Thinking Of Bumper Stickers...

Drawn from the "Economists Do It With Models" genre and inspired by Obama's Second Inaugural, I propose:

Liberals Do It With Government Assistance

Hmm - that's putting the 'Big' in 'Big Government'.  Yeah, I'll be here all week. But the week is nearly over...

Comments

[rse]

Jane-it's not this country he wants to wreck per se but the West generally. Edward Said and then Ayers must have been nitro on a worldview that was already radicalized at Occidental per John Drew.

There are plenty of people with fancy degrees who have never been forced in life to figure out how the world works. And they think their degree validates their every move and thought.

Feeling better?

[centralcal]

Jane: Looking at your screen name, "mock the media," I thought you might be interested in this post by Ace - however, if not, do please scroll to the very end where he quotes one of his commenters. We must do something about the media.

[rse]

To follow up on Rob's point the book Witness makes the point in discussing CPUSA members and travellers who turned to spying. They never saw themselves as betraying the US because they believed they were midwifing a greater truth and the next stage of history.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Jane, I don't think Obama sees what he's doing as destroying the country. To the contrary, I think he believes he's "saving" it, in both a physical and pseudo-spiritual sense.

I do understand that. But it's just not possible to be that stupid. Or I'm missing something. I can understand being like that at 21, but not at whatever age he is. Then again, he's never had a job...

[boris]

"never saw themselves as betraying the US"

But Obungo and his ilk do in fact regard regular Americans with contempt and has less than zero concern for the suffering they inflict.

So IMO the good intentions argument is moot.

[boris]

*have*

[centralcal]

Wow - Drudge has 4 different photos up of Obama with flies on his face!!! Headline reads "Fly Guy." Gross.

[narciso]

Everyone he's been around, is on that same wavelength, it's sort of easier to believe that he were something alien, but he was born here, albeit
from parents who were already alienated from the traditional culture, and apparently he didn't hang
around with Lolo, who seemed to be the only one with any common sense, Heck, apparently he could have done better to hang around with Onyango, who had an appreciation of the West, despite his supposed run ins with the British authorities

[Rob Crawford]

But it's just not possible to be that stupid.

While the Khmer Rouge were shooting anyone who wore glasses and working 20% of the population to death, they thought they were taking Cambodia back to a prehistoric age of peace, plenty, and paradise.

The SS thought they were working towards the perfection of humanity while they were herding people into gas chambers.

The folks who put up posters of Che Guevera claim to be ignorant of the number of people he murdered.

People -- no matter how "smart" or "educated" -- can believe quite stupid things. The more it makes them feel superior and validates what they already wanted to do, the less likely they are to question it.

The tragedy is we have a foundation that was intended to moderate those impulses, a set of rules that let us all pursue those crazy ideas so long as we didn't force them on anyone. But we've let that get corrupted by the illusion of "perfecting" humanity...

[Rob Crawford]

Wow - Drudge has 4 different photos up of Obama with flies on his face!!! Headline reads "Fly Guy." Gross.

Maybe they're carrying messages to him.

[Janet]

To the contrary, I think he believes he's "saving" it, in both a physical and pseudo-spiritual sense. Which Democrat said something about government being the instrument for our collective salvation?

That is exactly right. liberalism is a godless belief system. No god...but there is still evil, poverty, crime, injustice (sin)....so there HAS to be an answer. Government/control/everyone doing what they say is the answer for libs...it is their "savior". If only everyone would do what we say, the world would be perfect - utopia.

It also explains why they hate Israel. Israel & the traditional Judeo-Christian West cannot be tolerated because of their belief in God. With God, there is an answer to all the problems of this world. With God, individuals change so societies change. There isn't a need for huge, overbearing government & laws because God-fearing, moral,honorable individuals don't have to be controlled.

squaredance wrote this on the Pravda thread - "We just weakly give up the country because of spiritual sloth, because we believe what the media tells us, becuase we did not pay attention to what they were teaching our children, because we were cowed by political correctness."

