Ongoing 'West Wing' Fantasies

Obama gave an inaugural speech intended to rally his liberal base and annoy the rest of us, and the NY Times is still aquiver.

Their latest installment of West Wing is here:

Obama Speech Leaves G.O.P. Stark Choices

By JONATHAN WEISMAN

WASHINGTON — President Obama’s aggressive Inaugural Address on Monday presented Congressional Republicans with a stark choice over the next two years: accommodate the president’s agenda on immigration, guns, energy and social programs and hope to take the liberal edge off issues dictated by the White House, or dig in as the last bulwark against a re-elected Democratic president and accept the political risks of that hard-line stance.

Obama spoke and the world shifted. Just like it did with health care. And more stimulus.

Mickey Kaus takes the Times to task for their packaging of the debt-ceiling maneuvering. The Times is also amusingly hopeful with this:

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, vowed Tuesday to put on the floor any gun control measures passed by the Judiciary Committee, inching closer to another showdown with the House.

A showdown with the House? As the Times editors noted last week, Reid is inching closer towards a showdown with a slew of unsympathetic Red State Democratic Senators, himself included:

The gun lobby is focused within the Republican Party, but Democratic lawmakers have also been to blame for failing to pass meaningful gun regulations. Already, some Democrats who should be strongest on gun controls are showing familiar signs of weakness.

Senator Pat Leahy, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, will be needed as a leader in this effort but has been mumbling about the need to hold extensive hearings. And Senator Harry Reid, the majority leader, was making ominous, cowardly remarks over the weekend about tailoring whatever the Senate does to what he thinks could get through a House dominated by the far-right fringe of the Republican Party. He has started to wriggle away from the idea of an assault weapons ban, for example.

And in other reporting the Times noted yet another plot twist in their West Wing episode - the Keystone pipeline is back and Obama needs to figure out how to duck it again:

WASHINGTON — The governor of Nebraska on Tuesday approved a revised route through the state for the Keystone XL pipeline, setting up a decision for President Obama that pipeline opponents say will be a crucial test of his intentions on climate change.

Uh huh. If we don't take the oil Canada will sell it to China, so the impact on global warming of turning away this pipeline will be roughly zero. Still, liberals progressives will howl, so what will Obama do (other than blame Boehner and Bush?). Maybe another dramatic speech? Stay tuned...

 

Comments

[sailor]

i thought the State Department was the one to decide on the pipeline? Am I wrong?

[Soylent Red]

Firstest.

Whatevs when it comes to the NYT. Let them convince President Tiger Beat that he is a rough and tumble OG political gangsta. It will accelerate his hubris and overreach and help us make the case in 2014 that he needs to be checked by an opposition Congress.

[Soylent Red]

Dammit sailor.

OK. Secondest.

[daddy]

You remember that delightful scene in "MY Cousin Vinny", when Mister Gambini is having his fiance testify as a hostile witness, because at the moment she hates Mr Gambini's guts:

Vinny Gambini: Your Honor, may I have permission to treat Ms. Vito as a hostile witness?
Mona Lisa Vito: You think I'm hostile now, wait 'til you see me tonight.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Do you two know each other?
Vinny Gambini: Yeah, she's my fiancée.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Well, that would certainly explain the hostility. (chuckles:)

For some reason reading this next story made me think of that scene:

'She grabbed a knife and tried to stab Levi Johnston!

Me: Who tried to stab Levi Johnston?
Story: His new wife.
Me: That would explain the hostility. (Chuckles:)

[Neo]

"What does it matter?"

The ambassador and 3 others are dead ... and that can't change
... but it does matter because what is left are things that can be changed .. and obviously should be changed.

[maryrose]

daddy:
My husband loves that movie.She received a Best Supporting Actress Oscar for her performance.
I will watch the House hearings because they have to be better than the Senate's The Dem gushing was sickening and I did mute the tv when dems were speaking. Have I said lately how much I love Rand Paul? Firing is too good for her. I like the tar and feather idea.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

Could a benevolent God be kind enough to make the 2014 elections about gun control?

