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May 23, 2013

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narciso

Such a cynical exercise, demands an equally cynical response;


http://weaselzippers.us/2013/05/23/pathetically-desperate-scandal-riden-obama-spikes-bin-laden-football/

Ranger

Cross posted from the previous thread:

Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/23/18451142-holder-okd-search-warrant-for-fox-news-reporters-private-emails-official-says

I love this bit:

The disclosure of the attorney general’s role came as President Barack Obama, in a major speech on his counterterrorism policy, said Holder had agreed to review Justice Department guidelines governing investigations that involve journalists.

"I am troubled by the possibility that leak investigations may chill the investigative journalism that holds government accountable," Obama said. "Journalists should not be at legal risk for doing their jobs."

Sounds like someone at DoJ wanted to make Barry and Holder look foolish with this timing.

It looks a little like the Manderinate and the 4th Estate are fighting back against the infection from Chicago.

I'll also add that this means DoJ understood just how significant of a departure this was from existing procedure. It's possible Obama himself had to give the nod before Holder signed off. Funny how all these documents got "misfield" until after the election last November.

narciso

BARACK OBAMA: “After I took office, we stepped up the war against al Qaeda, but also sought to change its course. We relentlessly targeted al Qaeda’s leadership. We ended the war in Iraq, and brought nearly 150,000 troops home. (now AQ in Mesopotamia, is fueling the Syrian Civil War We pursued a new strategy in Afghanistan, (undercut the line commander you requested not once but twice) and increased our training of Afghan forces.(apologized to
our ally, for acts committed against our soldiers)
We unequivocally banned torture, foreclosing a path that led us to Bin Laden) affirmed our commitment to civilian courts,(was thankfully prevented from turning the KSM tribunal, into a stateside sideshow) worked to align our policies with the rule of law, and expanded our consultations with Congress. (by engaging in a military confrontation, without congressional authorization)

Extraneus

Roger Ailes' letter to Fox employees

Dear colleagues,

The recent news about the FBI’s seizure of the phone and email records of Fox News employees, including James Rosen, calls into question whether the federal government is meeting its constitutional obligation to preserve and protect a free press in the United States. We reject the government's efforts to criminalize the pursuit of investigative journalism and falsely characterize a Fox News reporter to a Federal judge as a "co-conspirator" in a crime. I know how concerned you are because so many of you have asked me: why should the government make me afraid to use a work phone or email account to gather news or even call a friend or family member?

Etc.

maryrose

narciso
All so true.
Bammy and Holder wanted to get back at FOX . That is why Rosen was targeted. Funny this didn't come up during Holder's lying testimony with Issa. Faux outrage designed to make congressmen back off was the order of the day. I believe I loathe Holder almost as much as Obama.Holder and preezy both approved this blatant abuse of power against Rosen. Is there any recourse for him? Where does he go to get his reputation back?

Jane -

Ranger,

To what end? Because they could? Holder thought they would cheer? He thought he would find something?

MaryD

maryrose, I don't think that James Rosen has to go anywhere to get his reputation back. The response of the media in general indicates that he is a respected and even liked member of the Washington press and they are furious about what was done to him.

Ranger

This is classic Chicago Way tactics. At the time, the argument from the White House was that Fox wasn't a "real" journalistic enterprise. Therefore, by targeting Fox, they weren't actually targeting journalists, just some people pretending to be journalists and hiding behind the First Amendment to "spread lies." They figured that once the rest of the press accepted that, then the White House would have a free hand to decide who were journalists and who weren't, and then use the example of Rosen to show reporters what happens to those the White House "de-certifies" as reporters.

Jane -

If anything Maryrose it has enhanced his reputation. No one thinks he did anything and everyone thinks he was a target.

Someone mentioned that a RICO charge could be brought so we could watch Holder prosecute Holder.

MarkO

Obama hates free speech.

By the time Gorelick and Clinton let bin Laden skate and Obama was forced to kill him, Osama had waned in influence, unless you think smuggling some notes from his safe house constitutes leading the Mohamatans.

Someday someone will tell us that on the night they killed bin Laden, Obama really wanted to go hide like he did during the Benghazi attack. Someone wouldn't let him.

