Cuomo Still Delaying On Fracking

NY Governor Andrew Cuomo won't let his Presidential hopes for 2016 be derailed by a lack of evidence of fracking's perils:

New York Governor Puts Off Decision on Drilling

By DANNY HAKIM

ALBANY — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo is becoming Hamlet on the Shale.

On Tuesday, Mr. Cuomo’s administration again delayed making a decision on whether to allow hydraulic fracturing, a controversial drilling method used to extract natural gas from rock formations like the Marcellus Shale, which extends from the Appalachian Mountains to New York.

Hydraulic fracturing, also known as fracking, has been under review by state regulators since before Mr. Cuomo took office in January 2011. But the governor has had difficulty deciding, vacillating between allowing gas drilling in the Southern Tier of New York — near the Pennsylvania border — and continuing to ban it. In a letter on Tuesday, the state’s health commissioner, Dr. Nirav R. Shah, said that a review by his agency of the potential effects on health from the drilling was continuing, and he recommended that the administration not move forward until it was completed.

Without the report, the state will not meet a deadline this month to issue a new environmental impact statement, and that will likely require it to start the regulatory process over and begin a new 45-day comment period.

The party of science and evidence already knows the answer - fracking sucks! - and they won't let a silly report sway them.

Cuomo just needs to keep running out the clock until somebody somewhere can give him the answer he needs - fracking can't be done in liberal New York.

But officials who have discussed the matter with the governor have said that his hesitation is principally political, not scientific. Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, faces strident opposition on his party’s left, and activists are continually protesting in Albany against fracking.

On the other hand, the governor has said that economic development is a priority, even as the state’s unemployment rate has fallen behind the national average during his time in office.

Hmm - bringing in Big Oil as a counterweight to Big Finance might be salutory for New York politics. And one might think that Cuomo will want a positive record on job creation, since Hillary is going to take full credit for the late 90's boom.

Comments

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Frack Cuomo.

[Jim Eagle]

What fracking difference, at this time, does it make?

[NK]

Uh-- some facts and opinions: 'Big Oil'-- no way, the drillers who do the fracking work are most decidedly not big oil-- they are not even 'big gas'. 'Big gas' gets a piece when the natgas is pipelined to market. Jobs? NYS is a job desert-- a wasteland (as is Ct and western Mass)-- a local business exec here has compared the NYS/Pa Marcellus border as like the Berlin Wall 1981-- the Pa side prosperous, the NYS side desolate. Absolutely true. Cuomo for POTUS?-- please. First off the HildaBeast people will chop him up like the chopped liver his grand dad used to sell. Second-- NYS will implode financially well before 2016, and Andrew gets it in the neck.

[Neo]

In order to register, you must:
- Apply for registration in person;
- Be a South African citizen; and
- Possess a valid bar-coded identity document or a valid temporary identity certificate.

Read more: http://www.southafrica.info/about/democracy/iec.htm#ixzz2KnbHKoa3

No mail-in registration, only if you're a citizen, and you must have bar-coded photo ID.
Damn, Rev. Al would call post-apartheid South Africa a bit .. "racist"

[hit and run]

So.

While Cuomo is drinking the fracking green koolaid, Colorado's Democratic Governor Hickenlooooooper told a Senate committee that he drank fracking fluid.

[matt]

And Obama wants to blackmail the industry by trading a Carbon Trading Plan for approval of Keystone XL.

These jerks have done their best to ensure that energy costs have doubled in the past 4 years and that they will do their best to keep it that way. It's right out of the Green playbook.

[matt]

Could last night's SOTU be called "Shovel Ready Bullshit"?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--These jerks have done their best to ensure that energy costs have doubled in the past 4 years and that they will do their best to keep it that way.--

matt, matt, matt; come on, this is how we know Barry cares about the poor.
Yes, gas prices are high but since there are no entry level jobs none of the poor can afford a car so it works out perfectly.
They do however have a free phone to call and get the bus schedule.

[Frau Mistgabel]

"Could last night's SOTU be called "Shovel Ready Bullshit"?

Sure smelled like it, matt.

