Expect The Unexpected

David Brooks has an interesting column appraising the implementation of ObamaCare. However, he taxes my impulse control and nearly prompts head-banging and hair-pulling with this:

Everything is turning out to be more complicated than originally envisioned.

Envisioned by whom?!?!? Anyone who has ever renovated a bathroom has had an opportunity to learn that there is no project so simple that it won't be underestimated. One might have hoped that the wizard who removed lots of the asbestos from Altgeld Gardens had learned that, but no.

To continue the gloom:

Then there is the technical cascade. At some point, people are going to sit at computers and enroll. If the data process looks like some 1990s glitchmonster, if information doesn’t flow freely, then the public opinion hit will be catastrophic.

Then there is the cost cascade. Nearly everybody not in the employ of the administration agrees this law does not solve the cost problem, and many of the recent regulatory decisions will send costs higher.

...

Then there is the adverse selection cascade. Under the law, young healthy people subsidize poorer, sicker and older people. But the young may decide en masse that it is completely irrational for them to get health insurance that subsidizes others while they are healthy. They’ll be better off paying the fines, if those are even enforced, and opting out. Without premiums from the young, everybody else’s costs go up even higher.

Then there is the provider concentration cascade. The law further incentivizes a trend under way: the consolidation of hospitals, doctors’ practices and other providers. That also boosts prices.

Obama will be fining healthy young people of favored ethnic or gender status? I can relieve that concern - pigs will fly first. Unless the only non-enrollees are Mitt Romney's sons, it will be waivers all around. Why bother electing patronage politicans unless they deliver the patronage?

Brooks closes with a deplorable false choice:

Regulatory regimes can be simple and dumb or complex and sprawling. When you build complex, it takes a while to work through the consequences.

We have the trifecta of complex, sprawling and dumb.

TO WHICH I SHOULD ADD: Chicago machine politicians, to pick a nearly random example of Big Government types, aspire to create an impenetrably complicated governing structure with themselves as the indispensable intermediaries between their constituents and that indecipherable government.

ObamaCare is simply the Dems attempt to bring that ploy to the national stage. Eager Democrats lok to the day they can double their staffs and provide endless constituent service as broker to Health and Human services.

And what about the notion of a government of laws, not of men? In practice, if the government is allowed to write enough complicated rules we end up with a de facto government of men. Which is great for professional power brokers, if not the rest of us.

Comments

[NK]

May I be the first to say David Brooks is a F*&^king imbecile. That is all.

[NK]

TomM-- excellent snark in your 3rd full graph.

[NK]

TomM-- you are a NYT reader-- what was the Brooks ObummerCare position in 2009-2010? was he a supporter? if so, as all of these disasters were foretold by rightwingers opposing ObummerCare, isn't he calling himself an imbecile for supporting ObummerCare?

[James D.]

NK, you're FAR too kind about Brooks.

For one thing, he'd have to add about 50 IQ points to rise to the level of "imbecile"

[Manuel Transmission]

Jane, if you are interested, we have a friend in Naples that you would hit it off with. She is about your age and as much of a wallflower. Heh.

She and her hubby were the team that sold our company years ago and they are well established in the area (country club and all that).

[Rick Ballard]

The guy who looks like he might be Dr. Gosnell's son did speak at the Planned Genocide event.

[pagar]

Is that the same guy that had to use fraud to get on the ballot?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/officials-found-guilty-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud/#ixzz2RaU8FGuu

[Frau Strafe]

Every day I'm reminded how much Stanley Ann's mistake is punishing us all.

[NK]

was abortion legal in Hi in 1960?

[Jane on Ipad]

Man. Tran,

Now that might be fun - or very weird, one or the other. It seems like a lot to ask of a non -JOMer.

So now we know the judge that mirandized suspect # 2 did it on her own volition, with instructions from no one . I gotta find out who that was. We also know they think a 3rd bomber may have been involved because you had to be within sight of the bombs to set them off.

[A Sharper Crease]

This is volunteer non-reimbursible kind of work for him, right? He doesn't actually get paid to think and then write it down, does he?

[matt]

"Why bother electing patronage politicans unless they deliver the patronage?"

Here in California, we found out this morning that the prime contractor on the train to nowhere is Richard Bloom, the husband of Dianne Feinstein.

