Let me be the first to misrepresent this new panel finding:
Panel Finds No Benefit in Sharply Restricting Sodium
They are not saying "Salt It Up"; they are saying that there are reasons to doubt that lower levels of sodium consumption extolled by some are in fact beneficial (which is Not News). But my guess is this will be widely misinterpreted.
Well, misinterpet away, I say! Going after both salt and sugar is like going after the Joker and a jaywalker. Our national dietary discussion would benefit from a focus on the real baddies. Do keep in mind - like zombies, sugar eats your brain!
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Posted by: Clarice | May 14, 2013 at 08:44 PM
DoT @ 7:50 BINGO. Give that man a cigar. There could be no HOSTILE ACTION during the election run-up. No "incident" that made Obama aggressive looking.
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 08:45 PM
Per Rick's link: When did the House vote on completely defunding BammyCare two times after 2011? I know that the first post 2010 continuing resolution zeroed it out but I don't remember one or two things since then.
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 14, 2013 at 08:45 PM
I think this IRS scandal will put a dent in Obama...
Posted by: gmax | May 14, 2013 at 08:47 PM
I have a question that nobody has asked yet.
Obama keeps saying in all of these SCANDALS, that he needs more information, that he cannot say xyz until the investigation is complete etc etc etc etc etc lie lie lie.
Well.
He had no problem blaming this VIDEO, before all the info was in. How can this be?
I mean the time he was sure of himself, is when he was giving THE WRONG INFO. Why didn't he wait then???
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 08:51 PM
If Obama had a
sonscandal it would look like this...Posted by: Threadkiller | May 14, 2013 at 08:56 PM
"Was anyone aware of these actions?"
I was aware of a couple and a couple are examples of interpretive dance. The twitter feed for the two flacks running the blog have a sharper tone than the pieces.
I'm prejudiced in my preference for the steady hum of the meat grinder over the intermittent whine of a circular saw.
Posted by: Account Deleted | May 14, 2013 at 08:58 PM
"Why didn't he wait then???"
You've actually said something important.
THIS is the trillion dollar question.
Posted by: Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version) | May 14, 2013 at 09:01 PM
I think some fighters could have been sent from Tripoli.
If you mean the SOF guys getting on the C-130, that was probably feasible. I don't know, nor do I know how many we're talking about, nor what mission they'd be abandoning. The guy who testified apparently didn't think it was a game-changer, because he recommended a fighter (jet). There were no fighters closer than Italy, and they can't make the round trip loaded without a tanker. Which by all reports was not available.
At the time there were rumors of GEN Ham having to be restrained and we never did get to the bottom of that one.
We've plowed this ground before. Ham was giving a brief in Reno on the tenth . . . he wasn't even in theater.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | May 14, 2013 at 09:32 PM
At this point I don't much care about whether or not air support, or some sort of military response team, could have arrived in time to prevent loss of life. What is important is that, at the time Obama ruled out any military response, no one had any idea how long the fighting would continue--for all they knew it would go on for three days.
Not buying this one either. By the time a significant military response was feasible, the crisis had ended.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | May 14, 2013 at 09:50 PM
Thanks for the link to the LA Times TK. I think it is fair to draw the inference that the beginning of the IRS jihad against Tea Party types stemmed from ElJefe's ire at the SCOTUS decision. He and his minions could not abide any significant challenge to his philosophy of government, and that fact was made known to everyone in the Executive Branch.
As we all know, precatory orders like Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest? are often as effective as direct orders to courtiers.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet | May 14, 2013 at 09:53 PM
Not buying this one either. By the time a significant military response was feasible, the crisis had ended.
How do you know that, Cecil?
Posted by: Porchlight | May 14, 2013 at 09:55 PM
If the stand down orders were given after the crisis was clearly over as you suggest, TC, I agree with you. What I don't know at this point is when the stand down orders were given, and who gave them.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet | May 14, 2013 at 09:55 PM
The response team from the actual embassy in Tripoli WANTED to get to Benghazi. The 2 heroes Woods and Doherty who died on the roof, were sacrificed by WHOMEVER gave the stand down order. WHO AND WHY WAS THE STAND DOWN ORDER GIVEN. The DIPLOMATIC SECURITY and MILITARY RESOURCES were ready to board the C130 for a short one hour flight and were told NOT TOO.