[Threadkiller]

"Obama Speech G.O.P Leaves G.O.P. Stark Choices

FTFY

US Supreme Court on Monday turned aside a petition from the Republican National Committee to lift a 30-year-old consent decree. The decree requires the RNC to refrain from tactics that could suppress voting rights.

Are you still a member of the party of racists?

In urging the high court to examine whether the decree is still warranted, lawyers for the Republican Party said the arrangement had become onerous for the RNC.

“The ability of the Republican Party, as one of two national political parties, to conduct effective election observation programs is of national importance,” Bobby Burchfield wrote in his petition to the high court.

He said statutes in 21 states permit political parties to engage in “poll watching activities for the purpose of detecting and reporting fraud.”

DNC lawyers argued that the high court should allow the consent decree to remain in place. Evidence presented during the 2008 and 2009 litigation over the decree showed that the order is still needed today, they said.

And the DNC won again.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2013/0114/At-Supreme-Court-no-reprieve-for-GOP-in-voting-rights-consent-decree

This will be in effect next election.

Get out of the G.O.P now!!

[pagar]

"What does it matter?"

http://www.soopermexican.com/2012/10/17/debate-questioner-says-obama-knows-state-dept-officials-who-turned-down-benghazi-security-requests/

"As to Ladka’s question about who turned down the Benghazi security requests and why, Obama reportedly told him that “releasing the individual names of anyone in the State Department would really put them at risk,” Ladka says. "

(Via the Washington Post)

Putting American Ambassadors at risk is OK?

[maryrose]

TK:
I disagree. We can write the campaign ad right now.
We know fraud occurred in 2008 and 2012. Democrats will always lie or cheat to win. Be diligent with military votes and take out full page ads in states that don't meet deadlines emphasizing the ones that blew it in 2012.
I am still incensed about Hil's comment
"What difference does it make? It was the only time she lost her cool and looked GUILTY as sin.
Frau: You are absolutely correct in your assessment of Hillary's "Liar's High". That is exactly what it was. The Faux indignation just screamed through the tv screen.Love Ron Johnson too! We need a woman to filet her . I am counting on House members to take her to the cleaners.Can you imagine how she will try and ridicule Biden if he decides to run?She tried to look presidential today. Epic fail. Sorry DUDU. Your princess doesn't pass the smell test.

[daddy]

If I understand it from reading your guys comments, 3 Repub's asked questions Hillary didn't like.

Rand Paul
Johnson
McCain

2 out of 3 are favs of the Tea Party.

What I take from that is that the Left is now going to try to destroy Rand Paul and Johnson.

Exhibit A: ABC Reporter: But What Does Rand Paul Know About Foreign Policy?

[Rob Crawford]

“releasing the individual names of anyone in the State Department would really put them at risk,” Ladka says.

But didn't we hear they can't do their jobs in a bunker?

So if they have to be exposed to people who would kill them, how about exposing them to people who will just hold them accountable?

[pagar]

TK, Asking again, where would one go, what would one do as a total outsider?
There is no where else. Either one works to make the Republicans better or one tells the Democrats they have complete control of the US with their Anti American beliefs: there is no other choice, IMO.

[jor]

GOP caves on debt ceiling after making fools of themselves threatening to default the country. Another victory for you guys!

BTW, two decent conservative pieces on Obama's inaugural are both at the times:
Brooks: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/opinion/brooks-the-collective-turn.html?src=me&ref=general

Douthat: http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/the-liberal-hour/

you guys need to come back to reality. You lost the election -- got crushed in the presidential. Lost the popular vote in the house. Why don't you guys try winning elections first instead of throwing tantrums and threatening to default the country?

TK: Obviously when you can't win elections you start suppressing the vote. Even republicans are admitting they are purposely suppressing voters (c.f. Condi Rice, Colin Powell).

[daddy]

Here's a question for Hillary.

Mrs Clinton,

Did you think it was appropriate at the Funeral service for the murdered Ambassador and the 3 other murdered Americans, that Vice President Joe Biden asked a grieving parent of the deceased, "Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?"

