Wednesday Afternoon Punt

Here we go again.

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[Account Deleted]

Do I have to wait until tomorrow to comment?

[narciso]

Ah one of those schemes, the credentialed morons excell at;

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/huds-new-fair-housing-rule-establishes-diversity-data-every-neighborhood-us

[narciso]

And we've learned to 'stop worrying and arm the Syrian rebels' there's no way that could go wrong.

[I R A Darth Aggie]

It's Wednesday somewhere...just not in this timezone, EST5EDT.

[Danube on iPad]

Good God--Weiner has done it again.

[NK]

Ranger posted this link and it's vitally important, so I'll re-post. Even the WaPo acknowledges that ObummerCare is unpopular-- and WaPo at best hopes that the 'Exchanges' change voters minds by 'action'. This is the last clear chance for opponents as well. The exchanges will FAIL on the economics-- they will require more taxpayer subsidies when they fail as a matter of economics. If the Repubs win the Senate, and control the budget, all the Repubs have to do is withold further subsidies from Exchanges and let them fail on their own. They aren't repealing ObummerCare, they will simply let it fail on its own. Obummer will have to sign that budget. To me that's the last clear chance to rid ourselves of the ObummerCare menace. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/07/23/moderate-democrats-are-quitting-on-obamacare/

[Marlene]

This is a feel good story...the woman who won the Powerball jackpot is a former resident of East Millinocket,Maine.She has offered to donate $2M to repair the roof on that town's high school.The woman has kept a low profile since winning,not making a public comment.She has upgraded from her rental unit in Zephyrhills to a $1.175M home in Glen Kernan Country Club in Jacksonville.

[NK]

Weiner's a sick bastard and his wife is a MB operative.

[Account Deleted]

"and WaPo at best hopes that the 'Exchanges' change voters minds by 'action'."

What is the mechanism by which "action" will restore the cuts in hours to avoid BOzocare? The WaPo needs to interview Baucus in order to achieve clarity regarding the extent of "best hopes" among political experts. "Quit or die in your sleep." is a decent summary of his probable reply.

[Thomas Collins]

See below for an article on Tony Weiner sexting after his resignation from Congress. In his statement Weiner claimed that, "This behavior is behind me." I sure hope photos of what is behind Tony W. don't appear!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/07/23/204878655/anthony-weiner-acknowledges-more-inappropriate-messages

[NK]

I think the Exchanges will be a disaster for people who are chucked out of employer plans into Exchanges and for Dems. Exchanges were never designed to 'work' they are just a fig leaf until Obummercare fails (and to buy off large employer opposition to obummerCare), so that the Dems could ram through Singlepayer. Of course, that was supposed to happen during Obama's second term with a Dem House/Senate. That's why Repubs winning the '14 Senate is vitally important. If Obummer has to actually implement Exchanges -- POLITICAL DISASTER for him and the Dems.

[NK]

What is more IMplausible?
1. Anthony Weiner after being bounced from Congress and running for NYC Mayor, sexts AGAIN? or

2. Huma being a MB agent hired to service Hillary! to gain intelligence?

I think (1) is more implausible-- and yet IT HAPPENED. Does that mean (2) is by definition also true?

[Account Deleted]

TC,

Perhaps Filthy Filner should relocate to NYC to provide a more diverse field of candidates? Weiner the wiener wagger seems a little stuck regarding perversity, Filthy's range seems more broad.

[Dave (in MA)]

What, Breitbart hacked him again?

[Some Guy]

I think Sanchez' "butt fumble" would be more appropriate

[Dave (in MA)]

That wasn't a punt.

[Extraneus]

Ugh...

That hurts, Dave.

Not as much as the coming season probably will, though.

[NK]

Jets 2013-- IMO over/under is 4 wins.

[centralcal]

I posted the Carlos Danger (Anthony Weiner) news when it broke on Twitter hours ago when everyone's eyes were glazed over from DOT and TK yammering away on birther stuff (the previous thread).

