine, or is it state by state?

[narciso]

Here's one account, we have a law, they won't enforce it;

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-report-military-voters-will-be-disenfranchised-on-election-day-without-immediate-action-166874816.html

[Laura]

From my Duke BA,m Univ of Va architecture grad sister in law this nugget of utter nonsense.

Think before you shop: Walmart makes close to $16 billion in profits and its executives brought home more than $10 million each. Six members of the Walton family, who own 48% of the company, are worth more than the bottom 42% of American families combined. An important percentage of those profits are made by keeping their workers in poverty. SHOP SMALL BUSINESSES! SHOP LOCAL!

[Danube of Thought on IPad]

Gus at 6:33--I posed that question a couple of days ago. I'm amazed that no talking head has raised the point.

[narciso]

I think Thomas Jefferson, would in retrospect, say it wasn't worth the candle, as for Duke, they
fully earn the contempt they get here,

[rse]

I have Jane.

I think it is an interesting book but mostly misrepresented.

Instead pf the advertising it got fro Conserv sites, the actual book puts in a plug for the emotional/Oriental experience mind instead of the rational mind. And the timing is interesting with that Contemplative Sciences Center opening and all the colleges at UVa working in that aspect to their programs.

[narciso]

I believe he had a piece in the Times, it's a look into the Decanting Pods in body snatchers,

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

RSE,

Dan Hannan recommended it and said he has given it to many liberal friends - all who have come back and said it gave them insight into their narrow mindedness.

[Danube of Thought on IPad]

If Gloria Allred at any time finds herself crosswise with Bob Barnett, she will receive her very first lesson in the big-time practice of law.

[Laura]

The real problem is they, the ignorant grads of these schools think they know best and care more. Ugh, that way lies serfdom.

[narciso]

It's the same organism, just different tentacles,

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/19/Exclusive-Dore-Gold

[Danube of Thought on IPad]

When my great-nephew (from Richmond) was an applicant to OCS, he sought and got an interview with John Warner to get a letter of recommendation. As it turned out, he had to wait in the Senator's office for an hour or so, during which he observed Warner dealing with his staff and with some press people. He was dumbstruck at what a bullying, screaming asshole the man was.

[Captain Hate]

I think Thomas Jefferson, would in retrospect, say it wasn't worth the candle, as for Duke, they
fully earn the contempt they get here,

My new Big 10 overlords would strongly approve of this statement.

[narciso]

O'Reilly telling Woodward, that All the President's Men, was why he got into Journalism,
as Holland revealed, it was mostly a lie in part.

[MarkO]

"I'm amazed that no talking head has raised the point." There is any easy answer to that.

Go easy on the Duke stuff. Apparently they were right when they chanted, "You're not our rivals."

[Captain Hate]

BOR is such an imbecile. At the time I predicted that All the President's Men would drop journalism even lower by attracting all the "change the world" jackholes who were too dumb to get into law school.

[Jim Eagle]

Before I met Mrs. JiB, I had bought a small farm house on 6 acres of stone fenced ground overlooking Liscarnoor Bay in Lahinch, County Clare, Ireland. I was an overseas member of both Lahinch and Ballybinnion Golf Clubs. It was how I would retire. Golf and solitude. Then when we married we said it would be better here.

Now we both wish I had kept that little place of contempment for an escape.

Ireland and the Irish are okay as long as you avoid politics and stick to golf, beer and Gaelic sports like hurling and football. If you know horses then you're in like Flynn.

[jimmyk]

He was dumbstruck at what a bullying, screaming asshole the man was.

Another dog bites man story about our politicians, DoT.

[narciso]

Can you find a more fitting portrait of ignorant hipster then this drone;

://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2012/11/19/sarah-palin-president/

[narciso]

Sorry, Ben Franklin weeps, at the stupidity;

http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2012/11/19/sarah-palin-president/

[Gus]

Henry, as I recall the only one of us who handled an ELECTRIC instrument was you my man!!! Had fun, we need to do it more often. Lots of laughter!!!

