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March 26, 2013

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lyle

For my sins of occasionly delurking, I herewith denounce myself against any possible slurs against "resident lesbians" not belonging on the SC, intentional or otherwise. Back to lurking.

centralcal

Gosh, Captain, for one small paragraph it sure had a few twists and turns. lol

Captain Hate

cc, I was taught in high school to write concisely. I hope nothing was confusing other than a befuddlement of "how could this happen".

narciso

To somewhat make up for Zaphod's Passover statement, in the LUN

centralcal

Then, Captain, I would say you earn an A+ - it was concise and not the least confusing.

Well, HER situation sounds like she is a little confused - but not your telling of the tale.

Threadkiller

Neat stuff on "armies".

Doesn't seem to answer my narrow question though.

Extraneus

I understand that school has backed off from punishing the student.

That was the story yesterday or this morning, but I posted a link from Drudge which is still on his site - from the same source that said the university had issued an apology - that indicated they'd gone with multiple charges after all. The story at that link didn't indicate the time and day it was posted.

Anyone know what's the latest on this?

Captain Hate

Geez narc, only one reference to herself and that was as the person sending out the greetings. They told me if I voted for her we'd end up with a self centered egomaniac in a high position of power.

MarkO

Well, the kid's apparently a Mormon, so he has no civil rights anyway. Well, at least to marry the women he loves.

Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet

I believe the story I linked above is the latest.

Captain Hate

Well, HER situation sounds like she is a little confused

She's unflinchingly honest about what a mess she got herself into so she passes one of my tests of the worth of a person with flying colors. Plus she's great to work with.

Janet

Anyone know what's the latest on this?

This was a post at TownHall from today. I got it from Sara on FB.

This picture was with the post -

Extraneus

Thanks, Jim. That makes more sense than issuing an apology before charging him.

Rick Ballard

Don't worry, MarkO. If Olsen's theory of evolution is upheld you'll be able to look him and his harem in the eyes very shortly.

Chubby

Jim, thanks for the link, that was a vile episode, and thank God that right prevailed, and that it was so quickly resolved. Do you have any ideas on why they changed their minds so rapidly? they almost seem to be groveling in contrast to their hard accusations of the day before.

narciso

Recall who gave the assignment, his other job is Vice Chair of the Palm Beach Democratic Party.

Captain Hate

Sounds like the Liberty Institute set things straight; glad to see that some organization other than F.I.R.E. is looking out for the rights of students that kollidges trample on in a manner that would make Stalin proud.

centralcal

Chubby, I think the following might have caused them to apologize:

Sasser said Rotela’s case has generated national outrage and a number of high-profile attorneys have offered to volunteer their services.

MarkO

Rick, that slope has been treated with WD 40.

boatbuilder

Never mind the bigotry and the double standard; the kid and all his classmates should sue for fraud. This is a university-level course which attempts to teach somthing by forcing students to stomp on pieces of paper. Sheesh.

anonamom

Lyle, I hadn't a clue as to who the resident lesbian was after eight months here. I knew her name, think she has at least one child, but couldn't find out why she lived with Jane--the resident part.

Thanks for bringing about the clarification

Captain Hate

Has Ted Olson always looked weird in public? I've only seen him on chat shows since 9/11 when he wife was tragically killed but his demeanor makes him look like he's not all there; about which I could be totally off base.

Jane - Mock the Media!

Don't do that lyle - unless you want me to feel bad - which I will. We worked it out. You misread and I misinterpreted. Case closed.

Captain Hate

Yeah stick around lyle; your comments are always welcome.

Chubby

thanks a bunch, cc, that explains it

Extraneus
Paul Kengor, the executive director of the Center for Vision and Values at Grove City College, told Fox News he’s not surprised by the classroom lesson.

“These are the new secular disciples of ‘diversity’ and ‘tolerance’ – empty buzzwords that make liberals and progressives feel good while they often refuse to tolerate and sometimes even assault traditional Christian and conservative beliefs,” Kengor said.

Kengor said classes like the one at Florida Atlantic University demonstrate the contempt many public institutions hold for people of faith.

