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June 29, 2013

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Captain Hate

I'm guessing these people aren't 30 Rock fans: http://twitchy.com/2013/06/29/my-capital-one-card-just-joined-westboro-company-mocked-for-pr-fail-after-alec-baldwin-meltdown/

Gus

Or. What's in your wallet ya f#$%ing queer?

Gus

I think it's quite obvious. The racist Cracka Ass Hispanic white dude, thought that lying about the position of Skittles arms was his way out!!!

He's one smart Creepy Cracka Ass!! He told the truth about everything except the position of Skittles arms. DEVIOUS in it's simplicity.

rich@gmu

I'm trying to get the Worthless POS List for this low farce correct. Do you think the President should be before or after Corey?

I'd put the President at the top. We are getting to have that national conversation on race he wanted. Too bad.

morning all. got an email from JM Hanes!!! she's still my favorite.

Ignatz

I would think some airhead named Hilaria would be just about the only possible match for a crashing boor like Baldwin.

Dr. Weevil

I agree with Jim Rhoads (12:58) and Bruce Hayden (1:17) "that the Good testimony that he didn't actually see Martin hitting Zimmerman is a not a blow to the defense", but I think we can be a little more specific.

It seems to me that Good was saying that he saw either a brutal beating (of GZ by TM), or a couple of skilled actors doing a very convincing portrayal of a brutal beating, but what he saw couldn't tell him which it was as he was watching, because he could not be quite sure that the blows were landing. Of course, even then, he could be pretty sure it was a real beating, because a movie crew would have been idiots to be filming in that place, at that time, in that weather. But he wasn't absolutely sure.

Now he knows, just as we all know, that the beating was genuine, because one of the participants was in fact severely injured and the other is dead. But he can't testify that he knows from personal knowledge that it was a genuine beating, because that is more than his personal observation told him.

Gus

Funny thing Rich, is that the LEFT does not want a conversation on race. They want the race card. It works.
The Media has decided illiteracy is intelligence and we just need to understand the illiterate losers "culture". Creepy ass Cracker isn't racist. It's a cultural norm.
Then Alec Baldwin is quoted as saying.."I've got nothing against queers, my wifes hairstylist is a faggot", and the conversation on homosexuality is started.
But no soup for you!!! Paula Deen.

Carol Herman

When JFK got shot in Dallas, there's a still from Zapruder's film that shows JFK trying to clutch his neck.

After being shot.

Before being dead.

It seems arms can move towards the wound.

GZ only shot one bullet. He said TM was still alive. And, after being pummeled by the MMA "ground & pound" blows, wouldn't it be natural for GZ to want to make sure Trayvon's arms couldn't hit him any more?

Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet

Elements of manslaughter in FL:

The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree...

Lawful Justification:

776.012 *** a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:

(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself...

I inartfully tried to make the point that manslaughter needs no proof of intent. TM's killing indisputably resulted from GZ's act of shooting. in both Murder 2 and manslaughter, the prosecution must prove that GZ did not "reasonably believe" shooting TM was "necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself".

I agree with the above observations that the evidence supports the inference that TM's arm position when photographed at the scene may have resulted from his voluntary or involuntary death throes.


rich@gmu

Gus-

Seems strange that the narrative is being rewritten on the weekend. I recall reading just a few days ago a Reuters article that said the trial was "racially charged" &c, &c. Still would not be surprised in the least if Z is convicted of something, maybe on all of it.

Old Lurker

CH: "One of the comments on that link (slightly modified by me): If McRINO had another son, he'd look like Rubio."

Except that when McCain was young, he actually was a hero. It took him a lifetime to become a fool.

Ignatz

BTW if anyone is looking for something to do over the next few days, on TV there is a large number of skinny men pedaling furiously across the Gallic countryside
after imbibing and infusing various concoctions and cocktails of performance enhancing potent potables.

Personally I think at this point I'd prefer watching real junkies who shoot up for fun instead of for francs.

NJJan

CH

Sarah's riposte of 30 pieces of silver is priceless. So are some of the comments. She is really on target!

rich@gmu

117° BABY!
VEGAS TIES ALL TIME TEMP

Yikes!!! Hope everyone out there has someplace cool.

and it is looking worse for Hernandez as hard is that is to believe.

Jack is Back

Rich,

Outside of a few tricked up golf courses, most go to Vegas to stay inside not outsise:)

Jane -

I think Harry Reid should be home walking naked in the desert.

Oh I forgot, he calls the DC Ritz home.

rich@gmu

JiB-

oops. my second cup of coffee isn't working.

rich@gmu

quiet this afternoon. everyone must be cleaning their guns and restocking ammo.

