Today the NY Times Business Section delivers a twofer on politicized academic efforts. First, The Evil One Percenters Are Back!
Incomes Flat in Recovery, but Not for the 1%
By ANNIE LOWREY
WASHINGTON — Incomes rose more than 11 percent for the top 1 percent of earners during the economic recovery, but not at all for everybody else, according to new data.
The numbers, produced by Emmanuel Saez, an economist at the University of California, Berkeley, show overall income growing by just 1.7 percent over the period. But there was a wide gap between the top 1 percent, whose earnings rose by 11.2 percent, and the other 99 percent, whose earnings declined by 0.4 percent.
As a great thinker with a grasp of statistics nearly said, the one percent will always be with us. But is it really the same group taking more money year after year, or are new faces arriving to exploit the rest of us? Ms. Lowrey and her editors maintain the pretense that the same evil-doers are continually oppressing the rest of us, for example here:
The data analyzed by Mr. Piketty and Mr. Saez shows that income inequality — as measured by the proportion of income taken by the top 1 percent of earners — reached a modern high just before the recession hit in 2009. The financial crisis and its aftermath hit wealthy families hard. But since then, their earnings have snapped back, if not to their 2007 peak.
A retiring CEO who made it into the one-percent in 2007 by cashing in his stock options, or a homeowner who made it into the one-percent in 2007 by selling her home, have not seen their earnings snap back. This transience of onepercenterdom has been documented, but not in the Times.
And a harsher reality - the Pikkety-Saez numbers overlook important pieces of the compensation puzzle - is introduced only very late, and with a carefully palmed card:
Measures of inequality differ depending on whether they are measured after or before taxes, and whether or not they include government transfers like Social Security payments, food stamps and other credits.
Research led by the Cornell economist Richard V. Burkhauser, for instance, sought to measure the economic health of middle-class households including income, taxes, transfer programs and benefits like health insurance. It found that from 1979 to 2007, median income grew by about 18.2 percent over all rather than by 3.2 percent counting income alone.
Wait - do they mean that when looking at an employee's compensation we should consider the value of the employer-sponsored health insurance? Why yes they do and yes we should, but Ms. Lowrey promptly buries that:
In an interview, Mr. Burkhauser said his numbers measured “how are the resources that person has to live on changing over time,” whereas Mr. Piketty and Mr. Saez’s numbers measure “how are different people being rewarded in the marketplace.”
Well, no, not since employer-sponsored health plans are an important part of most people's compensation.
The promotion of politicized 'science' continued with this laugher:
The Myth of the Rich Who Flee From Taxes
We learn that it is a myth because many, many non-rich move for entirely different reasons, such as better real estate values or nicer weather. Gee, later I expect to see a report debunking the 'myth' that eagles are threatened by wind towers with the explanation that most of the dead birds piled up under the turbines are ducks.
We also learn that it is tough for high-earning Silcon Valley hotshots or Wall Street arbs to maintain their income stream elsewhere. Breakthrough stuff. Does the researcher actually have anything to say about the behavior of "the rich" who are not tied by geography to their jobs and might be free to relocate? Yes he does!
Of course, some people do move for tax reasons, especially wealthy retirees, athletes and other celebrities without strong ties to high-tax locations, like jobs and families.
...
A star like Mr. Depardieu “can go to Paris whenever he wants,” Mr. Shure noted. Professor Tannenwald agreed. “People who are very rich, who are retired or who aren’t tied to a particular location, do change their residency at a high rate based on tax differentials.”
Boy, that shoots down that myth, doesn't it? The Times can be a great resource but Google is even more valuable.
And watch that church lose its tax exemption for involving itself in politics.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | February 16, 2013 at 07:15 PM
Hasn't there been a good deal of speculation over the years that Mark Twain ghosted Grant's memoirs?
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | February 16, 2013 at 07:23 PM
And maybe Cleveland's gotten rain instead of snow.
We had a very rainy fall (including the hurricane) but it hasn't rained much after that.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 16, 2013 at 07:53 PM
Can the Terps hold on? Duke is mediocre without Kelly.