[maryrose]

daddy:
And you will be correct. However, the press tried this already with Paul and failed misreably. Johnson stands on his own . They won't find any dirt there. Today is a big black eye for Obama. I am still waiting for someone to ask this question:
" Did Obama downplay Benghazi so he could win re-election?" I already know the answer from the progs but I just want thenm to know that we know that is why Rice lied.

[Threadkiller]

maryrose, the RNC has a bad contract that we can't correct. So bad that they will cave on election day despite our "campaign ad". Remember ORCA?

The entire state of NC was closed off to our volunteers because the campaign failed to work together with NC GOP (How can that possibly happen???).

How indeed...

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/11/11/more-project-orca-after-action-reports-by-the-appropriately-named-disaster/

We need to BK the RNC so they can rebuild themselves without this contract. Until then you are a member of a team that has its rules set by the opposing team.

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/11/11/more-project-orca-after-action-reports-by-the-appropriately-named-disaster/

[Rob Crawford]

Lost the popular vote in the house.

WTF? Do you think with that brain, or is it just to keep your skull inflated?

[maryrose]

daddy;
Yes and I want someone to ask her "Why did you tell a grieving father that you would capture the video-maker and bring him to justice?"

[Rob Crawford]

Yes and I want someone to ask her "Why did you tell a grieving father that you would capture the video-maker and bring him to justice?"

"WHAT DOES IT MATTER?!" -- Hillary Clinton

[Threadkiller]

This should have been the second link:

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/11/09/more-reports-of-project-orca-fail/

"TK, Asking again, where would one go, what would one do as a total outsider?"

The question should be: where would the politicions go?

Do this now while we are mid season. Make the RNC fight for our vote. People who live in open primary states will have an advantage.

It is important for the RNC to see their membership dwindle. The same as any protest on a business you disagree with.

[Janet]

Jeff Flake (R-AZ) & John Barrasso (R-Wyoming) weren't bad. McCain didn't really ask any great question. He mostly just gave a good speech.
They only had like 1 minute to ask a question.

[Rob Crawford]

I think George W. Bush should give an interview and answer every question by shrieking "WHAT DOES IT MATTER?!"

[maryrose]

TK; Future elections are not going to turn on some lame contract. Future elections will turn on getting the truth out about dumb prog ideas, getting GOOD candidates to run and hiring smart honest journalists like Breitbart to expose hypocrisy, lies and evil doing of libs. We can't do it as a divided house. " A house divided against itself cannot stand" I want success in 2014 and 2016. Turning tail and running away is not the answer. Please don't call me a jerk or get mad at me.

[Threadkiller]

...politicians...

[Captain Hate]

Rodham logic:

Officer: Why are there four dead bodies in the back seat of your car?

Me: They're already dead; what does it matter?

[Threadkiller]

Turning tail and running away is not the answer.

I promise to not get mad if you show me where I suggested cowardice.

[maryrose]

I think that soundbite of Hillary's is going to come back and bite her on the arse.I can just hear Hannity now with a rant about what a big difference it does indeed make for everyone.
Her tears today reminded me of New Hampshire after she lost the Iowa caucausses. She is as fake and phony as they come.

[Dave (in MA)]

If we don't take the oil Canada will sell it to China, so the impact on global warming of turning away this pipeline will be roughly zero.

Setting aside the topic of whether there actually is AGW at all, won't it even be worse, since China doesn't regulate at all?

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"Why don't you guys try winning elections first"

Won the house in 2010 and 2012; won enough governorships and state legislatures in 2010 to control the redistricting process in a majority of states. And those district boundaries will remain unchanged until after the 2020 census.

[maryrose]

TK:
We need you in the Republican Party. It is not feasible or sensible to form a new party. Please come back. We can all join forces and defeat the evil that surrounds us. We are down but we are not out.
Schummer is gloating today about the Repubs decidsion on the debt ceiling, literally mocking us in a Politico article. We shall see how long he continues his mockery. We are going to get a budget and then CUTS in SPENDING. I can't wait to see Bammy's Mad face again when he throws a tantrum and doesn't get his way.Africa is blowing up in his face and he is dancing at an Inaugural.

