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Tell Guantanamo Hunger Strikers: Stop Torturing President Obama

Dear Hunger Strikers,

We understand that indefinite detention is not a picnic and that many of you are probably homesick. But the hunger strike is doing nothing to hurt the Congressional Republicans, who are actually the ones responsible for your imprisonment. Meanwhile, the man who has pledged repeatedly to free you is said to be suffering from deep anguish. Obama has your back, but do you have his? Please call off this ill-advised hunger strike.

P.S. We’re serious and if you continue to push Obama, we will call you terrorists and urge the president to throw the book at you.

And if we get really angry, we will threaten to have them turned loose so we can hunt  them down with drones.

Comments

[Captain Hate]

Our special needs Preznit and his dumbass enablers.

[lyle]

Wait. That's NOT parody?? Did you read the names of the petitioners? The president of the USA has the back of terrorists?

[Captain Hate]

O/T Somebody needs to tell this modern day Manson family the rule of holes: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/psu/report-paterno-family-to-announce-lawsuit-against-ncaa-689519/

[narciso]

Lemmings are more selfaware, I had that Hoft link about the group involved in the attack on the American school in Tunis, no jail time, and they are tied to a number of those innocent shepherds.

[lyle]

I really encourage everyone to click through and sign onto this vital cause. Signature #81 may or may not be someone I know.

I may have to go back and check the sigs again...

[Captain Hate]

How will Repubs ever survive losing the likes of Linc Chafee?

[narciso]

I know that was a shocker, Captain, per Steyn, Politico put it in their breaking news !!!

[daddy]

Speaking of lemmings...

Remember that stupid kid Sean Penn made a movie about, who hiked out to an abandoned school bus in the Alaskan outback and then died from either eating poison berries or starvation?

Well visiting the school bus has now become a sort of Cult Pilgrimage Shrine, and every few months we wind up sending out helicopters to rescue out of state pilgrims. This week we rescued German Lemmings.

[Captain Hate]

Yes narc, I can't wait for the "I didn't leave the party; it was those insane tea-baggers" from somebody who defined conservatism like Linc. Eeyores everywhere huddling in fear.

[Captain Hate]

Oops, in my continuing high regard for Linc and his unwavering commitment to principles, I somehow lost track of the fact that he was an independent. Oh the humanity.

Per Tammy Bruce the JEF is fundraising in Shitcargo this afternoon. I'm pretty sure that's mentioned in the Constitution as an essential role of the President if you look close enough.

[Frau Glücklichkeit]

CH - in the Declaration: pursuit of (JEF's) happiness

[narciso]

'What is it, that makes a man, turn neutral'

[narciso]

It's like Glen Garry Glen Ross;

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-rise-al-qaida-saharan-terrorist

[Mike Giles]

Geeze, Obama definitely needs smarter advisors - like me. This is the way you work it. you release those Gitmo types to where ever, and you have the drones waiting when they get there. With any luck, they'll never get off the runway. And you'll also get a few of their supporters waiting to welcome them back. Two birds, one stone.

[narciso]

It's like the idiots on the office tower in ID 4, ain't it.

[NK]

See BBG link below: The nightmare begins—Uncle Sam’s interest bill 0n the $17T federal debt that our elected maniacs have racked up is about to explode. The Fed starts to talk about stop buying T-Bonds and the yields spike. What happens when the Fed as to stop buying, what will investors demand as the yield? I just threw up a bit in my mouth.

The Bond vultures are descending to lay waste on the USA thanks to Obama and the Dems—and BenB who enabled the federal debt orgy for 5 years.

God… what a clusterf#$&k.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-29/treasuries-fall-as-bonds-worldwide-drop-most-in-almost-a-decade.html

[narciso]

Heck of a job,

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/29/world/middleeast/saeed-jalili-emerges-as-establishment-favorite-in-irans-presidential-race.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

[NK]

So I read the link, the terms of posting a petition on the site, and the signatures on the 'petition'. Who says rightwingers don't have a sense of humor.

