Obama, Keystone Economist

Barack Obama remains confident that when the government spends money to put people to work, jobs are created or saved. However, when asked about the Keystone project he is adamant that hiring people to build a pipeline won't create jobs. Let's cut to the Keystone EKonomist, from a July 24 NY Times interview:

NYT: A couple other quick subjects that are economic-related. Keystone pipeline -- Republicans especially talk about that as a big job creator. You've said that you would approve it only if you could be assured it would not significantly exacerbate the problem of carbon in the atmosphere. Is there anything that Canada could do or the oil companies could do to offset that as a way of helping you to reach that decision?

MR. OBAMA: Well, first of all, Michael, Republicans have said that this would be a big jobs generator. There is no evidence that that’s true. And my hope would be that any reporter who is looking at the facts would take the time to confirm that the most realistic estimates are this might create maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline -- which might take a year or two -- and then after that we’re talking about somewhere between 50 and 100 [chuckles] jobs in a economy of 150 million working people.

NYT: Yet there are a number of unions who want you to approve this.

MR. OBAMA: Well, look, they might like to see 2,000 jobs initially. But that is a blip relative to the need.

Well, that won't be a blip to the people actually hired. But where is he getting his numbers, an intrepid reporter (but not our Jackie Calmes of the Times) will wonder. The State Department review of the Keystone project says this:

Construction of the proposed Project would generate temporary, positive socioeconomic impacts as a result of local employment, taxes, spending by construction workers, and spending on construction goods and services. Including direct, indirect, and induced effects, the proposed Project would potentially support approximately 42,100 average annual jobs across the United States over a 1 to 2 year construction period (of which, approximately 3,900 would be directly employed in construction activities).

So construction jobs are temporary - who knew? But 42,100 jobs seems like a lot more than 2,000. Is that still a blip, or is this Kerry/Clinton work product unreliable?

Maybe the anti-Keystone Cornell University Global Labor Institute can bail Obama out. This is from "Pipe Dreams?". Their approach, which Obama would defend vigorously in the context of increased government spending, is that spending money leads to jobs based on a predictable multiplier.

Thus, the incremental US spending associated with KXL project construction is only about $3 to $4 billion. Given a multiplier of 11 person-years per $1 million, this translates into total employment impacts of 33,000 to 44,000 person-years.

So a reasonable estimate of the total incremental US jobs from KXL construction is about one-third of the figure estimated in the Perryman study and used by industry to advocate for the construction of KXL. Moreover, any job impacts associated with KXL construction would be spread over 2 and more likely 3 years.

So the annual impacts are at most about 22,000 person-years of employment per year, for two years. But the annual impacts could also be as low as 11,000 person-years per year, for three years.

Wow, "as low as" only 11,000 jobs. Yet another blip? And still more than five times the figure Obama cited. The Cornell GLI goes on with a parade of horribles each of which might also cost jobs (higher gasoline prices, prized in other contexts, are now a jobs killer; oil spill clean-ups create jobs, as they note, but cost jobs elsewhere). However, none of that is quantified to a net final jobs estimate, unless my tired eyes deceive. And one wonders - will there really be a lot of oil spills during the construction phase? I would have thought that until the pipe is completed there won't be any oil spills, which means those prospective job-destroyers are further down the road.

I encourage eager reporters to track down the source of Obama's latest Keystone fantasy. I am leaning towards The Daily Kos but the Huffington Post is surely a contender.

UPDATE: From WaPo coverage:

While the White House could not say late Saturday what analysis Obama is basing his 2,000 jobs estimate on, it appears he was referring to the low-end estimate of a study done by the Cornell University Global Labor Institute. That analysis, which uses TransCanada’s own estimates, assumes that each segment of the pipeline requires about 500 workers per segment.

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Before the project was divided TransCanada estimated it would create 3,500 direct jobs for a two-year period, after which point about 35 workers would operate the pipeline. Backers of the pipeline say it could create anywhere from 20,000 to 100,000 jobs when spinoff jobs are taken to into account, while the Cornell study suggested any jobs stemming from the pipeline’s construction could be outweighed by the environmental damage it caused, along with a possible rise in Midwest gasoline prices.

So that would be only the direct construction jobs, without counting any jobs created or saved in support of those workers.

