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December 12, 2012


Rob Crawford

You know how to reduce the number of people in jail because of drug offenses?

Don't use illegal drugs. Don't buy illegal drugs.

Guaranteed solution.

Mark Folkestad

He uses "draconian" as if that's a bad thing. I admire Draco the Tyrant, with his death penalty for every infraction, including indolence. No recidivism.


Violent crimes get you in jail preferably with the key thrown away. Non violent crimes should be given community service and restitution sentences. The restitution portion should include lost opportunity costs.

Thomas Collins

Y'all have it wrong. Druggies make for a smoothly functioning society. See LUN for an example.


Here in the Lost Angeles region, the LA Weekly has caused a major stink with the LAPD and the fact that 48% of the 20,000 major traffic accidents in the City of Los Angeles are Hit & Runs.

Unfortunately, the LAPD does not investigate these nor does it keep statistics for these accidents. No crime, no stat.

I think that it has become commonplace today for government to manipulate and spin the stats any way they please to the point that they are now meaningless. Unemployment numbers, incarceration, take your pick. Pretzel logic has taken over.


It's best to refrain from legislating on these issues under the influence of strong emotions. Now that I've had a week and a half to calmly reflect on what should be done with nonviolent offenders like the person who nonviolently entered my house through a door I'd left unlocked and nonviolently walked off with my laptop and brand new smart phone, it's my considered opinion that such people should be ritually set on fire and extinguished every day for a month before getting the claw end of a hammer to the forehead.

Rick Ballard


"Illegal" is such a harsh word. I'm sure the Choomster in Chief would prefer you used "undocumented". What needs to happen is for Bob & Carol & Ted & Fred & Spot & Tiny Tim & Old Paint to file a suit claiming dope to be the central element of the group marriage ceremony by which all were joined in m(p)atrimony (or is that petrimony?). The Supreme Court could then turn over a few penumbrae to find the emanations necessary to fit drug usage, sodomy, polygamy, bestiality & pederasty under the one true umbrella of religious freedom.

What a hall mark of progressive societal advancement that would be.

Danube of Thought on IPad

Can we talk about these damnd "card services" calls? Beaucoup non-violent crimes committed with each call they place, but non-violent or not I'd like theses guys flogged through the fleet if the feds could catch them, which they can't. We're thinking of giving up the landline altogether; over half our calls are unsolicited telemarketing pitches from spoof numbers.

They ought to put the people and technology that led to bin Laden to work on these characters.


I appear to have put this on an old thread, so, pardon the duplication:

Ravi Shankar Live at Monterey remains one of the sweetest albums ever.

On the album, his Dhun (Dadra And Fast Teental) (1998 Digital remaster) ends with a lovely duet with your mind.

Discovered the album in college in the late 1960s.



We're thinking of giving up the landline altogether; over half our calls are unsolicited telemarketing pitches from spoof numbers.

For a personal telephone number at least you can be placed on the "do not call" list, and report those who do not honor that.

It is far worse for a business line. My ratio of junk calls to those at least reasonably business-related runs about 10:1. I'm considering dropping my business line entirely -- it is useless and costs money.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

As bgates's comment makes clear "non violent" is a pretty useless phrase.

OTOH, I have a hard time finding a compelling reason to spend the states' limited resources prosecuting people possessing drugs or using drugs in their own homes.

hit and run

We just dumped our landline. I never answered it anyway -- I mean even if I knew who it was. I hate phones. Well, that's a bit misplaced. The real issue is I hate talking to people. People suck. The poor phone didn't ask to be the vehicle by which I am forced to talk to people; that role was thrust upon it without its consent. In fact, it was thrust thusly by people. People make the phone the conduit of human verbal interaction. I'm telling you, people suck. Especially if you have to talk to them. When you type to them, they're not so bad.

Danube of Thought on IPad

"you can be placed on the 'do not call' list, and report those who do not honor that."

They're way past that. The numbers they use are untraceable spoofs (themselves illegal), and the calls are thought to originate in India and the Caribbean. The FCC (or FTC) is offering a $50K reward for anyone who figures a way to find them. Google this; it's interesting.