[centralcal]

Golly. Catching up with internet news tonight and aren't those photos of Obama with Aung San Suu Kyi really painful to look at?

[narciso]

Brian '16 credits' Williams, was of that cohort, but he transitioned from Carter administration intern,

[narciso]

He is the Peter Venkman presidency, although the humor is totally unintentional,

[Captain Hate]

Sorry, Ben Franklin weeps, at the stupidity

Par for the course at the Illadelph.

[pagar]

2014 or 2016 elections
controlled by these people aren't going to be any better:

http://hillbuzz.org/what-was-the-cook-county-clerks-office-hiding-on-friday-november-16th-2012?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"I believe that if you didn’t like the results of the November 6th election and you want things to be different in 2014 and 2016, then you have to start doing things differently and becoming more personally involved in what’s happening to our country."

Read more http://hillbuzz.org/what-was-the-cook-county-clerks-office-hiding-on-friday-november-16th-2012?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Threadkiller (Get off your couch and leave the GOP!)]

I noticed on your hillbuzz link, pagar, the RNC isn't mentioned.

Did he not go to them because they are impotent?

[narciso]

Interesting they don't know what John Fund found out, about her;

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/19/3105329_p2/voting-lines-slow-counting-put.html

[narciso]

Ah, like dead fish, it surfaces in my burg;

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/19/3105311/is-rice-cooked.html

[henry]

Heh Gus, true enough. Look forward to next time.

[centralcal]

The headline says that Judge Judy should send this tape to Congress. I think it should go there, for sure, but first a special showing should be held in the CBC.

It makes me want to punch something, before I curse, scream and cry.

Watch it and realize we are surrounded by this attitude.

[Gus]

Narciso, Susan Rice is a tool. Obama used her, and she was a team player. Unfortunately Obama's team is not America's team.
Either Rice willingly lied or Obama suckered her. Either way, she nor Kenyatta Von Jug Ears have told the truth to date. And like clockwork, there is Mizz Rice lying on Hannity. It's sad sick and pathetic, and it clearly indicates what kind of character Obama and Rice have.

[rse]

Jane- I like Dan Hannan and Have read his books. But I think Haidt's book was written at 2 levels. One was the PR element and the other is what he is actually saying all the way through.

But I am also reading it with an unusual background of what is going on at UVa and what UVa is pushing via Robert Pianta. But I read it originally unbiased but curious.

I still think that it is a bomb for conservatives to grab hold of because it wants to push this concept of mind based in emotions. I know it is important to recognize that is the reality most come from but Haidt prefers that.

Dangerous given everything else going on.

[Gus]

Centralcal, I coined 2 terms in the last 4 years. My first was THE FULL COMMIE. The LEFT has gone FULL COMMIE. They will do and say anything SOCIALIST, FASCIST or MARXIST to gain their AIMS. It's been coming at us since Obama's 2008 campaign started. The more crony crap that occurred, and the more power that could be garned by Marxism, AUTO, STUDENT LOANS, FANNIE and FREDDIE, STRINGS ATTACHED TO BAILOUTS, and 4 YEARS OF CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS (NO SENATE BUDGET), the more normal rancid LIBTARDS have come to embrace Obama's Marxism. They FULL COMMIE has been achieved on the LEFT.
The other term I coined unfortunately was SHITCANNED. The MEDIA would bring down any GOP President who had FAST and FURIOUS or BENGHAZI.

[Danube of Thought on IPad]

Oh my. It appears that the once-proud Monsters of the Midway are absorbing a savage drubbing, as we sports scribes are wont to say.

[centralcal]

I like your coinage, Gus. One came to pass, the other awaits the fates.

