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December 11, 2012

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henry

Well, punching Crowder and collapsing the AFP tent are a start. Have they occupied the Capitol building & trashed it? Put nails on Republican legislators' driveways? Assaulted legislators attempting to get to work? Chained their necks to the chamber railings? Stormed & trashed legislative offices? Picketed the govenors' private home with a brass band and honking cars 24/7? It's a big to-do list for union thugs, but these MI guys are way behind where the WI thugs were at this point. (I concede Trumka and Hoffa got the death threats in ahead of schedule).

PD in Detroit, lock & load and stay safe!

Sue

PD in Detroit, lock & load and stay safe!

Amen!

Porchlight

Definitely the flip side of having a business-friendly climate and a light tax burden - jerky libs will come as well as the people you want.

Sue

Hannity has this woman on his radio show so turned around. Pretty sad. Pro-choice if you want to kill a baby, but not pro-choice about joining a union. Which is why I refuse to call pro "choice" anything but what it is...pro abortion.

twitter.com/apple4ever

Here's Chris Pronger of the Flyers being hit in the face with a stick. This is one tough mofo and his voice was pretty high.

narciso

The last fellow on the list, midway down the page, is the culprit in the Crowder matter;


http://lrionline.com/tag/ibew

narciso

I know you're 'shocked that gambling was going on there' as well;

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/it_mosque_rade_E4bLtxvo3yIwrCnYm1fRLP

Danube of Thought on IPad

Jeez Sue, then I guess you missed seeing those cute letterman's jackets the Texans unveiled before the biggest game in franchise history. Just adorable. I mean they even had the players' numbers on the sleeves just like the one in my closet from the '57 Islanders.

Rob Crawford

How USA Today is describing union thug violence:

Outside, Michigan State Police donned their riot gear as peaceful protests became testy.
marlene

I've been a bit shy about mentioning this,but...Christmas,New Year's my birthday and our anniversary are a blur of dates between 12/25 and 1/11. We usually do one big "gift". After the election,we discussed what could we do to be proactive.I told my husband,I want to learn how to safely and responsibly learn how to handle a gun. So,my Christmas,birthday and anniversary gift is to spend a eight hour session at the Sig Sauer Academy in N.H. Our daughter was distraught over the thought that I was going to own a gun,but I explained to her that its not about the gun,its about our rights.

Sue

DoT

The Texans? You think I care about those stinkin' Texans?

Janet

Good for you, marlene!

Old Lurker

Even YL if she is reading does not know that Grandfather Lurker (YL's GGF) owned the mines in southern WV that John L Lewis targeted in the 30's and I recall stories from my mother of hiding under her bed when the armed miners confronted the armed union guys at Grandfather's property line. So we know all about such tactics in the lore of Lurker history.

Recently my brother came upon a bunch of photographs from those days, and boy was that a rough and tumble time even here in the east!

Rob Crawford

Via Ace:

White House spokesman Jay Carney declined to condemn the increasing violence and threats by union members in Michigan, merely telling reporters Tuesday that “the president believes in debate that’s civil.” When asked by a reporter about a claim by Michigan state Democrat that “there will be blood” should Republicans pass a union-choice law in Michigan, Carney professed ignorance and then downplayed the comment.

“I haven’t see those comments, and I’m not sure they mean what someone interprets them to mean,” he said.

No comment, because I cannot make a comment that would not involve a stream of profanity and calls to violence.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Strikes and organizing campaigns were serious business in WVA, OL. As I recall, Hatfields and McCoys had nothing on some of the strikers up there. I believe Clarice worked on some case involving the Yablonski murders, but I don't remember the details. She was on the Yablonski family's side IIRC.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Obvious followup for that twerp Carney. "WTF DO THEY MEAN DICKWAD" (Apologies to Gus)

Clarice

Yes, the hit men were hired by the Union President and District head..they were fromHarlan Ky, hope of some of the worst labor violence in American history, Jim.

Janet

How USA Today is describing union thug violence:

Outside, Michigan State Police donned their riot gear as peaceful protests became testy.