Danube of Thought on IPad

Keep in mind that Nanny Bloomberg is very hot to imprison people for two years for the nonviolent crime of unlawful possession of a handgun.


DoT, I keep my landline as a kind of a spam attractor, like the second e-mail address people use for registering things online (though more expensive). I never answer it unless it's from someone I know, I have the ringer off most of our rooms. If I got rid of it I'd have to give out my cell number and it would start getting polluted with junk calls.

James D.

I'm no fan of drugs, and I'm not calling for any kind of legalization.

But I think we do need some sort of "exit strategy" for the War on Drugs. We all talk on here about Leviathan, and the massive (and almost always misused) power of the government.

The government (at all levels) has taken such an increased amount of power and wasted such a massive amount of resources thanks to the War on Drugs that it's almost beyond description.

Aside from the imprisonment rates, there's the militirization of local police departments, the massive increase in SWAT raids, the hugely expanded use of Civil Asset Forfeiture, the terrible power that prosecutors have been given above and beyond what they've traditionally had, and the many restrictions, large in small, to the liberty of law-abiding citizens (whether it's banks reporting on our financial activities, or states deciding that we're not allowed to purchase certain cold medicines anymore, and on and on...).

And all these expansions of government power end up getting used well outside of the War on Drugs - just as every expansion of government grows beyond its intended purpose.

We've done all this, given vast new powers to the police and prosecutors and a whole alphabet soup of federal gencies, spent incalculable sums of money, given up freedoms...and yet we still have a huge drug and crime problem, probably equally as severe as before the War on Drugs really got going.

So what's the point? Other than federal and state bureaucrats, police, prosecutors, and the people who sell them equipment, who really benefits from this madness?


As bgates's comment makes clear "non violent" is a pretty useless phrase.

I think "victimless" is better, though not quite accurate. Going into someone's home and stealing something is a real crime with a victim. Chooming in your basement is not so much.

Ig, in case you missed it in the earlier thread, Happy Birthday!


Agree with James D. It's not just the cost of putting users or small-time "dealers" in prison, it's the huge diversion of police resources away from crimes that are more threatening to law-abiding citizens. I'm not suggesting becoming Amsterdam--there are real costs to having large segments of the population hooked on drugs--but the gestapo tactics (like confiscating homes and cars) are outrageous.


Well at least if those inmates are in California they are getting the best Psychiatric Counseling money can buy:

Mohammad Safi, a graduate of a medical school in Afghanistan, began working as a psychiatrist at a California mental hospital in 2006, making $90,682 in his first six months. Last year, he took home $822,302, all of it paid by taxpayers.

Last year, 16 California psychiatrists, including Safi, made more than $400,000, while only one did in the other 11 most populous states,

Danube of Thought on IPad

It was Jerry Brown, in his first go-round, who first gave CA public employees collective bargaining rights. That act of madness ensured permanent Democratic control of the legislature, and at the same time ensured the state's ultimate bankruptcy.

Captain Hate

Moran family values: http://minx.cc/?post=335625


Nice CH. He walks and society jails home choomers instead.


As Republicans cast about for an agenda, reforming the war on drugs would be a good place to look...

Tom, I must respectfully not only disagree but ask 'what are you smoking?' There are two good reasons why the GOP shouldn't touch this with the proverbial ten foot pole:

Notwithstanding the substantive pros or cons of tweaking the war on drugs, this is simply NOT an issue that is first and foremost on people's minds, it is way, way, way down on the list of important issues to most people. I can probably count on less than one finger the net number of people who would vote GOP if the GOP announced their support of lower sentences for certain classes of criminal. Given the limited airtime available to the GOP, they're better off exploiting an issue that has a bigger fan base.

And to the extent that there are people who think of prisons and crime and so on, inasmuch as they don't think they're going to do anything that would result in their going to jail, they are likely instinctively opposed to the idea of releasing 1/3 of the prison population back into society. I pity the candidate who has to try and argue that it somehow doesn't put law abiding people more at risk if we have fewer criminals in prison.

Mark Folkestad

The Oregon mall shooting will be in a lot of discussions soon. And it brought me a "small world" moment. The male victim, Steve Forsyth, is, I think, my Susan's former brother-in-law.