As to permanent jobs well, to be fair, the Barack Obama Library will probably create more than fifty eternal jobs. Geez, there will be at least fifty full-time positions in the "Speeches I Gave That Changed America And The World" wing. If they work out the health care coverage.

Comments

[Danube on iPad]

And of course, the completed pipeline will deliver a vital, economy-sustaining resource more cheaply and efficiently than would otherwise be the case. But this dolt doesn't grasp that.

[Jeff Dobbs]

You don't think he understands that, DoT?

I think that's primarily why he's against it. Last thing Obama wants is cheaper access to oil.

Cheap oil makes "renewable energy" even less economically viable than it is at current oil prices.

He wants electricity prices to skyrocket. He wants gas prices to go up -- just not so quickly as they did in 2008. His energy secretary mused about needing gas prices to be as high here as they are in Europe.

Hell, in 2008 he spoke of the Tyranny of Oil as being on par with the Tyranny of Fascism in the 20th century.

He's not concerned by the lack of jobs or the direct environmental (non-)impact. He's concerned exactly that the pipeline will make oil more affordable and help extend its dominance in the energy market.

[Landru]

This is just the typical "all or nothing' dismissal you see all the time. Oh, well that spending is only $500 million, which is just a drop in the bucket of the entire budget, so why even look at it? Oh, that's just a couple thousand jobs, which is nothing compared to the millions that are needed.

Imagine this mentality in your personal life, trying to cut back on a couple hundred a month in expenses. Ah, that movie channel is only $10 a month and I need $200, so forget it. Where can I find $200 in one shot?

[Jeff Dobbs]

Landru:
Oh, well that spending is only $500 million, which is just a drop in the bucket of the entire budget, so why even look at it?

Yup. And remember that in the 2008 campaign, Obama derided McCain for wanting to take a sledgehammer to the budget, when cool, calm, erudite Obama said he would use a scalpel to go line by line in the budget to eliminate waste fraud and abuse to rid us of that nasty Bush deficit.

Ah, that movie channel is only $10 a month and I need $200, so forget it. Where can I find $200 in one shot?

But that's not even it.

When faced with a $1.6T budget deficit, the Dems proposed $10.5B in cuts. When Republicans said that wasn't going far enough, the Dems began weeping and gnashing teeth and rending garments because Republicans were trying to balance the budget cut more than the Dems.

The Democrats proclaimed that cutting $10 a month on a movie channel was sufficient to cover the $200 monthly problem.

While they hit their limit on their sixth credit card last month, it seems they keep getting approved for a new one, so what's the problem?

[rse]

Tom-

I think this post goes much better with a list of sponsors.

http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitute/sponsors/index.html

I especially liked the Rosa Luxemberg Institute. No tainted info from there.

[Ignatz]

It's hard to decide whether Barry's fathomless ignorance or unlimited duplicity is more disturbing and harmful.

[Frau Argwohn]

The US just doesn't *deserve* to be as self-reliant as she could be.

Thus spake The All-powerful Preezy.

[Frau Argwohn]

To paraphrase James Thurber, "I say it's Democrats and I say to hell with 'em."

[Frau Argwohn]

rse, is there a Rosa Luxemberg Middle School yet?

[Captain Hate]

I often criticize Chris Wallace but he nailed Jack Lew with a Keystone question today and, when he replied with a "we're still studying it", retorted something which could be paraphrased by saying they're waiting for the result they want. I don't know how much credit Wallace deserves for such an obvious and deserving target; but I'll salute him for at least doing what a real reporter would do.

[Marlene]

Nothing says "parade of horribles like" 73 railroad cars filled with crude oil exploding in the middle of a little town. I realize Keystone is irrelevant to what happened in Quebec,but the refusal to build Keystone doesn't bode well for future energy projects.
Happy Anniversary Ignatz!

[Marlene]

Darn..."parade of horribles"

[Frau Argwohn]

Iggy, the very best wishes for you and your bride. You are one lucky guy, but you've told us that many times. Love to you both.

[James D.]

Our President really does have contempt for basically everyone who isn't him, doesn't he?