Danube on iPad

It's not unusual for jurors to be confused by jury instructions, or to ignore them altogether, particularly when they are read by the judge in a bored monotone (as often happens). I would not be very shocked if these six ladies, even believing that Trayvon threw the first punch and was on top, setlled on manslaughter on the notion that "gee, he really didn't have to shoot him, did he?"

Extraneus


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Jane -

Dot,

Would you think the same thing if the jury were 6 men? I'm not trying to imply sexism, I'm just wondering.

Danube on iPad

Yes, Jane. I don't see how gender cuts one way or the other.

I'm sure you and other lawyers here have seen the phenomenon I'm talking about. It's not a good thing for the system when it happens, but it does happen.

rse

rich-was at a dinner party last night and it turned out every family there had at least one of the adults carrying or with a gun now in car. I was shocked. Doctors and others who I would not have guessed.

And they all seemed to know dhs had been buying up ammo and it made them want to buy guns even more. Fascinating.

Carol Herman

Nobody mentions that Dee-Dee, being human, has feelings. At that TM's family never embraced her. Though she's the linchpin through which their lawyer Crump was able to contact her (in the ghetto).

The first question that pops up is that she's lied to Trayvon's mother about her age. Saying she was 16. She looked pretty annoyed that this meant the Martin's and Crump had to seek her mom's permission to "interview a minor." Which she was not!

Her mom was not around. Out of town? Out of the country? In jail? Nobody knows. But Trayvon's mom doesn't seem interested in offering this gal any comfort. Instead, Dee-Dee gets used. And, is subjected to a spotlight where she looks worse, because TV makes you look fatter.

In the run up to her date with destiny, she had her nails done (orange). Did you notice that the polish was removed? However she had prepared for her court appearance, Crump came along and re-did her public appearance. And, someone also scrubbed her Twitter account.

Is all of this supposedly floating under the radar screen?

She knew Diamond Eugene was a fake name. (And, being 16 was a fake age.) Still, she wasn't told HOW to attend the wake! How was she supposed to get there? Is it possible no one offered her a ride?

Is Dee-Dee worried? I think so. Crump's not "her" lawyer. He's the Martin family's hire.

Do lawyers often come across witnesses like this in their work?

Dee-Dee is the only one who connects Trayvon to the ghetto. (Mentality and all.) Trayvon's parents moved on up. And, away from all that.

And, Dee-Dee's been left out in the cold. Still, she owns the knowledge on the explosive stuff.

Jack is Back

When we left Sebonack, Inbee Park was 10 under and had a 5 stroke lead. Coming home, let the dogs out, take Frederick to the beach to be with his buddies , come back the house, turn the TV on and find that she is now -8 and with a 3 shot lead.

You cannot run away on this course. I don't even think Annika could.

Danube on iPad

Anybody know whether Florida juries can take the written jury instructions into the jury room with them?

boris

Appx relative size of the 7-11 clerk, GZ and TM within a day of the shooting ...

Clarice

I seem to recall that the defense has left open the possibility they may recall Jeantel to question her on the scrubbing of her tweets.

Jane -

I don't think I've ever tried a criminal case to a jury. (If I did, it would have been 25 years ago - still I think I would remember.)

Juries are always impossible. That is made worse in MA because we have no voir dire. As far as I'm concerned going to a jury is akin to going to Las Vegas and putting everything you own on 7.

I've tried fewer than 20 civil cases to a jury, the longest lasting 6 weeks, and I have never had a bead on what makes them tick. I think I've probably been too busy to try and figure it out.

narciso

But didn't they move the body, from the place that they found it, the pictures have him facing down, which would be impossible, if he fell back when shot.

narciso

JiB, I meant to ask, is this De La Ronda's style of trying a case, or is this only when he is railroading.

boris

"if he fell back when shot"

According to GZ after being shot TM sat up said "okay you got me". From there he may have fallen forward, or GZ wrestled him to the ground face down and spread-eagled his arms in case he was holding anything. At that point GZ did not think TM was hit.

Elliott

On the prior Z thread,...Elliott (at 8:44)...

Lest there be any confusion, the author of the post to which Jim Rhoads refers is not the scribbler of the present paragraph. We should be readily distinguishable by our avatars.

Jack is Back

narciso,

He is. a bit of a. bulldog in Jax but then most of his capital crimes are no brainers up there. He was thrown into a case I don't think he really wanted. This, as you know, is a put up job by naive governor Scott. This is the tradeoff you get between a pol and a noivce businessman. He's made all the right moves on the economy but doesn't understand the public race hustle.