Now, please, try and keep up:

Emily Miller ‏@EmilyMiller 3m

A source just told me two more women coming out with recent sex texts from Anthony Weiner. It seems "sex rehab" didn't take.

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Can hardly wait to see what name(s) he used with these gals. /sarc

[Some Guy]

Ahh, my bad. I thought it was in reference to Weiner.

[Extraneus]

I'm thinking 6.

[narciso]

Well he had proven himself a weasel when he tried to put Goldline out of business,

[Captain Hate]

Weiner is just the latest example of the donks being dysfunctional trash.

[narciso]

It's not really metaphorically;

http://datechguyblog.com/2013/07/23/anthony-weiner-in-bed-with-politico/

[pagar]

"The exchanges will FAIL on the economics-- they will require more taxpayer subsidies when they fail as a matter of economicsThe exchanges will FAIL on the economics-"

Does anyone know any of these moderate Democrats the article is talking about?I don't see any names?

Once the Federal government starts signing the citizens up and than the exchanges fail, what happens to health insurance for those signees?

IMO, the failure of the exchanges and the resulting large groups of people with no healthcare insurance is exactly what the Democrats are hoping for. The health insurance business such a disaster that single payer is the only game left.
The only way to survive the Obamacare disaster is to kill it NOW.

[NK]

Pagar-- enacting SinglePayer was the Dem plan all along, Correct. but I believe the Dems believed they would have House/Senate control all through Obummer's 2nd Term, so they could enact SP with plausible lies -- they probably figured they could keep the exchanges going for 1-2 years with higher subsidies before enacting SP after 2014 elections. If Repubs control the House /Senate, they can torture Obummer with having to make the Exchanges actually "WORK" something they were never intended to do. PS: there is NO way to kill ObummerCare right now.

[Steve]

Detroit's Tragedy and How to Fix It

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/07/reason-tv-detroits-tragedy-and-how-to.html

[centralcal]

Today is Monica Lewinsky's 40th birthday.

Today is National Hot Dog Day.

Today Anthony Carlos Danger Weiner will hold a press conference in NYC at 5 pm. Alas, Breitbart will not be there (or, will he?)

[rse]

Rick-

Just saw your comment from the other thread. I think that if you look at a map of the metro area, you will see cobb, gwinnett, and fulton. Because they have banded together in EdLeader 21 leaving APS will no longer get you better instructional practices. APS is in the middle of the 90 mile long Fulton district, literally bisecting it. I think it will be merged. APS has spent a fortune buying the old IBM property along the Chattahoochee and turning it into a high rise high tech high that opens in a few weeks. The closest high school just over line in Fulton is splitting at seams in an old building and was moved down the list to get a new building just as soon as parents voted for an ESPLOST extension.

The new high has room for about 1000 more students than its previous enrollment. I think they are hoping for voluntary transfers first and then the merger. We will see. APS's admin overhead is so high it is more than $1000 a student, close to $2K. That's a jobs program with students as an excuse.

[daddy]

So Weiner's got a sex addiction.

Talking points to ensue from the Left in 3, 2, 1...

He's a victim.

Where's your compassion?

It's not his fault he's a super-creepy obnoxious pervert.

etc...

[Janet]

Amen, Captain.

Datechguy asks some good questions about Politico.

[Thomas Collins]

Rick, with the likes Filner, Teddy K., Spitzer and Weiner already in office, dead after having been in office for what seems like an eternity or running for office, I suppose David Paterson could qualify as a politician of moral rectitude (kept his clothes on while partying, sent no sext messages that made it to the public domain, had age appropriate affars, and didn't kill anyone).

[NK]

Politico stuff-- Media/Dems are on the SAME Leftwing team.

Poliico/Weiner are just more proof of that.

[[email protected]]

uh...good grief.