Unbelievable after the slander organized by the CBC & McClatchy about the March 20, 2010 Kill The Bill rally

Frau Tom Green und Lamar

Hey! I was born in CA and lived here before it was invaded by folks from "back east" who made our streets unsafe and brought short tempers with them. I hope these are the people who are leaving although I doubt it. Look what happened to Colorado. As I remember, it was mostly San Francisco jerks who moved to the Seattle area and ruined it.

Sue, my mother and father were Texans. Does that give me a kind of right of return? I eat all the right food, too. ::hope-a-hope::

Clarice

*hoMe* I am reallytired and the holiday season isjust starting.

Ralph L

In college, a few of us put "Druid" in the "other" category. Never got an invite to that group, though
You could have shared your Stonehenge Oatmeal Soup recipe.

narciso

This spells out the details of the case;

http://federal-circuits.vlex.com/vid/richard-weaver-mine-boyle-36779399

Actually it's right up their Minitrue line, Janet

matt

The hostory of the union movement in this country is fascinating. From Haymarket to the Pittsburgh strikes and the massacres along the way it was one of violence on both sides. Joe Hill, the IWW, Debs and the Socialists and the Farmers & Workers party all had legitimate grievances and the barons were quite willing to use deadly force.

We forget that the country has been through multiple crises and has somehow survived. The latest is so bad because it is so deceptive and dishonest. Obama and his crew are undermining the bacic principles of fairness, transparency, and the Constitution in their desire for a statist, crony capitalist society.

narciso

The guys from South Park did have his number;

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/12/11/matt-damon-unaware-promised-land-funding?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BreitbartFeed+%28Breitbart+Feed%29

Old Lurker

Lots of cross pollination between the southern WV clans and the eastern KY folks as you know Clarice and Jim. Sturdy stock to be sure. Did not suffer fools back then.

Decades later my brother had a summer job delivering bundles of papers for the Charleston newspaper which wasa fighting with their union at the time. When he came home with a bullet hole in the truck window my Mother made him quit.

He's a lawyer now so maybe Mom should have let him be.

gmax

Being a card carrying a member of the UAW ( forced to join at 18 for a summer job and you never technically leave ) I have to say that the union bears a huge responsibility for the mess that Detroit and Michigan have become. Unions and Democrats have made Detroit unlivable and ungovernable. Own it.

Jane - Mock the Media!

Now, however, it is worth it to him to take the country over the fiscal cliff rather than do precisely that.

And he can be confident that no one will ever mention his hypocrisy - and how much he loves the Bush tax cuts and on and on and on.


I don't think I'll ever get over Holder's motto: "Race first".

WE are toast. And there is nothing we can do about it.

Jane - Mock the Media!

I wonder if the guy firing 60 shots at a Portland Or Mall is a union guy.

maryrose

henry:
Your comments about what those Wisconsin union members did are just incredible. I can't believe with unions there always has to be violence. Carney is a real jerk if he thinks this kind of behavior in Michigan is a plus for Bammy. It is right out of the thugs -r-us playbook.No wonder Bammy is probably reveling in it.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Somewhere in a dusty box in the basement is a petition I filed in Superior Court in middle Georgia with affidavit attached authenticating photos of bullet holes in the homes of workers who chose to continue working during a wildcat strike. I hired a private (armed) security firm to accompany my professional photographer and me to the damaged homes. The judge took one look and granted a TRO ex parte. It was not appealed, and there was no more violence. A subsequent damage suit against the union yielded a pretty good settlement as well.

maryrose

Jane:
I also find that motto of Holder's appaling.I do think we can do things to protect ourselves and I am sure that the pendulum has swung pretty far left and in due course will swing back. I think people have to really feel this recession and finally wake up to the kind of lack of leadership they voted back in.I am fascinated by Jersey politics at this time. Booker running against Christie-we know how that will end. I say Christie should run for Lautenburg's seat in 2014.I am sure he could win it.