[NK]

Actually-- I think the Council of Guardians (wasn't that the group on planet Krypton?) sellecting Jalili-- will lead to clarity, when the Islamic Republic drops a nuke on Mecca and Medina-- as pay back for Imam Ali and all that.

[lyle]

Hah! Click on the link now and this is what you get:

Petition Not Available

The content of this petition is under review.

Go to MoveOn Petitions Home

[Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)]

Yeah, Glenn Garry Glen Ross.

"Always be closing......" Gitmo.

The Big Club of WH occupiers are in unison on the issue.

As George Carlin said ".....it's a Club, and you ain't in it".

[Threadkiller]

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http://www.imjinscout.com/2ID_Patch.html

Whe do they get there letter from congress?

[Threadkiller]

When...

...their...

Etc..

[Jack is Back (Ready to Sue TypePad if Only I could Find a Lawyer Here)]

About time our side plays some parody and tricks on the asshats on the other side. Well done young man or young lady or old fart or old fartee.

[Jack is Back (Ready to Sue TypePad if Only I could Find a Lawyer Here)]

I am going to be asking for some help after dinner. So, as Paul Harvey would say: Stand By, for The News!

[pagar]

All you need to know!

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/05/29/did-the-palestinians-ask-obama-to-target-pro-israeli-501c3s/

"Given our evolving knowledge of how the IRS operated under Obama, however, it seems possible the Palestinians followed through on Shtayyed’s other suggestion, asking the administration to investigate pro-Israeli groups."

[matt]

How's Khalid Sheikh Mohammed doing these days? We really should check in on him. Is he one of the fasters?

When does the trial start for real? What to do with him? Ship him to Yemen? I'm sure the Yemeni government will love that. Pakistan? Saudi Arabia?

I am supremely confident that Eric Holder is on top of the situation and has his very best men on the case. Or is it Chuck Hagel? Or John F'in Kerry? It's so hard to keep up and maybe they had brain clouds and forgot.

The one guy we know is not on the case is Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. He'll catch it in the paper the same time as us, I'm sure.

[Extraneus]

NYT boycotting Holder's tete a tate with the media.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/29/too-dumb-to-check-holders-huddle-with-media-on-press-freedoms-will-be-off-the-record/

[Jack is Back (Ready to Sue TypePad if Only I could Find a Lawyer Here)]

Have you seen this:

From a retired Navy Captain who lives in Hawaii: CBA (Cross Border Authority)

The Benghazi debacle boils down to a single key factor - the granting or withholding of "cross-border authority." This opinion is informed by my experience as a Navy SEAL officer who took a NavSpecWar Detachment to Beirut.

Once the alarm is sent - in this case, from the consulate in Benghazi - dozens of HQs are notified and are in the planning loop in real time, including AFRICOM and EURCOM, both located in Germany. Without waiting for specific orders from Washington, they begin planning and executing rescue operations, including moving personnel, ships, and aircraft forward toward the location of the crisis. However, there is one thing they can't do without explicit orders from the president: cross an international border on a hostile mission.

That is the clear "red line" in this type of a crisis situation. No administration wants to stumble into a war because a jet jockey in hot pursuit (or a mixed-up SEAL squad in a rubber boat) strays into hostile territory. Because of this, only the president can give the order for our military to cross a nation's border without that nation's permission. For the Osama bin Laden mission, President Obama granted CBA for our forces to enter Pakistani airspace.

On the other side of the CBA coin: in order to prevent a military rescue in Benghazi, all the President of the United States "(POTUS)" has to do is not grant cross-border authority. If he does not, the entire rescue mission (already in progress) must stop in its tracks. Ships can loiter on station, but airplanes fall out of the sky, so they must be redirected to an air base (Sigonella, in Sicily) to await the POTUS decision on granting CBA. If the decision to grant CBA never comes, the besieged diplomatic outpost in Benghazi can rely only on assets already "in country" in Libya - such as the Tripoli quick reaction force and the Predator drones. These assets can be put into action on the independent authority of the acting ambassador or CIA station chief in Tripoli. They are already "in country," so CBA rules do not apply to them.