Posted by: MarkO | February 16, 2013 at 07:56 PM
Nonetheless, jimmy Erie's average annual snowfall has continued at about 100 inches for as long as I can remember. It seldom falls below the top ten cities of 100k or more in annual snowfall. Interestingly, the official snowfall measurements are taken at Erie Airport which is about a mile from the lake. Another mile or two south, where my brother used to live, the elevation rises about 3-400 feet, and the average annual snowfall increases about 2 feet.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | February 16, 2013 at 07:59 PM
I did a quick look at Twain's autobiography, and there is virtually nothing on Henry Adams, who I really came to know as a character in Eric Zencey's Panama, which is set in fin de siecle France, in the aftermath of the Canal scandal, which brought the Boulangists and the Anarches,
(if OWS was serious) 'Secret History' tackles this same material, in part, but with a lighter touch.
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 08:13 PM
--We had a very rainy fall (including the hurricane) but it hasn't rained much after that.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 16, 2013 at 07:53 PM--
Same here Captain.
I've noticed when we get one of those Pineapple Express rain events it's usually pretty dry afterward.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | February 16, 2013 at 08:18 PM
CH, your boys are getting jobbed by the proDukie refs. They must all be named Vitale.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | February 16, 2013 at 08:24 PM
Those Vitale's couldn't get it done, CH. Congrats, Terps.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | February 16, 2013 at 08:30 PM
Yet the Terps squeezed one out though, 83/81, you were just tempting fate with that Google Search, MarkO
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 08:31 PM
It took a phantom foul, but the Terps clung to their bitter religion.
Posted by: MarkO | February 16, 2013 at 08:32 PM
It seems to me that, considering how poorly he played, it was ungrateful for the Terp masses to chant, "F*** you Plumlee." Have they forgotten JJ's sister?
Posted by: MarkO | February 16, 2013 at 08:35 PM
Terps prevail just like Lefty. drew it up!
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 16, 2013 at 08:37 PM
Pinette has a bizarre analogy, I think related to Hamas, but since he has lost much cerebral function, it's not clear;
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/02/16/canadas-government-must-reach-out-to-the-undead/
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 08:46 PM
The interesting thing about Cruz, is he is hard to demonize because he doesn't pound on the table, he does demand facts though, which I suppose is tantamount to 'talking about fight club' in some circles.
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 08:51 PM
So, the Politico is trying to spin Richard Clarke as the cause of the Mahabeth leak, instead of the person who leaked it, Brennan,
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 09:06 PM
I'm heartened so many of my fellow JOMers are enjoying a Terp win. I think once Turge gets a real point guard to run the show we might be ready to do some serious damage. Yes, Mark, beating Los Diablos Azure sans Kelly is less than completely fulfilling. But our "proud to be a thug" fans never let me down.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 16, 2013 at 09:14 PM
Well I was tweaking MarkO, for that Clockwork Orange image earlier,
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 09:20 PM
The NYTimes makes a great case of just how others often have to fill the breech when the Times takes a holiday. LUN
Posted by: Neo | February 16, 2013 at 09:25 PM
Trying to paint Cruz as McCarthy is a fool's errand. He merely asks probing questions and makes no outlandish accusations. He has no Robert Kennedy or Roy Cohn on staff, nor does he need them to be an effective questioner. He has a remarkably restrained demeanor even when asking exacting and probing questions. He is brilliant, "credentialed" and far more appealing than the notably disheveled McCarthy.
Compare and contrast Cruz with the newbie Cherokee Professor/Senator the MSM is anointing as a brilliant and probing questioner of her own party's appointees.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | February 16, 2013 at 09:35 PM
Well that's why I put up the Althouse link, JimRh, now one question that I didn't hear the Red Queen ask, is what kind of flexibility has Dodd/Frank given your department, of course she wouldn't ask that question, because it would give the game away.
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 09:43 PM
That link did it for me, narc. Thanks.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | February 16, 2013 at 09:50 PM
You know, we all know how utterly corrupt the media is. Why can't we figure out something to do about it?
Posted by: Jane - The media sucks | February 16, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Get out of your comfort zone. This doesn't mean my head up your ass.
Posted by: Heaven is a better place | February 16, 2013 at 10:23 PM
So, Jane, what have you thought of the Americans,
for what you've seen of it.
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 10:49 PM
I take it back. It is the end of the world.