[jimmyk]

What is more IMplausible?
1. Anthony Weiner after being bounced from Congress and running for NYC Mayor, sexts AGAIN? or

2. Huma being a MB agent hired to service Hillary! to gain intelligence?

1 isn't implausible at all. Creeps don't change their behavior on a dime. You think Billy Jeff became a devoted and faithful husband after Monica?

Is there any actual evidence for 2?

[cathy_f]

IMO, the failure of the exchanges and the resulting large groups of people with no healthcare insurance is exactly what the Democrats are hoping for. The health insurance business such a disaster that single payer is the only game left. The only way to survive the Obamacare disaster is to kill it NOW.

YES! pagar.

The only real hope that I see is if Obamacare can be made to fail BEFORE the health insurance industry is destroyed. Some things that might help:

1) Defund the vast army of community organizers being formed to recruit people into the exchanges. If Obama tries to divert other funding, the states which still have sane governments need to go into full War-On-Identity-Thieves mode and continually arrest the community organizers. Groups of citizens need to be suing the community organizers for violating HIPPA rules.

2) States are the primary regulators of insurance companies doing business within their borders. States with functioning governments (Texas?) need to go into full-on protection mode for the business of insurance. Make it a felony under STATE law for people not to buy health insurance, and when people wait until they are sick and try to buy insurance, throw them into prison where they will get their medical care with the rest of the prisoners. A couple of examples will delightfully concentrate the minds of everyone else.

If we can keep a functioning insured and insurable risk pool in even a few states then maybe we have some chance of not going down the tubes. But of course understand that the IRS and NSA and the rest of the New Stasi will declare all out war on red state government.

[Marlene]

[email protected]:29,I thought the same thing about Breitbart.He'll be there in spirit.

[Rob Crawford]

kept his clothes on while partying, sent no sext messages that made it to the public domain, had age appropriate affars, and didn't kill anyone

See, for Democrats, those are all requirements.

[pagar]

NK, this guy says Congress can stop it.

"Congress should completely defund Obamacare by October, when the government next runs out of money"

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130721/NEWS08/130729979/1677
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"“If Republicans in both houses simply refuse to vote for any continuing resolution that contains further funding for further enforcement of ObamaCare, we can stop it. We can stop the individual mandate from going into effect,” he said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/312727-shutdown-looms-over-obamacare#ixzz2Zu7Cw3lN

I believe it could be stopped. I believe it should be stopped.

[[email protected]]

jimmyk-

what the hell is in the water up there? the election is turning into a freak show-

[NK]

The tactics of using the Failure of Exchanges to repeal ObummerCare can be debated, but the bottom line is Repub control of the Senate/House is vital, because the budget is the only mechanism to do the job.

[Porchlight]

So it looks like Weiner is claiming these messages are from his old bad Anthony period prior to cleaning up his act, or something.

[Rob Crawford]

So, via Insty and Althouse, the people George Zimmerman helped get clear of their car are worried that they'll be targeted by the lynch mob.

I'm now convinced that for many people, their biggest complaint about the KKK was they weren't allowed to join in.

[NK]

October ObummerCare defund? NOT gonna happen. Period.

[matt]

So "Carlos Danger" was out there twitting his junk 6 months after he resigned from Congress and promised he'd never do it again.

I'm loving the New York Mayor's race right now.

[James D.]

I haven't been able to get to Instapundit all day. is there a new address?

[narciso]

Well Goggles do nothing, at the second part, but clearly this has become a three ring circus.

[bgates]

Make it a felony under STATE law for people not to buy health insurance

Old plan: Republicans agree to enact every fascistic freedom-killing idea the Democrats imagine into federal law

New plan: Republicans agree to enact every fascistic freedom-killing idea the Democrats imagine into state law

[Janet]

Carlos Danger?? Good Lord.
How do these people keep showing up in public? I'm all for forgiveness, but at some point a person doesn't get to be in a leadership position ever again.