How might this process have played out in the White House? If, at the 5:00 p.m. Oval Office meeting with Defense Secretary Panetta and Vice President Biden, President Obama said about Benghazi: "I think we should not go the military action route," meaning that no CBA will be granted, then that is it. Case closed.

Another possibility is that the president might have said: "We should do what we can to help them . but no military intervention from outside of Libya." Those words then constitute "standing orders" all the way down the chain of command, via Panetta and General Dempsey to General Ham and the subordinate commanders who are already gearing up to rescue the besieged outpost. When that meeting took place, it may have seemed as if the consulate attack was over, so President Obama might have thought the situation would stabilize on its own from that point forward. If he then goes upstairs to the family quarters, or otherwise makes himself "unavailable," then his last standing orders will continue to stand until he changes them, even if he goes to sleep until the morning of September 12.

Nobody in the chain of command below President Obama can countermand his "standing orders" not to send outside military forces into Libyan air space. Nobody. Not Leon Panetta, not Hillary Clinton, not General Dempsey, and not General Ham in Stuttgart, Germany, who is in charge of the forces staging in Sigonella.

Perhaps the president left "no outside military intervention, no cross-border authority" standing orders, and then made himself scarce to those below him seeking further guidance, clarification, or modified orders. Or perhaps he was in the Situation Room watching the Predator videos in live time for all seven hours. We don't yet know where the president was hour by hour.

But this is 100 percent sure: Panetta and Dempsey would have executed a rescue mission order if the president had given those orders. And like the former SEALs in Benghazi, General Ham and all of the troops under him would have been straining forward in their harnesses, ready to go into battle to save American lives.

The execute orders would be given verbally to General Ham at AFRICOM in Stuttgart, but they would immediately be backed up in official message traffic for the official record. That is why cross-border authority is the King Arthur's Sword for understanding Benghazi. The POTUS and only the POTUS can pull out that sword.

We can be 100% certain that cross-border authority was never given. How do I know this? Because if CBA was granted and the rescue mission execute orders were handed down, irrefutable records exist today in at least a dozen involved component commands, and probably many more. No general or admiral will risk being hung out to dry for undertaking a mission-gone-wrong that the POTUS later disavows ordering, and instead blames on "loose cannons" or "rogue officers" exceeding their authority. No general or admiral will order U.S. armed forces to cross an international border on a hostile mission unless and until he is certain that the National Command Authority, in the person of the POTUS and his chain of command, has clearly and explicitly given that order: verbally at the outset, but thereafter in written orders and official messages. If they exist, they could be produced today.

When it comes to granting cross-border authority, there are no presidential mumblings or musings to paraphrase or decipher. If you hear confusion over parsed statements given as an excuse for Benghazi, then you are hearing lies. I am sure that hundreds of active-duty military officers know all about the Benghazi execute orders (or the lack thereof), and I am impatiently waiting for one of them to come forward to risk his career and pension as a whistleblower.

Leon Panetta is falling on his sword for President Obama with his absurd-on-its-face, "the U.S. military doesn't do risky things"-defense of his shameful no-rescue policy. Panetta is utterly destroying his reputation.

General Dempsey joins Panetta on the same sword with his tacit agreement by silence. But why? How far does loyalty extend when it comes to covering up gross dereliction of duty by the president?

General Petraeus, however, has indirectly blown the whistle. He was probably "used" in some way early in the cover-up with the purported CIA intel link to the Mohammed video, and now he feels burned. So he conclusively said via his public affairs officer that the stand-down order did not come from the CIA. Well - what outranks the CIA? Only the national security team at the White House. That means President Obama, and nobody else. Petraeus is naming Obama without naming him. If that is not quite as courageous as blowing a whistle, it is far better than the disgraceful behavior of Panetta and Dempsey.

We do not know the facts for certain, but we do know that the rescue mission stand-down issue revolves around the granting or withholding of cross-border authority, which belongs only to President Obama. More than one hundred gung-ho Force Recon Marines were waiting on the tarmac in Sigonella, just two hours away for the launch order that never came.