[Threadkiller]

Future elections are not going to turn on some lame contract.

Tell that to RNC lawyer Bobby Burchfield. Here is what he said again:

“The ability of the Republican Party, as one of two national political parties, to conduct effective election observation programs is of national importance,”

The court saw it differently.

If you were brand new to voting and your choice was a party that can't conduct "effective election observation programs" and one who can, which would pick to be the party that has an advantage?

BTW, I could never get mad at you. :-)

[Neo]

The House on Wednesday passed the "No Budget, No Pay Act," a Republican bill that would effectively defuse the debt ceiling threat for several months.

The bill would let the Treasury Department borrow new money until mid-May. In exchange, the legislation would require lawmakers in both chambers of Congress to pass a budget resolution or have their pay withheld until they do.

The vote was 285 to 144, largely on the back of Republican support (with 109 Democrats voting against).

[Janet]

or Durbin's logic - 5 words - "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction", therefore no Dems have to answer questions ever again.
Who cares about Benghazi - "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction"
Who cares if Susan Rice lied - "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction"
Cries for more security went unanswered - "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction"
Cries for help went unanswered - "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction"
You falsely blamed a YouTube video guy - "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction"

[Jim Eagle]

maryrose,

That bite will only be heard by the church choir and repeated. All the infidels, agnostics, heretics (IOW's the low information voter and democrats) will never hear it because it is already spiked. But then again the MSM may think this was an "heroic" moment and lead with it. Now that I think about that is most likely what will occur under that rubric of heroism.

But what does it matter, we are so screwed anyway.

/DOOM then BOOM

[Rob Crawford]

Ya know, maybe Durbin's right. We should hold hearings on the claims about Iraqi WMD.

SUBPOENA BILL CLINTON!!!

[Threadkiller]

The RNC could not save the 10 cent filiment light bulb so it is no surprise that they couldn't get the decree removed. They are impotent.

If the RNC needs me they better act like they need me. Until then I will rally for convservatism, not for Roveism.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

Conn Carroll, looking ahead to 2014:

"Take Prince William County in northern Virginia, which was recently identified by The New York Times as the poster county for the Obama Majority. In 2008 and 2012 over 160,000 voters turned out to give Obama identical 16 point margins over John McCain and Mitt Romney respectively. But in 2009, when Obama was not on the ballot, only 75,000 voters turned out to vote in Prince William and Republican Bob McDonnell crushed Democratic Creigh Deeds by an even higher 18-point margin. Then in 2010, again with no Obama on the ballot, 91,000 Prince William voters turned out to vote and they voted for Republican House candidates by a 52 percent to 46 percent margin."

[pagar]

". Make the RNC fight for our vote. "

How is that going to be done from outside the organization? What is one to threaten the GOP with. Threaten to vote for a political party that works every single day to kill more American children, a political party where every single member lies about every thing, I can't do it.

I believe in NOTHING the Democrats and/or Communists believe in and would not support them for anything.
I will stay a Republican.

[Threadkiller]

Pagar, Did I say to vote for baby killers?

[Janet]

CSPAN-3 live feed.

[Clarice]

Then last week when the dems were glowing in the Beyonce lipsynch, rep legislators inVa passed a redistricting law that hurts the dems...I might consider that bad form, but after the way Obamacare was passed and the WI Dems tried to block a majority vote there,--it's perfect.

[BB Key]

House hearing on CSPAN-3, now .

[maryrose]

JIB:
I don't think shouting "What Does It Matter on live C-Span is something that Fox news is going to let die. I challenge all conservative radio stations to tell their listeners that Hillary Rodham Clinton thinks it is ok to lie to the American people about what happened in Benghazi. In essence that is what she said and we have the video and audiotape. Get an RNC ad ready to go pronto. This how the dems do it.
Come on Ileana, bring her down.

[Janet]

Ed Royce (R-Calif) - good opening statement.

[Threadkiller]

Here is the RNC in 2008 getting tough on Obama's pro-abortion votes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5HhWwBTGQS8

About as tough as my daughter's bunny Chuckles is..

[NK]

TK-- please start your own independent political party blogsite. This is tiresome in the extreme.