[narciso]

He follows the Chzvez model, of 'illiberal democracy' in the first four years, they didn't totally 'fundamentally transform' the country,
a natural disaster, many magnitudes greater than Katrina, didn't affect his popularity, the famed April 2002 revolt, was the sort of grass roots
operation, not dissimilar to the Tea Party, yet he exploited it, to curtail the opposition press,
in this case, Globo,

[Jim Ryan]

While Indians at UVA are having an anti-Thanksgiving (via Drudge), I would like to raise awareness of WHAT WAS DONE TO THE GREEK PEOPLE BY THE PERSIANS. 2500 YEARS AGO THE PERSIANS CAME IN THERE AND INVADED GREECE, AND SUBJECTED THE GREEK PEOPLE. IT'S TIME PEOPLE WERE AWARE OF THIS LESS SAVORY PART OF IRANIAN HISTORY INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING ATTENTION TO THE GLAMOROUS PARTS.

WHEN ARE PERSIANS GOING TO PAY REPARATIONS TO GREEKS FOR THE INVASION AND SUBJECTION OF GREECE?! THERE IS. NO. JUSTICE.

Sorry, really worked up about this. I told the Indian students I couldn't make it to their anti-Thanksgiving because I'm going to be working on some posters to get out the word about this awareness-raising I'm working on.

[centralcal]

What is it that narciso frequently likes to lead off with - oh, yeah - Shirley, you can't be serious!

This is one of those things that should be a real hoot!

Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream

Hey @stephenfhayes -this ought to be interesting: Allred to hold DC presser w Jill Kelley's twin to explain "who she really is" See u there?
----

Who she really is? Nah! Waiting with bated breath. /not

[narciso]

Well Airplane, like with the Princess Bride, and Python, is the only proper reference point for this administration, central,

[narciso]

Oh, that Churchill line, comes too readily to mind, central, about 'haggling over price'

[daddy]

Just in from the walk, pop on the TV, and find out that, according to our allies the Turks "Israel is a Terrorist State."

[Gus]

Danube. This drubbing puts the Packers in a tie and technically a first place edge on tie breaker with the Bears. Remember SEATTLE?? The NFL is becoming a joke in some ways.

[centralcal]

no kidding, narciso!

[Gus]

Centralcal. Steve Hayes went to my High School.

[Jim Eagle]

Before I go to bed, one last comment: Dah Bears vaunted defense is wanted not vaunted. That and there OL. Outside of that they are a perfect ensemble of talented losers. How the hell have they won so many games so far this season.

Niters.

[DrJ]

27-0 , 49ers over the Bears; early third quarter. Ouch!

[narciso]

'Becoming, don't enter into it' Gus, there is no rational reason why Goodell still retains his job, so I would say, blackmail must be involved,

[narciso]

Like the Maginot line, JiB,

[Captain Hate]

Another Jason Candle success story.

[DrJ]

CH, did you receive the NorCal JOM list I sent you?

[Gus]

$24 Million per year for Goodell, to be a YES MAN for the owners. And he's married to the lovely and LIBERAL Jane Skinner. She used to be on TV in Milwaukee, and I'd bump into her at the grocery store.

[narciso]

Instances like this, make Ambassador Oren, feel like James Stockdale 'what am I doing here'

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbc-anchor-tells-israeli-ambassador-hamas-rockets-rarely-do-damage/

[Captain Hate]

Affirmative, DrJ.

[Stephanie]

The ACC in all of its glory:

Tech is currently 6-5 (probably 6-6 after this Saturday against UGA) and is playing in the ACC championship game... WTF? And I'm a Tech fan.

It took a second-half resurgence, the fallout of a booster gone wild and Virginia Tech’s worst season since 1992, but Georgia Tech is going to the ACC championship game.

A day after most expected the decision to be made public, Miami announced Monday morning that it will self-impose a postseason bowl ban in anticipation of NCAA sanctions in the wake of an investigation into allegations that Hurricanes booster Nevin Shapiro provided players with thousands of impermissible benefits with the knowledge of coaches. The ACC does not allow bowl-ineligible teams to compete for the ACC championship. As a result, Tech will play Florida State for its third ACC title Dec. 1 in Charlotte. Kickoff will either be 7:45 or 8 p.m., depending on the broadcast outlet, either ABC or ESPN.

The Yellow Jackets’ 42-24 win over Duke Saturday at Bobby Dodd Stadium turned out to be the clincher.

