Thinking Of Bumper Stickers...

Drawn from the "Economists Do It With Models" genre and inspired by Obama's Second Inaugural, I propose:

Liberals Do It With Government Assistance

Hmm - that's putting the 'Big' in 'Big Government'.  Yeah, I'll be here all week. But the week is nearly over...

Comments

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Liberals do it with a smile and a shiv, but sometimes they forget the smile.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Oh yeah;
Liberals do it with scissors too.

Salon chicky says "sure my baby is a human life and I'm proud to kill it".
One of the blessings of lefties feeling their oats is we get to see just what is inside those black, dessicated things they call bleeding hearts.

[Old Lurker]

Bumper stickers?

Dean Hall of the Washington National Cathedral today per Drudge ""But I believe that the gun lobby is no match for the cross lobby."

NRA Membership 4,200,000, growing.

Episcopal Church USA 1,951,000 and dying off.

[Peter]

The all time cleverest "do it" was penned by Cole Porter. "Lithuanians and Letts do it." Too bad nobody knows what a Lett or a Lithuanian is anymore.

[narciso]

Something new you learn every day, Peter, I would have though that was meme Latvians,

[BumperStickerist]

my work here is done.
_

[lyle]

I love that Cole Porter tune. Back when I had all my guitar chops with me, I played a George Van Eps solo instrumental arrangement of it. But the words are great.

[hit and run]

Liberals Do It On The Backs Of The Middle Class.

[daddy]

Another successful crucifixion by the EPA:

Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas:

The Las Brisas power plant had been part of a larger Las Brisas Energy Center project planned for Corpus Christi’s Inner Harbor. Economists had projected that in the first 5 years of construction and operation the project would create 1,300 direct and 2,600 indirect jobs. Now none of those jobs will exist.

“These costly rules exceeded the bounds of EPA authority, incur tremendous costs, and produce no real benefits related to climate change,” said Dave Freysinger, CEO of the aborted project.

[bgates]

Democrats are so afraid of doing it alone, they'll force you to do it with them.

[Frau Nase voll]

Barry's commie buddy Van Jones lies to present the preezy as a garden variety American and seeks to disguise our tyrant in communitarian clothes:

Later, when asked (off tape) to define "communitarian," Jones was unable to answer or to point toward any source for a definition. He said there wasn’t really a way to look up “communitarianism.”

He did reiterate, however, that he saw communitarianism as a counterbalance to libertarianism, which he equated to “individualism.”

(Breitbart)

[Beasts of England]

Yea, economists! We do get all the hot chicks! Whoo!

On a related note: while borrowing my brother's spare Mercedes while my car is being repaired (and my Mother's, whose I also wrecked!) the motor seized up! No oil. Kaput! I'm only laughing so I won't cry...

So I'm wondering, what kinda bicycle should I buy?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--Later, when asked (off tape) to define "communitarian," Jones was unable to answer or to point toward any source for a definition. He said there wasn’t really a way to look up “communitarianism.”--

He can't look it up because he's inserting a superfluous "itarian" in the middle.
Try this one Van; c-o-m-m-u-n-i-s-m.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--On a related note: while borrowing my brother's spare Mercedes while my car is being repaired (and my Mother's, whose I also wrecked!) the motor seized up! No oil.--

Dude, there's this little flexible stick under the hood....

[Soylent Red]

BoE:

You may never borrow my car.

[lance armstrong]

So I'm wondering, what kinda bicycle should I buy?

It's not about the bike.

[Stephanie]

BoE can borrow mine. I so want a new one. ;)

[Mark Folkestad]

BoE, if you make it up to SE Alaska in a year or two, I might loan you a kayak, but that would be all.

[daddy]

I like Insty's sentence (I bolded it) behind his link to this story today from the Hill:

THE HILL: House Democrats propose opening gun makers to civil liability. I’d respond with an amendment making people who maintain gun-free zones liable for any violence on their premises.

[Threadkiller]

Here is the GOP slogan for it's members:

"Endeavor to persevere"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csEzTwKemwY

...easy to sneak up on..