Woman marries her twin sister's convicted killer
An Argentine woman was confronted by an angry crowd when she married her twin sister's killer on Valentine's Day.
Edith Casas, 22, wed Victor Cingolani yesterday in a ceremony taking place less than a year into the groom's 13-year sentence for the murder of model Johana Casas.
The bride was pelted with stones and eggs as she emerged from the register office, while her husband, disguised in sunglasses and a beret, was rushed out of the back door to his cell.
Posted by: daddy | February 16, 2013 at 11:03 PM
I hear ya, Jane. I wrote a rant on FB about the old story of Sandy Berger stealing National Security documents & it not being reported for 9 stinkin' months. The WaPo just now reporting about Menendez (mostly covering for him)...but also Fast & Furious, Benghazi,....
We need a loud screaming new media to cover the old media. A TMZ for the media. Whose married to who, media credentials, where their family members work, the stories ignored, the stories played up, comparisons of similar stories during a Republican administration vs. a Dem. administration.
There was a great video online showing news clips of high gas price reporting during the Bush administration vs. the Obama administration. It was something. Here's one.
Posted by: Janet | February 16, 2013 at 11:06 PM
The problem with rationally taking apart the "1%" hooey is that such deconstructions do not get through to those voters who are hoodwinked by the lie in the first place.
Can't argue with that. The media are the chief problem.
Posted by: Porchlight | February 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM
No, daddy, the end of the world would be if the bride was greeted with applause instead of being pelted with stones and eggs.
At least someone somewhere has the right ideas.
Posted by: Porchlight | February 16, 2013 at 11:09 PM
I'm not getting how they calculate the blast was 30 times that of Hiroshima, and only have a shockwave, no scorchmarks,
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 11:25 PM
We need a loud screaming new media to cover the old media.
No; what we need is for Repubs like McRINO to stop stabbing conservatives in the back. There's a nice interview in the WSJ today (I read it a little while ago on the dead tree and don't know if it's behind the firewall) with the producer of "Zero Dark Thirty" of how the Maverick has joined "Chimney Sweep" Feinstein and Carl "Does this combover and glasses perched at the end of my nose make me look like a dipshit" Levin to try and censor a movie because "my friends" figures this will get him back in really really good terms with the MFM.
Until we remove this blemish from the body politic (and Palin screwed up badly by supporting that egomaniacal quisling's re-election) the MFM can claim to be all bi-partisany by having him carry their water. McCain is one of the worst things ever to happen to the Republican party. I'm almost embarrassed for having voted for him. He'd have made a terrible President.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 16, 2013 at 11:27 PM
It's outrageous that Feinstein, Levin and McCain,would act as zampolit;
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324162304578306292338216514.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
That said, this compositing idiocy, that Boal engaged in, mizing Mayer's (and by proxy Soufan's) fantasies, with the actual accounts of interrogators, related by Thiessen, did the story no favors
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 11:39 PM
Speaking of torture, the beatings have continued, although morale will not improve as long as Rick Sanchez is back at my Clear Channel station,
Posted by: narciso | February 16, 2013 at 11:45 PM
narc, I was sure, from what DoT's contacts said, that Boal got some things very wrong. That still doesn't have anything to do with what McStain and the other two stooges are trying to do. Also, hasn't the JEF made composites acceptable?
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 16, 2013 at 11:55 PM
I made that point earlier, his inverted learning curve, by that I mean 'Mavericks' suggests that he's rehired that weasel Salter, who did a 'bush
league' version of Joe Klein, last year.
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 12:00 AM
The WSJ also had a good article by the guy from FIRE on a kollidge president running roughshod over First amendment rights and Mort Zuckerman's noticing of the complete lack of jobs as he still tepidly tries to give the JEF a bit more rope on the economy. What's the matter, Mort; still trying to justify your 2008 vote? Just say you voted against McRINO.
Anything to keep me away from Nooner's inebriated ruminations on the Catholic church which makes me think she split a bottle of communion wine with Meeka.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 12:14 AM
JimmyK, Iggy and narciso,
Thanks for the Henry Adams/Twain comments.
Excellent link Janet at 11:06, but I am with you---we need a hard hitting, in your face media that can pound stuff like that price of gas thing over and over again into the LIV's, like CNN and MSNBC and Hollywood does day after day after day.