Jane -

They figured that once the rest of the press accepted that, then the White House would have a free hand to decide who were journalists and who weren't, and then use the example of Rosen to show reporters what happens to those the White House "de-certifies" as reporters

Seems they overplayed their hands. BTW Holder's replacement, Deval Patrick, who went to Milton Academy, Harvard and Harvard law school had to take the bar 3 times to pass it. He also grew up on food stamps and apparently affirmative action, so he is Holder personified.

centralcal

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller

Pres Obama to nominate former State Dept spkswmn Victoria Nuland to be Asst Secretary of State for European & Eurasian Affairs.

narciso

It is striking how easy a mark, Carlos Slim's dancing chimps are;

Gus

As usual Obama lies like a rug, and pats himself on the back. He's a disgustin pile of shit.

Extraneus

Couldn't Rosen sue?

Jim  Rhoads

Obama is a coward and a bully. All bullies are cowards, but not all cowards are bullies. Being both is exceedingly odious.

Brian

That's a non-story. A newsworthy story is that, during his droning speech yesterday, that weakling in the White House, Obama, as much as conceded that we could and probably will lose the war against Muslim Terrorists.

henry

Gus, last I saw Obama blamed you for everything. ;)

narciso

It's an embarassingly facile exercise, specially considering the Audience;

Quite nearly around the same time in the cycle'

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/11/politics/10WEB-PTEX.html?pagewanted=all

pagar

" Obama blamed you for everything"

including bribing the DHS to implement Obamacare.

narciso

I thought that was 'Snuffy the Janitor' (Futurama reference).

MarkO

Sing with me:

Tin soldiers and Obama's coming.
We're finally on our own.

Four dead in Benghazi.

Or was it 6? What happened to that Buckley report?

German Obtherver

Hmmmm, veddy inthirethting!

Jeff Dobbs

A newsworthy story is that, during his droning speech yesterday

Are you not in the US? Is today (when the speech actually occurred) already yesterday where you are?

maryrose

Marko:
You are so right in your statements.Bammy wanted his blanky and a smoke whilst Bin Laden was getting killed. He likes drones because they are impersonal weapons ,detached from the target.
He went to bed the night of Benghazi after he told his minions to "handle it" He is callous and crude. Howard Dean does a good imitation of him with his demeaning comments about Benghazi.
I can't believe Lerner isn't out collecting unemployment right now. Asked her to resign? It's called firing her ass you numbnut!

maryrose

I guess Lerner isn't going to go quietly. She has an arrogant face and tilt of her head, Just like Obama. Taught by the master.

narciso

From ABC's account, it just gets more and more absurd, as it goes along;


– Oh! and the President engaged a heckler today. “The voice of that woman is worth paying attention to,” he told an audience at the National Defense University as CodePink’s Medea Benjamin berated him on Guantanamo Bay and his drone policy.

maryrose

EXT:
I hope Rosen can sue them . I hope his parents can also.

MarkO

"I guess Lerner isn't going to go quietly."

I hope not. May she squeal like a stuck pig. Yahoo.

maryrose

Hillary uses that same Holder tactic of attacking her questioners. It works so even flunky IRS people use it.

Clarice

See how credible this sounds to you:Holder says he recused himself re the AP subpoena but h didn't so it as the statute requires and there's no record of his having done that; he did, however , sign the affidavit getting the Rosen search warrant but we didn't know that because the affidavit was accidentally misfiled by the Ct clerks,

pagar

"I guess Lerner isn't going to go quietly."

I believe she should take the 10 Democrat Senators who told the IRS to do what the IRS did, with her when she goes.

Jeff Dobbs

maryrose:
I can't believe Lerner isn't out collecting unemployment right now. Asked her to resign? It's called firing her ass you numbnut!

Surely as a teacher, with the mix of bureaucracy and unions, you have seen this before.

narciso

Pirandello says hi, admits this is too absurd even for him;

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-philbin/2013/05/23/networks-evening-shows-don-t-name-islam-london-terror-attack

Neo

I knew Obama was heading for the chutes when he invited a whole gaggle of human rights activists to the White House to announce that he was working on a legal framework for permanent detentions.
I would have expected the audience to react much like the audience of "Springtime for Hitler"

sbwaters

Darn it. As soon as someone says "Spingtime for Hitler" the melody starts in my mind.