How do the sycophants and hangers-on not see this? I don't get it. I swear, if they saw him putting the cyanide into the Kool-Aid, and laughing about it as he passed around the cups, they'd drink it happily.

[Threadkiller]

George Will made an observation on ABC's This Week Sunday that shouldn't have evoked laughter from his fellow panelists and host."If these two people, [Mayor Bob] Filner in San Diego and [Anthony] Weiner here, were Republicans, this would be a part of a lot of somber sociology in the media about the Republican war on women"

The reaction:

http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/07/28/will-if-weiner-and-filner-were-republicans-media-would-tie-them-repub

[narciso]

You're talking about Carlos Slim's dancing chimps, I would lean toward Puffington Host, nothing like Humble Oil money to tell us how ridiculous low energy prices are.

[Porchlight]

A very happy anniversary to the Ignatzes. Enjoy!

[Danube on iPad]

Congratulations to to you both, Iggy.

[Neo]

US singer-songwriter JJ Cale has died of heart attack at the age of 74.

An announcement on his personal website said he had passed away at a hospital in La Jolla, California, on Friday.

Born in Oklahoma, Cale helped create the Tulsa Sound, which combined blues, rockabilly, and country. He became famous in 1970, when Eric Clapton covered his song After Midnight.

[Thomas Collins]

Happy anniversary to Ignatz and his better half.

[Ignatz]

Here's the anniversary girl a few years ago at one of our favorite inns.

That's about as much as I can show without getting a sock on the arm, and even then it's a little dicey. :)

[boris]

RIP JJ.

My group does "Cajun Moon".

[clarice]

She's gonna kill you, Iggy. You'll be missed here.

[Cecil Turner]

Well, it looks to me like they took that 2,500-4,650 jobs estimate from then (ridiculously biased) Cornell study, adopted the lower figure, and rounded down. Stunningly dishonest, but about par for this crew.

If we had a fourth estate worthy of the name, they'd be fact-checked to ignominious ruin. (About as likely as getting run over by a unicorn stampede . . .)

[James D.]

Happy anniversery, Ignatz! And of course to Mrs. ignatz!

[narciso]

They are the unicorn stampede, Cecil.

[daddy]

Good Morning.

Roadtrip! Yesterday we launched at noon on a straight line shot to the island of Guam---distance 4,071 miles according to the box. I hadn't done that route before, so there was lots of beautiful new stuff to look at. They routed us south west down the Cook Inlet, just abeam the Redoubt, Iliamna and Augustine volcanos,
then directly over Lake Iliamna and on down the Aleutian Peninsula.

We could see everything very clearly until the fog rolled in over Dutch Harbor, just at the southwest tip of this photo, and then it was nothing but ocean for the next 8 hours, so I knocked off about 200 pages of Patrick O'Brian's The Mauritius Command. (Thanks so much to you guys for steering me to those great reads!)

BTW, Dutch Harbor, according to a report I heard on the news yesterday, is the site of the longest continually inhabited Indian village in the new world---reaching back 9,000 years. Apparently there were many villages until the Jap's bombed the place in 1942, forcing evac of many of the villages to Eastern Alaska, and many Natives never went back.

Anyhow, the next bit of turf we spotted, was Saipan, followed by Tinian, about 3,900 miles on down the road.

From 38,000 feet their coastal aquamarine colors, slightly different from the ocean, are amazing, and it was easy to spot their golf courses and airfields etc, and sadly it did not look to me like they had much use for our $80 Million dollar Icebreaking Ferryboat:(

Anyhow, since we were only a bit more that 100 miles from Guam at this point. we enjoyed a beautiful long descent over a few more tiny islands, then made a long left loop and landed at Guam.

Mai Tai's capped the evening.

[Ignatz]

Probably not something to mention on an anniversary but I happened upon a little known tidbit (to me anyway) the other day that you can get a divorce in Guam in seven days.

[Ignatz's psychiatrist]

THAT isn't his wife, you retards. That lecherous, creepy and dirty old pedophile doesn't even have a wife. You, collectively, are either the dumbest or the craziest cretins on this planet. In this solar system. Residue left behind after the Big Bang.

[Ignatz]

--She's gonna kill you, Iggy.--

No, no clarice. If you knew the serious cropping I did on that pic you'd recognize how grateful she'll be that I edited it.