So true, so sad. We're running on the fumes of our Judeo-Christian heritage...

[Beasts of England]

centralcal@7:11 - C'est moi.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"you can't critique a view without having a preferred alternative"

Touche. But I wasn't critiquing any particular view as much as I was simply saying the whole enterprise is hopeless.

This is not one of my more optimistic days.

[narciso]

I know you're shocked as well:

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/01/24/academics-for-obamacare-stunned-to-find-the-cost/

[Janet]

Great Ace link, centralcal.

[Beasts of England]

JiB@7:31 - Selleck is the same height as me - 6'-4". They removed the seat rails from his car so he would fit. I also owned a 308 GTS QV, but relative to Selleck, I have longer legs / shorter torso, so I could fit in it. Barely.

[Rob Crawford]

We're running on the fumes of our Judeo-Christian heritage...

Nah.

"Old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost."

It's just that there's no cost to ignoring Kipling's "Gods of the Copybook Headings". Once those costs return -- and they will -- then people will find that their grandparents and all those fuddy-duddy religious people were on to something.

The costs will be tragic, but the outcome of hubris always is.

[matt]

JiB;

Some Ferraris can fit tall guys; most can't.Most of the were built for stylish Italian autostradisti who are smaller than the average American. But it boils down to every model is different.

Selleck's car should have been adjusted. I don't remember the plane of his eyes above the windshield, which would have been sorta goofy looking. You could get a few inches of clearance by moving the mounting brackets for the seats.I remember something vaguely about that particular car and will try to recall it.

A buddy of mine was a very successful executive in Paris years ago. he had several exotics and as an ex-football player was huge. So he had them all adjusted for his height.

Somehow, he got to know Boomer, who would borrow his cars when he was within a few hundred miles. Then came a bunch of football and NBA players, who would reciprocate when he was in the States. Sort of a Big & Tall Avis.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

CC,

That's a great link. It's hard not to be demoralized as hell.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Al Franken is currently staring at me from the right sidebar asking "Are you a person? (Not a corporation)
Help Al Franken overturn Citizen[sic] United"

The irony that the left is hellbent on overturning citizens uniting collectively and voluntarily to address the government and political issues is breathtaking.
They're "communitiarians" only if it is via the coercion and power of the state or a union.
They absolutely detest voluntary collections of individuals addressing anything or even existing, but they cloak it under the shibboleth they're for the individual; the little guy.

[fdcol63]

Janet, if anyone bothers to actually watch the Yuri Bezmenov lecture that I linked to earlier (in this thread, I think), which he did back in 1983, he makes the exact same point regarding religion and spirituality, and offers it as a remedy to the subversion and demoralization strategy that the Left is currently conducting against the West. It's at the end of the video.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--JiB@7:31 - Selleck is the same height as me - 6'-4". They removed the seat rails from his car so he would fit. I also owned a 308 GTS QV, but relative to Selleck, I have longer legs / shorter torso, so I could fit in it. Barely.--

I remember one Magnum where they gave him a Series 2 E Type to tool around in and they had his head sticking over the windscreen ridiculously to make it look like a chump car.
I'm just short of 6' 4" and fit very comfortably in my Series One coupe and just watched 6' 5" Jeremy Clarkson sporting about in the first E Type roadster. He was a bit tall in the saddle but they must have had Selleck sitting on a couple of Honolulu phone books.

[Rob Crawford]

The irony that the left is hellbent on overturning citizens uniting collectively and voluntarily to address the government and political issues is breathtaking.

See post Insty linked about the "going alone fallacy".

Money quote: "The idea that you're "alone" unless you're being directed by the government strikes me as dehumanizing and almost abusive."

LUN

(I'd strike "almost".)