[centralcal]

It works for me, JamesD.
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

[Janet]

Looks like the NYT is gonna have to run another glowing article on how great ol' Weiner is...

I'd rather read about some random bum from NY than have to read anything about Weiner.

[Thomas Collins]

I don't know whether it would be more troubling if the NSA is lying through its teeth in the article linked below, or actually telling the truth.

http://www.propublica.org/article/nsa-says-it-cant-search-own-emails

[Dave (in MA)]

It worked for me too.

[Janet]

live feed for Weiner press conference - http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/52557293

hopefully someone will yell out "bu-bye pervert" again.

[Janet]

@Liberty92625 : I say don’t judge Anthony Weiner until you’ve walked a mile with his pants down around your ankles. #tcot #CarlosDanger

[Janet]

I guess that is a live feed...is he super late?

[Account Deleted]

"..is he super late?"

The rumor is that he's always very, very early.

[Janet]

What kind of earrings will MHP wear after this story?

[centralcal]

Yes, Janet - he's very late. The FNC live feed already blanked out! ha ha.

[Thomas Collins]

What's Tony W. going to say? He's a serial sexter. If he wins, even if he never sexts again (which is doubtful), these sexts will keep dribbling out.

[Porchlight]

Hahaha Rick and Janet!

Comment on FB: "It's National Hot Dog Day. Satire is officially dead."

[Porchlight]

Days like today, one really misses Andrew Breitbart.

[Danube on iPad]

I'm not sure how it will be determined how the exchanges have "failed." what seems likely to me is that millions of people who could get insurance from them won't do so until they are sick or injured, with the result that when they do get insurance it will be blamed on insurance companies, but the exchanges will still be there.

[Account Deleted]

"What's Tony W. going to say?"

"I've got nothing to hide and the pictures to prove it."

[JIB]

Huma doesn't look happy or even forgiving.

[Janet]

He's using his wife as a shield.

[Porchlight]

Huma learned from Rodham, of course. History repeats itself.

[cathy_f]

The key point to understand is that insurance REQUIRES quite specific sorts of laws and regulations in order to exist. If Obama by executive order refuses to enforce the laws that require insurance companies to pay the health bills of their premium-paying customers according to the contract between the insurance companies and the premium payers, then it is all over.

Most economic activity would sail on pretty much unaffected if there were no enforcement of contracts. When you are at the supermarket buying groceries, you wouldn't give them your money if they didn't give you your groceries. But insurance is different: you pay and pay and pay and pay in exchange for the PROMISE of getting your bills paid in the FUTURE and only IF you get sick -- you can't tell that you are not getting what you are paying for until your premium money is long gone.

The federal government has ALREADY messed up my contract with my insurance company. We have a contract that says that generics a $9/month and $18/quarter and brand names are $27/month and $54/quarter. Designed (obviously) to get me to use generics if I can and to buy my drugs every 3 months rather than month by month to reduce administrative costs. The Obama administration has voided both of those clauses when it comes to birth control -- they require the same price ($0) for generics and name brands, and the same price ($0) whether the insurance company has to issue checks to the pharmacy every month or every 3 months. Another example: WonderGirl goes to camp sessions that require a physical. It used to be that the physical counted against the deductible -- if we weren't over the deductible for her for the year, then we had to pay for the whole thing, and after that we had to pay 20%. The clinic charged $40 for a camp/sports physical. I just got the insurance form yesterday: Obamacare requires that my daughter get one physical per year for "free", so the 15-minute appointment where she remained fully clothed, and saw the LPN for about 5 minutes and the PA for about 5 minutes and the other 5 minutes was sitting alone in the room -- the insurance company has already sent the clinic over $200 for that.

We are on a speeding freight train to bankrupt all insurance companies to get us to single payer. They are going from all sides: destroying all of the hard-worn cost controls that have evolved over years and years. Taking the money of the premium payers and using it to pay for the health bills of people who didn't pay premiums, so there will be nothing left if I get sick, so there is no reason for me to continue to pay premiums. Siphoning off huge amounts of money to the crooks and community organizers and identity thieves. Setting up a New Stasi database so that they can deny me care.