James D.

CH, at least he didn't drive her off a bridge and leave her to drown.

By the usual standards of Dem politican's treatment of women, a broken nose and skull fracture is like getting roses and abox of chocolates.


We have criminalized too many things.
We shouldn't be incarcerating people for victimless crimes.
We should have much shorter sentences for non-violent criminals

I'd like to see an experiment where a prosecutor's office charges only what they reasonably think they can win and refuses to settle before trial
unless on the basis of newly discovered evidence. (We waste too much money on silly prosecutions, overcharging and needless court and jury efforts.)


Concerning mandatory sentencing, I've got an idea for a made for TV Christmas movie:

Christmas in Alaska: A disgruntled cargo pilot with 2 yellow labs rescues Santa during a long walk and makes the jolly elf grant his wish. Instantly the US Capital and White House are transported to Fairbanks, where the instant the politicians turn on their heat they are arrested for violating EPA Clean Air Standards, and they all have to sit in jail for a month watching nothing but the made for TV Christmas movies that are on my TV channel line up today:

The Christmas Choir: A run in with a homeless man inspires a recently dumped workaholic to organize a choir at a local shelter with help from a nun (Rhea Perlman).

Christmas Song: Two music teachers face off in a Christmas Carol competition while also vying for a job after their schools and music departments merge.

The Ultimate Christmas Present: Two L.A. teens stir up trouble when they find Santa's Weather-Making Machine and use it to start a snowstorm.

The Wishing Tree: A lonely teacher works with a group of troubled students over the Holidays to help make the town's Wishing-Tree fundraiser a success.

The Christmas Heart: Neighbors realize their Christmas tradition of lighting luminaries could help a teen receive a heart transplant.

The Christmas Card: A soldier overseas receives a moving Christmas card from a stranger and decides to track down Ed Asner upon his return.

Christmas Do-Over: A disgruntled divorce' spends the same awful holiday with his ex-wife while he figures out how to get his life back on track.

Trading Christmas: A widow and a writer swap homes for the Holidays...they each meet potential love interests in their new digs.

A Town Without Christmas: Romance blossoms for a workaholic reporter and a frustrated children's author as they seek a child who wrote a grim letter to Santa.

Finding John Christmas: Valerie Bertinelli stars in a holiday heart tugger...

Christmas Magic: A new angel must earn her wings by helping a depressed widower save his struggling restaurant...

A Christmas Wedding Tale: A widowed museum curator finds love with a single dad thanks to matchmaking by their dogs.

Most Wonderful Time Of Year: A disenchanted single mom warily welcomes Henry Winkler into her home, whose enthusiasm foe Christmas proves contagious.

Santa Clause 3 The Escape Clause...

All I Want For Christmas: Two children try to reconcile their divorced parents over Christmas.

All She Wants for Christmas: A disgruntled struggling widower...

The Missile-Tones: Tori Spelling auditions for a Christmas singing group but loses to a less talented singer. She then starts her own singing group...

Christmas Every Day: A disenchanted teen who thinks Christmas is ho-ho-hum has a Holiday awakening! He discovers he's living Christmas Day over and over again.

Christmas List: Mimi Rogers plays a perfume saleswoman whose life stinks until she drops her Christmas wish list into some pot somewhere and all her wishes start to come true...



If you're a grandparent of an older teen or young adult,beware the grandma/grandpa I'm in jail scam.This scam was traced to bogus call centers in Canada.My m-i-l was (almost) a victim of this scam.The fake grandson called her and said "Nana,I lost my wallet,I need money!" He asked her not to tell his parents,please send the money.He really played on her emotions,which is weird,because the real grandson is her favorite,so she almost got scammed.She asked him "where are you?" He said Europe and she knew real grandson was not in Europe.Fake grandson got an earful from Nana!
Older people are victims of scams like this because they are vulnerable targets.


Very funny, daddy!

Mark Folkestad

Daddy, I love your list. But is there really a LESS talented singer than Tori Spelling?