Unless not, in which case it's been nice knowing you all.

[narciso]

You're still in deep kimche, as the saying goes.

[daddy]

I don't know the proposed length of the Keystone Pipeline, but if you look at our 800 mile long Alaskan Oil Pipeline, this story says that During the peak of construction, over 28,000 people were employed by Alyeska and its contractors. ,

and this story tells us The Trans-Alaska Pipeline is a four-foot-wide, 800.32-mile-long pipe, built by 70,000 individuals in a little more than two years between 1975 and 1977, costing $8 billion in private money.

Granted we have probably harsher conditions, but a simply
comparison would tell us that Obama's @ 2,000 number is total BS.

[narciso]

Pretty much, daddy, of course we don't see any pushback on Shear's part, because of the unmitigated and subtle evil of the Canadian Menace.

[henry]

YAY! US 1 - Panama 0. Second half.

[matt]

daddy!

Are you still upright???? Be careful how you walk because the whole island may tip over!

Virtually every day my opinion of the sleazebag in chief drops. He will sit with a reporter wgho doesn't dare to ask the follow on questions and simply lets hims tate his G.D. lies over and over again.

"but Mr. President, what about the jobs in refineries? in the plastics industry? in fertilizers? in biomedical? in pharmaceuticals?" Each of those industries benefits deeply from cheaper feedstocks.

"But Mr President, what about lower natural gas prices and the impact on the economy and economic stimulus?"

"But Mr. President, what about the reduced greenhouse gases emitted when using NG?"

The man is a traitor to the American people.

[daddy]

Well Matt,

I was walking a tad sideways after half a dozen Mai Tai's at the Treehouse Bar last night.

And either the presidents lying, or we Alaskans were awful damned stupid to have hired all those thousands and thousands of totally unnecessary Pipeline building construction workers when apparently we could have done the job with only 2,000 total.

[JIB]

daddy,

Spent 6 very different difficult months at Anderson back in 68. It is a love hate kind of deal since we were running sorties to every lefties favorite country. You know where Thomas Jefferson, if had kept his ideas to himself, we wouldn't have been spit on by Jane Fonda and her ilk.
If you have your DD-214 ex-Mil ID card with you go to the OC:) Best
Mai-Tais anywhere. Prepared specially for Buffer crews. Hey! Spend 23 hours in one seat you deserve a concussive cocktail.

[Danube on iPad]

That O Club is called the Top of the Narr. Spent one evening at the bar there drinking Scotch and playing ship, captain and crew in 1971.

[daddy]

JiB,

My co-pilot this trip and I were just saying last night that the best deal we knew of for Mai Tai's was at the Hale Koa Military Lodge in Honolulu. Last nights were not bad at all.

Happen to be this instant at breaky buffet at The Hilton, and am surrounded by many many US Army folk in fatigues, and the rest are Japanese Tourists. It's just after 8 in the morning and looks like another beautiful day.

[Army of Davids]

been accused of beating this into the ground...but when something matters this much it should be beat into the ground

Headwinds to Main Street business hiring from ObamaCare

- new regulatory compliance costs
- new taxes
- mandates
- implicit uncertainty
- higher healthcare costs

Business owners are slow to hire, hire part time or hire via temp agencies as they deal with the approach of ObamaCare. It gets worse as the implementation rolls out.

ObamaCare quite simply is the worst legislation in U.S. history

[daddy]

DoT,

Just showed my Co-pilot here at the Breaky table (a Hornet driver from Lemoore) the wiki article on your Grandaddy---Mighty impressed!

We'll probably tip a toast to him tonight at the Jet Lag in Narita.

[Army of Davids]

Daddy,

You are exactly right to look at the Alaskan pipeline as an example of potential jobs. Obama (as usual) is flat full of it.

When you look at the alternative routes for Canadian crude to come to market (and make no mistake.. it will come to market)...via rail, pipeline/shipping to China to be refined there....not approving Keystone is actually riskier for the environment and riskier from a safety standpoint.

[Frau Kommunismus verrecke!]

AoD - not much of a surprise considering the source. Keep flogging. Some need more than the usual three repeats to understand and remember the message.

[Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet]

Great pics, daddy. Last time I was in Guam was in October 1967 en route back to RVN from my wedding during my R%R in Honolulu. And I didn't tip it over either.

Happy Anniversary, Ig, all trolls to the contrary notwithstanding.

[Captain Hate]

Teh Forehead with a war on hairlines: http://twitchy.com/2013/07/28/war-on-women-feinstein-calls-on-filner-to-resign-ladies-man-paul-begala-praises-her-with-insult/

[JIB]

daddy,

Too bad you didn't get to Tarague Beach. Fabulous, at least back in the day. Palms all the way down to the high tide line. Who needs a beach umbrella.

The Keystone if built will generate more than a billion dollars in indirect revenue to the communities along the route and at least that to the material suppliers, equipment vendors and others supporting the line. Then there are at least 4,500 direct manual and non-manual jobs for a job this big. Sure they last 6 to 24 months but what they do is also encourage other projects. We call that the consequence of good decisions.

Obama is stupid and we all know that. He lies to protect his agenda of destroying our exceptionalism. He will do anything to make us 3rd world and so far he is succeeding.

[centralcal]

He will do anything to make us 3rd world and so far he is succeeding.

Not alone, though. The MFM hordes do a lot of the heavy lifting. It is not enough to curse B.O. - one must also curse his troopers.

[Army of Davids]

noted Frau

There are plenty of business owners dealing w/ ObamaCare that will point the roadblocks to hiring out. It just gets cursory mention from media/politicians/economists...if it gets mentioned at all.

Instead we get 24/7 Trayvon Martin divisiveness

It's why Obama can get away with saying something as asinine as his employment comments on Keystone. Too many beltway morons who worry more about their status in "The Town" then the actual problems that fester away on Main Street.

As long as everything is good in DC and on Wall Street what is the problem?

[daddy]

This story posted by the State of Alaska (Alaska.gov) describing the current proposal to build an 800 mile Natural Gas pipeline from the north Slope to south Central, says this on jobs:

The Alaska natural gas pipeline will be the largest private sector project in the history of the United States and when completed will provide eight percent of the U.S. natural gas supply. It is hard to conceive of projects on a similar scale. The best comparison might be the construction of the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System (TAPS), which created 28,000 jobs in Alaska as well as many more in the lower 48 states. The oil that came out of Prudhoe Bay was a catalyst that helped pull the nation out of that economic recession similar to the one we are currently experiencing. Once again, Alaska's abundant natural resources provide an opportunity to put our nation's economy back on its feet and put Americans back to work in well-paying jobs.

So at the same time that Obama says the Keystone Pipeline will only create 2,000 jobs, we're saying our Pipeline will create in the ballpark of 28,000 jobs.

Somebody's lying.

[MarkO]

"Somebody's lying.'

I'll take Obama for $500.

[Jim Miller]

One more detail: The Times does ask him about Canada and the pipeline: "Is there anything that Canada could do" (to help you reach that decision).

But President Obama doesn't answer that question, just refers to the carbon -- he should say carbon dioxide -- problems with the tar sands.

For me, the fact that one of our bestest friends, Canada, wants the project, should be a strong reason to go ahead with it, not a sufficient reason by itself, but a strong reason.

Apparently, this interview was just on domestic policy, but they still should have said something about relations with Canada, if they were going to discuss the Keystone XL pipeline.

[Extraneus]

Only idiots believe this carbon b.s. anymore, but does anyone - anyone? - ever ask him about the fact that global temperatures haven't risen in 15 years?

[Extraneus]

I'd be interested in his comments on that. After all, he once edited a very scientific thing.

The Obama-Tribe 'Curvature of Constitutional Space' Paper is Crackpot Physics.

(Anyone who has ever studied physics will know the guy who wrote that paper: Frank J. Tipler.)

[narciso]

OF course the Booman group, have possibly the stupidest take on the matter.

[narciso]

Instead they offer this thin gruel, that Codevilla presented much more effectively;

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/07/28/an-18th-century-strategy-for-the-21st-century-gop/

[JIB]

What I don't understand is who the hell are these white, obviously middle class, people standing behind Obama at all these events? Are they just a bunch of government employees applauding their continued long-term employment or are they just unemployed LIV's who have no health insurance?