[Extraneus]

Gibson CEO revives complaints over government raids in wake of IRS scandal

The CEO of Gibson Guitars is reviving a claim that his company was unfairly targeted by the government, on the heels of the scandal over the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups.

Gibson boss Henry Juszkiewicz, who has donated in the past to Republicans, told Fox News on Wednesday he doesn't know whether a series of raids on his company were tied at all to his political leanings. But he said "I clearly believe that someone targeted our company inappropriately."

[Jack is Back (Ready to Sue TypePad if Only I could Find a Lawyer Here)]

I want Henry to subpoena these people to testify

[Danube at IMac]

But Harry didn't know:

Former political power broker Harvey Whittemore sat still, staring straight ahead, as the court clerk read the verdicts on the three federal felony charges: Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.

They said they were deadlocked on the fourth charge – that Whittemore lied to the FBI -- and the judge sent them back to try harder. The six-man, six-woman jury went back to the jury room at 11:47 a.m. and ordered lunch at 12:20 p.m.

They found Whittemore, 59, guilty of violating federal campaign finance laws by making excessive campaign contributions in 2007 and guilty of using his family and employees as conduits to make contributions to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

They also said Whittemore was guilty of causing Reid’s campaign committee to file a false report with the Federal Election Commission.

[centralcal]

Just coming across Twitter:

Breaking: NPR reports former #doj official Jim Comey in line to be next #Fbi director, http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/29/187128476/obama-to-name-former-justice-official-as-fbi-chief?live=1 …

[Extraneus]

Defense attorneys argued Whittemore broke no laws by giving $5,000 checks as gifts to family members and as gifts or bonuses to 29 employees and their spouses, who then each wrote checks for the maximum allowable $4,600 to the Senate majority leader's campaign fund, Friends of Harry Reid.

[Extraneus]

Students at the University of Colorado – Boulder (UCB) signed an enormous thank you card to the Internal Revenue Service for its apparent harassment of conservative groups during the lead-up to President Obama’s reelection.

In the viral video, posted on YouTube Tuesday, conservative pundit Caleb Bonham asked students to sign the large card that read “Thank you IRS! Tea Party Deserves it!”

“I’m asking people if they want to sign my board thanking the IRS for targeting conservative tea party and religious organizations,” Bonham explained in the video.

Several students enthusiastically added signatures and personal messages.

“Yes, totally,” responded one student. “I read about that. I thought it was pretty funny that the IRS was doing the right thing but the wrong thing at the same time.”

“I love discrimination,” chimed in another student.

[Jane -]

And Harry gets off scott free.

What did Whittemore get in exchange?

[Extraneus]

Accused Fort Hood gunman plans to represent self at trial

Hasan has indicated a willingness to plead guilty to the charges if prosecutors drop the death penalty. Under military law, he cannot plead guilty to a death penalty case.

So his fired lawyers delayed the trial this long?

[henry]

Jane, from Wiki:

Whittemore's close relationship with Senator Harry Reid came under scrutiny because of perceived legislative and political pressure favors allowing Coyote Springs to overcome regulatory problems.

Coyote Springs was Whittemore's company, he was finagling a $30 billion Golf Course and residential development somewhere in the desert.

[henry]

Ah, further on in the wiki

The desert land included a sanctuary for the desert tortoise, an endangered species, and some of the adjacent land was designated a wilderness study area. A federal easement for utilities was also present, and the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) would not allow building due to the presence of stream beds in the area.

Pay Harry & the laws for the rest of us don't apply.

[rse]

Having read too many of the books of well connected people on their plans for our new world and economy etc, they constently take time to rage about the Tea Party out of context. In disproportionate language.

I think both parties at a certain level were cruising to this govt leads everything vision globally. Then the Tea Party got in the way with that mammoth rally and vital remembrances of what the Constitution actually said.

Just an aside but UNESCO is planning its vision around the global complaince and PS with media.

Sure explains a lot.

[narciso]

Comey, Schumer's creature, borrowing the locution from No WAy Out, who slew the fearsome Martha Stewart dragon, the one who had the vapors when Gonzalez tried to renew the FISA program, who gave us Fitz, a perfect apparatchik.