[narciso]

They do understand at an instinctual level, who their opposition is, that is why they strike at those particular institutions, with the hardest blows, and those political figures who most readily
live by those values,

[Beasts of England]

Ig@8:29 - Series One coupe - pure! Nice guns and nice cars. My kinda guy. (in a completely heteronormative kinda way, of course...)

[narciso]

Just like the Tea Party, right;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/second-occupy-oakland-leftist-sentenced-to-prison-for-shooting-death-sexual-assault/

There's a touch of irony, regarding the Citizens United case, had they not been as resolute, bringing down the McCain/Feingold hammer on this
tiny snippet of contrary opinion, the Court might not have voted with such emphasis,

[centralcal]

Jane and Janet: I have come to the conclusion that it is not the Obama's of the world we need to overtake and defeat, it is the propagandists disguised as "media" or "entertainment" or even "education" who are the enemy and who prop up the "leader" who will conform to their ideals. Not the other way around.

We are so far behind, I fear it is really too late to catch up and overtake, or even merely break even with them. I am way beyond "mocking" the media. I am at the "despise and defeat" the media stage, albeit I think it may be too late.

[Janet]

Here's fdcol63's video link again - Tomas Schuman (Yuri Bezmenov) L.A. 1983

[Janet]

Agree, cc.

[fdcol63]

centralcal, I'm at the "Off with their heads!" stage with regard to the lying Leftist liars in the media, academia, and Hollywood.

[rse]

On height and sports cars, years ago went to Miami on vacation with a friend. Maybe jr high. Her Parents took us for dinner at a steakhouse where we ran into Griese and Csonka at the height of the Dolphins fame. For years I told the story of watching Csonka get into an MGB.

Lawyer I worked with heard the story (we were talking cars) and said yeah the MGB fit really tall people because of the way seat pushed back. He was 6'6.

Who knew?

[fdcol63]

In the Bezmenov video, start at about 58:25 for the religion/spirituality part.

[Beasts of England]

Csonka in an MGB! That's some serious juxtaposition...

[narciso]

That's a sweet ride, Beasts, but seriously I'm a little concerned with all those damaged vehicles, specially the jags,

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--Ig@8:29 - Series One coupe - pure!--

Oh but that Moss gearbox - pure tractor.

[centralcal]

You know narciso, Beasts is probably one of those beasts on the road that we have all observed, but wouldn't wanna ride with. I see visions of burning rubber, and skids around corners, and, oh my!

Aren't (or perhaps past tense is more appropriate - weren't) Jags at one time notorious for breaking down?

[DrJ]

weren't Jags at one time notorious for breaking down?

Lucas: Prince of Darkness. :)

[Beasts of England]

narciso - I've been enduring multiple and profound personal issues in the past few years, and my accidents (though in driveways / parking lots) are very much related to mental distraction. Thankfully I do better on the open road.

Ig - Especially when it's cold, huh?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--Aren't (or perhaps past tense is more appropriate - weren't) Jags at one time notorious for breaking down?--

They frequently had electrical problems in the fifties and sixties, cc, due to Lucas [the Prince of Darkness] electricals.
In the seventies and eighties after Jag was absorbed by quasi socialist British Leyland their reliability was close to nil.
After Ford bought Jaguar in IIRC the late eighties reliability improved.
Jag is now owned by the Indian corp TaTa which seems an appropriate name for the makers of "the greatest crumpet collector known to man" [Road and Track editor Henry Manny's description of the E Type] :)

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--Ig - Especially when it's cold, huh?-

No synchros on first so it was a bit of a beast of england hot or cold.

The 4.2 liter fixed the gearbox and the atrocious seats in late '64 but I was a purist, AKA a dummy.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

Simply suicidal thinking:

"(CNSNews.com) - Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Thursday that whether they are male or female 'everyone is entitled to a chance' to become a combat soldier in a military that will now adopt "'ender netural' standards.

“'If members of our military can meet the qualifications for a job--and let me be clear, we’re not talking about reducing the qualifications for a job--if they can meet the qualifications for the job then they should have the right to serve,' Panetta said at a Pentagon press conference."