[Gus]

When the GOVERNMENT creates jobs, the TAX PAYER pays for the job, the bennies, and the retirement.
When a private corp creates jobs, the taxpayer base grows.
When the government creates jobs, the tax TAKER base grows.

Pretty simple.

[Steve]

Full Video: The Pope at Rio - Mass and Angelus for the World Youth Day:

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/07/full-video-pope-at-rio-mass-and-angelus.html

[Janet --- -... .- -- .- ... ..- -.-. -.- ...]

Only idiots believe this carbon b.s. anymore, but does anyone - anyone? - ever ask him about the fact that global temperatures haven't risen in 15 years?

I know. It's maddening.
We need some people to go all "Newt" on some of the MFM reporters too. They don't know facts either.

[JIB]

Damn!

Bud Day is dead at 88

Any airman who ever serve in 'Nam knows the name and his heroism.

MOH winner and a true American patriot. Ask John "the fake" Kerry:)

[pagar]

Happy Anniversary, Ignatz and your lovely bride.

[narciso]

Ah, plagiarist, general all around hack, and idiot, but I repeat myself;

FAREED ZAKARIA, HOST: A lot of Israeli-Arabs tell me that to describe Israel as a Jewish state essentially renders them invisible. And they are, you know, 20 percent of the population by some counts. Israelis have a state, Palestinians have a state. Why is it important there’d be Jews? - See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=50275#comments

[narciso]

Ah JiB, sadly there are not enough of the likes of him, around;

[TexasIsHeaven]

For JIB at 7:40 pm

I have wondered about the same thing myself. A lot of times I see a group of fireman, or policeman , or a group of soldiers, and I figured they got a bunch of them together and made them stand behind Zero as props so as to make it look like he has lots of support from that particular group.

I think when we see "regular people" behind Zero on a platform they have been paid like they pay the rent-a-mobs. I would bet my bottom dollar they are being paid to do this. Why else would they be there?

Anyone with the sense God gave a goat can see what Zero has done to this country for the time he has been in office. And we still have three and a half years to go before we can even begin to repair the damage he has done - if it ever can be repaired.

[Frau Kommunismus verrecke!]

I move JOM authorizes daddy to find St. James.

[pagar]

One of America's Greatest Heroes is gone!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/american-hero-col-bud-day-passes-at-88-he-stood-for-america-against-john-kerry/

[Frau Kommunismus verrecke!]

Thanks, pagar at 9:09. While these two heroic men were being tested, Jon Carry was counting the rice kernels in his arm and packing his magic hat.

[Danube on iPad]

CNN:

"WASHINGTON - A weekend robbery in a racially diverse neighborhood of Washington may have been a hate crime, police said. 'This is for Trayvon Martin,' one of the three black men told a white man as they approached him early Saturday, according to Washington Metropolitan Police Officer Anthony Clay. The alleged robbery happened two weeks after a Florida jury acquitted George Zimmerman in the 2012 death of African-American teenager Trayvon Martin The men kicked the adult white male as they took his iPhone and wallet, Clay said Sunday."

From what we know, we might well assume that Trayvon would be proud.

[narciso]

Hence the tribute at 8:47, Col. Day, as per Thiessen, was one who pushed back against 'waterboarding is torture' foolishness.

[narciso]

'Well from a 'certain point of view';

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/313935-marion-barry-weiner-a-good-democrat

he's also in the forefront of the campaign to drive Walmart out of D.C,

[NKonIPad]

Happy anniversary Mr. And Mrs. Ignatz, and many, many more together.

[Army of Davids]

"This is for Trayvon"

Thank Sharpton, Jerkson, Obama, Holder, media/democratic operatives for stirring the racial division in this country on a case that never was about race.

What a pathetic crew

[Army of Davids]

Gus said:

"When the GOVERNMENT creates jobs, the TAX PAYER pays for the job, the bennies, and the retirement.
When a private corp creates jobs, the taxpayer base grows.
When the government creates jobs, the tax TAKER base grows.

Pretty simple."

yes it is...amazing how selfish desire to live at the expense of others weakens and sometimes kills human potential,ingenuity and quality of life.