[Janet]

Eliot Engle (D-NY) -
The Dems just want to paint this as how to make things better in the future. More money, more meetings, ...
They aren't treating this as a questioning of what happened in Benghazi.

[Threadkiller]

NK, WTF?

[Rob Crawford]

I might consider that bad form, but after the way Obamacare was passed and the WI Dems tried to block a majority vote there,--it's perfect.

Don't forget NY's late-night, last-minute passage of their gun control "law".

[matt]

Hillary dances around Benghazi. LUN

some thoughts.

[Janet]

What timing too. The day before she leaves she finally shows up & answers a few questions.

[Janet]

We want to learn from the tragedy...after we learn what exactly happened prior to, during, & after the tragedy.

[NK]

Dems don't answer questions at hearings, because there's no penalty in avoiding them. The last time a Dem was skewered in a hearing was when the Clintons offerred up as a fall guy that hapless kid who photocopied the FBI files for Hildabeast. the only reason the media gave that play was because Dem Tom Lantos told the kid he should kill himself (basically), and the kid just about started crying for his mommy. Repubs bring up Dem gross negligence that gets people killed (benghazy, F&F)? no public penalty paid for that by a Dem. As long as the dem sticks to the script-- taise taxes, raise spending-- the gangster organization gives them a pass.

[pagar]

"They aren't treating this as a questioning of what happened in Benghazi."

They do not care what happened in Benghazi, IMO.

[Captain Hate]

matt, the Pantsuit was just doing what Slick has always done: Deny, deny, deny. He and Carville made talking nonsensical gibberish into accepted political discussion in the 90s complete with Orwellian ruminations on the meaning of the word "is" and other flights of ignorance on which they never get called. The Repubs have been negligent on figuring out a way to counteract this. In fact most of the Repub Senators this morning should face primary challenges just based on being ill prepared to handle their responsibilities. They're almost as much of the problem as the donks are.

[Frau Prost Gemeinschaft!]

NK , I don't think all JOM folk are registered as Republicans. Many certainly support and vote Republican.

TK - As for leaving the party, there is *NO* place else. Even Billy the Bomber and Hilary! said "things would have to be changed from within."
Doesn't that apply here, too?

[NK]

CaptH@227-- all true-- problem-- the deny deny deny -- Orwell speak is now part of the culture and accepted by the muddle-- as long as it's for the right cause, of course.

[Threadkiller]

". Make the RNC fight for our vote. "

How is that going to be done from outside the organization?

From DeMint on his way to the outside:

I'll see what they do, but we're going to do that [auditing the campaign] at Heritage and we're not just going to do an analysis of other pols. We're going to go out and do our own research. I know you can't just ask people what they think, unless you give them cues. Like, what do you think of the word conservative. You can ask them if they call themselves conservative or not. 40% call themselves conservative, but you don't know what the other 60% think about it. They may not like the word, but they may be conservatives. I just see, looking at the political handling from the Republican side is so amateurish compared to even what I was doing in marketing fifteen years ago, before I came to Congress. And the ability is there to be so much more sophisticated in targeting markets, segmenting and communicating with them individually.

And from the interviewer:

Talking to DeMint, its clear he wants to aggressively build out this infrastructure, building an almost alternative structure to the GOP. If he succeeds, the question of whether or not the RNC can reenergize itself may be irrelevant.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/13/demint-heritage-will-do-its-own-audit-of-the-election

Does this mean he is no longer conservative?

[Jim Eagle]

maryrose,

Don't be surprised that the MSM treats it differently than Fox will - by protraying her as a heroine for shouting down the right wing attempt to impugn the integrity, guts and courage of our hard working Reset Button Operator.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--TK-- please start your own independent political party blogsite. This is tiresome in the extreme.--

I'm dubious TK's strategy has any chance of success, but his disgust with the mass of wimps and DC leeches known as the Republican party is hardly unique to him nor unjustified.
Nor is he trying to start an independent party; he's trying to wake the GOP up and reform it.

Now, he is somewhat repetitious but what's a little OCD among friends?
Besides, I hear Paul Revere was a little repetitious too.