“It also reflects the rising confidence and aggression of the new secularists and atheists, especially at our sick and surreal modern universities,” he said.

The university did not explain why students were only instructed to write the name of Jesus – and not the name of Mohammed or another religious figure.

“Gee, I wonder if the instructor would dare do this with the name of Mohammed,” Kengor wondered.

A perfectly fair question, which we all know the answer to.

narciso

It's the same reason, they don't make a fuss when droids lose;

centralcal

anonamom: Jane's business partner (the resident lesbian) is named Amy. Amy is married and has two children. She and Jane work together - they do not live together.

Does that clear things up? :)

centralcal

Agree with others, lyle - keep on commenting.

Danube of Thought on iPad

I've answered TK's "narrow" question: in both instances, the language is indeed unequivocal. What he does not grasp is the scope with which the Congress and the courts have interpreted and applied those various unequivocal powers. If he does not approve of that scope, he should endeavor to change the law. Those who have attempted to do so on the question of presidential eligibility continue to bat .000 after scores of trips to the plate.

And so they now claim that an image of a birth certificate (not the certificate itself) is "forged."

Rick Ballard

Please stick around, Lyle. The "resident lesbian" issue conjured up an amusing concatenation in my mind.

Red Witch? Butch? Janet Reno returns? Huma's lost her Wiener forever? and so on - ad infinitum, ad nauseum and finally ad ridiculum.

Extraneus

It's no consolation that it took a "devout Mormon" to object to that "lesson." They've apparently used it before. No one else has ever stood up?

Extraneus

Imagine the thrill the "professor" got from making Christians stomp on those pieces of paper without complaint?

boris

“Gee, I wonder if the instructor would dare do this with the name of Mohammed Obama,”

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--That said, with the tide running so strongly in favor of gay rights, it would be (IMHO) a shame of the Court tried to lead in a situation where they could easily choose to follow (as they did with Loving v. Virginia.)

In trying to split that difference I predict the Court will find some gay-friendly non-bold middle ground to rule on these cases.--

We can but hope no legal or Constitutional principles are allowed to interfere with the process.

Threadkiller

I am not going to stop drinking until Lyle de-lurks.

You will have Bloody-Marys on your hands, dear sir, if this lasts thru the weekend.

narciso

OT, this is not a way to 'win friends and influence people'


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-Manhunt-Reward-in-Question-Riverside-Police-Union-199977381.html

Threadkiller

Wow! I didn't think I would derail you so quickly, Danube.

Has a Supreme Court interpretation or Congressional application of Congress' unequivocal power to create uniform rules of naturalization existed that exceeds that power?

boris

A lot are predicting SCOTUS punts the case on the issue of standing. Prop 8 put the state government in a no win position. No advantage to the dimorats in defending to win or defending to lose. As the only legitimate party with standing to defend they shirked their obligation.

Thus Judge Walker ruled against an undefended position and that will likely be vacated on a technicality.

daddy

I feel sorry for the second generation of humans who grow up on Mars once we colonize the Red Planet:

Skloor: "Hey Zarg, the Earthlings want another "objective observer from Mars", to come visit their planet and decide on sex between humans and kangaroos."

Zarg: "Oh geez, not again. Look' it, I already did my "objective observer from Mars" duty down there on sex between humans and androids, and then again on sex between transgendered immigrants and manatees, and also the one on sex between gay robots and methane powered Prius's, so I ain't doing another one. Tell them earthlings to take their damned "objective observer from Mars" schtick and shove it up their Sandra Flukes. Why can't those Earth jackasses decide things for themselves without always needing "an objective observer from Mars"?

Skloor: "Probably because they been banging jackasses for the last 2 decades down there in Folsom Street parades, then appointing the cloned offspring to the One World Supreme Court."