[extraneus's and ignatz's psychiatrist]

Posted by: Extraneus | July 28, 2013 at 07:20 PM

Even if that was true, which it isn't, and changes in the earth's temperature can be attributed to combinations of other factors, such as ocean currents, shifts of tectonic plates and a shift of this planet's axis, we can still rely on the fact that your ideas will always be loopy. That's comforting,

[jimmyk]

I dare anyone to watch this video and not choke up. Do you think this guy (or his parents) would ever demand special privileges or act like the world owes him something?

(via Tim Blair and Iowahawk)

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/big_feat/

[2_cathy_f_typepad_sucks_666]

From what we know, we might well assume that Trayvon would be proud.

You know, I'm becoming less and less willing to believe that the "justice for Trayvon" crowd is just stupid/ignorant. I think that a lot of them have some sort of idea that every time some black thug gets away with maiming or killing a white or asian or hispanic (or white-hispanic) person, that this is some sort of balance for the KKK lynching somebody decades ago. (Even though the KKK lynched asians, hispanics, and white Catholics with as much enthusiasm as blacks).

Given this attitude, I think that what they really ARE outraged about is that Martin was thwarted in giving Zimmerman an "a**-whoopin". He should have just died, or spent the rest of his life a drooling vegetable. Because thugs are dreamy and exotic and how dare some decent person get in a thug's way?

[Agent J]

jimmyk | July 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Wow I just posted to face book..Thanks made my week..

[Eric in Boise]

I would bet my bottom dollar they are being paid to do this. Why else would they be there?

Because as you said, they don't have the sense God gave a goat. And unfortunately, we're up to our eyeballs with these idiots, and our leadership reflects this.

[Here we go loop-de-loo.]

The Psycho @ 10:07 doesn't know his temperature series from a can of Shinola. I'll bet he's out there about ocean currents, shifts of tectonic plates, and axis shifts, too.
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[Ignatz]

--I think that a lot of them have some sort of idea that every time some black thug gets away with maiming or killing a white or asian or hispanic (or white-hispanic) person, that this is some sort of balance for the KKK lynching somebody decades ago.--

Sure they do.
One of the most powerful motivators is a grievance and what have the race-baiters and hustlers been promoting for decades except that?
Once you have a grievance to nurse the fragile human mind with its natural self pity reflex is hard put to think of anything those responsible for their supposed injury don't deserve.
It's similarly hard put to imagine any flaw or weakness on their part not caused by the "man".

Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, Obama and the rest of these idiot race hustlers and their lilly white enablers are doing to blacks as a whole what the KKK only wished it could.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Ig:
Once you have a grievance to nurse the fragile human mind with its natural self pity reflex is hard put to think of anything those responsible for their supposed injury don't deserve.

It's almost enough to make one feel sorry for Anne.

[JIB]

George Will says Anthony Weiner is what New York liberalism coughs up.

Well they also can cough up a guy like Shulan.

This is sickening mindset.

[Steve]

Happy 70th Birthday Mick Jagger!

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/07/still-rocking-happy-70th-birthday-mick.html

[JIB]

Did anyone go to Verge and watch the largest space battle in history?

And Hollywood wonders why they are losing audience:)

[Pops]

Obamas point is valid in his eyes. Keystone would generate PRIVATE SECTOR jobs. Those aren't real jobs that contribute to growth of the federal government. A real job is when the government hires someone. You simply have to understand his point of view.

[steve]

You're forgetting to factor in Obama's 'If I wanted it' multiplier...

In simple, a project that Obama wants produces jobs at a huge multiple compared to jobs created from projects Obama doesn't want.

While the exact multiplier is hard to pin down, some have said that it is as high as 1,000.

[Gaze out the window at the clouds.]

I guess the 10:07 Psycho has his nose in a climate book.
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[centralcal]

From Scott Johnson of Powerline, writing about his arrival in Amsterdam comes word of our intrepid JOM gals:

Heading over to pick up our luggage when we arrived this morning, Carol of Park City, Utah stopped us to say hello. Carol had been on the flight from Minneapolis with us and said her friend Jane of Boston, Mass. had texted her to let her know that we would be on the cruise. We met up with Jane at the baggage carousel. Carol and Jane are traveling together on the NR cruise. This will be their seventh time around on a National Review cruise and I gather it will be a form of group therapy for all of us. I certainly feel better already.