Marlene, someone hacked my niece's Facebook account and sent messages to everyone on her friend list, claiming to be stranded in London after a thief stole her purse with cash, cards, passport, driver's license and airline tickets in it. There was a request to wire money to an account that was supposedly her hotel's. Surprisingly, a few people bit. Of course, Bonny was in St. Paul, blissfully unaware of the furor.

NJ Jan

Speaking of the justice system, I just returned from a partial day of jury duty. The term for the county I live in is 2 days or one trial. The judge filled the jury my panel was called for and the jury mgr thanked us for our service and dismissed us after lunch. Short duty. Since my son in law is a police officer, the odds of my being selected for a criminal case were pretty slim. Another woman there works for Elizabeth police dept. She has been rejected every time she has has jury duty. In NJ police and dept workers are not exempt from jury duty but teachers are. That makes no sense to me.


In NJ police and dept workers are not exempt from jury duty but teachers are. That makes no sense to me.

Probably a sop to the teachers' union. I can see that it's disruptive for a teacher to be out during the school year, but there are three months of the year when that's not an issue. In NY, at least, if you get called, you can postpone once and give an alternate time frame when you are available.


MarkF...the creepy thing is that fake grandson called her Nana and seemed to know exactly what to say.He messed with the wrong Nana!

NJ Jan

Absolutely JimmyK. Also, the school systems in NJ have substitute teacher lists to draw on so there is very little class disruption.

From the short time I was there and talking to staff, the court system is clogged and way behind in scheduling. It apparently has really become a nightmare.


Now that the Gov. of PA has refused to set up an Obamacare exchange, does anyone have a current count of states he joins?

James D.

Nothing to see here, move along:

U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez employed as an unpaid intern in his Senate office an illegal immigrant who was a registered sex offender, now under arrest by immigration authorities, The Associated Press has learned. The Homeland Security Department instructed federal agents not to arrest him until after Election Day, a U.S. official involved in the case told the AP.

If it were a Republican Senator, this would be the lead story on the network news tonight. Does anyone seriously doubt that?

Melinda Romanoff

To emphasize jimmyk's landline take, I maintain two lines, for the sole reason that it still has cold war technology, aka it's own power source, and will operate even if the power's out.

Not giving it up.


Patrick Moran is lucky he's not one of Sarah Palin's kids. The screaming headlines & late night jokes would never end.

Melinda Romanoff

Patrick Moran might not have survived that incident were it to have happened here. Baby Blues don't cotton to that, unless you're a Daley.

Dave (in MA)

Timmy the Treasurer (no, not THAT one, the other one) isn't going to have to wear an orange jumpsuit. http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/12/12/cahill/QPx2Scc5FRjcgXVAXCIOBI/story.html
This, despite the fact that he was obviously (IMO) guilty, but probably (also IMO) overcharged. While Treasurer, he ran for Governor while running an ad blitz for his campaign using Lottery Commission funds under the guise of advertising the Lottery, even though ads like that didn't run before or since.

Melinda Romanoff


Isn't that what taxpayer money is for?

Charlie (Colorado)

Don't use illegal drugs. Don't buy illegal drugs.

And if drugs were legalized, no one would.

Any other silly tautologies we could exercise this afternoon?


Tori Spelling singing.

I'd reserve this punishment only for the criminals in Solitary Confinement.


I'm sorry but that whole AskMen list where they put the new Bond Girl, at 99th, is a borderline
misdemeanor. Now Charlie, I would amend that, if there were no cultural drivers, as such manifested itself from the 60s on, there wouldn't be such a drug epidemic,

Rob Crawford
Any other silly tautologies we could exercise this afternoon?

If people don't like the law, they can work on changing the law.

We're supposed to be a nation of laws, governed by laws. You break the laws, you get punished. Maybe you're breaking the law intentionally to draw attention to their injustice, but you still pay the penalty.

Don't want to pay the penalty? Can't get the law changed?

Then don't break the law.


link to James D's Senator Menendez story -

Senate intern, a sex offender, faces deportation

There's this about Aunt Zeituni there too.

"In that case, the Homeland Security Department had imposed an unusual directive days before the 2008 election requiring high-level approval before federal agents nationwide could arrest fugitive immigrants including Zeituni Onyango, the half-sister of Obama's late father. The directive from ICE expressed concerns about "negative media or congressional interest," according to a copy of that directive obtained by AP. The department lifted the immigration order weeks later."