Funny play.

narciso

The TOTUS must have slipped it in, without him noticing,

“Deranged or alienated individuals often US citizens or legal residents can do enormous damage. Particularly when inspired by larger notions of violent jihad. That pull towards extremism tends to have led to the shooting at Fort Hood and the bombing of the Boston Marathon.”

Stephanie

HuffPo just called for Holder's resignation.

Account Deleted

If the President got choomed up enough to gather the courage that he has never and will never have to ask the POSAG to quit, why wouldn't the POSAG just give him the finger as Lerner did? Holder has an atlas showing where all the bodies are buried and the President has ? to exchange.

Patrick comes from the same garbage pit as Holder so the Republic gains nothing by replacing a liar and a thief with another liar and thief.

Let Holder stay and sway gently in the breeze. He's earned it.

Account Deleted

If the President got choomed up enough to gather the courage that he has never and will never have to ask the POSAG to quit, why wouldn't the POSAG just give him the finger as Lerner did? Holder has an atlas showing where all the bodies are buried and the President has ? to exchange.

Patrick comes from the same garbage pit as Holder so the Republic gains nothing by replacing a liar and a thief with another liar and thief.

Let Holder stay and sway gently in the breeze. He's earned it.

The Infamous Ignatz

Think of the incriminating crap that's being hidden if we are finding this much out with almost no access, little press curiosity and congress barely scratching the surface.

narciso

Like I say, just an embarassing exercise;


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-no-large-scale-terrorist-attacks-us-i-became-president

narciso

Well we see the security services are equally useless across the pond;

Gus

Narciso, none since the first year of Bush's first term. Obama is a fuktard.

Gus

I just want to comment on Henry's link. That picture of Gus the janitor does NOT look like me, except for the GREEN clothing. Henry knows what I look like!! Shame on you Henry.

centralcal

Think of the incriminating crap that's being hidden if we are finding this much out with almost no access, little press curiosity and congress barely scratching the surface.

I know. Not a pollyanna. Not sanguine. Yet . . .

"More things are wrought by prayer, than this world dreams of ..."

Sometimes, I wonder if evil doesn't simply destroy itself as the result of many a righteous prayer and its own hubris.

OldTimer

Finally, a little needed perspective for my headline battered soul:

http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/05/20/5-signs-that-we-havent-lost-america-yet/

Jim Miller

Another disaster: The I-5 bridge over the Skagit River collapsed about 7 this evening. People and cars are in the water.

(For those unfamiliar with Washington state, the bridge is about 60 miles north of Seattle, on the state's main north-south route.)

I would say, looking at the pictures, that it is almost certain that some lives were lost. And given how cold our rivers are at this time of year, hypothermia would be a danger for anyone who survived the fall.

Try KOMO 4, King 5, of Kiro 7 for coverage from our local TV stations.

Clarice

Don't miss this--some great deductive reasoning:Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/05/24/wapos-marimow-fails-reveal-18-month-delay-unsealing-rosen-warrant-which-#ixzz2UBtzvVXz

Looks like the WaPo had inside info about the improperly hidden from view order inRosen's case

Manuel Transmission

Jim,

All the locals here cross that bridge regularly for their monthly big box runs. I heard them say it might have been a wide load truck that struck the superstructure. Apparently it was given a clean bill of health last November.

daddy

See how credible this sounds to you:Holder says he recused himself re the AP subpoena but h didn't so it as the statute requires and there's no record of his having done that; he did, however , sign the affidavit getting the Rosen search warrant but we didn't know that because the affidavit was accidentally misfiled by the Ct clerks,

Great comment Clarice!

(and as a betting man I'm laying 2 to 1 odds we see it again come Sunday morning.)

daddy

Clarice,

Excellent link at 3:03 AM. (I see you're burning the midnight oil.)

It confirms your previous comment about Judge Lambeth being a decent man, while at the same time showing that the WaPo is up to their eyeballs in telling untruths, and in apparently sitting on stories that would be advantageous to their political opponents if reported.

We've got so much corruption going on its hard to keep up.

Jane on Ipad

I agree Daddy. And I doubt we will ever be able to stop it, Bill Ayers won.

Extraneus

A series of letters suggests that senior IRS official Lois Lerner was directly involved in the agency’s targeting of conservative groups as recently as April 2012, more than nine months after she first learned of the activity.

