Fifty Shades Of Red

Has Syria crossed the Obama's "red line" and changed his "calculus" by using chemical weapons? No one knows, yet. But any day now, unless not.

SOOOO DERIVATIVE... If and when he revises his calculus, what will Obama do - ratchet up his handwringing a logarithm? Take a (stylistically but not scientifically) bold quantum step?

Comments

[NK]

Obummer called Sammie Powers and asked for advice... she was unavailable.

[Thomas Collins]

Neither Assad nor Imam Khameini take Sun Tzu Obama's comments on red lines (whether applicable to Syrian gas attacks or Iran's nuclear program) seriously. That's the price of electing to POTUS a man sublimely incapable of understanding how the international system works.

I take no comfort from Obama's lines (whether cocaine lines or red lines or otherwise). The only comfort I take in world affairs these days is the following remark attributed to Otto von Bismarck: "There is a providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children, and the United States of America.”

[Thomas Collins]

Neither Assad nor Imam Khameini take Sun Tzu Obama's comments on red lines (whether applicable to Syrian gas attacks or Iran's nuclear program) seriously. That's the price of electing to POTUS a man sublimely incapable of understanding how the international system works.

I take no comfort from Obama's lines (whether cocaine lines or red lines or otherwise). The only comfort I take in world affairs these days is the following remark attributed to Otto von Bismarck: "There is a providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children, and the United States of America.”

[NK]

One of the two Spokane thugs has been arrested.

[Jane]

This is interesting:

Leader of Al-Qaeda In The Arabian Peninsula Told Zawahiri He Would Carry Out An Attack That Would “Change The Face of History”…

WMD?

(Reuters) – A vow made in a phone call by the leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) to carry out an attack that would “change the face of history” lay behind this month’s closures of many Western embassies, Yemen’s president said.

In the first public disclosure by a government leader of details of the intercepted call that prompted the U.S. alert, President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi said AQAP head Nasser al-Wuhayshi made the pledge to al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahri on July 29.

Many U.S. and other Western diplomatic missions in the Middle East, Africa and Asia closed temporarily as a precaution.

Wuhayshi spoke by phone with Zawahri, who is believed to be based in Pakistan, while attending a meeting of 20 al Qaeda leaders in Yemen’s Maarib province, Hadi said.

“When I was in Washington, the Americans told us that they had intercepted a call between Ayman al-Zawahri and Wuhayshi, in which Wuhayshi told Zawahri that they would carry out an attack that would change the face of history,” the president told police cadets in remarks which state television aired on Friday.

[jimmyk]

One of the two Spokane thugs has been arrested.

Good. I don't suppose WA has the death penalty, but maybe that is too kind a punishment.

I was wondering why the death penalty isn't in play for the Oklahoma killers. I can't think of a more deserving bunch.

Also, while we're on the general subject, that taxi driver who cost the British tourist her leg may well be charged criminally, contrary to early reports. He wasn't charged immediately because they are investigating--interviewing witnesses, looking for security footage, etc.

[Threadkiller]

Press secretary Josh Earnest was asked by Fox News’ correspondent, Ed Henry, if President Barack Obama has a “red line” beyond which he would act against Muslim attacks on Egyptian Christians.

“Well, I didn’t bring my red pen out with me today,” Earnest joked.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/white-house-spokesman-jokes-about-islamic-attacks-on-christian-churches-in-egypt/

[NK]

The Josh Earnest POS is a particularly disgusting Obummer SpokesLiar.

[Account Deleted]

Could someone chalk out the equation which would have caused Assad to use chemical weapons in a Damascus suburb? Be sure to demonstrate why armor, artillery, air power and infantry would be insufficient to achieve the results obtained at Grozny.

[NK]

JimmyK-- the indespensible NYPost also reported that the 40yo bike messenger the cabbie hit is a piece of work, 10 arrests including an assault in April this year. So what those 2 idiots did before the cab slammed into the poor girl may be a bit confused and will have to be sorted out.

[jimmyk]

SOOOO DERIVATIVE...

Or is it integral?

I think the "quantum leap" term is ok scientifically, even though quanta are the tiniest possible amounts. It really means "discrete" as opposed to gradual or continuous. My $.02.

[NK]

RickB-- are you suggesting AQ-Syria would slaughter innocents?

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

Yes, NK; it appears he's guided by his first name to the exclusion of his last.

[Ignatz]

Rick, are you saying taqiyya might actually exist?

If it does, that even mean 'jihad' means something beyond 'peaceful inner journey'.

[jimmyk]

So what those 2 idiots did before the cab slammed into the poor girl may be a bit confused and will have to be sorted out.

My guess is they got into a bit of road rage (bicyclists are second only to people pushing babies in strollers in their sense of entitlement), and that ended up with the cabbie losing his cool. But the cabbie has a record of accidents and other infractions.

[Ignatz]

...that *might* even mean.....

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

Some bike rider felt momentarily entitled to make a left turn in front of my oncoming car before at least 2,000 unbraked reasons made him see the perils of that course of action.

[Beasts of England]

Extrapolating from past performance at everything else, I predict that Obama will handle this situation with a quiet, dignified efficiency.

[Account Deleted]

NK,

I lean towards an Achmed B. Demille, Paliwood production involving clearing the neighborhood and purchasing corpses (ala Green Helmet). They wouldn't have to kill very many extras to get the right visuals.