Posted by: daddy | February 17, 2013 at 12:16 AM
There's been speculation, but I've yet to see the evidence. Aaron Lisec, one of the editors of Grant's papers, calls the claim "completely baseless," and points out that much of the manuscript of the memoirs is in Grant's own hand.
Posted by: MJW | February 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM
Adams was so reactionary as to be nihilist, from an American Experience clip;
Adams believed Grant lacked the sophistication needed to be president. Grant, Adams later wrote, was "pre-intellectual, archaic, and would have seemed so even to the cave-dwellers." Adams also believed that Grant encouraged and even participated in corrupt politics. Reform was necessary, Adams wrote, to take power away from the crooked politicians and financial swindlers who held it.
No surprising that Garry Wills was trying to rehabilitate his reputation, his Venice book is overall an exception, to the rule,
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 12:42 AM
Hasn't there been a good deal of speculation over the years that Mark Twain ghosted Grant's memoirs?
I am very familiar with Twain, and having just read Grant's Memoirs I see no similarity in style whatever between the 2. Grants Memoirs reads like his written orders, all done years before he ever met Twain, and as I understand it the great majority of the manuscript is written in Grant's handwriting and still exists.
Posted by: daddy | February 17, 2013 at 01:13 AM
What we were concerned about four years and some, has come to pass, they have marginalized or coopted most of the military leadership, they have waged the 'overseas contingency operations'
in a particularly hamhanded and myopic manner,
alienating allies, making our foes chortle, such as in the LUN
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 02:05 AM
Captain,
I didn't know that at least one of the Powerline guys was a Terp. Here's an interesting post they have up today following todays Duke/Maryland contest, and it sounds to me like they're cribbing from your comments.
COLLEGE PARK BIDS DUKE ADIEU
Posted by: daddy | February 17, 2013 at 02:18 AM
Apropos of your last link, narc, the thing is that they really do not care. It is all a joke to them: posturing and their internal psychodramas and fantasies are all that matter. If it harms the USA, well so much the better, and, of course, they will be egged on by their co-coreligionists in foreign elites
It is hard to grasp that they are really that shallow and immature, and have such contempt for the nation and its citizens, but they really are that contemptible.
It is only in the pursuit of political power that they demonstrate any "competency" at all, but even here this competency is based on all manner of immorality, indecency and even criminality.
Moreover, even if they could be magically removed from power today and their works reversed, the damage they have done, overseas and elsewhere, would take a generation to repair. In the election and re-election of Obama and the glorification of Hillary, Americas reputation has been irrevocably damaged. It turns out that the wisdom and judgement of the USA, and with it its ability to act resolutely and correctly, was a passing thing. No longer will the world turn to us for leadership. Kerry will only compound this; President Hillary wil be the last straw.
Note that not only do the American people seem to care about any of this but that it does not even seem to occur to a sizable amount of them. From a certain perspective, Americans deserve these vicious, self-serving clowns. I cannot remember any time in my adult life where all this nonsense would not cause great public outrage, but then there was once a time where the lack of a manned space program would be unthinkable. American go a long like sheep in this destruction of America--a good plurality actually cheer it on and think it "progress".
If America had been conquered and occupied by the Soviets, and had set up local Quislings to rule us and dismantlement and a ruin us, how would it be any different than what is going on today?
Posted by: squaredance | February 17, 2013 at 03:56 AM
Note that not only do the American people seem to NOT care,,,
Posted by: squaredance | February 17, 2013 at 03:58 AM
John Norwich has a much better grip on the history of Venice. Here is a wonderful one volume work: http://www.amazon.com/History-Venice-John-Julius-Norwich/dp/0679721975 . He has several volumes about Venice, some quite specialized (http://www.amazon.com/Centuries-Music-Venice-Robbins-Landon/dp/0028645243/ref=la_B000AQ520W_1_29?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1361093023&sr=1-29 )
In general, he has extraordinary knowledge and insight into the history of the Mediterranean in Late Antiquity and the Medieval Period. He authored an absolutely essential series of books on the Byzantium Empire. For English readers, it is difficult to understand the History of that sea without Norwich.
He far surpasses Wills.