[Dave (in MA)]

--
Jeffrey Goldberg @JeffreyGoldberg

On the other hand, a mayor named Carlos Danger probably doesn't give a shit how much Mountain Dew you drink.
--

[MarkO]

"Good God--Weiner has done it again."

Somehow it brings to mind the 1990's hit, "Detachable Penis."

I woke up this morning with a bad hangover
And my penis was missing again
This happens all the time
It's detachable

This comes in handy a lot of the time
I can leave it home when I think it's going to get me in trouble
Or I can rent it out when I don't need it

Read more: KING MISSILE - DETACHABLE PENIS LYRICS

[JIB]

In re: Wills + Kate+ Baby King = More tourist revenues.

As an American with a very British ancestry who has lived there I can attest that culturally the royal family is accepted as the face of Britain and it brings in big bucks (pounds) to the country. You take them out of the mix and tourism is cut in half.

That said, I think the acceptance and celebrity over here in America is basically a "chick" thing. The funny thing to me about male criticism of the royal family is that they don't want Charles to be King. And my response is, why the hell do you care, if you care less about the royal family?

We American's have rejected the monarchy as a form of government but not as a form of celebrity. Lets keep it that way.

[bgates]

Some people are going to use this scandal to try to portray all Democrats as sexual predators, but I don't think it's fair to lump them all in with Tony Weiner and Bob Filner and Eliot Spitzer and Tony Villaraigosa and John Edwards and Jim McGreevy and Eric Massa and Tim Mahoney and Mel Reynolds and Bill Clinton and Gary Condit and Gary Hart and Gerry Studs and Ted Kennedy and John Kennedy and....

[narciso]

Well do we know that for sure,

[Danube on iPad]

Obama couldn't do that, Cathy, because he doen't enforce insurance contracts in the first place, and has no power to do so. Contracts are enforceable in the courts, without the involvement of government at any level.

[rse]

cathy-that was a wonderful explanation.

These people are taking a wrecking ball to everything that works and using federal funds to conflict out a substantial number of the Red states and Red politicians.

[narciso]

They have an agenda, and they are relentless in pushing it;

http://twitchy.com/2013/07/23/bam-sarah-palin-dings-nancy-pelosi-for-promoting-culture-of-julias/

[MarkO]

bgates,

Are you saying the Weiner thing doesn't rise to that level?

[Dave (in MA)]

Studds would never have tweeted his junk to young ladies.

[MarkO]

Have we heard from the redoubtable Kirsten Powers?

[narciso]

I know what difference does it make?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/23/senate-committee-approves-promotion-for-author-of-benghazi-talking-points/

A hell of a difference, they went after Negroponte and Reich, twenty years larer.

[MarkO]

CNN Breaking News ‏

Huma Abedin on husband, Anthony Weiner: "I love him. I have forgiven him." http://on.cnn.com/1374x1J

Let's see how that goes when he's not mayor.

[Captain Hate]

Huma learned from Rodham, of course. History repeats itself.

A vast, right wing Zionist conspiracy?

[narciso]

So according to the Appeals Court, Obama will continue to be insulted, despite his promise.

[Captain Hate]

Sean didn't even have to use the dead intern card to get over on this RINO dimwit: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/22/sean-hannity-joe-scarborough-trade-barbs-over-trayvon-martins-alleged-drug-use/

[pagar]

From the You can't make this stuff up file.

http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/iowa-human-rights-commissioner-told-pastor-and-family-to-burn-in-hell/

[Stephanie]

And somewhere on facebook I saw this:

An anagram for "Carlos Danger" is "Cradles Organ".

[Stephanie]

Pinocchio, Snow White, and Superman are out for a stroll in town one day.
As they walk, they come across a sign:
"Beauty contest for the most beautiful woman in the world."