I can tell you all sorts of "qualifications" they can't meet, and that no civilized nation would permit its women to attempt to meet. But no one is going to talk about these qualifications, and it doesn't matter because none of these people will ever even acknowledge that they are qualifications.

[Clarice]

One of my husband's partners had a jag in the 70's and we ended up always driving him around because his car was always in the garage,

Maybe what we need is a gang of paparazzi's who follow media stars around snapping shots of them at their least flattering.

[MarkO]

To a friend who said she would like to have dinner with Obama, I said that he would have no interest in eating with her and that, in actual fact, he did not like her.

An odd, for her, silence greeted me.

[Beasts of England]

My Mom had nothing but nightmares with hers - eighties and nineties - and at the time there was no local dealership. Brave woman...

[Old Lurker]

Rob, you are making a lot of sense tonight.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Doesn't he usually?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

I do question the sincerity of many lefties though.

As one of the bigwigs of the New Left admitted one time, all the left wing crap of the sixties was really about scoring with dopey, hippy chicks.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

I had a candy-apple red Jaguar XJS convertible in the late 80's and loved the thing, but it ha a fuel feed problem the dealer couldn't solve so they gave me a later one--fire-engine red this time--under the CA lemon law.

Anyone who has never driven a 12-cylinder car should do so immediately. And you may as well make it a fire-engine red Jag convertible and take it for a spin on Sunset Boulevard with the top down..

[rse]

DOT-exactly. We deliberately put them through inhuman conditions to make sure they can take it. This is just an excuse to neuter the parts that work while catering to people who largely hate the military anyway.

You would be ill if you read how often the social and emotional emphasis or systems thinking or just OBE segues into and this will make for peaceful humanity.

Gag.

[Clarice]

It was Hillary's push to promote women in the military who got us that goofball who never paid attention to what her troops at Abu Ghraib were doing. When they yanked her home she was arrested for shoplifting.

Did you see? Scott Walker's efforts have turned Wi from a deep in debt state to one with a $484 million surplus. Maybe I should move back .

[narciso]

Ah, yea, Janis Karpinski, the one who defaulted to blaming Mossad for that fustercluck,

[Threadkiller (Get off your couch and leave the GOP!)]

Finally a car thread.

[Rob Crawford]

Is Karpinski still on the leftist lecture circuit? For the person responsible for something the left considered the Most! Horrible! Crime! Ever!, they sure did love her.

[Threadkiller (Get off your couch and leave the GOP!)]

The only British car I own is a Royale RP33. It looks like this.

I have not raced in just over a decade. Coincidentally I have been married just over a decade.

[MarkO]

My understanding is that women hate cars like the one DoT drove on Sunset. In fact, I further understand they can make it difficult for the driver.

[Melinda Romanoff]

My favorite?

A '78 Alfa Veloce 2000. Unfortunately, the block and sleeve technology gave you about 3 years before gasketball.

[narciso]

Looks good,

http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/793002,10787/1974-Alfa-Romeo-GT-Veloce-2000_photo.aspx#photo

[Rick Ballard]

Clarice,

A very nice illustration of the fact solutions will not be found by peering into the depths of the Deep Blue Cesspools. Nor will they be found by pondering the utterances of yet another legacy retread oligarch in waiting.

The Great OPM Famine has not abated and it was an OPM Famine which finally brought down the commie hallucination in the USSR.

[Clarice]

I don't know, I think DoT probably looked real fetching behind the wheel of that car.

[cathyf]

Back when my dad was in grad school and drove a VW bug, he knew one of the basketball players who said he had a bug, too. My dad was amazed that a 7-foot tall guy could get in one, until he explained that he had taken the drivers seat out and drove the car sitting in the back seat. Perfect fit!

[Captain Hate]

Jag is now owned by the Indian corp TaTa

TaTa was huge when I was in India in 2007; I doubt that the intervening 6 years have diminished that.