Posted by: squaredance | February 17, 2013 at 04:31 AM
Is Appalled or other benefits experts around? If so, do you have any comments on Colleen Medill's opinion that ObamaCare is going to cause large and small employers alike to drop group health plans?
Posted by: Thomas Collins | February 17, 2013 at 07:38 AM
Whoops! Should have referenced LUN in my prior post.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | February 17, 2013 at 07:46 AM
TC, I'm not an ERISA expert but I do wonder if it will be financially possible (let alone fiscally prudent) to continue offering health care to my employees. We do the self insurance thing and have a "grandfathered" plan, but the ACA regulations still creep in at the edges and the cost of the plan is rocketing up. I may have to choose between insurance for my employees and continuing to have employees at all. The big fear I have is that dropping health insurance and paying the "tax" ($2000 per employee) is cheap now, but does an unnoticed part of ACA say the "Secretary shall adjust this tax rate" to some more punitive number, say $20,000 per employee?
Posted by: henry | February 17, 2013 at 08:15 AM
There is an inflation adjuster, henry. See LUN. I don't know whether there is authority in addition to the inflation adjuster to increase the employer's shared responsibility payment (now there's an Orwellian term if there ever was one).
Posted by: Thomas Collins | February 17, 2013 at 08:56 AM
"If America had been conquered and occupied by the Soviets, and had set up local Quislings to rule us and dismantlement and a ruin us, how would it be any different than what is going on today?"
http://www.trevorloudon.com/2013/02/adm-james-lyons-ret-on-growing-benghazi-scandal/
http://www.therightscoop.com/ambassador-chris-stevens-didnt-have-to-die-in-benghazi-the-real-story-of-what-led-to-his-death/
"In short there were two operations going on in Benghazi, neither of which Stevens nor the CIA [Petraeus] were made aware, that made the situation on the ground in Benghazi far more dangerous than they even knew."
"One of the operations was direct raids against Al-Qaeda conducted by John Brennan, Deputy National Security Advisor, that instigated blowback in the form of the attack on our ‘consulate’ in Benghazi where Stevens visited that night. "
What would the Soviets do different?
Posted by: pagar | February 17, 2013 at 09:10 AM
I have to say, as bad as the ACA is in every other way, the separation of health insurance from employee benefits is actually a good thing. Among the many many things that obscure the cost of health care from customers of health care is that insurance premiums are not only "subsidized" as employment benefits, but paid via payroll.
If you have to write a check every month, you're much more informed and aware of what you are buying - and what you need.
Posted by: AliceH | February 17, 2013 at 09:15 AM
Henry,
Can you adjust the employee contribution? I think Obama voters in particular should feel the pain of Obamacare. Making employees pay more may be unpalatable, but it could keep you in business and them in jobs. Oh and I'd fully explain it too.
Posted by: Jane - The media sucks | February 17, 2013 at 09:15 AM
((how would it be any different than what is going on today?"))
as one example, all JOM posters would now be residing in Siberia.
Posted by: Chubby | February 17, 2013 at 09:24 AM
Jane, yes and no. There are very few degrees of freedom within a "grandfathered" plan and strict limits on how much the employee contribution can be raised in any given year. Further we cannot change the employee co-pays, except for things where ACA forces us to offer first dollar coverage (contraception kicks in for 2014, this carp is what is driving our costs up so fast). Beyond that we lose "grandfathered" status and can no longer do self-insurance -- doubling our costs immediately.
Alice, separating health care from the employer may be the only viable option -- it would save money to increase salaries and drop insurance. As a bonus I wouldn't have to put up with all the complaints about what the plan does and does not cover. Employees would lose big on such a move, so the point in TC's link that nobody wants to go first does apply.
Posted by: henry | February 17, 2013 at 09:34 AM
OT ad for an event at my church -
"Plan to attend the 13th annual Accessibility Summit on April 19-20, 2013. The conference is for families and caregivers, faith-based organizations, service providers, teachers, and other professionals connected to the special needs community."
The featured speaker in 2010 was Dr. Ben Carson! The featured speaker this year will be Emily Colson, Chuck Colson's daughter that has an autistic son.
Posted by: Janet | February 17, 2013 at 09:38 AM
Al right, for the IT, the other laptop fell, and there is a failure to start, the screen looks cracked, but it didn't fall forward, any tips.