[Rob Crawford]

He did reiterate, however, that he saw communitarianism as a counterbalance to libertarianism, which he equated to “individualism.”

In other words, it's antithetical to individual liberty.

[Threadkiller]

Screw Boehner.

Mr. Speaker:

The House is poised to pass HR 325. I respect the sincerity of its supporters, but I must firmly dissent.

This bill accommodates spending at ruinous levels far beyond the limits set by the House budget. It sets a terrible precedent by abolishing the debt limit for nearly four months, giving an unlimited credit card to this administration.

I think members will be stunned by the borrowing that this moratorium makes possible – certainly thousands of dollars of new debt heaped on every household in America.

House Republicans have passed two budget plans that put our nation back on a path to fiscal solvency. If the debt limit were increased within that trajectory at two month intervals, it would require only small and incremental reforms each time. That would both avert default now and the fiscal crisis that we are fast approaching. I believe that is achievable and far preferable to the bill to be voted on today.

http://mcclintock.house.gov/2013/01/debt-limit-hr-325-carte-blanche-credit.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvwF551l_gI

[henry]

what kinda bicycle should I buy?

stationary, with a mattress next to it in case you fall off.

[Threadkiller]

A fun read:

http://mcclintock.house.gov/2013/01/deconstructing-dan-morain.shtml

[fdcol63]

Liberals Do It To You.

[daddy]

Mark F,

Up here they are on the lookout for even another Alaskan reality TV Show. Not Alaskan State Troopers, not Alaskan Ice Truckers, not Alaskan Most Dangerous Catchers, not Alaskan whatever the hell else, this new one is offering to pay $3,500 a pop to participants in the new series, but the catch is you have to be a member of The Old Believers Russian Religious Sect.

Reality TV casting call for Alaska Old Believers on Kenai Peninsula

Each Russian Old Believer family will be paid $3,500 per show to be in the series, which the producers hope to air for three seasons...Old Believers separated after 1666 from the official Russian Orthodox Church as a protest against church reforms introduced by Patriarch Nikon between 1652–66. Old Believers continue liturgical practices that the Russian Orthodox Church maintained before the implementation of reforms, and they were persecuted for it. Groups escaped to various countries around the world in the ensuing centuries, and are said to have come to Alaska in the 1960s.

I think they are the folks I see in the Safeway every once in a long while with all the gals in granny dresses and the mom's wearing head scarfs.

[Peter]

It's a good day when I can teach someone as smart as Narciso something new. Letts do it. LUN

[hit and run]

Liberals Do It Only With Other Liberals.

But In The End They Screw Us All.

[daddy]

OT:

A beautiful 17 second video of our Sun celebrating New Years Eve.

[fdcol63]

I tried to post this yesterday, but my links to individual YouTube videos of this lecture triggered a SPAM filter, I guess, and it got lost.

Anyway, some of the comments on one of the threads yesterday - especially those by narciso, rse and others concerning liberal initiatives in the realms of education, Agenda 21, etc. - reminded me of the interviews and lectures that Yuri Bezmenov, a Soviet defector back in the '80's, did regarding the Communist strategies of subversion, demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization.

IMHO, this is exactly what we see occurring here in America right now.

I invite all of you to watch this 1 hr video at your leisure, and ask yourselves, is this really happening? If so, what can we do to stop it?

Personally, I think it's much easier to KEEP your freedom than to have to fight to REGAIN it ..... but if fighting is necessary, it's better to do it NOW rather than after they've crushed the 2nd Amendment and completely changed our culture.

Tomas Schuman (Yuri Bezmenov) L.A. 1983

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY

[Old Lurker]

Step 1. Nationalize a private market.

Step 2. Eradicate what is left of the private competition.

Right on schedule:

"Senate Democrats are moving to make it easier for consumers to expunge some student debt in bankruptcy, but the proposal faces uncertain odds on Capitol Hill.

