Illegal Aspirants Caught Or Deterred

The new immigration plan is aired. In what looks like the softest number since Obama's stimulators talked up "Jobs created or saved", we see that progress towards border security will be:

based on calculations of what percentage of illegal crossers were caught or turned back without crossing.

Turned back without crossing? What, will they ask them to fill out a card ands drop it on their side of the fence? Or count heat signatures from high tech drone imagery of people pausing at the border and then retracing their steps back south?

Or will any Democrats administering this program simply assume that all of Mexico was deterred, thereby assuring that the program is scored as successfully deterring millions and millions of illegal aspirants.

Please.

Comments

[bgates]

The good news is that in all of America, there are fewer than 300 Republicans stupid enough to fall for this plan.

The bad news is that they're all in Congress.

[Ann]

We are having senior shootout with water guns here and I just caught a naked boy in the bush. First?

[Clarice]

bgates--you did it again. If I am involuntarily committed on the basis of sitting in my office laughing in front of the monitor--you will bear he guilt.

[centralcal]

LOL, bgates (although, maybe I should cry instead)

Uh, Ann - why was he naked? Or better left unasked?

[narciso]

You have to have Pythonesque take on things central, and Orlando seems to be a font of inspiration, South Florida, is the barrel.

[hit and run]

"There are those who said that if we moved forward with immigration reform before securing the southern border, there would be 86 million undocumented persons crossing the border each year.

"However, the Secretary of Homeland Security has informed me that in the past 12 months there have only been 13 million crossings. So we're talking about 15% of attempted crossers being successful. Or put another way, the border turned back 83 million attempted crossers.

"So let me be clear, as President I am calling on people of good faith from both parties to move forward with a path to citizenship for those who have crossed the border successfully so we can make all those future Democratic voters into present Democratic voters."

[hit and run]

73 million

[MarkO]

Ann, if you are first, I want to see who calls second.

[Walter]

Ann, a bush he brought with him or one belonging to a neighbor?

[MarkO]

Ann, maybe you meant you were first to post, not first for the naked boy. Oh, my.

[narciso]

'pull my finger, no seriously'

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/04/10/did_we_get_the_muslim_brotherhood_wrong

[Rick Ballard]

"73 million"

Hit,

A slight exaggeration, to be sure but did you know the BLS and CBO projections are all based upon Census population projections which are proving to be rather hysterically wrong? The 2004 labor force projection for 2012 was 162 million, last week's actual was 154.5 million and the current "new, improved" projection for 2020 is 164 million and it's based upon a Census net immigration level of 1.5 million per year while the actual NPR number is still running at 1.03 million. Census also projected births in 2010-11 to total 8.4 million, actual came in at 7.95 million.

We're going to be very lucky to break above 0.000% economic growth through 2020 and I won't be at all surprised if this Immigration Bill cranks the door wide open in an attempt to save a lot of pols sorry asses.

[Rick Ballard]

"73 million"

Hit,

A slight exaggeration, to be sure but did you know the BLS and CBO projections are all based upon Census population projections which are proving to be rather hysterically wrong? The 2004 labor force projection for 2012 was 162 million, last week's actual was 154.5 million and the current "new, improved" projection for 2020 is 164 million and it's based upon a Census net immigration level of 1.5 million per year while the actual NPR number is still running at 1.03 million. Census also projected births in 2010-11 to total 8.4 million, actual came in at 7.95 million.

We're going to be very lucky to break above 0.000% economic growth through 2020 and I won't be at all surprised if this Immigration Bill cranks the door wide open in an attempt to save a lot of pols sorry asses.

[daddy]

Cool.

In the Mariner's-Houston Game a fan just caught a foul fly ball in his full plastic beer cup, and then he immediately downed the beer with the ball still in the cup, the beer pouring down his shirtfront and his buddies cheering him on. Hope that makes the highlight reels for Play Of The Day.

[daddy]

Speaking of effective gun control...