[Melinda Romanoff]

TK-

Do you do the pedal weld for early Bug cable issues? Just curious.

[MarkO]

Oh, he was fetching, all right.

[narciso]

I didn't realize that firm is nearly 150 years old,

[Captain Hate]

I can tell you all sorts of "qualifications" they can't meet, and that no civilized nation would permit its women to attempt to meet. But no one is going to talk about these qualifications, and it doesn't matter because none of these people will ever even acknowledge that they are qualifications.

Mrs H was indoctrinated by the dumbasses at Bowling Green that the only difference between men and women in basketball was social conditioning. I told her that was ridiculous and that the best women players in the world weren't significantly better than I was at the time and I was terrible on an absolute basis. She didn't believe me until a neighbor who was a doctor of anatomy (female) told her that what she was told was nonsense and anybody promulgating that should be terminated.

[Captain Hate]

Is Karpinski still on the leftist lecture circuit? For the person responsible for something the left considered the Most! Horrible! Crime! Ever!, they sure did love her.

They made perpetual excuses for that dimwit; claiming she was taking the fall for her superiors. I have to admit I made some derogatory Polish references at the time that I'm not totally proud of.

[Melinda Romanoff]

narciso-

Here's the street version.

[matt]

There are already hundreds if not thousands of women serving on the front lines.

Corpswomen, medics, combat arms specialists. They're all out there already. They're not 11B's (infantry) but they're pulling their weight every day. If a woman can pass the requirements, they usually do okay. But there are few if any women who can pass some of the physical requirements for certain specialties.

rse, are you talking about Whittaker Chambers book? I thought I was one of the 100 people who actually read it way back when. He was not a popular guy, and he was spot on about that scumbag Hiss.

Never an apology from those Leftist bastards. Sort of like the Rosenberg case. The Soviets had us wired and there were enough out and out traitors and fellow travelers to complete the damage. Sort of like today if you ask me.

As to XKE's I will never forget coming home one Saturday afternoon to a pair of firetrucks hosing down my neighbor's XKE Coupe after the dash panel went poof. The car was engulfed; en fuego even. An ex - XKE even. We commiserated over a number of beers and cursed Lucas.

A friend had the V-12 convertible which was in the shop more than it was on the road. But damn, it was cool. I even got looks as the passenger.

A Chevy crate engine helped a bit, but the Lucas/Brit electrics were fatal in one of three cases. Better HP/weight ratio and incredible reliability but there went the authenticity.

It is sad seeing a high performance car burn or crash. Watching some of the guys at VARA or other vintage events can be cringeworthy. The cars were squirrely then and more so now. @ 1971 is my cutoff. That's when some of the truly neat cars began getting fuel injection and rudimentary safety devices. Probably the last year of true performance in the old school sense.

Nixon has his Mercedes 600; the last of the muscle cars were gasping like dinosaurs but oh so cool; and there were some real screamers coming out of Munich and Stuttgart and Modena.Even Renault had the Alpine, which is one of my all times. 4 and 6 cylinder ve-hi-cles that made cubic inches or cc's look a shade overrated.

It was the last time the Grim Reaper really made a pass through motorsports for me personally as well. McLaren and Mark Donahue gone was a punch to the gut for me. Indy was going out of control and Can Am and the Mustang- Vette- Camaro battles were gone.

Anyone who wants to talk cars, we can go off line....sorry, I'll go back to my corner now....

[daddy]

That story I linked yesterday about all the sponsors except Progressive Insurance bailing out on sponsoring some well known annual Outdoor/Sports Show, due to the Shows new anti-gun policy, has an update. From an Instapundit link:

NRA boycott kills outdoors show that banned assault weapons

A massive boycott sparked by the NRA and other gun-rights groups outraged that the nation’s largest outdoors show banned the exhibition of assault weapons has caused the show’s organizers to abruptly cancel the week-long event in Harrisburg, Pa.