How sketchy is the Homeland Security Dept!?!?


I just returned from a partial day of jury duty.

NJ Jan,

Local news says that the scam going on up here is that scammers call up and say, in a very official sounding voice, that you missed your Jury Duty session and that you are now subject to criminal penalty for not reporting for mandatory Jury Duty. The flustered mark then proclaims innocence, stating no notice was ever received of the Jury summons. The scammer then tries to get the mark to give up his/her social security number as he pretends to go thru his paperwork stack to verify if he has the correct caller on the line.

Once they have that number, apparently they can rob you blind via credit cards, etc.

James D.

Rob, that's all true. But there are a couple of assumptions there - that the laws are, on some basic level, more-or-less rational and reasonably fair...and that the people enforcing them are basically honest and obey the laws themselves.

Without those things - and I don't know about you, but I can't honestly say that I believe either of them is remotely true today - there really isn't a rule of law at all.


If it were a Republican Senator, this would be the lead story on the network news tonight. Does anyone seriously doubt that?

I was about to object on the grounds that it would have been the lead story a month and a half ago, but after further consideration I think it would have broken as the lead story in October yet it would still be the lead story tonight.


I am with Mel on the land line in case of power outtages. I still remember the NOLA Katrina coverage - people without phones for days and yet, this one little elderly lady was able to call for help (when her food finally ran out).

Rescuers were asked how she was able to make a phone call when almost no one else could - she had an old style telephone connected to a land line. After watching her on the news I went into my Salvation Army donation pile and drug out an old "Princess Phone" which I put away in my linen closet - just in case I need it some day.

NJ Jan


I can see where people would get flustered and believe the jury duty scam although paying over the phone isn't logical if you are thinking clearly. I haven't heard anything about it in this area, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening. Most people also have no idea how the court and jury system works and so are easy to scam


If it wasn't covered, and few people saw it;



This is the only scam I've read about recently -

A 'heads up' for those men who may be regular Home Depot customers. This one caught me by surprise.

Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends.

Here's how the scam works:
Two seriously good-looking 20-21 yr old girls come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into the trunk. They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. Its impossible not to look. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say 'No' and and instead ask you for a ride to McDonald's.

You agree and they get in to the back seat. On the way, they start undressing. Then one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts crawling all over you,while the other one steals your wallet.
I had my wallet stolen December 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, and again on the 17th, 20th, 24th &29th. Also January 1st & 4th. Twice on the 8th, again on the 16th, and 20th, two times yesterday and very likely again this upcoming weekend.

So tell your friends to be careful.
P.S. Wal* Mart has wallets on sale for 2.99.


And certainly, a coverup if not a crime;



I'm going to Home Depot ASAP. errr for some windshield wipers!


Janet, that's either a lot of home improvement, or a plumbing project.


it still has cold war technology, aka it's own power source, and will operate even if the power's out.

Pretty sure I read somewhere recently that AT&T was contemplating abandoning that technology and switching to VOIP. Something about the cost of maintaining it. And doesn't cell service usually continue to work if there's a power outage?





I guess to answer my own question, depends how vast the outage is. If the local cell towers are out, you're sunk.


that whole AskMen list where they put the new Bond Girl, at 99th, is a borderline misdemeanor.

Up here we don't use such crass methods as looks and popularity to find our top women. We instead use a "Fitness" competition: Talkeetna Wilderness Woman Contest

!) The first round: three or four women at a time run 100 yards with empty buckets to a ‘creek’, and return the same distance with full buckets.

2) The second round: women are asked to prepare a sandwich and open a beer for a lounging bachelor, and then head out into the ‘woods’. The five finalists must put on snowshoes, and move from field to stream while shooting a latex ‘ptarmigan’, sawing a small piece off of a birch round, snagging a salmon, and evading a lonely ‘moose’.

3) Round Three: Each woman must fill a sled with split wood, then tow it by snow machine and feed the wood into a bonfire

More pix.

hit and run

Up here we don't use such crass methods as looks and popularity to find our top women. We instead use a "Fitness"

So, "the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete" is an actual thing.