Yes I know of Norwich, squaredance, I was just pointing that Wills isn't totally useless.
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 09:47 AM
Henry,
I have no idea how many employees you have but if the average age is around 40 they can find a plan which costs around $500 per month in Wisconsin (family of four). Given the state of the labor market, this may well be a window of opportunity worthy of serious investigation.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 17, 2013 at 10:07 AM
"Liberals, the mainstream media, and establishment Republicans often reveal which conservatives they fear by their level of disdain and vitriol.
This week, they put their crosshairs on freshman Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), a Tea Party conservative of Hispanic descent who undermines the mainstream media's ability to advance their false notion that being a minority and Tea Partier are mutually exclusive. He is a conservative who showed no desire to defer to the Senate's "courtly" ways, the preferences of the institution's old bulls.
The sinking ship that is the New York Times, the so-called paper of record, provided evidence of what it fears most in its Saturday edition: strong, distinct full-throated conservative voices from folks who ain't "country club," geriatric, and white.
The Washington Post and Politico joined the times in assailing Cruz this week for similar reasons.
The Times did a thorough review of the freshman senator's stunning seven-week run: [...]
In what is known as a "tell" in the media parlor game, Weissman and the Times commit an unforgivable error by referring to Cruz as "Canadian-born" without mentioning he was born to a mother who was a U.S. citizen, which most likely makes Cruz "natural born" and eligible to run for the nation's highest office. Yes, just when the Texan shows some "muzzle velocity" toward 2016, the Times goes birther. [...]"
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/02/16/NYT-Goes-Birther-Attacks-Canadian-Born-Cruz-Calls-Him-McCarthyite
H/T ORYR
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 17, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Obama/s new chief of staff is an idiot.
Posted by: Jane - The media sucks | February 17, 2013 at 10:08 AM
He wrote the Cairo speech, enuf said.
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 10:10 AM
Rush Limbaugh: Obama's Birther State Of The Union Address 2013
http://youtu.be/z_PGd64HksE
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 17, 2013 at 10:10 AM
And before he was one of General Jones's minders, he was a ThinkRegress contributor.
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 10:28 AM
narc, I'm nearly through the third season of Burn Notice and am enjoying it a great deal. Does the quality level stay high in subsequent seasons?
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Rove is on FNS backtracking furiously on slamming the Tea Party; he even slammed Lugar!
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Porch, if you're in touch with MayBee tell her to send the damn nude pics.
Posted by: Danube of Thought iPad | February 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Henry, I think Chief Justice Roberts’ decision to call that section of Obamacare a tax was a delayed fuse explosive to address the question you have raised.
If Roberts thought it unacceptable to declare Obamacare illegal, at least he could plant the seeds of its future destruction.
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On the other side of the coin, I wonder if anyone has examined whether a corporation can have no employees, hiring independent contractors instead, and what would be the defining considerations.
Posted by: sbwaters | February 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Rick, on the $500/mo plan it all depends on age & pre-existing conditions. The low teaser rates are for people who never use the healthcare system (me so far), the actual rate charged is based on medical history. Some will win, some will lose. Another distinction is the split between single / family broken out more in the fully insured market (single, emp plus spouse, and family). The net is the families will be hit hardest. I don't have to decide anything for a while, and the Obama economy is a bigger problem than the ACA right now.
Posted by: henry | February 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM
OVerall., the crazy MI-6 man, and other characters really do top themselves, it makes you wonder why would you stay in this type of business, Campbell and Anwar keep the show moving along.
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Rove realized now, he's blown the transaxle, I mean he rolled a snake eyes, last time, with 400 million (Dr. Evil pinky)
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
sbw, I don't know about your business. Mine is mostly recurring IP license revenue that doesn't even require contractors. Employees are helpful to the extent product investment attracts new licensees. ACA makes that investment costlier per unit of attractiveness, while the latest tax hikes on dividends and capital gains reduce returns. I believe what my employees are working on will payoff even under those conditions, but a bad economy may be strike three (or it could drive licensees to us rather than our competitors). I may finally get some grey hair this year.