Lerner, the director of the IRS exempt organizations office in Washington, D.C., signed cover letters to 15 conservative organizations currently represented by the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) between in March and April of 2012. The letters, such as this one sent to the Ohio Liberty Council on March 16, 2012, informed the groups applying for tax-exempt status that the IRS was “unable to make a final determination on your exempt status without additional information,” and included a list of detailed questions of the kind that a Treasury inspector general’s audit found to be inappropriate. Some of the groups to which Lerner sent letters are still awaiting approval.

Lerner has denied involvement in the targeting, which she has blamed on a few “front-line people” in the agency’s Cincinnati field office.

Extraneus

That was from NRO. Wouldn't post with blockquotes, so I tried without.

Extraneus

Linky no post.

daddy

First Cal Thomas told us Dr. Ben Carson should apologize to President Obama for his comments at The National Prayer Breakfast.

Now Cal tells us that President Obama's "Racism rant" at Morehouse College the other day was "Inspirational."Cal Thomas: President inspires in commencement speech

I am sorry to learn that President Obama has got naked pictures of Cal Thomas.

G'nite.

jimmyk

Obama: "But this war, like all wars, must end. That's what history advises. It's what our democracy demands."

What the f*** does that even mean? Wars don't just end. There's either a victory, a surrender, or a truce agreement. Which is it, Mr President? Complete BS.

Not exactly, "We will fight them on the beaches...."

Jeff Dobbs

G'nite daddy.

I'll be up your brother's way come sunset...

Jane

What the hell is wrong with Cal Thomas? He is also a fan of Bob Beckel so I guess I'm not surprised.

NK

jimmyk@7:56-- as usual an astute observation. It is complete BS b/c JEF is a Muslim Muppet. He doesn't want to 'win' the war against AQ, he just didn't want to lose it before 11/12. Now-- he's a lameduck politically, so it's seek LeftWing adulation ALL THE TIME. So from now on-- It's Gays, Gunz, Cut the Military and Soak the Rich-- ALL THE TIME.

Extraneus

Click for full size.

Extraneus

Strassel: Conservatives Became Targets in 2008

The Obama campaign played a big role in a liberal onslaught that far pre-dated Citizens United.
Marlene

Happy Memorial Day week-end! The *summer* season begins with heavy rain and possible snow flurries tomorrow night.
Be safe if you are on the road.

Extraneus

IBD: Now The Gibson Guitar Raids Make Sense

narciso

It doesn't even fall to 'it's just a fleshwound' converage'


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-philbin/2013/05/23/networks-evening-shows-don-t-name-islam-london-terror-attack

NK

IBD/Obama Enemies List-- I am spitting mad. This bastard is a two-bit ChiTown thug.

jimmyk

Drudge has this picture next to "Obama claims 'no large-scale attacks' on U.S. since 9/11..."

narciso

The enemy is much less reluctant to state it's aims and methods

kave

All this nonsense about killing Osama Bin Laden and the war on terror being over makes me want to wretch.
Bin Laden was JUST one part of a whole. Granted at this point in time he is/was the biggest part(only because his plan was successful) but none the less he was the central figure of just one of many, many groups of Islamists that have been attacking the U.S. and other countries for years. Before, after and at the time of the original 9/11.
I am not going to list all the attacks here, if you need a refresher do a google search.
Absolutely nothing has changed because of Osama’s death. The Islamists just keep on planning and executing their terror, whether one or thousands die makes no difference to them.
How is it that the FOOL in office cannot see this. It really is just a matter of time before another successful major attack, but while we wait the the smaller attacks will continue and be called independents and lone wolves. Make no mistake Islamists are perfectly happy with whatever attack is successful. And I am certain they are perfectly happy with “leading from behind” JEF.

NK

Plus-- JEF doesn't want to 'win' the war against AQ-- he's a Dhimmi kinda guy.

Janet

Great links this morning you guys! My FB is a mirror of JOM.

narciso

Remember he just wanted to 'understand' the enemy
at the time, he still doesn't get it. To hold UBL's skull as if it was Vercingtoriz misses the point. Usama was important because he could organize such attacks, KSM was a much larger player, of course, the odds will dictate they will develop further expertise, because much like Horatio Caine' AQ 'never cloese'

jimmyk

Someone needs to ask the JEF how many people were injured in the "small-scale" Boston attack. How many amputations? Mr. President, how many casualties qualify as "large-scale"? Did you get agreement with the jihadists that the war is over?