The proposal, unveiled Wednesday by Sen. Dick Durbin, the Senate’s No. 2 Democrat, would target student loans issued by private lenders such as SLM Corp.’s Sallie Mae, Wells Fargo Corp. and Discover Financial Services. The bill would not apply to federal education loans, which comprise more than 80% of the roughly $1 trillion in outstanding student debt in the U.S.

Federal law prohibits, except in rare cases, private or federal student loans from being discharged in bankruptcy court. Consumer advocates say that has prevented many borrowers from unloading student debt even when the amount owed is so high there is little hope for them to repay. Most other types of consumer debt, including money owned on mortgages, credit cards and auto loans, can be discharged in bankruptcy."

[Dave (in MA)]

Liberals Do It With Sandra Fluke
And Expect Us To Pay For It

[Old Lurker]

Beast.

In the spirit of Liberalism, I am happy to lend you my neighbor's car.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--So I'm wondering, what kinda bicycle should I buy?--

I would recommend a Santa Cruz. They have the most accommodating seats. I believe some models are even heated. :)

[derwill]

The Liberals are in a Catch-22 when it comes to gun control. In order to arrive at the final stage of a totalitarian/fascist state, they know they're going to have to implement certain ugly policies that will face resistance. (Ayers predicted they'd have to kill at least 25 million to accomplish their goal and he was probably underestimating). But an unarmed resistance is considerably easier to crush than an armed one, especially in a country like the US, where the resistance, when it comes, is likely to be centered in entire states in the deep south and mountain west, and in places like the Smokey Mountains in Tenn. or the Appalachians in W. VA, with vast swaths of wilderness terrain where government forces would be at a considerable disadvantage vs. the native hunters and fishermen.

So they need to disarm the population first before they risk doing something that will trigger a revolution or a civil war that they could very well lose, but the very act of attempting to disarm the population is likely to be the one thing most likely to trigger an armed resistance.

So their best chance is to get people to voluntarily surrender their weapons, hence the hysterical propaganda we've been subjected to since Sandy Hook. Unfortunately for them so far the propaganda only seems to be motivating even more citizens to go out and arm themselves to the teeth. And the more they push for gun control without public support, the more they risk ruining their chances for taking back the House in 2014, as well as maybe even costing them a Senate seat or two or three=.

In the end I think they'll only try for gun confiscation if they believe they've got the US military behind them, because that is what it will take. But again, Catch-22--even if they can get the generals to order the troops to fire on their fellow citizens, and even if the troops obey, they then run the risk of turning even more citizens against them.

[Beasts of England]

Thanks, everyone! And Ig, my brother swore he checked the oil last month and hadn't driven it 50 miles since. He has taken the news with a great sense of humor...

Does the HCOAB come with the B? lol

[Threadkiller]

Major General(ret) Paul Vallely Talks Obama Eligibility: Multiple Social Security Numbers; No Background Checks

http://youtu.be/ghpkN_kzU3s

[Bill in AZ sez it's time for Obama/Holder murder trial in Mexico]

derwill:

(Ayers predicted they'd have to kill at least 25 million to accomplish their goal and he was probably underestimating)

There was an article in AmericanThinker a couple weeks ago that thanks to the march through the institutions that rse is all about, the number is down to 10 million now so we have that going for us.

[Threadkiller]

Paul E. Vallely, Major General, US Army (ret) was born in DuBois, Pa.

He retired in 1991 from the US Army as Deputy Commanding General, US Army, Pacific in Honolulu, Hawaii. General Vallely graduated from the US Military Academy at West Point and was commissioned in the Army in 1961 serving a distinguishing career of 32 years in the Army.

General Vallely is a graduate of the Infantry School, Ranger and Airborne Schools, Jumpmaster School, the Command and General Staff School, The Industrial College of the Armed Forces and the Army War College. His combat service in Vietnam included positions as infantry company commander, intelligence officer, operations officer, military advisor and aide-de-camp. He has over fifteen (15) years experience in Special Operations, Psychological and Civil-Military Operations.

http://www.standupamericaus.org/about-sua/general-vallely/

[Janet]

NRA Membership 4,200,000, growing.

Episcopal Church USA 1,951,000 and dying off.