Zarg: "Ai Yi Yi, yi Yi."

etc...

narciso

He certainly agrees,

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/99801/2109262-21555309.jpg

maryrose

lyle: Keep posting. I like how you think.
I agree with Jane. This is an issue for the states to figure out.
CH; I am sorry for your friend's dilemma. "Hell hath no fury etc." She obviously thought this woman was kind, and compassionate only to find out differently. She caught your friend at a vulnerable point in her life. I hope it resolves quickly.
I have to admit the forcing of religious people to marry these couples gives me pause. No one should be forced to do anything that compromises their moral principles. Remember when the two certainties in life were death and taxes?

Rick Ballard

Daddy,

Has the boss modified per diem in dear Nippon yet to reflect the successful devaluation?

Danube of Thought on iPad

"Has a Supreme Court interpretation or Congressional application of Congress' unequivocal power to create uniform rules of naturalization existed that exceeds that power?"

So far as I know no one has ever even contended that the Congress, in enacting either the citizenship act of 1790 or Title 8, U.S. Code Section 1401, was exceeding its naturalization power (certainly the Congress itself did not think so); thus the Court has never had occasion to rule on such a claim, though I am confident it would make very short work of it.. Yet in neither instance were they limiting themselves to the narrow interpretation of "naturalization" as meaning only conferring citizenship on those who were born non-citizens.

When was John McCain naturalized? Marco Rubio? Ted Cruz? John c. Fremont (first Republican presidential candidate, son of a Frenchma)?

It will be up to Orly Taitz, now that Leo Donofrio has declared his own lunacy, to persuade some court, somewhere, that a citizen at birth is not eligible for the presidency. I'm sure she can count on your support.

matt

The argument is between the law, or the tradition and basis for our culture and relativism.

The law embodies the wisdom and tradition of justice going back far into the past. The original basis of most Western law is the 10 Commandments and was firmly rooted in the Judeo - Christian faith.

Marriage was usually performed in the church or synagogue, but was recognized and adjudicated both in civil and religious courts.

The Church and State were intertwined until the 18th Century in most countries. The United States was the first that advocated the separation of Church & State, as I recall.

But at the same time, the Judeo-Christian based law was paramount.

Slavery, the great civil rights failure in this country, was recognized as an abomination at the founding of the Republic even by many who owned slaves such as Washington and Jefferson. This was a matter of conscience and faith. However, commerce won out.

The civil rights movement was an effort to eliminate that stain and as M.L. King said we should be judged on the content of our character.

But the relativistic argument that gay marriage is equal to heterosexual marriage is patently false. It is prima facie inequal.No children can normally issue from such a marriage and childbearing and rearing is still one of the primary functions of the institution, however imperfect.

A mule is not the same as a horse no matter how much we want it to be so.

The definition of marriage as between a man and a woman is one of the oldest norms of history. Perhaps the first norm.

Polygamy has been a part of some cultures but faded because of longer lifespans and the cost of multiple wives as much as any other factor.

The basic unit works because it has been tested for 5,000 years and been found to be the most efficient and economical form of family unit.

We live in an age of fantasy and unrealistic expectations.People want things to be true and to be validated.

However, if the facts do not validate their dreams they are prepared to ignore the facts.

I don't care if they call them civil unions, but I do care for a preferential option for the nuclear family. God knows we need it in this world.

The "progressive" part of society is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Perhaps Skinner's experimental results with rats are valid, because as we crowd together more and more we are seeing birth rates drop and the notions of sexuality redefined.

Politics is about power and the control of budgets and resources. In this, the whole thing is the same old political game it has always been.

But in the end, if you do have faith, the rules were laid out millenia beforehand across cultures.

Threadkiller

"When was John McCain naturalized? Marco Rubio? Ted Cruz? John c. Fremont (first Republican presidential candidate, son of a Frenchma)?"

When were they President?

So far as I know no one has contended that Congress, upon repeal of certain language within the citizenship Naturalization(FTFY) Act of 1790, and enactment of the Naturalization Act of 1795 was exceeding its naturalization power.

maryrose

TK;
I am going out on a limb here and I hope you forgive me, but Ted Cruz is eligible to run for President as is Marco Rubio. The left will attack but I am totally convinced they are good to go.

Threadkiller

Thanks to Lyle, I am too hammered to challenge you, maryrose.

At this point, what does it really matter...

Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet

That's just it, TK. With respect, it just doesn't matter. At least to me.

daddy

We just got a new 1 million dollar bus stop. How bout that!

"In the end, the new stop cost $575,000 for construction and fabrication and $440,000 for construction management and inspections,

Janet,

I'm outraged. That wasteful expenditure would have paid for a night in a Paris Hotel for Biden, plus a limousine. Shame on you:(

Jack is Back!

You know the great thing about lurking is knowing you have nothing to contribute:) I would take Sarkozy for President over the one we have now. So, save me the NBC arguments. Whats more important is the future of this great (once?) country not some micro interpretation of our constitution. Leave that for the Supremes. That's there job, not yours.

Threadkiller

And I don't let your apathy bother me, Jim. ;-)

What does bother me, a little, is when Danube puts words into my posts.

Everybody suffers when that happens.

narciso

Have you read much of Stuart Woods Stone Barrington series, JiB, I noticed this one in the LUN, while at the Dentist,

Ditto for Niko he wasn't perfect, but as a Gaullist who is. Certainly not that jackwagon
Chirac, or that blanc mange Balladur.

daddy

Still doing catch-up, but in reading about the Mormon student apparently winning the apology from the University and the Professor in making him step on the name Jesus, this question crossed my mind.

Do you guys think that following Mitt Romney's campaign run, that Mormon's are now viewed as more acceptable to most of the public, less acceptable to most of the public, or pretty much still the same as they were viewed prior to Mitt's run? And when I mean still the same, I mean viewed stereotypically as a sort of a cultish collection of oddball former polygamists, somewhat like the 19th Century equivalent of Scientologists.

My guess is that Mitt probably improved their popular image because he knocked off some of the edges on some of the standard stereotypes simply because he became familiar to America as a decent man, regardless of his uninspiring candidacy.

And my guess is also that this Mormon student not knuckling under to his Lefty Prof and the University is probably also winning positive opinions among the general populace.

daddy

A lyle of resident lesbians:)

Sue

For the record I didn't listen to or read anything about oral arguments today. I have no prediction based on anything other than cynicism. SSM will become the new Roe v Wade in June.

narciso

Well one of the good exchanges on the subject, Counselor you don't even know your own argument;

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/03/reaction-to-prop-8-oral-argument/#comments

daddy

I have to admit the forcing of religious people to marry these couples gives me pause.

I seem to recall Reverend Moon of the Moonies deciding to hold mass marriages of hundreds of couples, and that he and his church would pick who was going to be the individuals in the marriage; not the bride and groom doing the choosing but the Church or Reverend Moon himself mandating that this guy over here will marry that girl over there and so on.

Just for interest, since marriage is such a big deal and massive commitment, and to my view not something that should be entered into lightly, do we have any statistics on the amount of Moonie marriages that ended in divorce? Just wondering.

narciso

Ah, that line, about removing all doubt;

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/03/25/Shep-Smith-Reading-List-Left

Jack is Back!

narciso,

I love Stuart Woods but most importantly i love the USA beating Mexico tonight.

Captain Hate

Terps make the Final Four of the historic NIT with a squeaker at Alabama tonight 58-57. On to MSG!

Captain Hate

Shocking that Shemp doesn't read the WSJ.

DrJ

Cap'n,

I still have my boy parts, though I don't vote them. And MarkF is right: No woman should be cursed by my looks.

I responded to your "wimminz" question simply because there are occasions where the use of "Ms." has no connotations for anything from the fuzzy-legged era. Cathyf agreed.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Shouldn't arguments about gay marriage be called "sodomy" arguments rather than "oral" arguments, or have they co-opted another perfectly serviceable heterosexual word now?

narciso

Yeah, that was a squeaker, Captain.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Well, time for Justified.

Captain Hate

I always appreciate your input, DrJ.

Captain Hate

Time for Golden Boy

Clarice

I agree, too, Dr J. Though for most years that I practiced so many people were unused to women lawyers my correspondence came addressed to "Mr. Clarice...."

narciso

It's interesting that Drew Thomson, a variation on Andrew Thornton, is like an older version of
Kevin Spacey's Mel Proffitt, from Wiseguy.