He and Bondi are toast with the right thinking community. Remember, like Texas, lots of Vets in Florida and they are big time pissed off at this decision.

narciso

I figured that, this is a trip back down memory lane, that belies that alternate explanation of Martin's motive;

http://patdollard.com/2013/06/trayvon-martins-involvement-in-local-burglaries-covered-up-by-media-school-police/

Recall how the Enquirer through a Soros front, spread outright lies about the Huntress's oldest,
to diminish his desire to serve in the military.

Army of Davids

- no doubt Lois Lerner planted a question

other planted questions?

- lead to teachable moment bear summit Harvard professor/Boston cop

- lead to "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon"

- Stephanopolass debate birth control question to Romney...out of nowhere WTF...a few weeks later it was a big deal


it's all about controlling the narrative for Democrats/media

when the issues should be the economy, jobs, government corruption we get race, sex, homophobic bating

Army of Davids

- no doubt Lois Lerner planted a question

other planted questions?

- lead to teachable moment bear summit Harvard professor/Boston cop

- lead to "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon"

- Stephanopolass debate birth control question to Romney...out of nowhere WTF...a few weeks later it was a big deal


it's all about controlling the narrative/issue for Democrats/media

when the issues should be the economy, jobs, government corruption we get race, sex, homophobic bating

Captain Hate

Except that when McCain was young, he actually was a hero. It took him a lifetime to become a fool.

He's depreciated every iota of being a hero. He's indistinguishable from Rove these days; can't figure out why they don't get along other than deeply embedded self hatred.

narciso

In other news, Netflix is renewing a series 'Orange something or other, that no one has seen, that has Taylor Schilling, the blonde
Dagny Taggart, but also costars the wretched Jason Biggs.

Army of Davids

sadly... staged faintings in the Hope and Change era seem to have come to an end.


now people just throw up in disgust

ah...the memories of styrofoam columns and healing the planet


narciso

I think of him like the doddering king Theoden, led astray by Grimmatongue, (sic), although that's possibly too charitable,

Army of Davids

beer summits...bear summits...teachable moments both

narciso

Well he might have learned something from a Bear summit, just bring plenty of fish.

narciso

Of course, the large squirrel they've seized upon is an Instagram, by West's daughter with a
smart alecky tag.

narciso

Remember this fellow, (h/t Malkin)


Bin Bayyah’s moderate Muslim costume shouldn’t fool anyone. This sharia thug, who has worked with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to boost his progressive-friendly cred, lobbied the United Nations to outlaw all mockery and criticism of Allah. He raised money to benefit the terror group Hamas. He is a top lieutenant of Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader Yusuf Qaradawi, who exhorts followers to kill every last Jew; sanctioned suicide bombings and the killing of our soldiers; expressed support for executing apostates and stoning gays; and declared that the “U.S. is an enemy of Islam that has already declared war on Islam under the disguise of war on terrorism and provides Israel with unlimited support.”

narciso

And this is the version, Prince Talal allows to come through;


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/official-confirms-defends-white-house-meeting-with-controversial-muslim-scholar/

Jane -

Jack Cashil takes down Trayvon. He was a sadist and a fighter.

Extraneus

“U.S. is an enemy of Islam that has already declared war on Islam under the disguise of war on terrorism and provides Israel with unlimited support.”

If only.

narciso

Oh frabjous joy, look who's number 2, in this line up, Huma Abedin's former?? employee.

http://www.radicalmiddleway.org/event/understanding-extremism

Clarice

Dissecting the race hustle in Sanford.http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/06/29/the-nest-understanding-the-trayvon-martin-family-and-political-connections/

narciso

Somewhat of a parallel with Paula Deen, Zimmerman was conscientous in his activism, but that didn't serve him when they threw him to the sharks,

Carol Herman

Trayvon's mom wants to grow rich (and get out of the ghetto!) And, so you can go and guess her reaction when she see's "Diamond Eugene's" letter. And, she's told by this gal that she's a girl friend of Trayvon's. (Who is FROM da' ghetto.)

What does this gal look like when she's "sitting on the couch" by Trayvon's mom. Can Trayvon's mom "guess" that this gal (who is ugly) ... holds a key to millions in lawsuit money?

No one is gonna make an offer to Dee-Dee to help her get to the wake. And, when Dee-Dee is first picked up so she can get to Trayvon's mom's home ... There's an "intermediatry address." Not Dee-Dee's real home.

Add to this (from the testimony) that Dee-Dee is trying to pass herself off as 16 ... That a MINOR needs her own mom's approval. And, you learn that Dee-Dee's mom is NOT at home. (Out of the country?) And, you can see how Dee-Dee is gonna get used. Trayvon's mom, Sabrina, supplies Crump with enough information that he can get ahold of Dee-Dee. Where there's a "caravan of cars!" Wouldn't you want a "caravan" if you were going deep into the Black ghetto?