Some things, once seen, cannot be unseen, in the further travesties of a sham, Rose Byrne #83, did they not see X Men Origins, or even the dim
gal from Upper Darby, at # 80, that's not fair either,


I have been to Talkeetna daddy.

Some of the roughest looking people I have ever seen were in the bakery for morning breakfast.

There's a lunch place with a courtyard on a side street with all sorts of pictures of various Denali/McKinley climbs.

My kids enjoyed those a lot. And somehow everyone had to get the pooping moose keychain souvenir. But me. I thought it was tacky.


On Drudge - Monkey should have 'right to choose' where he lives...

Sure, but that damn monkey absolutely HAS to join a Union!!

hit and run

Does that monkey carry a tiny Obama-god idol in his pocket?


Hahahaaahaha, hit!! Too funny!


Hit@5:11-- heh.. HEH


"the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete"


Just came across this 1956 Chiropractic Beauty Contest for Miss Straightest Spine:

Check out the Lumbars on the gal in the middle. Wow'sa!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Janet, that's either a lot of home improvement, or a plumbing project.

Posted by: JeanD | December 12, 2012 at 04:42 PM--

Speaking of which, anybody seen the Liquid Plumber Double Impact Commercial where one hunk shows up to "snake her drain" and the other one to "flush her pipes" complete with trashy music and a Barry White-like narrator?

I doubt I'd be confused with a prude by anyone but it sure seems over the top and way too suggestive for TV to me.

Jim Eagle

The obligatory Bob Beckel is a Thug and Idiot post.


A soldier overseas receives a moving Christmas card from a stranger and decides to track down Ed Asner

I have an idea to take that premise in a somewhat different direction than the original.

A disenchanted single mom warily welcomes Henry Winkler into her home

Sounds like some kind of wary Winkler welcomer. The woman warily welcomes Winkler.

Reading through that list and this thread gives me an idea for a new holiday picture, "Just One Christmas": A disgruntled divorce' (me) has his Christmas shopping for replacements for his stolen stuff interrupted by getting peed on by a jackass mall Santa (Ed Asner) and shoves the claw end of a hammer through his forehead. He spends the night in jail where he learns the Real Meaning of Christmas from an illegal alien serial rapist (Rhea Perlman playing butch) who had been Chief of Staff for a local Congressman before his arrest. Then it turns out that the divorcee is the long-lost nephew of the Congressman (Henry Winkler), so the stabbing murder gets pled down to a misdemeanor Failure to Yield. Then he spends New Year's Eve with two 20-year old girls who rub themselves all over him when they learn he killed a guy (this could be played by most of the hot 20 year old girls in Florida). Guest starring a monkey in a coat.

Thomas Collins
"way too suggestive for TV"

When a regular TV ad is more titillating than a Denise Milani video, selling it with eroticism is on the verge of becoming boring.

Jim Eagle


Is the Congressman Alan Grayson? BTW, is he your representative in Hell now?

Jane - Mock the Media!

Don't want to pay the penalty? Can't get the law changed?

Then don't break the law.

I would agree with you except under this administration they ignore laws for some, create laws for some and have utterly arbitrary penalties. So I'm not feeling as law abiding as I used to.


Yes, one feels a like Blutowski some times;


Dave (in MA)


I think Instapundit is observing Iggy's B-day.

Jim Eagle


This was fast - Buyer's Remose already

I have news for you suckers. You get what you vote for. Enjoy the next four years.

Captain Hate

By the usual standards of Dem politican's treatment of women, a broken nose and skull fracture is like getting roses and abox of chocolates.

Kennedy foreplay.

Jim Eagle


Did I ever tell you about my Dad? He lived in Fairbanks during construction of the Aleyeska pipeline. He was one of the top managers. He had retired from the Air Force and they put him in charge of logistics. Spent 3 years up there. Travelled the route every month. I came up for one Christmas and it was spectacular as you must know due to lack of back light off the earth. We flew up to a few pumping stations to check on them Did you know that choppers can freeze up in the winter:)

Captain Hate

And certainly, a coverup if not a crime

Top Men should emerge with their togas unstained.