Wow, Old Lurker. I watched the video of Dean Hall & then got on the phone & joined the NRA. (copying centralcal!).
These are some times we are living in....

[Old Lurker]

Beast.

Were you joshing with us the other night about all those cars you have abused in your recently life?

If so, well you made me and all the other JOM guys feel awfully inadequate. And if you really had those world class machines, then damn, you go guy!

Mind you I give you a pass for wasting money on the women and booze which you admitted in the same breath with those cars!

[henry]

TK, now you're dragging my grandfather's old command into birtherdom. As he would say, win the next battle, don't re-lose the last one.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--Does the HCOAB come with the B?--

That seems like an extremely personal question, Beasts, but I will ask her after her next ride on a bumpy road. :)

[Old Lurker]

TK, and MY grandfather was also born in DuBois, PA so there you go with Henry and me!

Henry, your GF was a WP contemporary of my wife's GF I think and also might have been at the War College at the same time.

Small world.

[henry]

OL, both WP and the Army were small in those days, they probably knew each other.

[Old Lurker]

Probably so, Henry. My FIL was a child when his dad was at the War College and he used to tell stories of riding his horse from Ft. McNair over to Georgetown to attend school. FIL was WP 36 and the army was still very small and I think trained with wooden guns before your GF got them all real weapons it sounds like.

Neat.

Janet...good move with the NRA. Some Dean, huh?

[Threadkiller]

Technically speaking, henry and OL, The Major General drug himself into the fray.

Is the Major General a loon?

This Captain (SEAL), UNS(ret) drug himself into the fray awhile back:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/08/18/retired-navy-seal-founder-of-anti-obama-pac-i-have-to-admit-im-a-birther/

Here he is talkikng about his Vietnam and Coronado, CA history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wML1FuJWJE

[Threadkiller]

...talking...

[Threadkiller]

...USN...

[Danube of Thought iPad]

If McClintock wants credibility, he (like the GOP) has to specify what spending he would cut. Would he reduce SS benefits, or Medicare, or Medicaid?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

McClintock points to two House budgets which he claims put the country on the path to fiscal solvency. Presumably they had specific spending targets.

[Clarice]

The Sierra Club is encouraging lawbreaking to stop the Keystone Pipeline.

[Threadkiller]

He backed the Ryan Budget.

To show that he has "credibility" he even voted for it.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.CON.RES.34:

[Danube of Thought iPad]

“If there were a jury of 12 good men and women and the evidence were placed before them, there would be absolutely no question Barack Obama was not born where he said he was and is not who he says he is.”

Yes, that is the statement of a loon.

[Threadkiller]

More here:

http://budget.house.gov/fy2013prosperity/

[centralcal]

The Lord of the Flies

Not quite as bad as the fly on his lip photo, but there may be other shots to surface.

[centralcal]

Looks like Drudge copied me!!! Their version of The Lord of the Flies.

[Threadkiller]

I asked if the Major General(ret) was a loon but you took a quote from the Captain(SEAL), USN(ret) to answer the question?

[narciso]

It's enough to know that Frank Davis, was an influence he was a Stalinist who wanted a Federalstimulus, hated GM, considered
anticommunists like the Klan, similar sentiments to Wright, Ayers, Unger, Bell, et al

[Clarice]

What is it about Obama which so attracts flies to him?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

I encourage bonebreaking to stop the Sierra Club.

[Clarice]

You have my vote, Iggy.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

Fox News:

"Here are a few little-known facts about Paul Ryan's supposedly slash-and-burn budget plan. 

"--Government spending increases almost every year over the next decade. 
--Tax and other revenue rises year after year.   
--The 10-year deficit is still $3 trillion. 

"The fact that Ryan's spending plans grow the federal budget over the long term is one that could easily be lost in the political melee underway in the wake of his selection as Mitt Romney's running mate. 

"To be sure, Ryan is proposing major changes to Medicare and taxation that Democrats see as problematic. 

"But claims that Ryan is slashing spending don't quite square with the numbers. Those claims are convenient Washington shorthand for what Ryan's plan actually proposes -- which is to slow the rate of budget growth, but still allow the budget to grow."