[BB Key]

If I had a brother he would look like Christopher...BHO

[Captain Hate]

If I had a brother he didn't chain smoke cigarettes I would look like Christopher...BHO

[narciso]

Well that's a promise, he will keep, then again
Cuomo helped bring about the subprime collapse in his own small way, So, Forwart.

[Jim Eagle]

As if things aren't crazy enough in re: The Pope's Resignation, WND has sicced Jerome Corsi on the St. Malachy prophecy and The Final Pope: Petrus Romano.

He has the perfect candidate in Bertone

Anything to sell a book.

[Rob Crawford]

JiB -- so let's see...

o Friday we have an asteroid coming within pitching distance of the Earth.

o Later this year we'll have two new comets; no idea how visible they'll be.

o We have a guy pushing the "this is the last Pope" line.

Anymore signs heading our way? Dogs and cats living together?

[narciso]

Don't forget the human sacrifice, Rob,

according to the chronology, they are about 10 popes off the list;

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/13/blunt-we-have-the-votes-to-delay-hagel-confirmation/

[NK]

alas-- the repubs won't filibuster Hagel-- they'll use him to torture JEF about Benghazi-- but in the end, either JEF withdraws Hagel b/c of Repub Benghazi demands, or he throws them a few 'mistakes were made' morsels and the Repubs allow a vote, but either way, there won't be a filibuster IMO.

[Neo]

Ron Paul, UN Hater, Asks UN To Take RonPaul.com

Former Texas congressman Ron Paul has filed a complaint with the World Intellectual Property Organization in a bid to take over RonPaul.com, a website founded in 2008 by the former presidential campaign's supporters.

According to a blog post on the group's site, supporters had offered the congressman use of RonPaul.org — another domain owned by supporters — free of charge. They also proposed selling RonPaul.com and the group's mailing list to the foamier congressman for a quarter of a million dollars.

"Instead of responding to our offer, making a counter offer, or even accepting our free gift of RonPaul.org, Ron Paul went to the United Nations and is trying to use its legal process related to domain name disputes to actively deport us from our domain names without compensation," the owners write.

[AliceH]

--the foamier congressman--

heh

[Rob Crawford]

Ron Paul is a fraud, as bad in his own way as Obama. I've never gotten the slavish admiration some people have for him.

[AliceH]

--the repubs won't filibuster Hagel--

They're probably saying to themselves "For the Tea Party Filibuster supporters to get financial support from me they have to prove they can win doing the right thing for America won't cost me my next winnable election.

[narciso]

Yeah, Alice, 'darnak when the walls fell'

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/13/ig-add-lg-chem-to-obamas-green-tech-subsidy-flops/

[AliceH]

narc: Sokath! His eyes uncovered!

nah - probably not.

[Jim Eagle]

Ron Paul is a fraud, as bad in his own way as Obama. I've never gotten the slavish admiration some people have for him.

Rob,

Meet one of his fans and you'll understand why - weirdness attracts weirdness.

[NK]

AliceH-- thanks for Senator mccaskill for 6 more long years. My daughter's boyfriend was a Dem operative for the mccaskill team in Oct-Nov-- his report from team mccaskill was that mccaskill would not have have beaten anyone but akin. akin lost, mccaskill didn't win, per team mccaskill. facts are stubborn things.

[narciso]

No, Rove dropping Akin, as if he had been stung by an asp, on Justified, with the 5 million, probably did more to secure McCaskill's victory.

[daddy]

Test:

Knut In Happier Times.

[NK]

Facts are stubborn things-- the DNC ran against Akin and won-- they didn't run on McCaskill, because she would have lost. I listen to the winners of elections and assess how they won and act accordingly, no time or money for losers.

[daddy]

Polar Bear Update:

furry homage or creepy exploitation?

Nearly two years after the death of Berlin's favourite polar bear Knut, the city's natural history museum is using his pelt for a new exhibit.

"It's important to make clear we haven't had Knut stuffed," museum spokeswoman Gesine Steiner told the daily newspaper Bild on Tuesday. "It's an artistically valuable sculpture with the original fur."

But Knut's fans creeped out by seeing him skinned...

