Dash To Dumb, ObamaCare Edition

Ezra Klein dashes away from dumb by reprising arguments he unsuccessfully made four years ago:

Obamacare’s employer mandate shouldn’t be delayed. It should be repealed.

However, his colleague Sarah Kliff has brain lock in assessing the politics of the delay:

Others dismissed concerns that employers would drop health coverage without the law’s mandate. The vast majority of large businesses already provide insurance to their workers, without any federal requirements to do so.

Groan. For decades there has been a huge tax incentive for employers to offer health coverage - the cost of health insurance is deductible to the employer as a compensation expense but is not taxable to the employee as income.

Other than for so-called "Cadillac plans" that will still be true under ObamaCare. However, ObamaCare introduces a powerful cross-current - employers can drop their coverage, pay a small-ish fine and let their employees fend for themselves on the new, government-subsidized exchanges, or they can shoulder the expense of health insurance as they have in the past. Folks who run the numbers conclude that the fines are low enough and the subsidies for low-income employees high enough that many firms, and their employees, can achieve a win-win by dropping the company health plan and shifting part of the cost to the government.

Ms. Kliff's notion that a tax-subsidized strategy will still be followed after the tax subsidies are drastically changed does not mesh with contemporary economic thought.

Comments

[centralcal]

Jane: Hopefully, it will be quite a contrast between the defense expert and Bao - who was an utter oddball and combative.

[narciso]

Does it seem they missed the Carnegie book;

MB members on top of Salah El Din mosque in Manial NOW firing at protesters, unconfirmed reports 5 killed. Military on way to scene. #Egypt

[centralcal]

Jeralyn at TalkLeft says the following about the family members' claims that it was their son (or nephew or brother):

The court has recessed for the weekend. This is an advantage for the defense, that the last witnesses it heard today are two who insist it is Zimmerman's voice on the 911 call. That said, I suspect the jury will not rely on the family members on either side in determining who was screaming. A common sense view of the other evidence in the case, particularly that the only person with injuries was Zimmerman, is compelling evidence it could only have been Zimmerman screaming.

The bolding is mine.

[narciso]

Ah, Red Chi4f found a friend, the Ed Schultz of Latin America

[Clarice]

Translation:Venezuela's offering Snowden asylum.

[centralcal]

narciso's comment refers to this:

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 12m

Venezuelan President Maduro said he will offer “humanitarian asylum” to Edward Snowden, Venezuela’s official news agency AVN reported Friday

[Clarice]

DoT, you aren't crazy or stupid enough to really put yourself in the shoes of the prosecution team. Really. Their moves are beyond our poor powers to imagine or justify.

[Manuel Transmission]

You guys can haggle over the minutia of the law, but I go back to first principles. In this case, Heinlein's dicta that "an armed society is a polite society" means to me that every kid should be raised with the fundamental rule: if you cock an arm to punch someone, be prepared to take a bullet in the face. Everything else is negociating on the price (like the old hustle line from the bar joke.) if you want to prove your machoness, put some gloves on and crawl into a ring. That goes especially to fat tub Beckel.

[Danube on iPad]

"DoT, you aren't crazy or stupid enough to really put yourself in the shoes of the prosecution team"

Apparently I'm neither, which is reassuring.

[narciso]

Well there's a genius move, the Venezuelan embassy is slightly more distant then the Ecuadorian embassy, from the Airport,

[Frau Kopftuch]

OT narciso - we've been watching Burn Notice since it started. Was it on this week?

[narciso]

No, it comes back, next week, interestingly the team is trapped in Cuba, through an odd turn of events,

[MarkO]

"Any ideas?"

Clarice,

I have many. All of which would not be good for me.

[Some Guy]

Hello everyone... it's been a while.

I'm ending my self-imposed exile to say that the prosecution’s rebuttal to the JOA is one of the most despicable things I’ve had the displeasure to witness.

Up until that point, I was giving the prosecutor’s the benefit of the doubt that they’d been dealt a lousy duty, and they were doing their best without even having the proverbial ham sandwich. In fact, one could credibly assert that they were actively throwing the case because they knew it was violation of Florida law to bring the charges.

Now instead they lied, they knowingly lied, they know their “evidence” doesn’t support their theory let alone their false assertions, and they all should be disbarred.

Yes they are clowns, but these clowns have people's lives in their hands... how times have they done this kind of crap away from cameras?

[narciso]

I think we are talking nonviolent or economic strategies,

[Frau Kopftuch]

Thank you, narciso. It's been a welcome distraction from the business at hand (reality).

[Gus]

So...how is that FAST and FURIOUS investigation going????

[narciso]

Interesting you would bring that up, they found yet another weapon, that killed a police chief in Mexico.