Well Done, NRA!

[Melinda Romanoff]

matt-

I will never forget the label in the glove box warning the operator of the V-12 to inflate the tires an extra 5 PSI for speeds in excess of 120 mph. Dutifully done, in a black coupe, for the Florida Turnpike, back in the late '60's. Whoosh, for a little kid.

[narciso]

Well recall matt, we uncovered a long term agent for the DGI, for 30 years, different destination, same play book, from the same Brahmin background,

[Kat]

Rob,
Your perspicacity is very refreshing. It is heartening to find somebody who understands the forces of darkness that surround us without necessity of experiencing them first hand before. Too many Americans are naive as to the existential danger we are facing and still believe "it cannot happen here".

[Melinda Romanoff]

G'night all.

Big day tomorrow!

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Very cool car TK.
I still say an excellent case can be made that the Brabham, Lotus and Gurney Eagles of the mid 60s were the best looking cars ever of any type. Surely the purest form. Four wheels, a cockpit and an engine;

Bigger pic here and here.

[DrJ]

Nice, but I love the Ferrari 156 that Phil Hill drove with such success.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"There are already hundreds if not thousands of women serving on the front lines."

There are front lines, and then there are front lines. Unless Panetta is merely announcing that the status quo will remain unchanged, he is telling us that women will now go to places they have not heretofore been permitted to go. The reason they have not been permitted has nothing to do with sexism or discrimination. It is rooted in common sense, decency, and the hope that those who go to these places will have the best possible chance of coming back.

[Captain Hate]

Since we're talking about high performance cars:

Before I started college I was working over the summer as a mechanic in the local Chrysler/Plymouth dealer. One day as I was leaving work I noticed this white Belvedere 3 had been dropped off on a side lot looking nondescript except for this ginormous scoop on the hood that looked more functional than the usual ones. I popped the hood and there was a 426 hemi with 2 four barrels. Things were slow in the showroom since it was around dinner time so I collared a salesman who I knew raced at the local strip and said "Have you checked out that beast?" He grabbed the keys and tags and off we were. In the trunk was an aluminum sheet which sealed off the engine and had a gasket that fit flush against the hood scoop bottom. It had a torqueflight automatic transmission with the shift lever on the steering column but the progression from first to third went downward instead of the standard way. On the inside of windshield was a sticker saying that the car was designed for supervised acceleration trials. We had no choice but go to a local stretch of a not very used road where the beginning and end of a quarter mile portion were very well known to the local car fans. We were lucky not to get pulled over since the sales guy was determined to road test that sucker right from the get go. The raw power was just incredible. When we finally got to the quarter mile, he stopped and then just slammed it. We were going well over 100 when he put it into third; and it still chirped the tires. That car was ferocious.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"If a woman can pass the requirements, they usually do okay."

And on what "requirements" have they been tested concerning, for example, large-group nudity and bodily functions at extremely close quarters? How will they be tested?

And why?

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The requirement would be the right ear to steering wheel clearance, DoT.

[Threadkiller (Get off your couch and leave the GOP!)]

Sorry, I mixed comments there...

[daddy]

I was trying to find a picture of supertall Basketball Player, Manute Bol, in an automobile. I vaguely recalled Manute in some ad for I think VW.

I couldn't find it, but I did find this shot I had never seen of Manute swimming in a swimming pool.

Amazing how alien this looks. I really liked Manute. A great fan favorite and by all accounts a super nice guy.

[Threadkiller (Get off your couch and leave the GOP!)]

This weld, Mel?

Did a seagull do the welding in that pic?

[Ignatz]

Chrysler kinda shocked the drag world with their automatic equipped drag cars in the mid sixties CH. Up til then they were not even considered thinkable but slapped on the end of a hemi they soon won title after title in pro stock and super stock.

BTW the first black dude just won a major auto racing championship when Antron Brown won Top Fuel last fall.

[Threadkiller (Get off your couch and leave the GOP!)]