Goodell's bro the ACC commish?

LOL.... Yikes!

LUN

[Captain Hate]

Instances like this, make Ambassador Oren, feel like James Stockdale 'what am I doing here'

Dear God, that anchor is as dumb as she is fat and ugly. Maybe Hamas can lob a few into 30 Rock-bottom-ratings and see how much she likes it.

[Manuel Transmission]

Forgive my not remembering who posted the link to the Russian blogger with the WWII Kodachromes last week, but I followed the link back to his source LUN. When I cruised through the other pix from the same era I ran across this shot:

The shot is of the Mouat Mine in Stillwater Co., MT in 1942. My dad was the fuel supplier for the mine and the reason he never put a uniform on during the war. A year after the war we moved to a ranch in the same area (Nye).

[Gus]

Stephanie, the "Commish" is supposed to get the "impermissible" perks.

[narciso]

Well with this record, why was their any doubt;

http://www.marasonline.net/about.aspx?p=0

[matt]

What is the sound of one hand, Clapper?

[Captain Hate]

The next Diane Sawyer? I think she's got a lock on that.

[Gus]

Narciso, is the next Diane Sawyer, something to be proud of??? If Diane Sawyer was fat, she could be the Flounder character in Animal House.

[Ralph L]

Warner ... He was dumbstruck at what a bullying, screaming asshole the man was.

Really? A former neighbor drove for John & Liz during & after his first election and thought they were nice. Guess they were on their best behavior--and he was 6'4" and well over 200 lbs. He'd played football with most of the white guys in "Remember the Titans" the year before the movie took place. Got a full scholarship to Carolina and blew out his knee freshman year.

[narciso]

Well I try to stick to content and knowledge, Gus, yikes she a Terp (graduate degree)

[Gus]

Narciso. I'm from Maryland. That hurt.

[narciso]

I'm from Jersey, in part, Gus, so you see why I am beyond facepalm, with Christie,

[Gus]

I have a brother who was born in Jersey. Camden of all places. Christie is a good man, but he is a NOREASTER. Most GOPers' are. They are NOT Conservatives. Scott Walker is a Conservative.

[Captain Hate]

yikes she a Terp (graduate degree)

Ouch. So is Steny. Every now and then Admissions misplaces the standards.

[Threadkiller (Get off your couch and leave the GOP!)]

Another good reason to not work on cars:

http://www.kiiitv.com/story/20129267/duval-county-mother-awarded-275-million-dollars-in-lawsuit-against-wal-mart

[narciso]

Three months later, Shirley they can't be serious,

[Gus]

TK, no biggie, it's WAL-MART and the award is OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.

I keep seeing Charleton Heston coming upon the uprooted Statue of Liberty in Planet of the Apes.

[narciso]

'really is that your final answer'

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-petraeus-affair-i-m-reading-papers-you-are_662396.html

[(A) nuther Bub]

Sheesh, I hadn't planned on going to Wal-Mart on Friday, but I guess I will now.

Keeping in mind, of course, that WalMart (and Costco) were huge contributors to Obama and the Dems.

[daddy]

nobody with a sense of right and wrong could object to him testifying.

Heck, I remember 2 years or so back when the Dem's brought in Steven Colbert to testify while pretending that he was some stupid Republican bozo, and they thought that was just wonderful and appropriate.

[narciso]

And Governor Targe't fouls the Minnesota scutcheon, that doesn't enter into it,

[narciso]

That sort of proves the point, daddy,

[narciso]

Had they exiled Pitbull to Anchorage, he wouldn't have been able to put on that last minute rally, in my neck of the woods,

[Gus]

SAFETY. Poor Bears. Poor poor Bears.

I live in Wisconsin.

[Captain Hate]

If anybody ever witnesses me watching Colbert on purpose, check if Kevorkian had somebody take over his practice.

[Gus]

Capn' I've told my band-mates, that if they ever tell anyone that I have Grass Roots greatest hits. I will KILL them.

[narciso]

'the Horror, the Horror' I'm sure someone will spot them 25 points, in the next 4 minutes,