Gun Control. Or The Opposite

The head of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms likes Manchin-Toomey:

Alan Gottlieb, Chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, said in an email to supporters that "the gun grabbers have stepped into our trap" and that he looked forward to the bill's passage.

...

“The bill bans any federal gun registry and carries a 15 year prison term for anyone who violates it," he continues. “We protect and expand a good number of pro-gun rights measures as well.

But Dave Kopel says the amendment has the opposite result:

The Toomey-Manchin Amendment which may be offered as soon as Tuesday to Senator Reid’s gun control bill are billed as a “compromise” which contain a variety of provisions for gun control, and other provisions to enhance gun rights. Some of the latter, however, are not what they seem. They are badly miswritten, and are in fact major advancements for gun control. In particular:

1. The provision which claims to outlaw national gun registration in fact authorizes a national gun registry.

2. The provision which is supposed to strengthen existing federal law protecting the interstate transportation of personal firearms in fact cripples that protection.

Somebody may have outsmarted someone else. Now that Tiger has failed to win the Masters legal minds can turn elsewhere.

Comments

[Roll out the barrel.]

The point is to Damascene the barrels.
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[Threadkiller]

Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" -but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...

Vizzini: [Vizzini stops suddenly, his smile frozen on his face and falls to the ground dead]

Buttercup: And to think, all that time it was your cup that was poisoned.

Man in Black: They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to I-own-a-gun powder.

[Rob Crawford]

Odd thing is, I've never before heard of the "Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms", nor of Gottlieb. Gun Owners of America, Second Amendment Foundation, and NRA, I've heard of.

[Jim Eagle]

Its a false front.

[Rob Crawford]

Now I just read Gottlieb is part of Second Amendment Foundation...

[peter]

Drudge reporting multiple explosions at scene of Boston Marathon finish. Horrors.

[Gus]

Blame that BOSTON TEA PARTY!!! Get em Big Sis.

[Clarice]

Is it really that hard for reporters to google to keep from pimping for front groups?

[Dave (in MA)]

I hope this turns out to be a gas explosion, and not an attack.

[daddy]

They are badly miswritten...

Talk about badly miswritten bills:

15 April, 2013: Alaska Senate Bill 7 was amended in House Finance to include a provision that makes certain kinds of film productions ineligible for the Alaska State film tax credit. Now, productions such as infomercials, political advertisements and pornography will not be eligible for the film tax credit.

[NK]

Boston PD warning about trash bins is ominous.

[Rob Crawford]

Can't be an attack; Obama ended terrorism, remember?

[Clarice]

Live stream of bombing area:http://www.bloomberg.com/live-stream/

[Jane: Mock the Media]

This is going to suck for a long time. Now they are checking teh airports. Today is day 1 of school vacation?

[sbwaters]

But, I thought bombs were against the law.

[Jane: Mock the Media]

From Twitter: Luke Russert

Homeland Security source tells me Boston Firefighters discovered an undetonated device at corner of St. James Ave and Trinity place

[hit and run]

Short vid of one of the explosions

vine.co / v / bFdt5uwg6JZ

(take out the spaces, typepad eating my posts)

[Jane: Mock the Media]

At least 3 dead.

[NK]

Bomb find-- actualy that is a good thing. Important forensic evidence to track down the monster/maniacs.

[Jane: Mock the Media]

Lest you had any doubt:

Jennifer Griffin ‏

Sickening scenes from Boston. Looks like Jerusalem 2002. Boston bomb squad is on scene. Ball bearings found after 2 explosions.

[daddy]

The Boston Bombing is only a local crime story in Boston so obviously we won't be reading about it in the WaPo, correct?

[Louie X]

"Bomb find-- actualy that is a good thing. Important forensic evidence "

Not after they do a controlled detonation of it.

[Clarice]

Latest report 12 dead, dozens injured. Why shouldn't it look like a Jerusalem bombing, you suppose the Fightin Fundies did this?

[Beasts of England]

ABC mentions Newtown and gun control while discussing the bombing. Sick.

[Clarice]

New York Post
UPDATE: Reports of at least 12 dead and dozens more injured in Boston Marathon explosions.

Footage of the moment the explosions happened: http://nyp.st/117OgZK

[NK]

Photos, fusing, explosives used-- if Bomb experts were involved, forensic info was gleaned from the device before the controlled detonation.

[AliceH]

Timeless reminder from Jim Miller: "As almost all of you know, first reports are often wrong."

[MarkO]

Where, I ask, was Bill Ayers?

[jimmyk]

reposted from previous thread, Jeff Jerk Greenfield: "The point can't be made too often that in horrific events like this, first reports are often wrong. So it's with some hesitancy that I note that April 15 is Income Tax Day. It is a fact that sometimes, (Oklahoma City, for example), the date of an attack has significance."

Yes, I'm sure he hated to say it, but he just had to.

[Rocco]

Daughter just told me she read a Facebook post from her EMT buddies that one of them heard on a scanner that there's a fire at JFK Library...not sure if it's true

[Enlightened]

\\ABC mentions Newtown and gun control while discussing the bombing. Sick.//

Actually some of the parents from Newtown were VIP guests sitting at the finish line -I pray they are not any of the injured or dead.