[derwill]

--Lost the popular vote in the house.--

Yet here we are with the majority and a Republican Speaker, so let me adopt the Democrats' new slogan and say, "What difference does it make?" Or is is, "What does it matter?" Works either way.

As for the GOP caving on the debt ceiling . . . again, What difference does it make? For quite some time now we're been living inside a giant global sovereign debt and derivative bubble, and the "consensus" has been that we could keep on inflating that bubble indefinitely. Unfortunately as I result I think we've reached a point where to stop pumping air into the bubble now will have the same disastrous consequences as continuing on as we have been, spending and QE-ing and inflating away until the bubble pops. So either way: DOOM.

Wouldn't want to be living in a gun-free zone, inside a blue hell city when that happens, though. Just saying . . .

[NK]

I'm a proud registered INDEPENDENT. The USA has a federal 'winner take all' election system, and legislative majorities are formed by cumulative seat winners from those winner take all elections. Unlike parliamentary systems, In the USA single issue or other narrow parties only hurt the cause they espouse by stealing winner take all votes away from the major party closest to their cause. The Dems suppress independent runs by employing top down gangster-style rules of party discipline. their voters are fine with that. Conservatives voters won't tolerate gangsterism, so the Repubs have a tougher time keeping their voters happy-- and party discipline is far more difficult. Anyone is free to deny that reality, and start a Nativist POTUS Eligibility Party (NatPoEP) and steal a few-- a really smallnumber of votes from Repubs-- which of course gives those votes to Dems. Because that's a worse than useless exercise, I find it tiresome.

[Threadkiller]

"things would have to be changed from within."

The RNC went to SCOTUS to change the rules from within. They failed. Do you have a suggestion on another path for the RNC to gain the ability to secure the ballot?

I feel the boycott would be short anf sweet. If enough people burned their GOP card the party would change.

cart horse

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

And I have changed my position on the consent decree as well.
As I read it and as it is worded it should be of little consequence.
But in the real world, if the GOP feels it's enough of an impediment that they have to go to court, including appealing to SCOTUS, to try and get it overturned then who am I to argue with the guys who have to deal with it?
It must be harming them or why go to court?

[Clarice]

Ileana is dynamite.

[Janet]

Ros-Lehtinen is great.

[Janet]

Some guy from Samoa is talking now. Is Samoa a State? What is that guy doing there?

[NK]

cart-horse = national suicide.

The next time the Dems control the House/Senate/WH-- they'll pass open borders, mandatory union employment, double the minimum wage and double taxes on the "Rich", PLUS pass a Budget Resolution that increase "Base Line" spending to 30% of GDP. NONE of these will EVER be completely undone. If some 'conservatives' had their way, this would all happen in January 2015.

[Clarice]

Is Clinton a pedestrian mind and corruptocrat? You betcha.

Now she keeps banging the drum about how many the Libyans missed our Ambassador? Do you have any doubt these folks were in some way or another beholden to and organized by us?

[matt]

"what is that guy doing there?"

the hula?

[Threadkiller]

The House of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs rules, 113th Congress, adopted January 15, 2013

6.Witnesses
(a) Interrogation of Witnesses
(3) Subject to paragraph (4), each Member may interrogate the witness for 5 minutes, the reply of the witness being included in the 5-minute period. After all Members have had an opportunity to ask questions, the round shall begin again under the 5-minute rule.

[emphasis mine]

Will there be a round two?

[NK]

"Samoan"-- a kind of Girl Scout cookie. Tasty.

[Threadkiller]

What is that guy doing there?

Wooing Manti Te'o.

[Jane on Ipad]

I swear, the only thing these people care about is the sound of their own voices.

[Threadkiller]

What the hell was Les Nessman talking about?

Even Hil was confused.

[Janet]

I don't know what this event is even about...it sure isn't about asking SoS Hillary Clinton questions about Benghazi.

[Threadkiller]

It is getting good now.

[sailor]

Hillary is "tough as nails" and supremely arrogant to boot!

[Janet]

Dana Rohrabacher!!! My hero!!! Finally brings up the YouTube video!!!