Posted by: henry | February 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Speaking of the other weasel,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/02/15/obamas_syrian_policies_must_match_his_words.html
When the situation has become so dire, that the Al Nusra Front is the big winner, what does he think is going on,
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Hi everyone. Now I have synthesized and read and pulled together a longer post that should make the nefariousness of what is going on clearer. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/promoting-alternative-thinking-strategies-is-this-really-mental-health-first-aid/
I would say education but it's just the means of gaining the desired Consciousness that seeks radical political change. I think it all works.
Posted by: rse | February 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Burns/Duffy/Anson helped a lot in both series to keep the hate going. I was perplexed when he showed signs of skin grafts in one show, but not the other. Looked like pretty major work.
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | February 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Campbell and Anwar keep the show moving along.
I can't imagine the show without either of them, quirks and all.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM
CH, my choices are between watching FNS and watching the arc of my TIG welder.
Help me decide.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 17, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Hssh, MT, he's not there yet, there's still the return of Matheson/Otter/Larry to go,
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 11:02 AM
It depends on how important the welding is because they had Rand Paul on. Is it just me or does Bob Woodward's halting speaking cadence annoy anybody else?
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Posting that made me realize original post had said Detroit when I meant Cleveland so I just changed. I was thinking of a certain Clevelander who should find that interesting.
Mostly I think there is no question that all of this lines up as various excuses to get the Marxian theory of human devt as the classroom focus. Which since hardly anyone knows of the theory who is not on board with it was likely to work.
This was too long but I have so many new readers that I have to be systematic. But sbw and henry will appreciate that the 1976 book mentioned that this ed model is frustrating and leads to drug use and other poor behaviors as adults when world is not like classroom. So of course workplaces have to change to fit the products of education and their anti-hierarchical, we should all have input mindsets.
Posted by: rse | February 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM
That's why they had Woodward play him, made him look sharper then he really is, at least back the,
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM
--"Is it just me or does Bob Woodward's halting speaking cadence annoy anybody else?"--
If he were the person talking me thru landing an airplane after the pilot croaked, we would surely die.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Cap'n,
I thought Woodward was quite rude. Did I mis-hear?
Posted by: Jane - The media sucks | February 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM
I have always hated Woodward's speech. I think he believes it makes him seem erudite. I think it makes him come across as condescending whatever he is saying.
Posted by: rse | February 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
So Hagel, back in 2005, demanded the treatment of the Stache, he finds intolerable, now.
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Woodward, we now know, from Holland's evisceration, pioneered the type of template
creating, that is common place, His 'Deep Throat'
was not some sincere dissident, but a dissapointed apparatchik, the Machiavelli meme, seems appropriate. For his next act, the Brethren, he forced clerks to betray confidence,
Veil, has legendary credibility issues,
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Jane, I'm usually so annoyed by his way of saying what he does, for exactly the reasons rse points out, that I tune out his content. So you're probably right but I can't say...
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
I was thinking of a certain Clevelander who should find that interesting.
If by "interesting" you mean puts me in a white hot rage, mission accomplished.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 11:26 AM
This is what I was referring to;
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/02/17/Hagel-2005-OK-To-Hold-Up-Confirmation-If-Serious-Allegations-Not-Answered
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Over at WUWT they were talking about opossums and one of the commenters mentioned his home team:
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | February 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM
completely off the topic, I spent some time in the car yesterday listening to sports radio. I could not believe the fawning over Michael Jordan, who is celebrating his 50th. It was probably the most disgusting display of sycophancy I have ever heard.
Jordan, for the record, is an ass. I understand the nature of fame, but there are few redeeming qualities except his ability to play the game. He was one of the greatest, but there will be better one day. Records are always broken.
But to openly disrespect people like Magic and Bird and Erving and Russell and the old Celts was too much. These clowns have the memory capacity of hamsters.
The announcers were putting him on a pedestal far above any other player and comparing him to some of the greatest athletes of all time; Ali and Pele.
I guess they forgot about Joe Louis and Jim Thorpe Jackie Robinson and some of the people who really changed sports. The flattery and craven worship really drove home how low even sports broadcasting has become.
Posted by: matt | February 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Yes, that was stupid on Jordan's part, he comes off better then some of the other avatars.