Porchlight

OT,

Not trying to push my luck with Sandy Daze. But re: Gaouette and Ham and Petraeus, in the other thread. Per Sandy's quote, the complaint against Gaouette was lodged Oct 13 2012, a month after Benghazi. He was relieved of his command on Oct 18 2012. The Petraeus affair broke right after the election.

How to say this. If you do something the administration doesn't like, the administration will find a way to punish you, even if it's by disclosing other bad things that you did, things which would have remained quietly under wraps if you hadn't also done the thing that the administration didn't like.

Real life related example: LBJ was famous for things like putting his arm around a Congressman and saying under his breath "I hear you were out drinking last night, John" just before a big vote came up.

IOW I very much doubt that we know the whole story about the relief of command of those three men.

jimmyk

Porch, do we understand why they would be keeping quiet about it? Aren't all three now out of the military?

MarkO

I may have to revise "Obama's just not that smart," to "Obama is really stupid."

narciso

I don't know how those three felt, but readin McCrystals' memoir, he was entirely too trusting,
he thought the Dems were actually acting in good faith, rather then sandbagging him.

Janet

That is a great point, Porchlight.

Threadkiller

Ext, I don't buy into Strassel's "Big Bad Bauer" theory one bit.

Bauer was entirely honest during the birth certificate unveiling.

He should be trusted.

MarkO

Thick as thieves? Even John Bolton endorses Victoria Nuland.

NJJan

The JEF hubris knows no bounds. He has nominated Nuland for assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/05/obama-nominates-nuland-for-assistant-secretary-of-164711.html?hp=r3

NJJan

Mark O
I saw John Bolton on Fox a couple of weeks ago defending Nuland as an excellent state dept member and an old friend. They are part of the same system.

MarkO

NJJan, I think she should be disqualified for participating in a cover-up. It is no defense to say, as Bolton did, she was just following orders.

Extraneus

I have no idea what you're talking about, TK. (I don't read the birther posts.)

Account Deleted

Some questions concerning the FBI execution killing of Todashev.

Threadkiller

Then you will just have to trust Danube's faith in Bauer.

jimmyk

Well, Nuland has not hesitated to trash Bolton, e.g.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/state-dept-slams-john-boltons-wild-speculation-hillary-clinton-faked-illness-to-avoid-benghazi-hearings/

narciso

No, Bauer is a weasel per excellance, and not just because he was married to Anita Dunn, Perkins and Coie, is like that fictional firm
in that Pacino film about the devil

MarkO

Why is MK Ham on television?

Threadkiller

Chick cop is my guess, Rick.

sbwaters

Jane: I agree Daddy. And I doubt we will ever be able to stop it, Bill Ayers won.

Jane, Bill Ayers hasn't won so long as you keep doing what you do.

NJJan

Mark O
I completely agree. It looks like she is on list of 13 State Dept officials Issa has requested Kerry to make available for questions. That is why mentioned the president's hubris, not to mention arrogance, in nominating her.

maryrose

NJJAn:
Nuland needs to answer voluminous questions first before her little toe gets anywhere near a confirmation hearing.
Preezy is just doing what he does best-doubling down and daring repubs and the press to call him on it.

Threadkiller

Is it hubris or part of a plan?

With the nomination he would be sending Nuland to a Senate confirmation hearing.

She will surely get grilled there.

NK

Nuland Confirmation? why not call Lady Hillary! MacBeth as a witness?

narciso

She was the point person in the drafting of the talking points, she's worth a filibuster don't you think?

NJJan

TK
Nuland would probably be grilled as hard as Pritzker just was at a Senate confirmation hearing. Hopefully, Issa gets his hands on her first. Nomination may fade away if that happens. Should be fired, not promoted.

Jane

" Even John Bolton endorses Victoria Nuland."

What he actually said is he would vote for her after she answered a million questions.

Janet

The Dems just keep pushing. Keep moving, keep moving.
There is an outcry over targeting conservatives?....who cares, keep pushing.
We lied about Benghazi?...what difference at this point does it make?, keep pushing.

It is like a parent with an out-of-control teen taunting the parent with What are you gonna do about it?

Perhaps Republicans need to read some Tough Love books & then apply the ideas to the Dems. We can not keep uncovering things & being outraged....but nothing happens.
We need BIG consequences & we need them NOW.

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