20,000 U.S. M-16s stolen from unguarded warehouse in Kuwait

[Regret]

Typical liberal "you get an "A" for effort" BS. Goes hand in hand with trophies for participation for our kids. In the real world, results matter.

[James D.]

Narciso, I read that FP article you linked. It really does illustrate why PhD stands for "piled higher and deeper"

[Extraneus]

And here's how the AP plays it:

Senate immigration plan would stiffen border security, increase surveillance

[narciso]

Yes, they anticipated this;

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/04/the_emir_of_al_qaeda.php

[narciso]

'It's a great deal, dnon't let me alter the terms;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/11/republicans-say-senate-leaders-not-giving-enough-time-to-debate-immigration/

[pagar]

Illegal?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/irs-we-dont-need-a-warrant-to-read-your-emails/

UPDATE: IRS Conducting Audits Based on FACEBOOK and TWITTER Info

[Brian]

I had thought that Marco Rubio was going to be a pacemaker in the U. S. Senate.

But he is lagging well behind the dynamic duo of Jeff Sessions and Mike Lee, and even Ted Cruz, also. He better get on the ball, or he will be a one-term Senator.

[NK]

Is anyone surprised that social media info is being used to audit TPs? I think people doing anything on SM, other than discussing sports, are nutz.

[Janet]

Well, NK...should we all shut up & hide?

Maybe millions more need to get on social media & push back. Have 10, 100, 1000 different accounts & push the conservative agenda. Loud & proud.

[NK]

Janet -- People should express themselves in any forum they want, and never shut up-- I know I don't. The point I was making was that when you use SM-- NOTHING is private. It goes out into the air-- and it's there forever. So if people want to air their own financial situation on SM-- be my guest-- but don't be shocked when marketing firms, businesses, charities, and the Gumnint, all know about it.

[hit and run]

Rick:
CBO projections are all based upon Census population projections which are proving to be rather hysterically wrong

Indeed. And of course the CBO is fully capable, perfectly willing, and possesses a near spotless record of making projections on all sorts of things in just the same manner and in the same and direction -- always in the direction of "you ain't seen nothing yet, the best is yet to come, what light through yonder window breaks, it is the east and prosperity is the sun".

Of course reality may be pointed in an entirely different direction...

Ring around the rosy scenarios, pocket full of patsies, ashes, ashes, we all fall down.

[Rob Crawford]

UPDATE: IRS Conducting Audits Based on FACEBOOK and TWITTER Info

New York is pawing through prescription information to find people with prescriptions for anti-anxiety medication in order to confiscate their firearms.

The leeches in the government have apparently decided it's time to go full-bore tyrant.

[matt]

The Leftist Media Machine led by the WaPo is hailing David Corn as the greatest investigative journalist since Woodward.

These people disgust me.

[James D.]

To add to Rob's post, here's more fun from the IRS:

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/292989-irs-claims-it-can-read-emails-without-a-warrant

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has claimed that agents do not need warrants to read people's emails, text messages and other private electronic communications, according to internal agency documents.

In a 2009 handbook, the IRS said the Fourth Amendment does not protect emails because Internet users "do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in such communications." A 2010 presentation by the IRS Office of General Counsel reiterated the policy.

Under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) of 1986, government officials only need a subpoena, issued without a judge's approval, to read emails that have been opened or that are more than 180 days old.

Yeah, I'd call that "full-bore tyrant."

[NK]

Chicagoland-- from Drudge (is everyone in Obummer's circle a felon?... why yes.. yes they are): http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-daughter-of-former-obama-pastor-rev-jeremiah-wright-indicted-20130410,0,322658.story

[Janet]

Let's bug some WaPo & ABC staff meetings & get some "audio gold" ourselves. They seem cool with the whole idea.

[Clarice]

Good idea, Janet. Let's pose as visiting girl scouts.

[James D.]

By the way, Rob, it's not just New York...

http://www.redstate.com/dloesch/2013/04/10/missouri-secretly-shares-entire-ccw-list-with-feds-against-state-law/

The Missouri State Highway Patrol has twice turned over the entire list of Missouri concealed weapon permit holders to federal authorities, most recently in January, Sen. Kurt Schaefer said Wednesday.