Talk about a corrupt system.

[steve]

Funny how Brooks, in his attempt to portray himself as wise, actually reveals himself to have been quite clueless.

As TM puts it, anyone paying attention would have known all (plus more) of what Brooks writes about now.

[pagar]

Wonder if he is into chickens?

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/04/25/feinstein-moves-from-cocked-bushmasters-to-hens/

Can not believe this will benefit consumers!

[Ignatz]

--Regulatory regimes can be simple and dumb or complex and sprawling.--

Or they can be minimal and constitutional and get the hell out of the way so the free market can work.

--When you build complex, it takes a while to work through the consequences.--

Or, as I suspect will happen in this case, you can apply the Gordian knot solution when the mess you've created cannot be fixed.

[C.R.]

Hey Matt - don't forget we also learned that there is a bill being proposed in the CA assembly to allow non-citizens to serve as jurors. Is this a great state or what?

[Rob Crawford]

Or, as I suspect will happen in this case, you can apply the Gordian knot solution when the mess you've created cannot be fixed.

The knife that cuts the Gordian Knot of Obamacare will not be repeal. It will be collapse. The left will never allow Obamacare to be repealed, just replaced with total nationalization of healthcare.

[Sandy Daze (on new HTC One)]

david brooks -» just not that bright.

In fact calling him a ignorant imbecile is an insult to ignorant imbeciles. But, let's recall that he is the face or conservative thought to NYT readers, or at least that is how he is promoted.

In that regard he is not dissimilar to peggy noonan, who identifies obama fatigue in her latest WSJ sludge, which I refuse to link.

Calling them both clueless cretins is an insult to... oh hell, you know the rest.

They are despicable.

[Gus]

David Brooks wants to belong to something.
Anything.

[NK]

RobC@323-- that is of course the plan of the Left. But there is the matter of national bankruptcy which will intervene. No money, no NHS. When there is no money it gets ugly fast-- a Leftist in my office (a rare civil one) has capitulated to my factual arguments about current healthcare finance-- she now defaults to Dr and Hospital fraud cheating medicare/Medicaid and insureds-- so she now says screw all the doctors, cut fees in half. Oddly enough-- that's kinda close where I come out-- for medicaid/medicare anyway.

[NK]

The Euro crisis-- It's Blitzkreig only without ze Panzers. Been saying this for 3 years-- now do ze germans leave the EuroZone and create the nu mark, or do they kick the periphery out of the EuroZone?:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-26/germanys-virtuous-circle-takeover-europe

[James D.]

Or they can be minimal and constitutional and get the hell out of the way so the free market can work.

But in a minimal and constitutional regulatory scheme, there's no room for Ivy League-credentialled technocrats to run other people's lives.

Obviously that's unacceptable - lumpenproles who only went to a state university, or who only finished high school, being allowed to run their own lives? That's unpossible!

[matt]

It's funny how @ 70% or so of the American people were dead set against Obamacare and yet the Left rammed it through on Christmas Eve, in the middle of the night, with no one having read the bill.

Now that the monster is gestating like something out of an Alien movie, the same people who were so for the bill are abandoning the ship like rats.

The best degrees at the best schools and the best conversations and access to the best advice did nothing to prevent, and instead promoted this monstrosity.

Over in Europe, exactly nothing has changed except the passage of time, which has allowed the bank balance sheets to heal a bit. Sovereign debt is still a time bomb and we now have global currency mills.

As mel mentions, the battle is between deflation and inflation, but the balance sheets of the nations and entities (EU) involved are worse than ever.

I still think there is going to be a schwerpunkt where it all unravels, including Obamacare.

[glasater]

As a sidelight to NK's 3:46 link, Yra Harris-a wonderful and often commentator on Rick Santelli's morning segments on CNBC-has an interesting blog post re Germany:

http://yragharris.com/2013/04/17/emotion/

I try to check in with what's on his mind from time to time.

[Cecil Turner]

I'm surprised nobody's gone for the thing no one expects :

Our three weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope

[NK]

JournoList never went away-- like Barro, BoyBlunder Ezra Klein bitches and moans about the Repubs winning sequestration. He gives them too much credit.... OPM running out is winning on sequestration-- just wait "$83B" is the tip of the iceberg. Soon enough it will be $830B in real cuts: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/26/the-democrats-have-lost-on-sequestration/

[peter]

Even a pants crease can lose its attractiveness after five years. Woody Allen used to say his favorite section of the New york Times was the shipping page (which they discontinued.) I would say the weather page is the sole enjoyable and intelligent section at this point.