[narciso]

As for KSM, I've always found him the more interesting figure, ala Hannibal Lecter, more then Bin Laden, He was the operational planner,
who constructed how to pull off 9/11, of course
he was educated here, at Jesse Jackson's alma mater. His capture in 2003, was a pivotal step,
others tried to fill the gap, Setmarian for Europe, Zarquawi in the greater middle east.

[Jack is Back (Ready to Sue TypePad if Only I could Find a Lawyer Here)]

Comey, is he still available. I thought he was a anesteiologist's assistant. Maybe I am wrong.

[maryrose]

Comey at FBI? What the matter with Mueller?

[Janet]

Accused Fort Hood gunman plans to represent self at trial

Just like the DC sniper...whenever I see a story about Hasan I think, isn't he dead yet.

[maryrose]

You know what they say about the accused who represents himself as a lawyer. He has a fool for a client. Just lock him up and throw away the key.
Why are we force feeding terrorists in Gitmo. If they want to die,let them.

[narciso]

Not not exactly,

http://illinoispaytoplay.com/tag/covington-burling/

unless that is what you call anethesthesiolists
now adays.

[centralcal]

Mueller has announced he is leaving in the fall, I believe, maryrose.

Har-dee-har-har: Looks like after NYT said no to off the record meeting with Holder, others are following suit - AP, nope; HuffPo, no way. Only yes I've seen so far is Washington Post! (of course)

Meanwhile DNC hack Woodhouse threatened/insulted media saying no to meeting, and now has been hammered by said media (Tapper, Fournier, to name a few).

[Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)]

Tempests in Teapots....

Better think of Japan as the canary in the coalmine wrt Economics 101.

You have been notified.

[jimmyk]

Yahoo Sports tries to give Barry a boost with a fawning piece about Barry as a child with a baseball bat, and the comments are, well, priceless.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/five-questions-picture-young-barack-obama-swinging-baseball-184817814.html

Such as:

"Justice Dept, IRS, Bengazi. Three strikes you're out !!!!!!!!!!!"

And one for TK:

"Clearly that's Kenyan soil he's standing on."

[Schumer is a snake.]

Comey is a viper.
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[Jane -]

Pay Harry & the laws for the rest of us don't apply.

I'm shocked!

[narciso]

So the Washington Post has become 'Mikey' that would be embarassing if they had any shame,

[MarkO]

"it's extra special."

Bless his little heart.

[[email protected]]

Mueller has been in the job for 10 years or so. I think the appointment for FBI director is 10 years although not sure what the max is.

cc-

they'll kiss and make up.

[[email protected]]

Better think of Japan as the canary in the coalmine wrt Economics 101.

What is that supposed to mean?

[narciso]

Well almost 12, he replaced Freeh, right before September 11th.

[[email protected]]

good thing I've got the night off and beer.

[narciso]

Rest assured he doesn't even know, yes I know it's temporary, like Ike with Tina Turner, a recent example also comes to mind.

[[email protected]]

but mostly the beer...quiet tonight.

[[email protected]]

in re: Holder's "off the record" event, the libs in media will come around once they start looking at the consequences.

[Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)]

"What is that supposed to mean?"

Hmm, well I'm not sure a bone-head course in Econ 101 is gong to be helpful if you haven't been keeping up a little.

[henry]

Rich, put the beer to good use: US vs Belgium at 8:00 (played in Cleveland of all places).

[Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)]

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/05/28/israel_threatens_to_strike_russias_shipments_of_missiles_to_syria.html

Here's another Cuban missile kerfluffle. If you don't know what the Cuban missile crisis was; fergittaboudit.

[narciso]

Not surprised, it's Martin Baron, he embarassed himself down here, covering the Elian rendition, before moving to Boston

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/29/wapo-editor-set-to-cave-on-holders-demand-for-off-the-record-meeting-on-leak-investigations/

[Janet]

jimmyk's baseball link is great for the comments ...they are brutal.