[Jane on Ipad hi there NSA]

You sure do have long nights in the US. While you were sleeping we have seen 857,462.2 bicycles, walked 10 miles, met one person we know, had 2 beers and saw a 70 year old man wearing a mini skirt.

So there.

[Extraneus]

The Food Assistance National Input-Output Multiplier (FANIOM) Model and Stimulus Effects of SNAP

FANIOM’s GDP multiplier of 1.79 for SNAP benefits is comparable with multipliers from some macroeconomic models.

Now that's is economics. Why, if we simply spent another couple o' trillion a year on this, the entire deficit could be wiped out!

There are dozens of stories based on such models.

NPR: Can Expanding Food Stamps Jolt The Economy?

Portland Observer: Expand Food Stamp Program, Don’t Shrink It!

Etc., etc.

[Extraneus]

"Being well fed is good for the economy."

[Over 2 U, troll.]

Well, now that the 'nonsensus' in climate science is being forced to recognize the 'pause' in global warming, all Hell has broken loose trying to explain it away or somehow make it consistent with catastrophic scenario. Some argue over whether it is 15, 16, or 17 years, and whether or not the length of the pause is meaningful. Some try to blame Chinese aerosols or claim the 'missing heat' is hiding in the deep ocean.

As it has to do with albedo, and because our knowledge of the effect of the last centuries aerosols is poor, they are a very convenient fudge factor for the Global Climate Models to maintain the fiction that CO2 is a control knob on the climate. As to the 'missing heat', it may be down there, but the ARGO float system adequately monitors the first mile or so of the ocean and it did not detect transport of the heat to the deeper ocean. The other main alternative for the 'missing heat' is that it has already been re-radiated out to space. That would mean that CO2 is not acting as the climate science 'nonsensus' has had it over the last couple of decades.

That's of course, what I believe, that over the last decade and a half there has been more cloud cover and the higher albedo radiated the 'missing heat' out already.

Breaking news in the climate wars is further proof that the complex GCMs have invented a catastrophe out of thin air. Steve McIntyre has found a climate model from 1938 by Guy Callendar which better projects current temperatures than the supercomputers in use today.

The GCMs have failed; they have water vapor positive feedback too high and probably have the wrong sign on the cloud feedback.

Those on the strong horses watch Obama beating his dead mount.
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[Ignatz]

--NPR: Can Expanding Food Stamps Jolt The Economy?

Portland Observer: Expand Food Stamp Program, Don’t Shrink It!--

I have no doubt there are lefties dumb enough to believe crap like this, but there are millions who aren't.

Is there any reasonable conclusion to come to other than they're evil liars intent on power at any cost and enslaving their fellow citizens either as captive cash cows or as wards of the state?

[Ignatz]

--Those on the strong horses watch Obama beating his dead mount.--

God, I hope he doesn't tweet it.

[Extraneus]

Is there any reasonable conclusion to come to other than they're evil liars intent on power at any cost and enslaving their fellow citizens either as captive cash cows or as wards of the state?

No.

[Don't take a cigar from Al Gore.]

With his views on climate and energy, Iggy, he is stroking his ego and that of his masters, too.

This fella Guy Callendar was a steam technologist, and meticulous. In those days it was necessary because boilers blew up and maimed and killed en masse. Now it is narratives that explode catastrophically.
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[Jeff Dobbs]

Some argue over whether it is 15, 16, or 17 years

"We're cooling folks; for how long even ======== doesn't know."

[Threadkiller]

There is on thing they would not lie about.

[Threadkiller]

...one...

[Just the day before I'd bragged that I steal all my stuff even if I don't know where it comes from.]

The real beauty of this Callendar thing is that the projected mild warming from AnthroCO2 would be overall beneficial, and this just now when light is dawning that the economic projections about 'global warming' over the last coupla decades have uniformly emphasized damages over benefits, of warming.

The personal irony for me is that I spent a day and a half guessing over the identity of this Guy, Steve ran a quiz, and his thought is fundamental to my own. I'd barely heard of the guy, and nothing of his work.

Never forget, the End of the Holocene is nigh. Deep ocean 'missing heat' can't come out until then.
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