[Rob Crawford]

When I see toddlers stand the way Bammer is in the photo at LUN, they're typically filling their diapers.

[Gus]

Matt. The Obamacare Christmas was RAPE. The LEFT, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, David Obey got the credit for writing the bill, et al, had power, and a big time dream of NATIONALIZED HEALTH CARE. They didn't think there would be any consequences. THERE AREN'T...FOR THEM. So they raped America, and now, it's too late to unrape us.

[NK]

RobC@4:44-- LOL!! I remember that look and may see it again if I ever have grandkids.
There are no words to describe the infinite imbecile that is Obummer (proper grammar?)

[Sandy Daze]

Thanks ! Cecil Turner @ April 26, 2013 at 04:24 PM

[Threadkiller]

The Four need to get Bob Beckel a doctor.

He's gonna keel...

[Sue]

NK,

You can be the first. You won't be the last.

[bunkerbuster]

1. Private health care insurance is already complex, inefficient and ineffective in controlling costs. Medicare, by contrast, is much simpler, more efficient and effective at controlling costs.
2. I don't personally know any liberal who prefers "Obamacare" to the much simpler, more efficient and cost-controlling single payer model.
3. "Obamacare" is complex because the president made the political calculation that single payer would get shot down by millions in lobbying dollars from pharma and insurance companies. The solution: design a system that lets drugmakers and insurance companies reap profit, but still provides healthcare for virtually everyone.
Again, I know no liberals who like this idea in principle, though there are many, including myself, who say it's better than the current ludicrously inefficient, ineffective and costly system.
Nor do I know anyone who doesn't assume "Obamacare" is a transition program that will evolve toward single-payer.
I do know conservatives that are smart enough to know that millions of uninsured Americans are going to get health care, one way or another, and that "Obamacare'' is the last bastion between a crazy-quilt system that facilitates fraud and price-gouging and a single-payer system that would take much of the profit out of health care.

[Jim Rhoads' iPhone]

Finally bubu acknowledges the ObamaCare camel's nose.

[DoT on iPad]

Geat comedy in Bubu's surrender soliloquy.

Yes, the vaunted NHS has shown us the magical efficiency of the single-payer system. Just about everyone who survives gets care, all of which is of third-world quality, and thousands die needlessly on waiting lists. But hey, not to worry--the good guys will be in charge.

It is like the unshakeable belief in the planned economy: it's gonna be great, because this time we'll get it right.

[George Jones is Dead but I'm Not!]

BuBu,

You think single payer is more efficient and cost-controlling then you should move to England or hell even closer Canada and then need to have a bypass, hip replacement, major cancer treatment or even something simple like a pacemaker installed. Then come back here and tell me all about it. I have lived in the UK and watched my private insurance make sure I got treatment instantly compared to the locals on single payer.

Since my knee issue and operation I can certify that we are screwing up the most efficient health care system in the world. If not, then why do affluent Euros, Arabs, Asians come here for the treatment. Forget the cost angle. Why screw up process, performance and results unequaled to the rest of the world. Now don't bring out your UN WHO stats which have been discredited by more than one academic study.

Yep. That's the idea lets take profit out of health care and watch the life expectency of those paying shoot up to new highs. What flavor of Kool-Aid do you drink? Tutti-Frutti?

[Threadkiller]

Why is Obamacare in quotes?

[NK]

As MelR would say-- NEW TALKING POINTS ARE OUT--

David Brooks, all the JournoListers, BuBu-- everyone on Soros' and Buffett's payroll now admit ObummerCare can't 'work' won't reduce costs etc etc-- basically admitting to everything we rightwingers said about it in 2009-2010. The new talking points are-- ObummerCare is a failure-- let's go Full Monty to National Health-- the glories of NHS. What a bunch of lying bastards.

[jimmyk]

The left worships this notion of "single payer" without a clue about the real world. Just check out how many doctors don't take medicare to get a feel for the state of medicine under socialism. And the vaunted efficiency and simplicity of Medicare is another great myth. I'd concede that Obamacare may well turn out to be even worse, but that's no great accomplishment for Medicare.