[PaulV]

Someone is in a heap of trouble

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/29/3422519/lawyer-zimmerman-prosecutor-withheld.html

[Jane -]

We will see if it is a "heap of trouble". It should be. But I'll believe it when I see it.

[narciso]

That's Vizzineaque;

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=WXTSUGfB

[daddy]

Up here, because prospects for running a candidate against Dem Senator Begich in 2014 are currently so dismal, a local Radio Talk Show Host has said he is contemplating starting a campaign to draft our lone Congressman, Don Young, and have him beat Begich.

It might work! Republican Don Young took Begich's dead father's seat back in '73 and has been there ever since, and still easily wins elections despite going around saying stuff like "Some of my best friends are wetbacks."

Go Don!

[[email protected]]

henry-

looking for the match online, but might need a live blog. don't think I'll go driving to find a tv this evening.

[narciso]

This has been a Kangaroo court, worthy of Vyshinsky, every single piece of evidence has either been 'manufactured' or suppressed.

[henry]

Rich, I don't have cable either... check ESPN Soccer for gamecast etc.

[narciso]

Let me try that again;

http://bostinno.streetwise.co/2013/05/29/live-stream-united-states-v-belgium-watch-england-vs-ireland-international-friendly-live-online-video/

[Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)]

Man. This software really eats posts. I hear many complaints, but only experience mildly. It kinda deflates the urge to repost.

[Captain Hate]

jimmyk's baseball link is great for the comments ...they are brutal.

When you've lost the yahoo hive that is as close as you can get to being *officially* unkewel. They are idiots but they're trendy idiots.

[henry]

Rich, here is the game cast & live comments. You need a cable subscription to view the game (stupid ESPN).

[daddy]

Legal guys:

Concerning the Judge shopping in the Rosen/HolderGate affair.

Do we know who were the 1st 2 Judges who refused to sign off on the affidavit to wiretap co-conspirator Rosen? And was Judge Lamberth the Judge that ultimately did sign off on it?

Whoever they are, I would love to know if we will ever get a chance to ask them why they did or did not sign off on the thing. Will we ever find that out, or is that not something that we ever get to find out about in our Legal system?

Up here it is a blistering 73 degrees currently, but supposed to go up to 80. Took the pups up on the lower Flattop Ice Fields earlier today to cool off and play catch, and that's where we're heading back to shortly.

[narciso]

Here you go;

http://www.volokh.com/2013/05/28/notice-for-e-mail-warrants-and-the-james-rosen-case/

[Neo]

MSNBC's viewership drops 20% year over year.

The real problem for MSNBC is that the Republicans have managed not to do their usual quota of "stupid things".

The "Birther" thing is pretty much dead.

There is no current campaign (except from the White House).

Since the sequestration, there really has been no "budget drama".

Except for immigration, the administration has no legislative program outside of the budget (which was two months late and stillborn).

We've had a coolest Spring in 60 years and Spain is now predicting the coldest Summer in 200 years, so the whole Climate Change schtick isn't going anywhere.

Showing Obama on the links has gotten old (so expect him to do it more).

[daddy]

Thanks narciso:

The revelation that two courts denied the secret subpoena before Lamberth finally agreed will damage the narrative that there was nothing extraordinary or out-of-bounds about Holder’s attempt to delve into the private communications of Rosen and his employer.

So Magistrate Judges Kay and Facciola said "No", District Judge Royce Lamberth said "Yes."

The Volokh column writer, Orin Kerr, thinks there's no "there", there.

[daddy]

How hot is it you ask?

It's so hot that Wooly Mammoth blood is flowing!

[narciso]

I thought that was a bypass, but you still have to go through ESPN

[henry]

US just tied it 1-1! I now understand JiB's post dinner quandary.;)

[MarkO]

daddy, I've been tweeting about this "shopping." This is what I understand.

The first Magistrate agreed to the subpoena but wanted the DOJ to give notice. The DOJ balked, but did not appeal to the District Judge. At that point, they found a second Magistrate and tried to get him to sign off without notice. The DOJ did not go back to the first Magistrate but did what I consider to be improper and obviously deceptive, they found a second Magistrate. I would be interested to learn if they gave that Magistrate notice that there had already been a determination of the issue. I doubt they did.