Captain Hate

Whoa did somebody not feed the hamsters?

narc I've started watching the first season of Burn Notice. After 2 episodes I can see why you enjoy it.


Beautiful bgates!

May I suggest you add in the mandatory lovable dog scene. Let's say 2 yellow labs tear Tori Spelling to mincemeat as she starts singing a Christmas Carol, and the monkey runs off with her coat.



JiB, I dodged a bullet there. The redistricting moved me into the safe territory of John Mica (R), who will enter his 21st year in Congress in January.


That monkey in the IKEA store is hilarious.Speaking of wildlife...last night,while driving into Bangor,a woman hit a house cat.She was so upset she stopped and put the injured cat into her car.By the time she got into Bangor,she realized the animal was not a house cat,it was a bobcat! A policeman saw her parked in front of Bangor City Hall with all the doors of her car open,to let the "cat" escape.The policeman called a game warden who determined the bobcat was so injured it needed to be euthanized.


Glad to know that, Captain, in the crime for them, and punishment for us, the yutzes that gave Gov. Cuomo his highest approval rating for
Hurricane Sandy,


Oh, Lord love a duck;


Frau Steingehirn

Any other silly tautologies we could exercise this afternoon?

Chaco manages to insert "exercise" into his remark after letting us know at the Tattler that he needs a heavier kettlebell.
(In Goldilocks fashion, *my* kettlebell is just right. I just need to use it regularly.)


we must be getting towards the shortest day of the year because the stories are getting weirder and weirder. I can't wait for the depths of February when the Talkeetna Flashlight War Festival takes place.

With entrants like the ones daddy LUN's to, that would be something right out of The Shining.

I understand that every year they re-enact the Great Train Robbery of Nineteen and 36 as well and make the tourists on their way up North stand in the train station in their long johns.

If I ever figgered out how to load a photo into one of these hyere boxes I have some great pics of Talkeetna.


I'm only into real, hard news.
For example, the story on Yahoo's front page, about TRACK PALIN getting divorced.

That's hard hitting Edward R Murrow stuff.

Jim Miller

NJ Jan - When I was the second person -- after the policeman -- tossed off a jury in Seattle, I took that as a compliment.

Rob Crawford
Rob, that's all true. But there are a couple of assumptions there - that the laws are, on some basic level, more-or-less rational and reasonably fair...and that the people enforcing them are basically honest and obey the laws themselves.

Not assumed at all. That's why there's the allowance for civil disobedience.

Listen, if you want to be protected by the law, you have to be willing to obey the law and to take the penalty if you don't.

And, yeah, if things are really so bad, there's the option of rebellion. But keep in mind that the Founders didn't expect that, had they lost, they'd be given a pat on the back and a "nice try" -- they expected they'd be hanged.

Excepting the marginal cases of police or prosecution abuse, everyone in prison for a drug crime is there because they either assessed their greed or their lust for being high as higher value than the risk they'd be caught, prosecuted, and imprisoned. They knew what they were doing was illegal, but kept at it.

It's a fair argument whether the penalties are proper and if there's a better way to deal with drugs. But the people who made the choice to get involved in drugs already? They exercised their free will; it would be wrong to deny them the fruit of their choices, no matter how bitter it is.


I know you are busy but can you explain the train problem math to me? i always had problems with word math questions and trains leaving at different times.


They say these folks are mostly led by Iraqi AQ, barry's gifts just keep giving,



I know consider the source, but they have the most comprehensive breakdown I've seen;



Meanwhile, yet another benefit concern, for Hurricane Relief, I thought Cuomo and 'Chrispy'
had resolved the whole thing, it doesn't even seem like they tried to fix the situation,


Gee Narciso, they had the photo ops. What more can a governor do?


OTOH, the trailer for Del Toro's 'Pacific Rim' looks good, then again, that's what we thought about 'Battleship'.


Rachel Weisz, still arounf # 70, in the list,



It is from Anthony Daniels, Dalrymple, on what the dole has done to the mentality of the British.

Hard to forget as we ramp up food stamps and make unemployment perpetual and I keep reading these plans of educating for dependency.


She has sort of the same understated humor as we do;


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