No question it's better than nothing. But the people of this country will never allow it to happen, let alone a plan that actually did balance the budget. The fault does not lie with John Boehner or the GOP. The fault lies with who the American people have become.

And that is what many, many people have been urging for years they would indeed become.

[Manuel Transmission]

We've spent some time with Vallely and his wife. He's a lovely man. No hint of ego or holier than thou attitude. Hard to believe he is that unassuming with that remarkable background.

[Clarice]

A 233 Billion barrel oil field discovered in Australia..more peak oil

[Peter]

even educated flies do it (lun)

[Peter]

easy set up line, Clarice, you could have been a comedian's straight man, like Bud Abbott.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

Boston Herald:

"U.S. Sen. John Kerry breezed through a relatively easy hearing as senators quizzed him about the growing Iranian nuclear threat and President Obama’s actions following a terrorist attack in Benghazi before they vote on his confirmation as Secretary of State. 'My sense is your confirmation will go through very, very quickly,' said U.S. Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn), the ranking Republican on the committee, later adding, 'I know you’re going to be confirmed in the next very few days.'"

[Rob Crawford]

What is it about Obama which so attracts flies to him?

They know what he's full of.

[Threadkiller]

Ryan's plan is better than the current plan.

McClintock voted for Ryan's plan.

Therefore, McClintock lacks credibility.

[Peter]

What is it about Obama which so attracts flies to him?

They know what he's full of.

LUN

[rse]

Frau-Van Jones knows precisely how to define communitarianism. He is a contributor to certain books I have. Moreover, the book Reflexive Modernization I mentioned today is graphic beyond my wildest dreams. Now I know for sure why I kept encountering the Communitarians in the definitions of College and Career Ready and also Positive School Climate.

Funny. I think they really did think no one would catch these actual definitions.

Beasts-I had an older VW bug in high school that my dad was quite proud of as he had very little in it and I had transportation. That's how he thinks. Never could get him to live vicariously through me like some parents. When I asked what I was getting as a high school present, he replied "College."

I made the same mistake of not checking oil. Later we were coming back from Hilton Head. Getting gas there was a woman in a Jag V12 sedan who had done the same. His comment is at least I learned my lesson on something easy and cheap to change out.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

TK, that syllogism is absurd. McClintock lacks credibility because he hasn't said what spending he wants to cut, nor has Ryan. Ryan plays the old Democrats' game of calling a reduction in the rate of growth of spending a "cut."

Yes, the Ryan plan is better than nothing. No, the Ryan plan does not call for cuts.

I'll repeat: the Republicans can derive no benefit from the debt ceiling issue. And they won't.

[Old Lurker]

DoT "Would he reduce SS benefits, or Medicare, or Medicaid?"

Until we hear someone say that out loud, we have not heard from a truth teller with brains to do simple math.

Until we elect the person willing to say that, there is no hope for pulling out of this spiral.

[narciso]

I think we call what McGee is looking for, is called the Borg, when you hear words like multiple literacies, that usually means that you don't have a grasp on the basic concept of reading, which Ray Bradbury was very prescient about, get rid of the impulse to read, and the books can be disposed,

[Clarice]

rse, Instapundit has a link to a study by a Stanford professor which indicates when you factor out immigrant children and compare advantaged kids v disadvantaged kids, the US is performing very well in educational performance.

[narciso]

Yes, but you still are poaching the same vein of crazy, one notices she doesn't actually criticize it;

http://twitchy.com/2013/01/23/epic-drubbing-sparks-joan-walsh-whine-whats-a-little-trutherism-dont-you-know-who-i-am-ace-of-spades-morons/

[Mark Folkestad]

Daddy, that was a lovely Old Believer family pictured. It sounds a bit iffy, unless they jazz it up as the did with the Amish in the lousy, phony new "Amish Mafia". You do have it pegged about the over-abundance of Alaska-connected reality shows. "Ax Men" on the History Channel has participating company named Papac Logging, that is based on Prince of Wales Island. Sometimes I see familiar scenes, and my friends up there admit to knowing a couple of the morons on that crew. I imagine that I'll wind up knowing a few of the knuckleheads too, once I'm settled. The whole island, America's third-largest, has less than ten thousand inhabitants.