[Captain Hate]

a crazy-quilt system that facilitates fraud and price-gouging

Created by government intervention and the JEF's solution? MOAR GOVERNMENT.

[Ignatz]

Bubu finally admits what any sensible person recognizes as the tried and true leftist method; find a small problem, inflame it to crisis proportions with a government "solution" and when the solution proves ten times worse than the problem and everyone complains, nationalize it so no one can do anything about their complaints.

[Jack is Back!]

Sequestration News:

Mrs. JiB and Frederick flew out of MCO (Orlando) to ISP (Islip) today for a short stay in Southampton. They flew Southwest and had a 20 minute delay in departure and a 10 minute delay in landing. Now MCO is one busy airport but with only one other (Sanford International) with regularly scheduled flights nearby. So allocation is not the problem there like in Chicago, Denver, LA and New York. But to me its a red herring and one that will bloody the Obama thugministration.

Weathter good up there on the Island. But that can change in a heartbeat. Driving back from Orlando on I-4 and 95 noticed that the annual Canadian exodus is taking place in droves. More Quebec and Ontario licenses than Florida. Also lots of New York, New Jersey and Penn. Tee times now become as rare as fresh air.

[narciso]

Trying to make Brooks, seem logical, no good can come of this, meanwhile, heck of a job, Steadman;

http://twitchy.com/2013/04/26/fox-news-does-line-of-sight-detonation-method-suggest-third-marathon-bomber-video/

[Skoot]

The Plum Line (J. Bouie, LUN) posted the same story today that Brooks wrote yesterday. Huh...unexpected.

[NK]

JiB-- enjoy the Southampton stay. Any chance you're going into MANhattan, I am free saturday evening.

[narciso]

Something else, more interesting then Brook's musings;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/news/Mumbai-Indians-look-at-ways-to-tackle-Chris-Gayle/articleshow/19747486.cms

[NK]

The Comments about the UCONN Husky Twichy are fab: http://twitchy.com/2013/04/26/ashley-judd-is-that-you-student-says-uconns-husky-logo-is-a-pro-rape-symbol/

[narciso]

Bath Salts deposits discovered at U Conn, NK?

[narciso]

Speaking of raw crazy;

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/26/boston-suspects-mom-was-also-on-terror-watchlist-sources-tell-ap/

[Jack is Back!]

Te'O to San Diego. DoT, TK and MarkO, I have his skype number if you need it:)

[Jack is Back!]

If Fat Rex thought he had a bunch of brain dead QB's before then he is in for a new revelation in neurological surgery. Even Ben Casey couldn't save this crowd.

[peter]

I think the single payer folks think they can force doctors to work for their system.

[Jack is Back!]

NK,

I stayed in Florida. They are on their own. I have a knee post op evealuation on Monday.

narciso,

Funny. The only way to stop Chris Gayle is a well placed googaly. But mostly wear him down with leg sidespinners. The man is a giant of batsmen. My favorite team outside of England are the Westies and this year they will be formidable.

[pagar]

Has anyone mentioned this?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/officials-found-guilty-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud/#ixzz2RaU8FGuu

[Threadkiller]

Only you and me, pagar.

JiB, he will fit right in.

[Extraneus]

Just check out how many doctors don't take medicare to get a feel for the state of medicine under socialism.

Doctors should be forced to submit. What gives them the right not to?

[Jack is Back!]

Willie Brown! Pangs of Nostalgia.

Manelik Watson? Meh!

[Threadkiller]

Remember this?

http://www.thegopnet.com/gingrich-perry-to-miss-virginia-ballot-74701

[Threadkiller]

Link seems bum. Try:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/perry-disqualified-from-va-primary-ballot/2011/12/23/gIQA3BZNEP_blog.html

[narciso]

Yes, right you'll get right on it;

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/26/oreilly-to-beck-on-saudi-national-story-were-always-willing-to-give-you-a-hearing/comment-page-6/?corder#comments

[pagar]

TK, I couldn't find where you had. I thought it was kind of important. So many of my posts have disappeared I can't remember which posted and which didn't. I guess there is so much fraud involved that people have just gotten numb over it.

[narciso]

Yes, you did, pagar, in an earlier thread.