Threadkiller

Replacing oral with sodomy
Does not sound odd to me
but without an addition
To help with that position
You've excluded Huma and Hillary

Jack is Back!

I have never used Ms. and I could care less if some lady is offended. You are either married or not. If you want to experss your liberal ideas of salutation on me fine but I don't accept. Its the way I roll, as hit would say.

Janet

I agree with Sue.

DrJ

Mr. Clarice? No way. He's that fellow you share a house with. :)

It is interesting that most women I run into whose marriage status I don't know have Ph.D.s. No Ms. for them!

Clarice

It's a polite honorific for women whose marital status you do't know.It lon predates the feminist movement..my 6th grade teacher used to use it, for example.

Mark Folkestad

DrJ, don't demean yourself. Why, it was all I could do to swat away all those adoring co-eds who were offering their luscious bodies to you, while we were lunching in Dinkytown.

Captain Hate

It lon predates the feminist movement..my 6th grade teacher used to use it, for example.

I sit corrected.

Rick Ballard

Ignatz,

It's simply a reflection of the incredible rate of devolution since Lawrence. Things are moving even faster than the rate at which Detroit has turned into Port au Prince.

daddy

Has the boss modified per diem in dear Nippon yet to reflect the successful devaluation?

Not yet Rick. He doesn't have to since all that stuff is spelled out in our Contract, but the new contract negotiations have been going on now for a number of months, so we'll see what next contract brings.

Just for interest, here is the current excludable Per Diem allowance (not including our hotels or transportation) which I think is based on the US Govt per diem rate for some of regular cities:

Narita---$127 (We get $70)
Osaka---$191 (We get $70)
Paris----$173 (We get $70)
Bangalore---$66 (We get $70)
Taipei---$142 (We get...you guessed it, $70)

I have no complaints. All sorts of ways exist in most of these places to easily make that $70 go a long way---cups of Ramen noodles, stuffing oneself on free popcorn at the Jet Leg, etc.

Manuel Transmission

Mrs. MT used to get mail addressed to MR. M.S. Herfirstname Ourlastname. And her first name is clearly a woman's name. We would laugh every time a letter showed up.

daddy

Ask and ye shall recieve.

I got married in a Moonie mass wedding

Yikes!

Shortly after getting married, my wife and I independently — but almost at the same time — decided we no longer could remain in the church...The marriage did not survive but we remain on good terms and are immensely proud of our children.

cathyf
Jim, thanks for the link, that was a vile episode, and thank God that right prevailed, and that it was so quickly resolved. Do you have any ideas on why they changed their minds so rapidly? they almost seem to be groveling in contrast to their hard accusations of the day before.
One other thing -- the news article that I read quoted the assignment from the textbook. Yes it's totally flaky and wildly inappropriate for a college level class, but the textbook was pretty clear that the point of the exercise was to have a discussion about why the students didn't step on the papers!

One of my FB friends -- who is also a college professor -- suggested the following:

I have a suggestion: for the 6th Edition, they should replace the exercise with having the teacher pass out American Flags to everybody, and see how popular that is.

And for the seventh edition, they should have the students write the teacher's name in full on the paper, and then write every swear word and insult they can think of next to the teacher's name - but not their own names - and then pass them around and have the students stand up and read all the insults, as in "F--- Dr Smith with a broken bottle" and so on. But they'd never know who wrote which ones. Then the professor who chose this book can experience the importance of symbols all on his own.

MarkO

My second and fourth grade teachers were, respectively, Miss Kindred and Miss Bond. They lived happily together. It was long ago in a far away galaxy. But, it was "Miss."

Rick Ballard

Daddy,

In October, $70 bought ¥5390, today it buys ¥6720. Have you noted any large changes in prices?

Melinda Romanoff

And for the Eighth Edition they can issue aluminum bats....

Enough with The Stooges as Educators toolbox. Where's the metaphor, now comes the hard part, type of "adult" education? Or is it all just a cash extraction exercise from the middle class?