pagar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCx6Fh6hXO0

Patty Loveless sings a really great:
"You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
One of many songs that came out of the coal mines and labor troubles.

henry

GMax, is was card carrying UAW at 18 for a summer job as well. Chrysler shut down our plant that fall (too many wildcat strikes) and moved production to MI. The members were a tough group, but they let us probationary guys in during the wildcats so we couldn't be fired. Only one guy died that summer on my shift (went through the paint drying oven in a van, -- "accidentally").

narciso

Well you have your share of like minded officials right Henry,


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/11/Lansing-Mayor-Tells-Mob-I-Am-Proud-Of-You-As-City-Erupts-In-Chaos

henry

They didn't even change the chants Narciso.

Jane - Mock the Media!

Fascinating Jim, I bet that was interesting as hell.

narciso

It does feel like Ground Hog Day, except without Andy McDowell.

Sue

Frau

I don't know if that makes you a NBC of Texas or not. There are tests you have to pass.

Janet

Look at this madness - 526,421 family farms threatened by new death tax

Our federal government is gonna destroy these family farms & ranches that produce our food. Penalize the family businesses that invested in growing their business generation after generation. It is madness. 55% tax!....these farms & ranches will have to sell off their property to pay the taxes.
and for what? So DC can buy off voters with Obamaphones & condoms, or renovate mosques overseas, or waste billions giving money to who-the-hell knows in the Pigford scam?
Will the 55% tax apply to ALL inheritance & property?
Will the Kennedy fortune that is in offshore trusts be taxed at 55%?
How about big piles of money or property that aren't passed down through inheritance?...land donated to environmental groups...will that be taxed at 55% ever? or the never ending list of foundations...do they ever have to turn over 55% of their money?

maryrose

Janet:
I share your frustration and anger. This is so unfair. These farmers aren't rich. They are middle class people who are going to take the hit. I hope this can be reversed in 2016.

narciso

And who ends up buying that farm, an outfit like Soros, through some front company, or some well connected crony like Archer Daniels

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

I loved the work, Jane. But my wife was in a perpetual state of fear especially after the anxiety of living through my Vietnam tour. I eventually decided my marriage was more important to me than the challenge of the work.

The good news is I started my own firm as a result, and though my work was not (quite) as exciting, it was financially and professionally rewarding. And after raising five adopted daughters, we celebrated our 45th Anniversary in October. I now know the Lord led me to the right decision, although at the time, I wasn't so sure.

Rob Crawford

Joe Hill, the IWW, Debs and the Socialists and the Farmers & Workers party all had legitimate grievances and the barons were quite willing to use deadly force.

And that has no bearing on the events of the last fifty years, let alone the last ten. The unions today are the robber barons, particularly the public sector unions. They are corrupt, corrupting, and violent.

boatbuilder

So a majority of voters in Michigan voted for a legislature and governor who support right-to-work. Following the lead of our esteemed president and his lapdog media, doesn't that mean that the other side--i.e., the unions--are supposed to put up, shut up, and expect their democrat legislators to meekly compromise with whatever the majority wants? This is pure democracy, right? What 51% want goes. So pipe down, boys. Otherwise someone might think you were as insane, destructive and divisive as those horrible Tea Party types.

narciso

Well you know that's not the same, boatbuilder, because 'Koch', and other Squirrels,

centralcal

Well, I was born in Texas (in the panhandle - Borger, my brother too, my sister was born in Dallas - same hospital where Kennedy was taken when shot.) Didn't move to California until before my 5th birthday, so I am technically a native daughter of that great state.

Just in case I have to bunk with Sue when the revolution breaks out, I want to establish my bona fides early.

Sue

C

Good enough. However I will need to see the original birth certificate to prove it.

narciso

The NCIS episode with both Gibbs and Fornell's exwife was pretty good though,

Sue

Narciso

It was.

Janet

Where & when is the next huge Tea Party rally?

Taxed ENOUGH Already!!!