[Louie X]

Someone has been watching too much CSI.

[NK]

MelR reminds that OKC and Waco were April 19th, not April 15th.

Greenfield? first reports are often wrong-- 'journalists' are invariably wrong.

[Rob Crawford]

Well, jimmy, the Occutards sure were upset over tax policy, weren't they?

[Janet]

Today is also Yom HaZikaron: Israel’s Memorial Day.

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

ABC mentions Newtown and gun control while discussing the bombing. Sick.

It's a lot closer to Gosnell seeing people are losing legs and toes.

[Rob Crawford]

Someone at Legal Insurrection says CNN blaming "right wing extremists".

These jackanapes WANT to push me over the edge?

[Captain Hate]

Here come the ghouls:

@NickKristof: explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director. Shame on Senate Republicans for blocking apptment

RT @LukeRussert: I was at Fenway Park w my dad and @mikebarnicle
during Waco which was on Patriots Day in 1993. Speculating on possible
link

The caring left...

[narciso]

This situation, comes to mind;

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/22/nation/na-terrorism-boston22

[Rick Ballard]

"you suppose the Fightin Fundies did this?"

Clarice,

It's probably retaliation by the Amish Clippers.

TC - please phone JOMe.

[Rocco]

al Qaeda's on the run...Boston Marathon? I blame Obama.

[Skoot]

Combat Vet just said on Fox news the injuries, mostly lower extremity, consistent with ground level explosion, and he smelled cordite. Definitely not a gas or transformer explosion.

[James D.]

CH, I'm surprised it took them this long.

They can't even wait for the ambulances to clear the scene before blaming their political opponents for a terrorist act.

Ghouls is far too good a word for them. They're barely a step up from the person/people who set the bombs, and I hope every one of the MSM jackals burns in hell.

[Threadkiller]

I sent TC a message, I will post when I hear from him.

Expect an unfunded war to start real soon.

Don't expect to hear anyone on the left complain about it.

[Beasts of England]

Actually some of the parents from Newtown were VIP guests sitting at the finish line -I pray they are not any of the injured or dead.

Not mentioned in that context, to my memory, but perhaps that could be true - I had thrown up in my mouth at that point.

ABC also found it necessary to mention that Biden was on the phone with gun control advocates at the time of the bombings. Diane Sawyer felt the need to wax romantic about Boston accents. I can't make this up...

[NK]

NY Post Report says suspect in custody in hospital: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/two_explosions_at_boston_marathon_iMR0LCkcwASg0RQfVsH1yI

[MarkO]

Diane's drunk. Give her a break.

[Enlightened]

B of E - of course you can't make it up - Only CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, AP, Reuters and blah blah blah make it up as they go along...

[Rob Crawford]

Diane Sawyer felt the need to wax...

OH, GOD, I'M GONNA HURL!!!!

... romantic about Boston accents.

NOT. MUCH. BETTER!!!!

1 -- Why are so many ancient fossils still around in the news business?

2 -- Why are so many of the new feces, er, faces, in news complete nobodies with no background in ANYTHING?

[Beasts of England]

But, I thought bombs were against the law.

Posted by: sbw | April 15, 2013 at 03:59 PM

Depends on the size of the magazine.

[Clarice]

From NYP: "here were two bombs that exploded near the finish line in today's Boston Marathon," The Boston Marathon's official Facebook page read. "We are working with law enforcement to understand what exactly has happened."

According to reports, authorities in Boston found two more explosive devices that had not gone off and police were dismantling them. The airspace above the city was ordered cleared as well.

Police confirmed a third explosion at JFK Library in Boston. It was unclear if the explosion was linked to the two earlier ones that took place at the Marathon."

[Janet]

That's what I always wonder, Rob. Who are these people?
And in a nation of millions...they keep those tired old moaning asses as their anchors? It doesn't even make sense.

[Marlene]

I listened to Howie Carr in the car while doing errands. Eyewitness accounts from several callers. Horrific.

[FredF]

"Authorities have a identified a suspect, a Saudi national, who is currently being guarded in a Boston hospital with shrapnel wounds. "

NYPost

[James D.]

I was just about to post that, FredF.

[Dave (in MA)]

http://player.tritonmedia.com/entercom/WRKOAM Howie Carr WRKO live audio feed

[Threadkiller]

TC is fine. He was driving into the city and diverted away.

[Rob Crawford]

"Authorities have a identified a suspect, a Saudi national, who is currently being guarded in a Boston hospital with shrapnel wounds. "

Clearly this Saudi national is a right-wing extremist protesting Tax Day.

Amazing how the press strains to hear zebras everytime one of these horses' asses pops up.

[NK]

Jihadis?

[MarkO]

Thank God it is only a Saudi. He will be a "lone wolf" unrelated to terror and deemed to be involved in "workplace violence."

Whew. That was close.

[Threadkiller]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/20/decision-to-extend-trusted-traveler-program-to-saudi-scrutinized/

[James D.]

Jihadis? Why would they attack us?