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Jordan's acceptance speech into the basketball HOF was a study in resentment, petulance and classlessness. Everything he's done since stopping playing with the Bulls has been in the negative column. If he wants to come clean on something, maybe he should address why he had a hiatus from basketball in mid career and the murder of his father. The rumors that both of those were related to his gambling aren't going away until he comments on them.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM
Is there anyone so enamored of MJ that he still believes Jordan "retired" at the height of his powers to play AA baseball for a team owned by the same man who owned the team he just left?
Even at his retirement presser, Jordan mentioned that he might come back if Stern would let him back in the league. What?!?
Let's see. He was an inveterate gambler. He owed numerous gambling debts. His father was mysteriously killed. He was out 18 months and did not go back to the Bulls until--wait, wait--Spring Training for baseball.
He dismisses LBJ by mentioning that Kobe's 5 rings are more than LBJ's one. Well, MJ, Russell has 11.
Posted by: MarkO | February 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM
--If America had been conquered and occupied by the Soviets, and had set up local Quislings to rule us and dismantlement and a ruin us, how would it be any different than what is going on today?--
I see Chubby took a short swing at this but it deserves to be swatted out of the park.
There are many things wrong with the question but the most egregious one is the disrespect it demonstrates toward the scores of millions murdered and imprisoned by the Soviets.
The things squaredance (and me for that matter) casually write here and other places every day were capitol offenses in the USSR and required the requisite courage to publish while all we need is a grievance a keyboard and a cup of joe in our comfortable homes.
Until we are subject to the Gulag or death for disagreeing with the opposition it is the worst kind of hyperbole to compare the limp wristed schmucks in power to the animals who persecuted heroic figures like Shcharansky and Solzhenitsyn not to mention the scores of millions they murdered.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | February 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM
TK's 10:08 link makes it pretty clear Cruz is over the target and the target is indeed rich.
I find it both amusing and encouraging that Cruz is handling all the fuss with dignity and aplomb and without running to make peace with the MSM like "My Friends" and Miss Nancy Graham.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | February 17, 2013 at 01:09 PM
OT? - Sen. Sessions: "He (Jack Lew) gave the greatest false statement on finances ever.
A natural for Obama's administration.
Posted by: Frau Neinsagerin | February 17, 2013 at 01:18 PM
He's argued before the Supreme Court, this is child's play, with rather unruly children, by comparison,
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 01:19 PM
I will take a swing too as I did not see that paragraph Iggy just wrote a response to. There's a National Review post from 1968 where the dissident knows what he wants to say will result in prison and does it anyway for his 10 minutes of feeling free. It's clear if you read what I have been writing that much of our education "reforms" are grounded in Soviet psychology. There are a lot more connections but that is what book explains. I just know them which lets me respond in real time now to what is being sought every week.
When these methods were used on the Soviets they knew they were being played. We do not. As far as I know no one else recognized the significance of the word Growth in all these state and district implementation guides going forward. But Soviets and Poles and Czechs knew. It's why the posts on Marx tend to get translated into various Eastern Euro languages. They know I get it. I had 2 from Estonia Friday.
My point is we did not know how important consciousness was and is and what a big bullseye it has on it or we would not be running around asking repeatedly what is going on in our schools. UNESCO was created to launch a noetic revolution in the West knowing that would ultimately take us down and be close to invisible. Iggy is right. These schemers do hope to avoid widespread blood shed this time although they do expect some. That is clear in the 1972 UNESCO ed document on precisely what the Learning Society would mean.
So it is vastly different in methods but changing human nature somehow for purposes of economic and political power. Remains the goal. It's always the goal. Has been throughout history.
Posted by: rse | February 17, 2013 at 01:20 PM
Well they do see '1984' and 'Anthem' as goals, rather then cautionary warnings, they are going for this in a Fabian manner, but the water is starting to bubble in the pot, the treatment given Fox News, is not unlike 'the little tail'
that the Castro regime treated El Diario de La Marina, but we're not in the Capitol yet,
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 01:25 PM
Dr. Carson, similarly has a calm mien, just as like when he delivers his diagnosis;
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/340880/dr-ben-carson-ithis-weeki-obamas-policies-dont-lead-growth-our-nation-andrew-johnson
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 01:30 PM
Well, it is the anniversary of the umbrella group;
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/17/us-libya-militia-idUSBRE91G07M20130217
Posted by: narciso | February 17, 2013 at 01:33 PM