Questioning in the Senate Appropriations Committee revealed that on two occasions, in November 2011 and again in January, the patrol asked for and received the full list from the state Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Schaefer later met in his office with Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the patrol.

After the meeting, he said Replogle had given him sketchy details about turning over the list, enough to raise many more questions. Testimony from Department of Revenue officials revealed that the list of 185,000 names had been put online in one instance and given to the patrol on a disc in January.

at the end of the article, we get the reason (same as in NY):

“Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” Schaefer said. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.”

So if you ever took prozac, or if you ever visited a therapist because you were having a hard time coping with some event in your life and felt depressed or lost, you should lose your right to defend yourself. Got it.

[AliceH]

That MO CCW/DHS/DOR story is confusing and contradictory in the details, but no question about the illegality of distribution of private information to those who have no right to it. I expect as more details emerge through subpoenas and what-not, the picture will be less splotchy.

What I find most instructive, though, is that a key reason there is a story in the first place is because one guy - ONE - refused to just passively allow a driver's license office to scan his newly-obtained CCW permit and other personal info into their (newly installed/funded by DHS) database. The License office refused to complete the CCW process if he didn't let them scan his info. He contacted officials (sheriff? State rep? Not sure) and a lawyer, and a lawsuit was filed and a judge confirmed it had merit to proceed. (Again - stories on this, so far as I've found, are all poorly written so it's hard to build a sequential timeline of who-did-what). That led to discoveries of the illegal procedure being formally contained in training materials, and so on.

Shorter: this story is messy, but it's got legs, and it's due to one guy standing up to say "no".

Pretty inspiring.

[NK]

"Let's bug some WaPo & ABC staff meetings & get some "audio gold" ourselves."

I thought that was done when Ezra klein's JournoList crapped leaked out?

[jimmyk]

Let's bug some WaPo & ABC staff meetings & get some "audio gold" ourselves. They seem cool with the whole idea.

It won't matter, as the left has a permanent "get out of jail free" card on bias and inappropriate comments. The whole journolister thing was ignored. You don't even need to go undercover to hear all the outrageous things Chris Matthews says.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Should we be worried about Ann? :)

[hit and run]

Or whoever it is she's captured?

[Ann]

Sorry, I posted about a naked boy and ran off, but life has been really boring lately!

Kidding..kinda. :) Actually, our high school seniors have an end of year ritual, called senior shoot-out. It is a last man standing game of water gun ambush. The game lasts until prom and is especially cruel. There is a rule book, a map of safe zones, a $20 fee (winner gets pot), a judge, yada yada yada.

Anyways, one rule states that you cannot get out, if you are naked. :) Guess what.. I found, a naked one, in our bushes last night.
Thank goodness, when he stood up, he had shorts on.

It sure has been a squirrelly spring here in Ahia.

The End

[daddy]

Is anyone surprised that social media info is being used to audit TPs?

I'm not. And as we continue in this headlong madness to register guns, I foresee the day when College Administrators will be examining the list of registered gun owners in order to deny the children of those gun owners admission to their colleges. Just like with what just happened with the Concealed Carry list in Missouri, that "secure" data will be "leaked" to whoever the hell on the Left wants it in order to punish 2nd Amendment supporters thru their children.

[Ann]

HI, Daddy! Funny, we posted about guns at the same time.

I bet naked boys with water-guns get in!

[daddy]

Hi Ann,

Please call me when you find naked gals hiding in your bushes:)

[hit and run]

Ann:
There is a rule book, a map of safe zones, a $20 fee (winner gets pot)

Dude, how many people play? That could be a lot of pot, man.

[Ann]

And here, I thought the squirrelly spring comment, would bring it. :)

[Manuel Transmission]

Looks like I will be swinging through Cowlumbus this weekend, although I may not get up the Tangy past the outerbelt. Never expected to need to be on the lookout for nekkid kids, though.