I love it CH!

Probably a $5,000,000 car now.

[Ignatz]

--Did a seagull do the welding in that pic?--

I wondered where I put that pedal. Just needs a little grinding. :)

[daddy]

January 24th---A day that will live in infamy.

[Ignatz]

--The requirement would be the right ear to steering wheel clearance, DoT.--

That would be even funnier if it wasn't so true.
There were a lot of competent women in the AF, well some, but the disruption and distraction of units and moral was horrendous.

[Ignatz]

And time to retire.

[Captain Hate]

Chrysler kinda shocked the drag world with their automatic equipped drag cars in the mid sixties CH. Up til then they were not even considered thinkable but slapped on the end of a hemi they soon won title after title in pro stock and super stock.

Yeah Iggy, the torqueflites turned everybody's heads around. Plus when they re-introduced the hemis that just cranked things up another major notch. The original funny cars were around then with the altered wheel bases. When they used "just" fuel injectors they still would run them through four speed manuels but once they added superchargers they had to resort to automatics to keep all that torque under control.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

More suicide, drip by drip:

"The U.S. military reportedly ordered soldiers to remove a cross and a steeple from atop a chapel and to board up cross-shaped windows at a remote American forward operating base in Afghanistan. The removal of Christian symbols from the chapel at Forward Operating Base Orgun-E came after a solider complained — leading American Atheists president David Silverman to send a letter to the Pentagon. 'Soldiers with minority religious beliefs and atheists often feel like second-class citizens when Christianity is seemingly officially endorsed by their own base,' Silverman told Fox News."

By all means, better to deprive all the other soldiers of the comfort they derive from their religion than to let one of them feel like a second-class citizen.

What will the historians of the future make of this shit? (They'll probably applaud it.)

[Captain Hate]

I really liked Manute. A great fan favorite and by all accounts a super nice guy.

I think Manute died nearly penniless because he donated all his money back to Africa to help people out. He was in Cleveland for a while because I believe he went to Cuyahoga Community College where Charles Oakley discovered him.

He was well liked by everybody.

[Captain Hate]

What will the historians of the future make of this shit? (They'll probably applaud it.)

Depends on who writes it. On that depressing note I'm going to bed.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

I saw Manute in the Oakland airport once. He was wearing a light beige suit and smiling from ear to ear. He looked for all the world as though he were walking on stilts.

He is credited with originating the phrase "my bad." No one ever had a bad word to say about him.

[Beasts of England]

With royalties due to Ignatz:

...an automotive thread ensued.

[jimmyk]

No one ever had a bad word to say about him.

There's also this (via Wiki):

In the 1990s, Bol tried to warn the US, which included visiting the Pentagon, meeting with 58 members of Congress, and the State Department, of the rising threat of Islamic fundamentalism generally and of Osama bin Laden, specifically, who had been given safe-haven by the Sudanese government in the early-mid 1990s. He said that his concerns were dismissed.

He has a son who is 6'5" in the 7th grade.

[Threadkiller]

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal called on the Republican Party to "stop being the stupid party" on Thursday as GOP leaders promised fundamental changes to help stave off future losses.

In the keynote address at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting, Jindal said the GOP doesn't need to change its values but "might need to change just about everything else we are doing."

"We've got to stop being the stupid party. It's time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults," he said. "We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I'm here to say we've had enough of that."

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2013/01/24/jindal-gop-should-change-just-about-everything

There is no need to leave a party that is ready to leave itself.

[Threadkiller]

--There were a lot of competent women in the AF, well some, but the disruption and distraction of units and moral was horrendous.--

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Goodnight.

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"There is no need to leave a party that is ready to leave itself."

Here's a suggestion: why don't you just leave, and then communicate with your brethren who have left with you?

And we can offer you this deal: please stop boring us with exhortations to leave our party, and we won't bore you with exhortations to come back.

A win-win, right?

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Party of stupid