Where was the wake held?

The media is still spinning this story! But at Fox, while I was watching live, someone posted there were more than 20,000 other viewers. Not watching it on their TV's. But on their computers.

How big is the audience?

Will it grow on Monday? Or can the downside happen, and people lose interest?

Did a lot of people hear about Dee-Dee's testimony, and then searched for videos? How big is U-Tube's audience?

what's going to happen Monday morning where O'Mara said he needed extra time before the jury comes in at 9AM. And, the judge then said okay. And, moved the start time to 8:30 AM. Should be interesting to see what O'Mara has? Can it be "impeachable evidence?"

A smart judge would look for something where she could pull the plug. Alas, I don't think Nelson is smart at all. "Knock-Knock."

narciso

So Crump is working with Morgan who in turn is working with Charlie Cheetah, any more bright idea, Governor Scott.

narciso

Oh, and Morgan's partner Francis, was a major player in the Pigford settlement,

Ignatz

--Lest there be any confusion, the author of the post to which Jim Rhoads refers is not the scribbler of the present paragraph.--

I didn't think that was our erudite Elliott, even a signed out version, but didn't want to sound like a dope [more than usual, I mean] if it really was him and he was just having an off day.

narciso

Yes, Clarice, not a really thought out piece

pagar

The Pigford settlement efforts by the USDA probably will be dwarfed by the RABBIT department. Some of you may remember several years ago the USDA really got into fining people for not having the correct number of rabbits in the correctly measured pens etc.
The fine mentioned for one family I think was two million dollars.

Well thanks to the the continued efforts by the USDA the insanity has mushroomed.

http://bobmccarty.com/2013/06/28/usda-tells-magician-to-write-disaster-plan-for-his-rabbit/

My USDA rabbit license requirement has taken another ridiculous twist. I just received an 8 page letter from the USDA, telling me that by July 29 I need to have in place a written disaster plan, detailing all the steps I would take to help get my rabbit through a disaster, such as a tornado, fire, flood, etc. They not only want to know how I will protect my rabbit during a disaster, but also what I will do after the disaster, to make sure my rabbit gets cared for properly. I am not kidding–before the end of July I need to have this written rabbit disaster plan in place, or I am breaking the law.

In his email message, Hahne also explained the timeline via which he must comply: 1) the new regulation became effective Jan. 30, 2012; 2) the written plan must be completed by July 29, 2013; 3) Hahne and his wife, Brenda, must be trained to implement the plan as written; and 4) the written plan must be available for review by USDA inspectors by Sept. 28, 2013."

We, as a nation, have trillions of dollars more in debt than the last time I reported on this. Millions more invaders are pouring across our borders, and we have USDA inspectors running around to make sure that each rabbit has a disaster plan and that there are trained personnel around the rabbit at all times to make sure the plan is implemented in case of a disaster.

This is insane!

narciso

It's Rabbit season, pagar, and we are the rabbits.

pagar

The paragraph beginning-----------------------My USDA rabbit license requirement----------- is a quote and should have quotation marks around the entire paragraph in my 08:48PM post.

Jane -

Tell them the rabbit died.

narciso

Just another example of nuance and sophistication abroad;

sbwaters

The magician should tell the USDA that, poof!, the animal to which they refer is actually a rabbet, and grooved drawer corners are not covered by the act.

Gus

Pagar the Republicans are waging a war on Rabbits.

Gus

I thought the RABBIT INSPECTORS were furloughed because of the SEQUESTER.

narciso

A slightly different angle on the matter;


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/352370/bin-bayyah-bungle-andrew-c-mccarthy

one recalls Sheikh Salman who served a similar function in the Kingdom, and who is part of the Gitmo detainee rehabilitation effort, and now you see why their recidivism in 20%

Jane on Ipad hi there NSA

I may have misheard but I think I just heard santita Jackson say that we had no idea how beautiful and brilliant trayvon's girlfriend is.

Gus

Well Marcia Clark just weighed in on Whitey Zimmermans' injuries. She said that they didn't look that bad.