[narciso]

The show's winding down, they've given Donovan more directing duties, and a little less for Anwar, Campbell, and Bell to do.

[Danube on iPad]

the prosecution’s rebuttal to the JOA

Who or what is the JOZ?

I thought Meza's testimony was strong stuff.

[Frau Fragezeichen]

Things that make you go "hmmmmmm."
Could it be that the photo shown on Drudge of Barry & Co. dealing with the Egyptian crisis is not a recent one? Why is AG Holder in the room but SoS Kerry isn't?

[DrJ]

DoT,

Presumably "Judgement of Acquittal" and not the "Joint Operating Agreement" often used by newspapers to publish the Sunday editions of multiple-newspaper towns (remember those days?).

[Threadkiller]

Judge Ordered Acquittal?

[Threadkiller]

Did not refresh soon enough.

[Ignatz]

A directed verdict.

[Gus]

Narciso, THAT is not POSSIBLE. If one of Obama and Holders guns had killed a Mexican Official, the MFM would surely have reported it!!!!

[Danube on iPad]

"(CNSNews.com) - Since January 2009, when Barack Obama was inaugurated as president, the United States has seen 54 straight months with the unemployment rate at 7.5 percent or higher, which is the longest stretch of unemployment at or above that rate since 1948, when the Bureau of Labor Statistics started calculating the national unemployment rate."

Heckuva job, Barry.

[narciso]

You would think, Zerohedge had a chart about how jobs were net down 240,000, so they are cooking those numbers like one of those Russian recipes in that new spy thriller,

[DrJ]

DoT,

Remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the Bush jobless recovery? Unemployment was under 5%, and the media bleat was incessant.

[Some Guy]

Heckuva job, Barry.

And that's only if the numbers are accurate...

[Some Guy]

...it's worse.

[Gus]

DrJ. We are in uncharted territory. The MFM simply cannot bring themselves to understand, believe and admit, that Obama is a CLUSTERFUK beyond EPIC PROPORTIONS. Obama's belief systems, his instincts and his CHARACTER are so beyond fukked up, as to be CRIMINAL. They just will not admit it. What kind of complete AMERICAN COLLAPSE could possibly change that mindset and have an ability to HELP US???

[Frau Fragezeichen]

Remember "those are just burger flipping jobs"?

[Jane on Ipad hi there NSA]

Some guy,

Nice to see you.

[Some Guy]

Thx Jane

[waves to NSA analyst stuck working Friday night]

[Gus]

29 hour a week burger flipping jobs. Why are they not 40 hour a week burger flipping jobs??
WHAT CHANGED?? Unfortunately, Marxists, lie and lie and lie, and LIBTARD believe and believe and USUALLY DIE.

[narciso]

Besides Valerie Jarrett, these are some of the other players in this portrait of a royal court, that Leibovich details;;

But wait, there’s more! Scads of other inside players, big and small, get more briskly sideswiped. Walter Isaacson, the Aspen Institute president, “always blows right past” the author at parties en route to the more important folks, “and if he greets me at all, he calls me ‘Matthew,’ which I’ve never bothered to correct because Walter is so smart, for all I know my name IS Matthew.” . . . Ed Henry, the Fox News correspondent, is teased for his giant wedding cake, made to look like the White House, and is portrayed as eagerly sucking up to the French ambassador’s deputy in hopes of an invitation to the elite Vanity Fair/Bloomberg party. . . Though White House Press Secretary Jay Carney tried to pretend he was only vaguely familiar with Hilary Rosen after the strategist dissed Ann Romney, Leibovich recalls seeing them dance together at a super-cozy party thrown by lobbyists for “Meet the Press” producer Betsy Fischer.

[rse]

Thanks narciso. Aspen comes up a lot and that does put the proper spin of what the real 4th sector economy would be about.

Aristocracy of pull.

[Clarice]

I', going to bed. I sincerely hope you all have a great weekend nd next week is less crazy than this one is.XOXOXO

[Janet --- -... .- -- .- ... ..- -.-. -.- ...]

Remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the Bush jobless recovery? Unemployment was under 5%, and the media bleat was incessant.

yeah...& gas prices. The MFM don't care about high gas prices anymore either. The double standard is breathtaking.

[daddy]

Now they've gone too far!@#$

EPA Wants Gov't To Control How Cold Your Beer Can Be

Regulation: a little-noticed change in energy-efficiency requirements for appliances could lead to government controlling the power used in your home and how you set your thermostat.

...the EPA included an "optional" requirement for a "smart-grid" connection for customers to electronically connect their refrigerators or freezers with a utility provider...with the Obama administration's renewed focus on fighting mythical climate change, we expect it to become mandatory

...former EPA director Carol Browner told U.S. News & World Report in 2009, "we can get to a system when an electric company will be able to hold back some of the power so that maybe your air-conditioner won't operate at its peak."