Finally, they went to the District Judge who agreed there should be no notice. That decision was, in fact, the correct legal decision. The DOJ went to great trouble to phony up the affidavit, calling Rosen a felon and a flight risk, so that under the law they would not have to give notice.

They shopped two Magistrates, but all the judges agreed to issue the subpoena. It is misleading to say that two turned the DOJ down.

[daddy]

Thank you MarkO.

That is understandable by me so you obviously explained it well:) Many thanks.

So legally correct, but with a legitimate whiff of deception.

[narciso]

rse's reference to UNESCO reminded me of this;

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=979&dat=19841114&id=vvAkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=8w8GAAAAIBAJ&pg=2902,1229040

[narciso]

Not kidding there, what would it take for Kerr to be suspicious;

http://www.volokh.com/2013/05/29/did-eric-holder-lie-to-congress/#disqus_thread

[pagar]

If you think UNESCO is bad.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/report-china-steals-300-billion-of-american-ideas-every-year-costing-us-economy-2-1-million-jobs-video/

Meanwhile China just bought Smithfield Foods.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/29/news/companies/smithfield-foods/?iid=HP_LN&hpt=us_bn5

[MarkO]

"So legally correct."

daddy, I would not go that far, in part because the affidavit was, in my view, fraudulent on its face. Holder's perjury excuse is that the DOJ never intended to prosecute Rosen. That being the case, he could not possibly be a "flight risk." The other allegations made by the FBI agent are tenuous. Were I the Federal Judge who issued this subpoena, I would be hauling them in for a serious hearing on contempt charges.

[Neo]

I was watching the promo for the new “Superman” movie and had the thought that it would be a most interesting world where there was an unstoppable force that could provide “truth, justices and the American way”.

Wow, just wow

[gmax]

Sure looks like to me that Holder ultimately has to admit either: he lied to the judge to get the warrant, or he lied to Congress. Cant be both, and the good news is both are crimes. When a flaming lib like Turley says fire him, its not something that can be explained away...

[narciso]

Can some one explain this, Jordan's south is Arabia, not Syria;

@mrossletters As we speak Jordan's south is raging w/gun battles, Regime Vs.Locals, King might fall B4 Assad

[Porchlight]

Holder's perjury excuse is that the DOJ never intended to prosecute Rosen.

Actually I think it's more tortured than that. The excuse floated by the juiceboxers is that the DOJ sought to prosecute Rosen for his procurement of Kim's info, not for his later disclosure of it. That's how Holder gets out of perjury (he mentioned only disclosure in his testimony). Yeah I know it's very lame.

Sorry don't have a link, I think it was lil Ezra or one of those clowns earlier this week.

[MarkO]

Porch, I'll go with lame.

Holder can put the lie off on the FBI agent. I think they are hurt by "flight risk." Yet, again, if Roger Clemens cannot be found guilty of perjury, no one ever will be.

[MarkO]

What's up with DOJ notice to Fox. CNN says there is proof. Of course, that proof does not include the substance of the message, which suggests it is not proof.

[Threadkiller]

"O'Mara reported on the defense team's website Wednesday that Zimmerman's defense fund had less than $5,000 left. The fund had raised almost $315,000 by January.

His attorneys are calculating that Zimmerman needs another $120,000 to put on a good defense, or even another $75,000 to give him a fighting chance."

[Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet]

I hate to bring up the specter of Scooter Libby, but if he could be found guilty of making a false statement to a federal investigator, Holder should be quaking in his boots. That he probably isn't is a testament to his reliance on the extreme double standard extant in our body politic today.

In spite of the juiceboxers' feeble parsing, the chinless wonder's statement to Congress was, by any fair, reasonable or objective interpretation, not the truth, the whole truth, or nothing but the truth.

[MarkO]

$500K for a defense?

[MarkO]

A Federal trial for perjury is different from a Congressional citation.

First of all, the Federal trial is likely to be corrupt.