[pagar]

"Doctors should be forced to submit."

I had 20 plus years of a system where the doctor that saw you or your family might have preferred to be some where else. Believe me if given a choice always choose the one who wants to be taking care of you.

[Threadkiller]

I posted the trial, pagar. Pre verdict.

Uncomfortably numb...

[narciso]

Actually it was earlier in the same thread.

[Jack is Back!]

Bostic. Another Gator. Too bad we haven't had any QB's since 2011.

When is the honey badger going to impress his coetierie?

[Jack is Back!]

Skins. Good pick with Amerson. fast little guy and a top cover guy with lots of weaknesses to work on. That is what pro coaches do.

Plus it puts NC back in the Redskins coverage territory.

[derwill]

I know the libs think that when Obamacare crashes and burns, they will get single payer. I wonder, though, where they think the support for even more government intervention in health care will come from? What are they going to say--we effed up badly the last time with Obamacare, but trust us, this time we'll get it right? Yeah, sure. About the only people stupid enough to believe that one are people like bubu.

The problem the Dems have with Obamacare is that it is proving to be such an unmitigated disaster and it is all theirs. They own the stinking mess and even the LIVs know it. The ads just write themselves: Obama's, Reid's and Pelosi's faces with a voice over saying you trusted these people with your health care last time and look at what they did. Do you dare trust them again?

And the best part is--the whole stinking mess bears their Messiah's name. OBAMAcare. I don't know who gets the credit for giving it that nickname (Palin?), but it was a brilliant piece of political theater.

[Jack is Back!]

Wondering out loud.

What if Barkley went draft last year? Where would he have ended up in the draft? Interesting, eh?

[Jane on Ipad]

Pager,

I'm always impressed with the stuff you find. Are you recovered from all the stuff you had post election?

[narciso]

And illustrating the definition of nazgul, are these folk;

http://twitchy.com/2013/04/26/palin-blasts-shameful-obama-planned-parenthood-speech-nasty-lefties-blast-her/

[RichatGMU]

hit-

I sent you an email. Sent in a message to FIRE and seeing what my legal insurance plan covers too. I feel pretty stupid about this.

[pagar]

Thanks, Jane, I pretty much have recovered from the physical medical issues. Mayo gave me a clean bill of health when I was there in Feb.It does seems like it has affected my mental abilities. Hard to believe I can't remember a link I posted a few hours before.

[DoT on iPad]

Perfect, Chargers. Just perfect.

And what in God's name are the Jets doing?

[narciso]

Some more details about the Canadian plot;

[MarkO]

The Chargers probably think that Teo is a diminutive of the Spanish for Matthew.

[Melinda Romanoff on Kindle]

DoT-

After the implosion, I would imagine a new GM.

By the way, I enjoyed a great lunch with GUS!!!! and henry today.

[Melinda Romanoff on Kindle]

Rich-

I missed what ever is going on. Anything I can bring to bear?

[Frau Strafe]

Are we easily duped or what? Fake passports, lies, rejected refugee status. It doesn't even matter.

Raed Jaser, 35, was born in Abu Dhabi but never obtained UAE citizenship, and he reportedly travels on a Jordanian passport. In 1993, the Jaser family arrived in Canada on fake passports after claiming they had been "terrorized" by anti-immigration groups in Germany, where they had been living for at least two years. While his parents were not given refugee status, according to the National Post, through Canada's "deferred program" they were allowed to stay and eventually obtained Canadian citizenship.

Raed Jaser did not obtain citizenship, however, due to a criminal record that included five counts of fraud, among other charges. In 2004, Canadian authorities tried to deport Jaser, but "as a stateless Palestinian, he could not be sent to any other country," the National Post reported.

Eight years later, Jaser was granted permanent resident status."

[Jane on Ipad]

Pager,

Don't get symptoms mixed up with age like I did. When I was diagnosed with a brain tumor my eyes started failing. I could not read, which put a dent in my profession. About 3 or 4 years later a friend suggested I try on some magnifying glasses (which I had never heard of ) and voila, I could read again, which was great, but my original skills have never returned.

Once I found out it was a misdiagnosis, a few years later The whole thing was comical, and pretty damn sad.