So if one day you keep your house too cool or your beer too cold and the dials start moving, don't be surprised. Its just a campaign promise being kept.

[Janet --- -... .- -- .- ... ..- -.-. -.- ...]

Here is that great little video on Gas Price Hypocrisy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qKdScVerrBU

[DrJ]

Janet,

I'd forgotten about the gas price issue, but you're right of course. The evil oil man Bush would not upset his cronies in the business. And Darth Cheney headed Haliburton, that (muttering under breath) oil services company.

Now? Green is good! And the sycophants swoon. The economy? Let's talk about rising oceans! Or Egypt. Or illegal aliens and shadows. Or anything else.

Surprising!

[daddy]

Clarice,

You and the Wolverine should'a been in Narita Japan last night. It was the first day of the 3 Day Narita Gihon Festival:

It's a festival celebrating the arrival of spring. The streets were jammed with thousands of very happy people and wonderful food stalls, as teams of locals from the various precincts around the ancient Temple pulled their shrine-carts, loaded with their instrument playing elders and their image of some god, up and down the narrow old street.

It's hard to have a funner time and I'm sure the Wolverine would have loved it, as they let the kids, sorted by age, be allowed to help pull along the shrine carts.

[Danube on iPad]

George Will:

"Although the Constitution has no Article VIII, the administration acts as though there is one that reads: 'Notwithstanding all that stuff in other articles about how laws are made, if a president finds a law politically inconvenient, he can simply post on the White House Web site a notice saying: Never mind.'

"Never mind that the law stipulates 2014 as the year when employers with 50 full-time workers are mandated to offer them health-care coverage or pay fines. Instead, 2015 will be the year. Unless Democrats see a presidential election coming.

"This lesson in the Obama administration’s approach to the rule of law is pertinent to the immigration bill, which at last count had 222 instances of a discretionary'“may' and 153 of 'waive.' Such language means that were the Senate bill to become law, the executive branch would be able to do pretty much as it pleases, even to the point of saying about almost anything: Never mind."

[narciso]

Steyn delivers up his latest, some of which he debuted on the Rush show,

[DrJ]

Steyn's latest reports that the Muslim Brotherhood claims that Egypt's interim President is Jewish. Oy veh!

[Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet]

DOT:

Concur about Meza's testimony. Anyone who achieved the rank of Command Sergeant Major is as good a witness as you can find, and is toyed with at the opponent's peril. IMO, the best thing bar none that BDLR did in this trial was to sit down after CSM Meza testified.

[narciso]

Of the Seventh Day Adventist Jews, like they said of the hijacker in AirPlane, 'he is crazy and stupid'

[Dave (in MA)]

Kerry was yachting during coup in Egypt
Secretary of State John F. Kerry was off the coast of Nantucket while Egypt fell into chaos, despite his spokeswoman at first saying otherwise.

I guess the real news is that the Boston Globe is reporting this.

[Ignatz]

--Kerry was yachting during coup in Egypt--

Yeah, the only thing worse would have been Kerry somewhere near a lever of power.

[Threadkiller]

"Steyn's latest reports that the Muslim Brotherhood claims that Egypt's interim President is Jewish."

Now he worries about "rinky dink technicalities"?!?

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/28/steyn-dont-end-obamas-presidency-on-the-birther-rinky-dink-technicality/

[daddy]

John Kerry might be yachting in New England, but he's datelining press releases "Washington, D.C."

It's like he's lying to his Vietnam Diary all over again.

[Ignatz]

I'm surprised TK says he's not a registered Republican cause he's sure got a memory like an elephant. :)

[OldTimer]

It's not just Jon Cary...John Bolton sees NO one in the administration responding to the Egyptian situation.

http://www.hapblog.com/2013/07/john-bolton-hammers-obama-for-taking.html?m=1

[daddy]

I recall how during the Gulf Oil Spill BP's CEO Tony Hayward was harshly criticized for yachting.

on ABC’s This Week, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said Hayward yachting off the English coast during the oil crisis is “part of a long line of P.R. gaffes and mistakes.”

On CBS’s Face the Nation yesterday Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) called on Hayward to step down. “I thought the fact that the chairman of BP had the gall, the arrogance, to go to a yacht race…in England, while all of this was going on here was the height of stupidity. And I believe myself that he should go,” Shelby said.

etc.

[I imagine Kerry was sailing blind.]

Heh, Rahm and his gaffes; that's just how he fishes.
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[narciso]

This is why Heyward felt more confortable dealing with siloviki and oligarchs in Russia, there's never any doubt who you're dealing with,
he wasn't that effective dealing with TNK however.