It may have been missed by some, but I posted some links to the hot T-Mobile gal on the old thread.

[jimmyk]

I'll repeat: the Republicans can derive no benefit from the debt ceiling issue. And they won't.

I may have overlooked your earlier postings on this, but I'm not following your point.

I am in favor of any gimmick that results in lower spending. Lower than what? Lower than what would happen in absence of the gimmick. While I share your disdain for applying the word "cuts" to that, the point is simply that we should do whatever will keep taxes (or inflation) from ultimately increasing more rather than less.

Republicans who commit to lower spending without specifying the cuts are simply refusing to play the game with the Dems of "you show me yours first," which always results in the media and whatever special interest group gets harmed screaming bloody murder. In that situation, the best bet is to force cuts via the debt limit, or by any other mechanism from which there is no escape.

[derwill]

It's not only that the American people say they want cuts in the abstract, but the minute you mention specifics they balk . . . It's that, from what I understand, so much of our economic activity today now comes from monetized federal spending (rather than private sector production of wealth), that if you were cut too much government spending too fast, you would precipitate a severe recession, if not a depression. A la Greece today.

It's a debt bubble. We can't quit borrowing, QE-ing and spending to any significant degree because it will all collapse, but if we keep on doing what we have been doing--or worse, if Obama and the Dems get their way--it's going to burst. DOOM no matter what we do.

It seems to me Ryan's plan is to slow down inflating the debt bubble while doing other things, like opening up energy production and slashing regulations and red tape, to stimulate private sector growth to cushion the blow that the slow down of government spending would do to the economy. That's what Romney was going to do if he'd won and it might have worked, although we would still have had to endure a pretty bad recession before things turned around, likely costing the GOP the House in 2014. So basically they would have had two years to turn things around. Would have been hard.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--"Ax Men" on the History Channel...--

It is no mean feat to make the flotsam and jetsam which make up logging crews look even stupider than they really are, but that show somehow manages to pull it off.

[Threadkiller]

Is sequestration a "cut"?

[daddy]

Behind as normal but just caught a segment of the Dennis Miller Show that was very fun. Dennis had on some guy who was Bibi Netanyahu's former publicity guy, and they exchanged some very funny quips back and forth about the recent Israeli Election. For instance, explaining the Election, the guy said that in Israel, you don't vote for a particular guy, you vote for a Party, and this time there were some 35 parties running.

Dennis asked what sort of parties and the guy said there was one party which was the "Let us legally smoke marijuana" party. That got a big laugh out of Dennis who went off on a "how do they know if it's Kosher Pot?" riff to which the guy instantly replied that it has to be grown in a Rabbi's back yard. Very fun.

Anyhow, that got me thinking about the Left despising Israel. The Left is always out there for secularism, and do your own thing and against religious zealotry etc. They see the Mideast with it's Muslim BrotherHood Party, it's Hezbalah's, it's PLO's, it's anti-Zion Party, it's Party of Islamic Martyrs of God Party, etc, yet somehow the country they see as the problem is the one with the "Let Us Smoke Pot" Party.

It really makes zero sense at all.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"In that situation, the best bet is to force cuts via the debt limit, or by any other mechanism from which there is no escape."

But all Obama has to do is refuse. Then the spending stops temporarily at the places of his choosing, the public goes nuts and the likely outcome of it all is a Dem house in 2014.

[jimmyk]

What's your preferred alternative, DoT?

[narciso]

No, they are not, daddy, they hate Christian bitter clingers more, and Israeli settlers are like that
in spades.

[Beasts of England]

Old Lurker@3:37 - Completely honest. Too many BMWs to count, an occasional Porsche, several Jags and nine Ferraris. But, the vehicle I loved the most was my 1992 Ford Bronco. I'm quite sincere about that, as well.