[jimmyk]

Facts are stubborn things: Akin wasn't a tea party candidate by any stretch of the imagination. So your example shows that the fnork can undermine a non-tea party candidate perceived to be weak. So what?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--I listen to the winners of elections and assess how they won and act accordingly, no time or money for losers.--

Since people of all political stripes win and lose local and statewide elections this is pretty close to nonsensical. Akin, since he was heavily promoted by the Dems in the primaries and had an unusual penchant for saying stupid things, seems to me far less a lesson than Cruz or Walker.

It is only on the Presidential stage where there is clear trend and that trend is, over the last forty years, clear principled conservatives are winners for the GOP and moderates, including "professional Politicians", are universally losers.

And since moderates have no intention of fixing our fiscal mess anyway, no time or money for moderates seems to me the takeaway.

[daddy]

Henry,

We're about to have our mini-Anti Scott Walker protests in Anchorage, now that our Mayor has proposed Legislation to limit the power of the Public Sector Unions.

Stand by for fireworks.

[NK]

Ig/Jimmy-- To me Akin is an exemplar of a terrible candidate who forfeited a winnable election. My point is that to effect the big changes that have to happen to the bankrupt welfare state, conservatives need votes in Congress and POTUS-- and to get those we need to win elections, first. So if --IF-- the TP generally fields ideological candidates who are unelectable, how does it help that they have the right philosophy, but can't win enough elections? So the challenge for the TP is to prove that they have winnable candidates. I attended a Cruz fundraiser here in NYC, I thought he was great candidate. We need more Cruzs, whether they are conventional Repubs or TP-- they can win, and THEN vote the right way. The challenge for Convention repubs is to show they will DO the right thing in office. I think Rubio and Ryan and Cantor and Jindal have been OK on that so far-- so far.

[henry]

Daddy, those people want to keep beer, brats, and cheese out of Alaska? I guess they can eat yellow snow or something. Besides, if they aren't wearing the blue fist t-shirts and playing drums and vuvuzelas they are doing it wrong. ; )

[Captain Hate]

Meet one of his fans and you'll understand why - weirdness attracts weirdness.

The Ronulans are too annoying to be considered cult-worthy by the Scientologists.

[Jd]

This may have been poste already, but Sultan Knish does a take off on the Superbowl commercial of "God made a farmer" It is funny.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/02/friday-afternoon-roundup-so-god-made.html

[NK]

CaptH-- Generalizations about groups are fraught things, but the Ronulan commenters on ZeroHedge are weird. Seemingly bright, educated, knowledgable, libertarian, all fine qualities-- but then suddenly over the top madness. Queer as folk.

[Captain Hate]

NK, every one of them that I've encountered, almost always by their initiative, consider Crazy Uncle and themselves to be the only people who understand the Constitution.

[NK]

CH-- I see a bit of that at ZeroHedge, but mostly it's the gold hoarding stuff. They're right about the debased Dollar, and the Fed's insanity-- but they go from that to ...infinity... and beyond.

[Janet]

Jd, that Sultan Knish post is wonderful. Thanks.

[narciso]

And this makes three;

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282881-dem-lawmaker-tweets-college-co-ed-then-deletes-messages#ixzz2Ko3BUg30

[NK]

Rep. Cohen-- what a creep.

[Captain Hate]

He was the white dimwit that tried to join the CBC and they told him GTFO, no?

[cathyf]

NK, my takeaway from Akin is that if you let democrats pick the republican nominee, then either the democrat (democrat nominee) wins or the democrat (republican nominee) wins.

[narciso]

He was also the one that circulated the 'Pontius {Pilate was a governor, Jesus was a community organizer' meme,

[GUS]

Pay Alaskan Unions minimum wage. Obama would approve.

[NK]

Akin could have dropped out in timely fashion-- he didn't. That wasn't the Dems doing. Akin owns that disaster all by himself.

[rse]

http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/throwing-an-invisibility-cloak-over-the-classroom-to-get-to-deweys-participatory-social-inquiry/ is the latest.

I have one more that is part of this series on how this gets all the way to classroom without really being visible.

I am trying to give all the concerned legislators and state school board members and local school board members and parents and everyone else in a panic more tangible to fight with as this all heats up. Especially after last night's more RTT.

[AliceH]

NK: Akin was not the tea party candidate.

Facts - stubborn.

[Rob Crawford]

Alice -- facts are not nearly as stubborn as NK.