[narciso]

There is no good deed that can come from any of Kerry's maneuvers,

[Ann]

Somebody, record this for blame at 1:25:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/07/05/msnbc-audience-cheers-judge-denying-motion-zimmerman-acquittal#ixzz2YEAiybyY

[narciso]

Ah, Air America TV, as I've dubbed it,a greater 'hive of scum and villainy' cannot be imagined,
yes, CNN is in the tank, but MSNBC actually hired Sharpton,

[narciso]

With the promotions for Pacific Rim, they reference the Kaiju, I didn't know that was the Japanese name for the whole class of monsters like Godzilla and Mothra,

[Threadkiller]

Hollywood Producer: Clinton Threatened Over Obama ID Fraud Issue; Bill Gwaltney Killed

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/07/hollywood-producer-obama-id-fraud.html?m=1

[daddy]

Kerry's Yachting has hit the Brit Papers.

The pictures that prove Secretary of State John Kerry HAS been out on his boat while Egypt plunges into chaos - after his spokesman denied he had been sailing in Nantucket

And recall this from Obama in 2010 after BP's CEO Tony Hayward was seen yachting during the Gulf Oil spill:

Obama wondered aloud in a television interview this month about "whose ass to kick" over the BP spill and said that if Hayward had worked for him, he would have fired him...Hayward also was widely criticized and quickly apologized for complaining he wanted his "life back"

[Dave (in MA)]

I'm shocked-- that Ed Schulz still has a show.

[daddy]

I'm shocked-- that Ed Schulz still has a show.

Dave,

If this AFN (Armed Forces Network) Radio schedule, broadcast to our troops overseas is correct, you and me are paying for it.

1 Hour of Ed Schultz, Monday to Friday, starting at 2106 hours.

[Captain Hate]

John Bolton sees NO one in the administration responding to the Egyptian situation.

Somebody must have not censored the Egyptian banners mocking Ear Leader.

[Jack is Back!]

The one advantage the defense sort of gained during the JOA hearing was to learn the States closing argument and hoe the will proceed on cross. But what really showed up is they basically have nothing but a "theory" and no hard evidence. Even their cicumstantial evidence is more emotionally based (my son's scream) or speculative (GZ the agressor).

MoM and team are working this weekend turning out round pegs to fit the holes Bernie and Jay Carney's lost twin left them.

[narciso]

Yes, but daddy, no audience really listens to Ed Schulz, it's like when Clear Channel spotted them
some bandwith, they still couldn't succeed with looting orphanages and the like

[narciso]

I imagine that was why they didn't do a SYG hearing, no need to telegraph their strategy.

[narciso]

Ah, TPaw's a flack for the financial services industry, hanging around Aspen, sharing Buds with Nate Silver, well 'its a living' like Daffy Duck used to say.

[Jack is Back!]

From FNS tweet

Tomorrow we have Sen Bob Corker and Sen Jack Reed on to talk about the latest on Edward Snowden and NSA leaks. Has your opinion changed on Snowden over the last few weeks? Tell us your thoughts!

I retweeted to them "what? McRino and Lindsey weren't available?

[narciso]

'Welcome to the party, too soon, Iowahawk would say;

Rules for lefties: saying the US military foster rape gets you tenure, saying Islam fosters rape gets you shunned http://twitchy.com/2013/07/05/joyce-carol-oates-suggests-radical-islam-fosters-rape-culture-gets-slammed-as-bigot/ …

[narciso]

I have to admit events in Egypt, made me whistful
for the land to our south:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/04/us-egypt-protests-ny-idUSBRE96304520130704

[narciso]

It seems it worked out for now;

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/07/06/israel-sees-chance-for-a-more-reliable-egypt-and-a-weaker-hamas/

[Danube on iPad]

I prefer "hinky dink" to "rinky dink," but that's just a personal choice.

[Captain Hate]

Meet the ROPers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23209181

[narciso]

'Bad Governance' he said this week, was the cause of this. well if it works for Altgeld Gardens;

[narciso]

This is what happens, when you forget 'the lesson of not being seen;

[Ignatz]

--and hoe the will proceed on cross--

I thought Corey was sitting this one out.

[Account Deleted]

Does Florida have a decent recall statute? If the jury acquits, the climate would be perfect for a recall of responsible parties. Nelson and Corey for incompetence in running a lynching, Bondi for appointing Corey and Scott for not insuring the competence of the lynch mob State's Injustice Department.

The Just Us for Trayvon crowd would be happy to circulate petitions during looting breaks.

[narciso]

I've never seen it used, Rick, then again, this is what the Minitrue coughed up like a furball;

[Jack is Back!]

Rick,

Another "blame Bush" moment. Jeb appointed Nelson to the 18th circuit.

You can also blame Texas since she got her lae degree their. A double whammy:)

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