Caro's iPad

DrJ is a hunk who pretends to be a nerd.

Captain Hate

matt do you have any idea what's going on with UCLA basketball? It used to be the gold standard in elite program status but now I'm not hearing any rumors of any primo coaches interested in taking the job. What I am hearing rumors about is possible sanctions. And that the support the program's getting is iffy at best.

Melinda Romanoff

Rick-

Have a nice White Paper. (ZH piece linking to a great research paper.)

daddy

Rick B,

Not much, tho' I have noticed that a pint of Guinness in our regular hangouts in downtown Osaka is now up to $10 US---outrageous.

When I first visited Japan in @ early 80's I remember when it was 1 Dollar US equalled about 330 Yen. Now it's probably about 1 Dollar equals just over 100 yen. Since I only really ever buy food and drinks over here, and not at expensive restaurants, I don't have a feel for more expensive goods, so the Yen still has a feel to me of being sort of monopoly money. If I was paying to fill up my gas-tank over here or to pay rent I'm sure I'd have a better sense of the value of my money.

BTW, It is the Japanese High School Baseball Championships that are going on over here on live TV broadcasts. Googling Japanese Baseball Fightsongs I came across this interesting link:

Fight songs---Baseball news from Japan and Asia

Each player has some sort of song sung for them every time they come to bat, but if they are a really good player or a hometown here, then the song becomes personalized and is only used for them personally (ie)

Let it go now - fiery hitting
Lin Wei Tsu, Lin Wei Tsu, aim for victory.

or

"Lew! Lew!"
Let's go, Ford! Lew Ford, let's go!
"Lew! Lew! Fight! Fight! Fight!"
"Lew Ford! Lew Ford!"

Fight songs are an indication of the player's status - to have your own fight song is a sign you have arrived. A player can be on the regular roster and make regular appearances but will not have the same status as one who has his own fight song. Sometimes the player has to wait a few years to get one and some never get one. They are composed by fans and approved by the Tigers fan club. A few years back a Yakuza (Japanese gangsters) linked cheering club claimed royalties by saying they composed the songs. As a result of the fraud being exposed all the songs were changed except Hiyama's which pre-dated the claim.

This morning they've been playing a quick, obnoxious version of "Popeye The Sailor Man" over and over and over again to rally the fans. Ai Yi Yi!

narciso

Sounds like they are playing with the shiny Cobalt bomb, that never goes wrong.

GUS

Mel. When Obama and the LIBTARDOCRATS took federal control of guaranteed student loans, how on fegging earth did it not receive more scrutiny form the GOP?

Melinda Romanoff

Gus-

Now the Feds are the sole originators of ALL student loans, with no securitization (which would involve some scrutiny).

And early day tomorrow. Thursday will be even better, I get to play in a very, very large physics lab again, and you all, and I, pay for it. Whoo-hoo!

GUS

We wanna peecha, not a berry eetcha!!

GUS

Mel the term is REDISTIBUTION. Drip by drip by drip by drip. They drip, Boehner guzzles.

narciso

It's not the particle accelerator ring place, is it?

GUS

For a woman named Melinda, Mel does a lot of RENAISSANCE MAN stuff.

Rick Ballard

Mel,

That's a very nice, well researched paper. The thing about it which bugs the hell out of me is the lack of examination of the changes to the predicates upon which all the very sophisticated "tomorrow will probably be much like today" modeling is very shakily based. The repeal of Okun's Law looks to be permanent and the Taylor Rule error bars have become positively obese. The very sophisticated ARIMA modeling used by the Fed and the CBO is generating absolute garbage and the markets stumble forward propelled by unicorn farts and pixie dust.

There is absolutely no hope of "better and more sophisticated rules" being of any help here in Fantasyland.

Threadkiller

Wright or wrong?

http://www.fairfield-sun.com/10372/letters-debate-whitehead-first-in-flight-claims/

matt

no, CH....UCLA is pretty barren right now. Howland had a lot of baggage coming into the job and now I think we need a brilliant younger coach.

peter

Acckk-- I am so far behind on this thread-- need coffee--

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