I mean, back in 2008, when we were air-raiding villages and bombing civillians, I could see where they might have cause to hate us.

But today, with a Nobel Peace Prize winner who's lived in the Muslim world and experienced the beauty of the morning call to prayer, and has reshaped our standing in the world, why would any Jihadi want to attack America?

[Jane - Mock the Media!]

TC's office is on the other side of Boston. This happened in the Newbury St area. He's in the Financial District.

Police confirmed a third explosion at JFK Library in Boston.

This however is in another area entirely.

[Skoot]

Chief of Police said there are no other devices at this time. People fled leaving bags and these are being called devices until cleared.

[MarkO]

Shep Smith is a fool.

[Clarice]

Suspect reportedly a Saudi national. That's from the police per Dan Collins.

[Enlightened]

Right wing extremists from Saudi Arabia also hijacked a plane from Boston on Sept 11 2001.

Not saying the alleged suspect is proven to be involved just saying what a coincidence it would be~

[Threadkiller]

http://www.realclearhistory.com/articles/2013/04/15/will_north_korea_provoke_again_in_april_104.html

[NK]

Breitbart says the NY POst report is UNconfirmed.

[Enlightened]

PS: that was sarcasm about the right wing extremists from Saudi Arabi....:o{|

[Threadkiller]

It could be The Five, MarkO.

Either way, you are still correct.

[Rob Crawford]

Anyone know if CAIR issued a statement yesterday about their concern over a backlash over today's bombing?

[MarkO]

I prefer "We Five" to "The Five."

[sailor]

Saudi suspect under guard at Boston hospital.

[NK]

Saudi National-- is that all from the NY Post, or have BPD confirmed?

[Janet]

TK, Thanks for the link at 5:00. A good reminder.

[Old Lurker]

Shep Smith just reported that two are dead, many wounded including nine who were decapitated.

Who said Shep is a fool?

[Jim Eagle]

I am devastated and really sad for Boston. One of my three favorite American cities behind Charleston and San Francisco. Forget the poltiics. I am a foodie and history buff. My time in Boston was large and wonderful to experience the greatest walking city in America. Great food, great genereous people with laughs and heartaches. Just llke the rest of us.

My heart is out there for all the Bostonians even Menino, who is a good guy just misdirected.

TC,

You know where I am here. I used to stay at the Copley before I decided the Harbour was easier to walk to the job.

[Janet]

Pictures here. One guy's legs are blown off.

[NK]

Breitbart reports that Fox reports person of interest in 'custody' but Boston PD say no 'arrest' of anyone.

[Jim Eagle]

NK,

Because the Boston police don't have him but the Feds!

[Skoot]

From the video, the first shot looks very fast, high order. The second slower, more flame, more of a deflagration. I would expect more concussive, frag injuries at the first. More flash burns at the second.

[Porchlight]

If the person of interest is indeed a Saudi national, they will withhold this information for as long as possible.

Then Big Janet may possibly have some 'splainin' to do:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/20/decision-to-extend-trusted-traveler-program-to-saudi-scrutinized/

[Mark Folkestad]

Shep just had on a Clinton administration flack who said that it must be a local cell, or another unibomber. Which one of them is the bigger moron?

[Threadkiller]

I must be in porch's narcisolator.

[Rob Crawford]

White House released picture of Obama receiving the news. looks like he's ordering pizza.

[Porchlight]

Sorry TK, I'm at work and can't keep up with the links...

[AliceH]

Any one blame the IRA yet?

[sailor]

JIB, I'm with you about loving the city of Boston and walking around it. Would add to your list New Orleans, but I definitely love Charleston and San Francisco. What sadness for the city of Boston. All of our daughters have run in marathons, but just Atlanta, New York and Chicago. How tragic for the people watching the marathon--which I have done many times.

[Porchlight]

White House released picture of Obama receiving the news.

That's just gross, all by itself. It'd be funny if it weren't so terrifying to have Dear Leader in charge.

[Danube of Thought on iPad]

Let us hope that Jeff Greenfield is appropriately skewered for that speculation.

[Skoot]

My thoughts and prayers go out to all the injured and their families.

[Janet]

There really needs to be some questions about who is coming into our country "legally"....special programs & stuff.

[sailor]

DoT, He won't be.

[Threadkiller]

He was ready for that 3:00 PM call?

[Dave (in MA)]

Bruins/Ottawa game postponed.

[Old Lurker]

Also Sean Hannity is not calming the waters any, either.

They are ALL jerks.

[NK]

First reports... always very suspect. Wait and see... let the Media embarass themselves. Skoot-- trained eye you have --reports of trauma injuries AND burns. The IED learning curve 2003-2007 was very steep in Iraq... but the US military developed an extraordinary amount anti-IED protocols, but also forensic techniques to evaluate bombs, how they were made and detonated, to trace them back to bombers. I assume those methods have been transfered to DHS,FBI and local law enforcement.

[Rob Crawford]

There really needs to be some questions about who is coming into our country "legally"....special programs & stuff.

You mean like the "visa express" program Clinton put in place that let the 9/11 murderers in just on the authority of their travel agents?

[NK]

Prayers for the wounded, God's grace for the dead.