Go look at iowahawk's Earth Day Cruise from any year and you can see a different Ferrari of mine. Last year's cruise photo even includes the Beast himself, in all his glory...

[jimmyk]

It really makes zero sense at all.

Makes sense to me. They hate America and all that it stands for, and they know a strong Israel is good for America. They know that Israel's enemies hate America. It's an easy decision.

[Beasts of England]

Ig@5:40 - I briefly watched that show for a few minutes the other night after you had posted the comment about your truck being visible in a forrest via Google Earth. Crazy!

Hope your more if an evil land robber baron dude than an ax kinda guy...

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Beasts,
It would be tough for any company to remain in business long that engaged in the idiocies on that show. "Good" TV doesn't equal real logging.
They had a company on the first year which was run by a large but mild mannered guy who produced no drama, no flying axes, no pointlessly broken equipment or the like. Needless to say his company wasn't invited back. I haven't watched it since.
Logging is already incredibly dangerous enough when people act sensibly.
Guys like those clowns usually end up fired, if only so the rest of us can survive.
American Loggers about a company in Maine and Swamp Loggers about a guy in North Carolina were much more realistic and of course I don't think either one is still on; they didn't chase any employees with a running chainsaw.

[Beasts of England]

rse@5:04 - Great story about the V-12. My Dad also drove a VW bug forever. He had no use for fancy cars...

[daddy]

The bummer now about the Media is that they are now all unleashed to promote Hillary. At least back when she was running in 2008 the Media had to choose sides, and they also had to keep her a bit on the back burner (no negative publicity) during Obama's second Campaign run.

But now that Obama is done, and she is out of the Administration, all their forces can be safely marshaled to burnish her reputation and devote themselves to getting her elected in 2016. That has already started (see yesterday). Biden has zero chance.

It will be awful tough to find a Dem candidate the MSM would sooner get behind than Hillary---1st woman etc, blah, blah, blah.
I don't see Cuomo or any of the other potentials having a ghost of a chance of challenging her. 4 Years is a long time of course, but still, who else out there do you guys see as somebody the MSM would carry water for more than Hillary? Michelle Obama?

[Mark Folkestad]

Excellent summary of "Ax Men", Iggy. I've found myself wondering how you and they can be in the same business. Heck, even in the same species.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"What's your preferred alternative, DoT?"

I really don't have one, Jimmy. The point I am trying to make is that there is no way out because of the people we have become. Remember, the British threw out Winston Churchill in favor of Clement Atlee. They became the people they are today because they wanted to.

[jimmyk]

DoT, I'm going to remind you of your own oft-pronounced standard that you can't critique a view without having a preferred alternative. Not that that is binding on you, of course. :)

[centralcal]

B.O.E. is this you?

Pretty car! It doesn't look wrecked, so maybe that isn't you, after all?

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

It really makes zero sense at all.

Like so many things. I constantly ask myself why Obama wants to destroy this country. He's out of power in 4 years and I can't imagine him doing anything for anyone but himself. Is it because he is too stupid to realize that is what he doing? I doubt it. Is it to make he and his buddies rich into eternity? That seems most likely - but sheesh what a price? How low, ungrateful and hateful would you have to be to do that.

[Jim Eagle]

The guy who lived in our condo building when we first came back from the UK had Tom Selleck's red Ferrari from Magnum P.I.

I asked him if I could sit in it and have my pic taken. He told me I would never fit. I'm 6'2" as NK and jimmyk can attest, and he was right, I couldn't fit into the car. But somehow Selleck could:)

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

He's an ideologue Jane.
They pave the road to hell with their fellow citizens not good intentions.

[Rob Crawford]

Jane, I don't think Obama sees what he's doing as destroying the country. To the contrary, I think he believes he's "saving" it, in both a physical and pseudo-spiritual sense. Which Democrat said something about government being the instrument for our collective salvation?

Sure, the rest of us see the destructive direct and indirect results of his policies and rhetoric. But he's in the "I'm making an omelet!" mindset, and doesn't give a rip if we wanted those eggs whole.