[pagar]

Did someone just ask about bringing the bad guys from the Libya attacks
to justice. Sounds like the Algerian military
already did so.

"Several Egyptian members of the squad of militants that lay bloody siege to an Algerian gas complex last week also took part in the deadly attack on the United States Mission in Libya in September, a senior Algerian official said Tuesday."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/ny-times-benghazi-killers-murdered-us-citizens-in-algeria-too/

[Janet]

The live feed has switched to CSPAN.

[Janet]

We are begging Tunisia to help us?

Help us, Tunisia!!

[Threadkiller]

Remarks at the Transfer of Remains Ceremony to Honor Those Lost in Attacks in Benghazi, Libya

Remarks
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Andrews Air Force Base
Joint Base Andrews, MD

September 14, 2012

This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. It is hard for the American people to make sense of that because it is senseless, and it is totally unacceptable.

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2012/09/197780.htm

Do the Republicans not have a copy of this?

[Janet]

Interesting ...Rep.Chabot said the documents sent over from State were a giant mess. Duplicates, not chronological,...just a big mess document dump.
It has been delay, delay, delay with the State Dept. from the get-go.

[Janet]

I'm done. Jan. 23, 2013 wasted.
Let me know if anything big happens. I'll be back...

[Threadkiller]

The idea that they will take the answer in writing to be submitted at a later date makes me sick. Their own rules allow them to go to a second, third, or as many rounds of questioning as they see fit.

They should keep going until they get the answers now! Wear her ass out.

[Bruce]

Back a bit to the original topic - not quite sure what Harry Reid is up to right now. I think that he and other Dem Senators who represent states with large and vocal gun rights populations would do better if gun grabbing legislation doesn't make it to the Senate floor. He may have counted votes on the Judiciary Committee and be fairly certain that there aren't enough votes to get it to the floor.

Until recently, I lived in NW Nevada, and it is one of the most gun friendly places I have ever lived (though I see more open carry in Montana). Remember, this is the state where you can rent and shoot most any machine gun made, all the way up to, and including, the venerable .50 M2. And, Reid himself inoculated himself from Sarah Palin's bus trip to his hometown of Searchlight by meeting with the NRA at a shooting range in Las Vegas.

Probably the worst thing that could happen to him would be if the legislation got to the floor, and Dems from gun rights states were forced to vote for it. That might just cost him his majority position in the next election, as Dem Senators, formerly with high ratings with the NRA, find themselves defending their votes to take guns and magazines out of the hands of their voters.

[Threadkiller]

Quick, Janet! Turn it back on!!

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

As I was sitting in a waiting room yesterday I noted Time magazine is about 20 pages thick these days.

Could they pass a low capacity magazine ban?

[Jane on Ipad]

They keep showing Jojojo Kennedy. He looks like he is dying for a drink.

[narciso]

'LOL, daddy, like the old line,attributed at different times to Sununu, among others .why do people take an instant dislike to me, it saves time.'

[Melinda Romanoff]

Panetta removes ban on women in front lines.

[sailor]

Hillary has "had some work done." Botox on forehead and some filler around sides of mouth and probably some more.

[NK]

Hillary has "had some work done." -- Demand a refund. Not as bad as John effin' Kerry's, but still...

[narciso]

You know anyone they would pick would be a poor
choice;

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/23/in-graduate-thesis-john-brennan-argued-for-government-censorship-too-much-freedom-is-possible/#ixzz2IoYTgaFi

[Threadkiller]

"1.4 million cables come thru my office" Hil exclaims!

How many come from Ambassadors in semi-war zones?

[Clarice]

narciso, when they roll out the guillotine in the center of town, I fear you and I will be in the first cart driven to the site.

[Clarice]

You have to hand it to the Clintons--they were the first to realize how utterly stupid the voters are and how easily corrupted is the media.

[NK]

A predatory/sex obsessed golfer and an emotionally unstable skier-- what could POSSIBLY go wrong? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2267128/Tiger-Woods-goes-gold-romance-Olympic-skier-Lindsey-Vonn-heats-up.html