Rob Crawford

I was kinda shocked at the NCIS/Doctor Who crossover a couple of weeks ago.

centralcal

Sue: Perfect. I have two! Only in Texas could you have a story like this one.

I was flying on a private jet with a rich boyfriend who owned a fabulous home on the beach in Cabo San Lucas and I didn't have a passport. (Shush, Clarice - I led a very sheltered and USA bound life). So, my Mama tells me the county I was born in and I give 'em a call for a copy of my birth certificate. It came very promptly - first name, middle name, last name - but it wasn't me, wasn't my parents, and I was 10 years younger! (Yes, you bet your sweet bippy I am hanging on to that BC at my age!)

So, I had to call 'em again before I received the correct birth certificate. (I really hope TK isn't lurking and reading this story!)

So, I can prove to Ms. Sue twice - that I was born in Hutchison or Hutchinson or some such county in Texas. Don't want to go dragging out the original(s) to check the spelling. lol.

Sue

My granddaughter is now a first degree blue belt. Marching towards black belt. Grandson is now officially a yellow belt. No more Little Dragon. :(

Clarice

Don't letTK know about that CC.

Sue, I ain't never gonna mess with you now tat you have your own private ninja guards.

Sue

Hutchinson.

narciso

Does this seem like a particularly large crowd?


http://twitchy.com/2012/12/11/pics-reports-union-goons-protest-right-to-work-vote-in-lansing-mich-riot-police-on-scene/

Sue

Clarice

I didn't think of it like that. My daughter and son in law are now green belts. My own private army. ::grin::

centralcal

Somehow, Sue sweetie, I KNEW you would know that county, so I figured I'd better get one of the danged spellings right! Gawd I love you.

Clarice whisper and maybe TK won't see these comments.

Sue

I love you too C.

centralcal

No Narc. Just a bunch of mafioso thugs (probably mostly from the teacher's unions, who are proud of their 7% able to read in the 8th grade!).

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--And after raising five adopted daughters, we celebrated our 45th Anniversary in October.--

Wow, and congratulations, Jim.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Sue, I ain't never gonna mess with you now tat you have your own private ninja guards.--

I was thinking we need a cage match between the Wolverine and MiniSue.

Sue

Minisue is not like her Nana. She is like my daughter. Lovable. Sweet. Doesn't like to hurt anyones feelings. The grandson takes after his Nana.

Sue

C

Ever heard of Ron White? He is from Hutchinson. They call him Taters Salad.

Sue

Tater

Jane on I

Jim,

It sounds like you got it just right!

narciso

I remember that bit from his standup act, the police officer asks him, 'do you have any aliases' and that's his answer,

centralcal

Oh, gosh no, Sue. Should I google him?

DrJ

Ron White is very funny -- just don't expect high-brow humor.

centralcal

Thanks for the tip, Narc - okay, I googled him, Sue. A comedian! Good for him - wiki says he was born in Fritch, TX - guess I will have to google that too. lol.

Clarice

Washington Examiner:
n MSNBC this afternoon, Rev. Jesse Jackson called for workers across the nation to hold a major one day strike in protest of the new ‘right-to-work’ laws that passed in Michigan today. “I never thought it would go this far north,” a disappointed Jackson said about the right-to-work movement. “And, yet, these workers in this state must fight back and draw a line in the sand.” Jackson called for a “major strike,” and a “major march on Washington.” “It’s time for a massive, dissident, direct action to bring about the ship in the flow of the wind,” he added.
*************


Bastard.

centralcal

Excuse me, Clarice but I have one little edit:

Stupid Bastard!

narciso

Jackson was the other preacher, besides Reverend Wright, who stayed at a DGI safehouse in 1984,

narciso

I think the CAve metaphor doesn't fit this mendacity;


http://patterico.com/2012/12/11/union-thugs-assault-steven-crowder-in-michigan-lefties-blame-the-victim/

Sue

C

You should google his you tube of tater salad. He tells the story of getting thrown out of a bar in NY.

Sue

Hes part of the Blue Comedy tour with Jeff foxworthy.