[Thomas Collins]

If you're around, Dave(in MA), what do you think about the LUNed story? I preferred the old Ordway format with Pete the Meat and a lot of special guests, but even under the new format, I preferred Ordway and Holley to Felger and Maz (although I like Maz's 6 pm baseball show during the baseball season). But I guess if the ratings are down in a key demographic group, Jason Wolfe had to make the change.

[Janet]

I give up. The Akin bashing really gets me.
Was this level of shame directed at Lindsey Graham when he spoke out about limiting our free speech rights so muslim kooks wouldn't get mad??

[fdcol63]

Interesting.

Google (gasp!) is actually displaying an American page on their home page.

And right next to it are the words "President Obama".

Man, Google sucks.

[AliceH]

A true descriptor for Akin would be "successful 6-term U.S. Representative who's legislative record was soundly conservative".

Fact.

[fdcol63]

"American page" .... shoulda been "American flag". Sorry.

[NK]

AliceH-- see my 2:53 above;

RobC-- other than being called a good parent, your 3:55 is about the highest compliment I can ever receive --Σας ευχαριστώ πολύ (means thanks!)

[Captain Hate]

ace is losing confidence in the Tea Party. I didn't see that coming...

[daddy]

I think for cost savings we should propose that next year (2014) they simply run a rebroadcast of last nights (2013) State Of The Union Speech.

Republican's bad, Dem's good;
Won't increase the Deficit by 1 Dime
My plan for immediate Shovel Ready jobs
Investment in Education
Congress must act now to...
Immigration
If you won't act on Climate Control, I will
Our men and women in the Military deserve...
Raise the Minimum wage
We Deserve a vote on Gun Control

Clap, clap, clap!

No need to waste all that time and money and fossil fuel hauling folks to DC to hear the same pap they've heard the last 5 years.

It'll be just as wonderful of a speech next year as it was last year and the year before that and the year before that and the years before that.

[AliceH]

I saw your 2:53, NK. It makes no sense. You say Akin was a terrible candidate, and then say it's the Tea Party, who had nothing to do with him, that needs to do better? Akin won more elections than all 6 ot 7 of his primary contenders combined, so he was self-evidently unelectable?

Pfui.

[NJJan]

From USA Today's SOTU word cloud from social media: SCREWED
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/02/13/social-media-response-to-sotu-screwed/

[AliceH]

And....I'm starting to see red again, so first I'll apologize to Janet (and others) for even rising to the #()#*)# bait when I should know better, and now - I'll just stop.

[Rob Crawford]

ace is losing confidence in the Tea Party. I didn't see that coming...

Has he said a conservative woman isn't suited for an office yet?

[narciso]

That's so 'unexpected', Captain,the smell of singed fur, came across. Rove has a similar instinct, despite his previous experience when
the 'Clean Toga' washed their hands of him,

[NK]

Daddy-- I think it's time that the Speaker --quietly-- advise the POTUS there will be no invite in 2014 for a SOTU at the House chamber. It's a mockery of a sham, and worse than useless. A speech is not in the constitution or any statute-- it's a custom. A custom that's now worse than useless. Just end it.

[centralcal]

This is CNN!

Bias, much?

[bgates]

Akin is an exemplar of a terrible candidate who forfeited a winnable election.

A better example: Martha Coakley.

So that's two reasons to not support the Tea Party.

[NK]

Coakley was indeed another exemplar. Different lesson for different group though.

[centralcal]

Another vaycay for Little Barry and Big Moo.

Ed Henry ‏@edhenryTV

White House says President Obama is headed to West Palm Beach for Presidents' Day weekend R&R

[AliceH]

Wow, CC.

If I did photoshops, I'd be going to town right now. Starting with substituting Obama and the fly... Obama and the umbrella...

[centralcal]

LOL, Alice! You would almost have too much material to choose from.

[Dave (in MA)]

And Obama wants to blackmail the industry by trading a Carbon Trading Plan for approval of Keystone XL.

These jerks have done their best to ensure that energy costs have doubled in the past 4 years and that they will do their best to keep it that way. It's right out of the Green playbook.

And the LIV imbeciles in this country stuck him back in the White House.