Some on this blog are THICK, there was NO REASON not to AT LEAST let them go to the BENGHAZI AIRPORT.
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Agree with Gus. There was no non-political reason not allow the response team from Tripoli to go - at mimimum.
Again - "wouldn't have gotten there in time" - how on earth could that have been known at the time?
Posted by: Porchlight | May 14, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Attack started before 10 pm. Woods and Doherty CIA heroes, DIE ON ROOF DEFENDING OUR PEOPLE after 5AM.
More than 7 hours. Care to debate more????
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 10:14 PM
When was the stand down order given, Gus?
Posted by: Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet | May 14, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Porchlight!! A couple things. I saw a small truck wrapped with ads for a company called PORCHLIGHT the other day. 2) I am very very knowledgable about every detail of Benghazi, because my brother puts his ass on the line for this nation all the time. Third, Obama and Rodham are COWARDS, INCOMPETENT, UNPATRIOTIC, SELFISH and DISHONEST. There COULD BE NO "INCIDENT" in the MUSLIM WORLD. WE HAD AN ELECTION TO WIN!!!
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 10:20 PM
I am with you Gus, all the way. God bless your brother.
I wonder what the Porchlight company does?
Posted by: Porchlight | May 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Jim, no one has said, exactly when the stand down order was given, but COL GIBSON told Greg Hicks that he was embarrassed that the STATE DEPT apparatus had bigger stones than WHOMEVER was making that call. REGARDLESS of when the STAND DOWN to the Spec Ops team (of sorts) was given. Those making that decision, had no way of knowing if Woods and Doherty would be killed at 5:30 am, or noon the following day. THERE COULD BE NO INCIDENT DURING ARAB SPRING!!!
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Porch, I think they do TALKING POINTS for the CIA/STATE/and WHITEHOUSE. Business is brisk.
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Fox had an exclusive article on October 25th which claimed
They also mention the two drones, later confirmed. How would anyone know whether the teams were actually on hand?
Posted by: Account Deleted | May 14, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Rick, there was NO HELP COMING. Obama went to sleep, he had a big fund raiser in FECKING LAS VEGAS the next day. Rodham was most likely DRUNK and asleep when she made a call to Greg Hicks, then left the BENGHAZI people to die.
We need to understand, that with all the MIGHT and GREATNESS of the U.S.MILITARY/State department and CIA. Our country has been under NEW MANAGEMENT for 4 years.
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Rick there are things that the OBAMA JOKE ADMIN definitely knows for sure!!! DRONES, Anti-Muhammad Videos, and that Obama knew nothing about anything, until Candy Crowley told him that he called it a TERRORIST attack the very next day. And then her reversed that Candy Crowley aided lie for 2 more weeks.
Posted by: Gus | May 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Holder is a liar, complete and utter!
Posted by: Maxine | May 15, 2013 at 07:03 AM
LtCol Gibson's "force" in Tripoli was apparently a four man team. That's obviously not enough for a relief force, and the official story is that they were tasked with handling evacuees, which they did.
And this timeline shows the CIF arriving in Sigonella too late to do anything (but still with orders to proceed until after the final firefight)--which is the same story I got from the military grapevine about a month after the fact. Bottom line: if someone is claiming differently, they need to be able to prove it . . . and I don't think they can.
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LtCol Gibson's "force" in Tripoli was apparently a four man team. That's obviously not enough for a relief force, and the official story is that they were tasked with handling evacuees, which they did.
Adding four men to Woods and Doherty makes the effective force a minimum of three times as effective. Closer to four or five times even before you figure the SOF regulars improved communications and weapons.
Figuring the SOF team would have a medic and heavy weapons able to take out the mortar that was attacking them and just adding four men to the two contractors that were responding themselves (all the way from Tripoli) and the effective force is more like six or eight times as effective.
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