"I am entering" said Snow White. After half an hour she comes out and they
ask her, "Well, how'd ya do?
”First Place," said Snow White..

They continue walking and they see a sign:

"Contest for the strongest man in the world." "I'm entering," says Superman.
After half an hour he returns and they ask him, "How did you make out?"
”First Place," answers Superman. "Did you ever doubt?"

They continue walking when they see a sign: "Contest! Who is the greatest
liar in the world?" Pinocchio says "This is mine." Half an hour later, he returns
with tears in his eyes.
"What happened?" they asked.

"Who the heck is Obama?" he asked.

[Marlene]

[email protected]:51...well,Dunkin' Donuts has gone to a lot of trouble making a "Royal Munchkin" with pink,blue and white sprinkles. :) Have a safe trip back to Florida!

[Janet]

Oh my goodness, bgates! Your 5:52 is wonderful!!

[Jane -walk like an Egyptian]

I missed the whole Carlos Danger revelation (altho I may prefer "Cradles Organ"). HOw did it come out?

What a moron he is, and what an idiot his wife is.

[Frau Dinkelbrot]

DoT, what went wrong with the GMC bondholders? Was law upheld or not?

[Danube on iPad]

I don't remember, Frau.

[Account Deleted]

The Post went with Weiner Won't Pull Out. My pick would have been Weiner Still In.

[Stephanie]

Drudge has the title as

Erection Update: Weiner Still In

[cathy_f]

Obama couldn't do that, Cathy, because he doen't enforce insurance contracts in the first place, and has no power to do so. Contracts are enforceable in the courts, without the involvement of government at any level.

That is EXACTLY what HHS has done -- taken the perfectly reasonable contract between my family and the insurance company, which has perfectly reasonable cost-control features in it, and outlawed those contractual features. No state court can enforce the old outlawed contract because it is no longer in force.

[cathy_f]

So much for "if you like your health insurance, then you can keep it." It's already gone.

[Ignatz]

--That is EXACTLY what HHS has done --

Exactly. Our old plan was changed in three major ways, one of which was the old lifetime cap for benefits was removed and there is now none. Can't remember what the other two were off the top of my head but they are the main reason why we're paying 60% more in premiums than we were a couple of years ago.
Thanks Barry.

[cathy_f]

Actually the lifting of the lifetime cap on benefits shouldn't be raising the premiums much -- I would look at whatever the other two are.

(Fundamental way that value is created in insurance on both the premium-paying side and the benefit-paying side is that the benefit payer can diversify away the risk while the premium payer cannot. On the high-probability-low-cost side of the equation it's not insurance. For example all the people who've got high cholesterol they do a blood test every 6 months on all of them to check how the meds are working, that's not really insurance. It's the 1-in-10-million person who has $10 million dollars in claims where there is a huge profit on both sides. Collect $2 each from 10 million people, and you can provide $10 million in health care and have $10 million in profit... Through re-insurance you can end up with everybody in the same risk pool for the tiny-tiny-tiny probability huge-gigantic-enormous payout and make good money at it charging very low premiums.

Compare ONE person maxing out their policy after $10 million when they have $15 million in expenses. That's not where the money is bleeding out -- the money is in the 5 million women who decide that -- as long as it's "free" -- they will take the $180/month still-in-patent birth control pills rather than the $6/month generic birth control pills.)

[Danube on iPad]

"No state court can enforce the old outlawed contract because it is no longer in force."

That's true, but it's not the result of Obama deciding not to enforce contracts. It's the result of legislation prescribing what must and must not be included in contracts from now on. The blame should be focused on the legislators who enacted the statute, and the president who signed it into law.

[Danube on iPad]

So Jay-Z and Kanye West have a little ditty out entitled "Niggas in Paris."

Here's a modest proposal: let's begin our un-cowardly conversation about race in America by referring to the song by the name they have given it, and dispense with "N-words in Paris."