Gus

Jesse Jacksoff. Has illegitimate child.

Typical libtard.

narciso

Well he is quite frank, on quite a few points;


White is known for drinking Scotch as part of his act. He stated during his You Can't Fix Stupid show, "Somebody asked what I was drinking. If the company that made the stuff I was drinking was paying me, I'd have it in their bottle and not mine. But it's the kind of scotch that people drink that are going to die penniless. It's good though!"[7]

DrJ

Yeah, White slowly gets toasted on Scotch and smokes up a storm in some very nice performing venues. The jokes get better as the Scotch level goes up.

I would never want to live with the man, but on stage he is very good.

Janet

I wonder if the WaPo will start running stories about how wonderful union protests are like they did with OWS! The Style section full of articles on their message & edginess. They are just delightful!

Tea Party - scum, dangerous, racist, evil
OWS & Union thugs - wonderful, important message, engaged,...maybe a little testy but their cause is just.

Sue

DrJ

One of the funniest stories he tells is when he and his wife rent a scooter.

Gus

The GOOOOOOONIONS are going to get more violent. It's the FULL COMMIE.

As predicted.

narciso

Well you may have a point, there, considering this example;

While the Trento group around Curcio had its main roots in the Sociology Department of the Catholic University, the Reggio Emilia group (around Franceschini) included mostly former members of the F G C I (the Communist youth movement) expelled from the parent party for extremist views.[4] In the beginning the Red Brigades were mainly active in Reggio Emilia, and in large factories in Milan, (such as Sit-Siemens, Pirelli and Magneti Marelli) and in Turin (Fiat). Members sabotaged factory equipment and broke into factory offices and trade union headquarters. In 1972, they carried out their first kidnapping: a factory foreman was held for some time but later released.[5]

Rob Crawford

Ron White is very funny -- just don't expect high-brow humor.

Is he the one with the joke about the golf glove his dog ate?

Rob Crawford
“It’s time for a massive, dissident, direct action to bring about the ship in the flow of the wind,”

They're going to leave us in irons and we'll be lucky if all that happens is we turn turtle.

Danube of Thought on IPad

"bring about the ship in the flow of the wind?"

Beats the shit outta me.

narciso

Crossed metaphors, either bring around, or turn about, either way, it 'winning the future'

narciso

Costas seems to bring a power drill, when a mere shovel was called for.

narciso

Lord love a duck;


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/12/11/costas-guns-zimmerman?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BreitbartFeed+%28Breitbart+Feed%29

Danube of Thought on IPad

Sue, we still need to hear from you about those letterman's jackets.

Ralph L

Synder was wise to pass the bill at the beginning of winter.

The idea that you can't sell your labor to whomever at whatever wage & conditions you agree to is grossly un-American to me--to say nothing of dues taxation.

Sue

DoT

I didn't see them. I don't know what to say about them. How about bwahahaha?

Clarice

I'm going to bed. Walk me in 4 years and some months,please.

Danube of Thought on IPad

Is it OK if we just wake you, Clarice? I'm not sure I'll be up to the walking part by then.

Dave (in MA)

Crowder challenges the thug to come forward and fight him for charity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooEkSlNFEwE

Gus

Yes, I'm sure the GOOOOOONION PUSSY is VERY CONCERNED about Charity.

Please!! Any LIBTARD.....define CHARITY for me.

Dave (in MA)

Well, the alternative is they find the guy and press charges.

daddy

Bilk The Whales (part 2)

The second of two former Alaska Eskimo Whaling Commission executive directors to admit to misusing commission funds was sentenced Monday to six months in prison and ordered to pay back more than $100,000.

Surprises me a bit in that both of the stealing Whaling Commissioners are women, whereas I thought in traditional Eskimo Society it was the males doing the actual Whaling.


Rob Crawford

Sure, daddy, the men do the whaling, the women do the embezzlement.

Ralph L

daddy, aren't you impressed with Clarice's bladder control? Bet your dogs can't hold out that long.

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