[Ignatz]

--I know the libs think that when Obamacare crashes and burns, they will get single payer.--

I suppose it depends a good deal on who is in power at the time but my suspicion is people will be so fed up with the radical transformation of the best healthcare in the world into an expensive worthless mess that the desire for MORE government involvement will be minimal.
Most of the rest of the world that went single payer did so at a time when healthcare was fairly primitive and much more easily managed by bureaucrats so the switch from private to public was probably not nearly as difficult or as noticeable as it will be for the US.

[Jack is Back!]

These guys are only minions. There are so many more laughing and drinking Corona with a lime in it who think one day they will blow your legs or ass of. Wathch yoursef when on parade or marathon or just plain 4th of July duty.

[derwill]

My thinking too, Ig. Obamacare is failing too fast for the libs. People will still be able to remember the way it used it to be, back in the good old days before that monstrosity got shoved down our throats. And the fact that a vast majority of the country never wanted it in the first place, will just make things even that much more uncomfortable for the Dems next year when voters' insurance premiums skyrocket, they lose their doctor and/or their job, get thire hours cut, etc, and all due to Obamacare.

[narciso]

Well that was the lesson going back to the first of the new Bond series, you don't go after a single bomber, you go after the cells, the network, If they used remotes, as some of the devices recovered, where did we see them setting them off.

[narciso]

Some times they think themselves too clever by half, recall that Ayers suffered from the same basic illusion; they though that this was just like South America, of course if it was they'd be all dead,

[Ignatz]

--next year when voters' insurance premiums skyrocket--

Mine just went up 30% so it's already here.
I'm pretty sure it was not coincidental that a couple of weeks after my rates skyrocketed that I got a letter from Blue Shield informing me of the good news that there was now no payment limit on my policy, that my kid can stay on it til she's 26 and I can't be denied a new policy for pre existing conditions.

Since Barry has magically made free lunches mandatory I can't imagine why the rate increase.

[DrJ]

Ignatz,

Don't forget that you and yours now have mandated pregnancy coverage. This benefits no one in my company, but we still have to pay for it.

[RichatUF nee GMU]

Anything I can bring to bear?

I had a dispute with an instructor, and then an associate dean, that has been referred to a board at school that can take disciplinary action. I got called in today but declined to go because I wasn't told what the issue was and wasn't prepared with other documentation. I don't think it is serious but anything disciplinary at school will interfere with my reimbursement for school at work.

[Rick Ballard]

"Mine just went up 30%"

IMO, Blue Shield/Blue Cross really want to be called on the carpet for "profiteering". They have their BOzocare models tuned up and they're ready to appear before Congressional committees and reveal the horseshit CBO/OBM tinker toy modeling as the flimflam that it is.

They recognize how unlikely it is that Congress will raise the BOzocare 15% OHP limit and they're unwilling to remain accomplices for such a low payback.

[Ignatz]

Yes, Rick, but once Barry explains to them that because they're non-profits they're overhead should be practically nil, I'm sure they'll see the numbers are crunchable.

[Ignatz]

Grrr *their overhead*

[narciso]

Wait this can't be right:

http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/04/who-didnt-let-the-dogs-out-did-boston-pd-fail-to-use-k-9-units-correctly-in-terrorist-hunt/

[Melinda Romanoff on Kindle]

Rich-

Get ahead of them and apologize for everything, including your application (but defend the acceptance to the death),they are small people in a contained community. They will accede if they feel they have gained submissive power over you. Let them.

Take the hit as best you can without losing standing. Don't losensight of that, but they do own you a bit.

[narciso]

crikey, rich, that's a lousy detail, on top of everything else,

[Threadkiller]

Aldo was busy, narciso.

He always gets his man.

[narciso]

Who's Aldo,

Is that your final answer;

http://pjmedia.com/blog/florida-tea-party-rep-on-boston-bombing-fbi-did-a-great-job/

[Captain Hate]

And what in God's name are the Jets doing?

They saved their incredibly bad choice for the second day.

[RichatGMU]

Mel and narciso-

Thanks. It is probably nothing. Me making a mountain out of a mole hill. Overall the semester has gone pretty well.

[narciso]

It's like they occam's razor and the stab themselves with the handle, snorfle.

So the FSB, the watertown office of the FBI and the CIA, all 'had their hair on fire,' with the Snopes from Machakachkala, yet crickets, every where else,