I'll ask once again to anyone willing to answer.
Which bash to the cement fractures the skull. The 2nd, the 6th? At what point does having your head banged against the sidewalk create enough fear to fire the shot that killed Skittles. The 1st.

pagar

My guess is the rabbit inspectors would be the last Federal workers to be laid off. The USDA is apparently very serious about this RABBIT disaster stuff.
I can't imagine the investigations that would be implemented if they found out the rabbit died during a disaster

narciso

What's she's trying to make De La Ronda seem competent, 'lord love a duck'

Gus

I think Santita Jackson is a very sage reporter. She's know for.....errrr......oh yes, she's known for being the daughter of Jesse Jackson, and Reverend with illegitimate children, a race baiter, pay offs to women he has had sexual affairs with, and Santita was Michelle Obama's pal growing up.
Yes, she seems to be a true intellectual heavyweight. Not to be confused with Dee Dee who is an illiterate heavy weight.

Account Deleted

"we had no idea how beautiful and brilliant trayvon's girlfriend is"

Very few of us are adept in using the wart hog as the comparative when evaluating beauty and intelligence.

It's a cultural thing. Santita just couldn't understand.

Stephanie

Which bash to the cement fractures the skull. The 2nd, the 6th? At what point does having your head banged against the sidewalk create enough fear to fire the shot that killed Skittles.


do a scientific investigation and start with Marsha. Move on to Santita and the rest. Of course experimenting on the already mentally challenged will tend to skew the results.

Gus

Yes. How many times would Whitey Zimmerman have been allowed to bash Skittles head against the sidewalk before Skittles would have been allowed to defend himself?

Clarice

If I were cold cocked and seeing stars and then the slugger proceeded to break my nose and smacking my head against the concrete I'd like my life and well-bing were at risk. Marcia's mileage may differ.

Anyway, stupid is what you get when you tune into TV--they need to say outrageous things to fill all the emty air time.

Clarice

*I'd think my life and well-being*

narciso

Yes, but 'that's much too silly indeed'

Clarice

As for Santita's comment that Jeantel is beautiful--well such things as Twilight Zone reminded us--are in the eyes of the beholder:http://www.tv.com/shows/the-twilight-zone/the-eye-of-the-beholder-12626/

narciso

Bad use of metaphor on the 50 yard line, Volodya is really enjoying this;

Gus

Of course you are correct Clarice, but it is really quite simple. If Marcia Clarks head was bashed on the concrete, wouldn't it be logical to expect or assume or believe, that the next bash might be fatal or might render he unconscious and unable to defend herself in any way.

Danube on iPad

Marcia's hapless performance in that case will be all that is ever remembered of her.

Gus

Jesse Jackson and Geraldo Rivera are both on FOX together right now.

Both are scum. Fox sucks.

narciso

At the same time, that's a 'crossing the streams' moment, Gus.

Ignatz

--we had no idea how beautiful and brilliant trayvon's girlfriend is--


A girl with a neck larger than my thigh, on the six year plan in high school and who cannot read handwriting; words fail.

Gus

Narciso, Jerry asked Jackson about HYMIETOWN.
These people are scum, and they are millionaires for NOTHING good.

Clarice

Translation, Iggie: Santita's meal ticket.

narciso

When I was a young lad, Rivera was already known to be a weasel, this was before Al Capone's vault.

Ignatz

--Santita's meal ticket.--

Not if DeeDee sees the meal first.

Gus

Even when Rivera comes to the correct conclusion, he is a clown. He makes me vomit.

Gus

Geraldo just told a black attorney to give his best to Skittles.....wonderful wonderful family.

WTF. What planet do libtards live on?

narciso

Well now that's clear, ok then in the LUN

Gus

Santita is "hooked up", she has a Masters in "Shake Down" The entire Jackson family is a pile of garbage.

narciso

Well I remember this about the wonderful clan;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2869466/posts

Gus

How does Hillary Rosen know Alec Baldwin's "heart"? Why do LIBTARDS who barely know each other, PRETEND, to be close friends??
Who was Billy Jeff Clinton's mentor in ARKANSAS, and what was his record on race relations??

Ignatz

--How does Hillary Rosen know Alec Baldwin's "heart"?--

All drones in a hive know the other even if they've never met.

Gus

Narciso, Sally Kohn is a lesbian nut. She is Rachel Maddow separated at birth, and she was raised by LIPPIES!! That's LIBTARD HIPPIES.
Santitties Jackson is just a second generation race HUSTLER.

Gus

No wonder so many people are allergic to bee stings.

narciso

He was nice in Beetlejuice, now that was some acting, tolerable in Hunt for Red October, and
in retrospect, all too close to the truth when he plaid the lout in Working Girl.

Gus

Alec Baldwin made me laugh my ass off, when he hosted Saturday Night Live. But I'm not laughing anymore.

Jane on Ipad hi there NSA

I had to change the channel. I swear Fox has more liberals on than conservatives, and each one is dumber than the last.

Clarice

Maybe that's the plan, Jane.

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