[daddy]

The sign of the End of the World
Is not just an Asteroid hurled,
Nor a Pope bailing early
or pets not acting surly,
It's JiB posting Hillary unfurled.

Yikes! The end is nigh.

[narciso]

'ratings much' except for doctors offices, government buildings and airport terminals

[Janet]

Ya know what would be really embarrassing? To have a candidate that advocates sticking scissors in baby's heads. Can you imagine?...oh yeah, that's what President Obama supports. And we're suppose to be shamed by Akin?...what a joke.

[Beasts of England]

Holy lexicon, Igman - One of the wire services reporting on Dorner said he was holed up in a cabin and '...a fire later ensued.'

[daddy]

Re: Narciso's 03:23 link about the 63 year Dem Congressman who is tweeting ILU to the 24 College Coed and then removing his tweets as he finds out they went public.

Here she is:

According to the link, she enjoys “floating the river at Dons, pool parties, beer-ritas at Chimy’s, and going out on the Square with my friends.”

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

I think Ron Paul is getting old - and sort of senile. Once again, he should be ignored.

Lots of people (not just ACe) are dumping on the tea party these days. Most of them have never understood what it stands for.

[NK]

The 24yo Coed-- OK Rep Cohen is an old creep-- but he has good taste. Wow.

[daddy]

Enuff about Akin.

Let's talk about former South Carolina Republican Mark Sanford, married father of 4, and unable to figure out the difference between hiking the Appalachian's and hiking up his girlfriends skirt in Argentina.

Apparently he's running for office again.

So who should back him?

The Repub Establishment (which may or may not exist?)
The Tea Party?

Or how about nobody.

It seems to me that him running again will only be of benefit to himself and the Democrats.

[Rob Crawford]

Most of them have never understood what it stands for.

Lord knows "Taxed Enough Already" is a complicated message completely untethered from our history or any current affairs.

(Though I suspect some of the "I don't get it" crowd doesn't get it because they're looking for "deeper meaning". Something involving "class", "race", or degrees attained.)

[Rob Crawford]

Or how about nobody.

Sounds good to me.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

Rob,

How often do you her someone critical of the tea party mention taxes. I never do.

[Rick Ballard]

Jane,

The Fnorks wouldn't be going preemptive in Iowa if the Tea Party was fading away. The interesting primary battles will be South Carolina, Iowa, Georgia, Arkansas, Montana, North Carolina, Louisiana, West Virginia and South Dakota.

I'd like to see Jindal knock out Landrieu in Louisiana and just about anybody send Graham home to South Carolina.

[narciso]

Ironically, in light of the Akin dustup, the local Duke and Duke franchise, is touting a PPP poll, saying Latham is the only candidate that can take on Culver,

[daddy]

Jane,

Out in public life, I have never heard criticism of The Tea Party beyond negative cliched stereotypes, of the sort of variety like "Sara Palin said she could see Russia from her back porch."

I cannot recall having heard a substantive criticism of the folks I meet. It is simply Alinsky style mocking, which is unfortunately tremendously effective.

BTW,

Rush's point today, during the segment that I heard, was that Obama has no intention of ever taking responsibility for anything these next 2 years, and that his aim is to continually remain in the campaign mode, working solely to blame the Repubs, so that he can win back the House in 2014 and from then on institute whatever the hell they want. I certainly wouldn't put it past him. Shirking responsibility and damning his opponents is what he's best at.

[narciso]

I guess SDK Knickerbocker is too obvious, so they need a false flag;

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/02/13/Wash-Post-Hires-Democrat-Activist-Lobbyist-for-Editorial-Pages

[narciso]

Actually we might have been a bit too hasty;

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/13/Sen-Susan-Collins-Changes-Vote-To-No-On-Hagel

[centralcal]

I'm confused Narciso.

Collins will not filibuster and will vote for cloture (cloture needs 60 votes) - which moves forward more quickly the vote on Hagel, when Collins will vote NO (and a simple majority is all that is needed to confirm Hagel).

Isn't she sort of having her cake and eating it too?

[daddy]

Just saw an interesting video segment on FOX of I think Sen. Johnny Isakson of Ga, asking Lew today if he was in a Benghazi briefing with the President.

Lew says yes, and then Isakson asks if he briefed the President on Benghazi. Lew Says "No." Then Isakson runs down a list of 7 or 8 individuals who were at that meeting yet each of them has said "They Did Not Brief The President." Isakson tries like hell to get info from Lew on did anyone brief the President on Benghazi, as you all sat in the room discussing Benghazi? Who did the briefing?

Lew says they were all just chatting and he can't say exactly who was briefing or if anyone was briefing. It was the opening of Bret Baire's Show and worth watching, just to see how unhelpful and unresponsive these guys are are to straightforward questions.

If I was King for a day I would waterboard every one of them until I got some answers.

KayyyyRoooooo.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

I have never heard criticism of The Tea Party beyond negative cliched stereotypes

I have, and many times by people who have no idea that I'm a tea partier. To a person the criticism has absolutely nothing to do with what the tea party is about, which constantly flabbergasts me because the people saying it, truly believe it.

About 2 years ago, a fellow Rotarian who knew I was in the tea party told me he believes the tea party is racist. I was appalled beyond belief. It pretty much ruined my close friendship with his wife, and totally wiped out my friendship with him. About 8 months later he apologized - and frankly I had a very hard time accepting his apology. To my shame it took me a long time and it is ony recently that our friendship has been pretty much repaired. I think I was as surprised by my reaction as I was by his comment.

It's another example of the left's ability to demonize.

[marlene]

ccal@6:16---yes.

[centralcal]

That is exactly how I see it, too, Marlene.

Collins has had a history of pulling stunts like this. Not standing up when it would count to slow something down (actually helping push it along) and then voting against whatever it is for show.

[narciso]

The whole Poland Spring episode, does remind of that matter with Sarah's 'bendy straws' that she insisted on all her speeches,

[marlene]

The Bangor Daily is reporting that her statement says although she opposes Hagel,she won't block each senator's right to vote for or against him. Our new "independent" Senator King voted Hagel out of the Armed Services committee.

[narciso]

Yes, she's perfectly 'splunge' or something, and the Post reveals it's slightly more hacktastic, then it was yesterday.

[Mad Jack]

Someone should mention to Susan that the "sainted" Maine Senator George Mitchell had no problem using every Senate rule imaginable to frustrate the Republican majority and Pres Reagan's efforts when he was the minority leader. Dems have no problem bringing a gun to a knife fight and RINO's like Collins don't even act like it's a knife fight.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--So if --IF-- the TP generally fields ideological candidates who are unelectable--

Your prime example was not a member of the Tea Party and you have advanced perhaps two others. Two possibly preventable losses is "generally?"
How many hundreds of winnable races have "professional" Reps lost for the Senate and House in the last couple of decades or simply in 2012?

How would one describe mushes for president who are batting 1 for 6 since Ford and the only win was riding Reagan's coattails? That seems pretty generally unelectable; considerably more so than Tea Partiers in state races.

[narciso]

They bring the fake gun made out of soap, right out of 'Take the Money and run'

[Porchlight]

Isn't she sort of having her cake and eating it too?

RINOs do this all the time. They technically vote no at the end when it's meaningless but vote yes on cloture and refuse to filibuster which is what really counts. She's doing precisely what Dems want.

If Rubio ends up voting no on immigration because of something like not enough border security, it'll be similar - because he very publicly supported it when it needed his support, even if he voted no in the end when it was too late.

[Porchlight]

How many hundreds of winnable races have "professional" Reps lost for the Senate and House in the last couple of decades or simply in 2012?

And how many less than stellar establishment Reps have been dragged over the finish line by Tea Party enthusiasm and GOTV?

[Porchlight]

To my shame it took me a long time and it is ony recently that our friendship has been pretty much repaired. I think I was as surprised by my reaction as I was by his comment.

Jane, I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. He basically called you a racist, didn't he? No one should do that lightly and it's entirely understandable if it takes someone awhile to accept the apology when it comes.

I was surprised at how angry I was with my best friend after a series of anti-Palin remarks she made in 2008. Don't they realize we dislike their candidates as much as they despise ours and yet we keep our mouths shut for the sake of the friendship? But no, she just couldn't hold back. Total ignorance combined with total rudeness. Took a couple of years before I was really over it and even then there is probably some permanent damage.