[peter]

Ah, those distant days of 2008, when Andy Sullivan's crush on JEF was in full blossom

[Ignatz]

Well, the latest map indicates, this;

and this;

now look like this:

[Rob Crawford]

Could someone chalk out the equation which would have caused Assad to use chemical weapons in a Damascus suburb?

What makes you think Assad made the decision?

Before 2001, US policy was that a WMD was a WMD was a WMD -- a chemical or biological attack was no different than a nuclear attack, and would be met in kind.

Then the feds let the jihadis get away with the anthrax attack, playing the ridiculous "disgruntled US scientist" card while ignoring all the evidence to the contrary.

Now the JEF declared a "red line" and a year later has it thrown in his face.

The JEF's determination to do nothing "upsetting" to his beloved Muslim Brotherhood will end with a US city being attacked by nerve gas or a bio weapon. The "go for it; we're toothless!" signal couldn't be clearer if the JEF stood in front of the White House, dropped trou', spread cheeks, and started screaming "OPEN FOR BUSINESS!!!"

[matt]

Do they pick WH press jackholes by their names these days? Jay Carney? Josh Earnest? What next? Billy Liar?

Nerve gas is a funny weapon but the Arabs seem to be pretty good at it these days. Saddam and his WW I re-enactments on the Iranian front and against the Kurds.

The UN said they would send envoys. What they need is a NEST team.I have to believe the military has these ready to go in an instant. The conclusions would be incontrovertible. Except that The Euros and Obama really don't want to go down that path. There be dragons.

In Lebanon, it looks like Hezbollah carried out their promise to retaliate against the Beirut bombers by blowing up 2 mosques and killing even more civilians.

Wuhayshi scares the dickens out of the West's intelligence services with a phone call.

Our UN Ambassador is not reporting for duty just yet in the middle of a crisis.

I don't want to say "how could it get more f'ed up?" because I know how it can.

[NK]

matt@12:51 sums up where Obummer has 'led' us.

[rich@gmu]

matt-

What they need is a NEST team...

hummm Benghazi. maybe the administration wanted to clean up a chemical weapons fuck up and oops it was a bit too late.

Wonder how the media would cover something like that up?

[rich@gmu]

is typepad putting me in the penalty box?

[Danube of Thought]

Oklahoma does not have the death penalty for people under 18 years old.

[NK]

Okla law-- wisely IMO-- avoids an ACLU cruel and unusual lawsuit.

[Rob Crawford]

Wonder how the media would cover something like that up?

Blame a cheap YouTube video and swarm the arrest of the petty felon who made it?

[Thomas Collins]

Neither Assad nor Imam Khameini take Sun Tzu Obama's comments on red lines (whether applicable to Syrian gas attacks or Iran's nuclear program) seriously. That's the price of electing to POTUS a man sublimely incapable of understanding how the international system works.

I take no comfort from Obama's lines (whether cocaine lines or red lines or otherwise). The only comfort I take in world affairs these days is the following remark attributed to Otto von Bismarck: "There is a providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children, and the United States of America.”

[jimmyk]

Oklahoma does not have the death penalty for people under 18 years old.

Ok, I didn't know if "tried as an adult" supersedes that, but obviously not. Too bad. The taxpayers will be on the hook for these monsters for decades.

[rich@gmu]

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Oklahoma does not have the death penalty for people under 18 years old
****

A few years back the Supreme Court overturned the death penalty for offenders under the age of 18 as cruel and unusual. IIRC it was an OK case that overturned it. It was one of the reason why Lee Boyd Malvo was not given the death penalty.

[glasater]

WA state has the death penalty we just don't hang the killers anymore...
And definitely not for underage monsters.

Jim Miller can provide background.

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

Nidal Hasan guilty of all counts of murder.

[Jane]

Hassan guilty on all 45 counts. The consequence of workplace violence.

[Danube on iPad]

The Supreme Court case Rich is referring to was Roper v. Simmons (2005); it was in Missouri.

[rich@gmu]

it was Roper v. Simmons a MO case actually from 2005 which vacated the death sentences of 73 juvenile offenders over the age of 16 at the time their crime was committed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62584-2005Mar1.html

[rich@gmu]

it was Roper v. Simmons a MO case actually from 2005 which vacated the death sentences of 73 juvenile offenders over the age of 16 at the time their crime was committed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62584-2005Mar1.html

[rich@gmu]

a double post will show up in about 10 minutes.

[mister mister]

9/11 didn't change the face of History?

Chalk it up to their penchant for extravagant rhetoric without much behind it.

"We will incinerate your culture a thousand times a thousand"

yawn...

[NK]

Did Okla have no ,18yo death penalty prior to 2005? or did Okla amend its statute after Roper?

[Threadkiller]

Unbelievable! Obamacare Navigators now being hired to have access to all of your vital identity information without the benefit of any background checks and almost no training. No surprise when you consider that the occupant of the white house has his own identity issues.

http://youtu.be/UzhfprpQ1kk

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/video-obama-stole-his-identity.html

Don't get stuck on loony. It is a good video.

[Threadkiller]

Locked on loony?

[jimmyk]

Thanks, rich and DoT, I'd forgotten about that case. Now looking at it, it was 5-4 decision, with Kennedy joining the libs, Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist, and O'Connor dissenting. And there's this, from wiki: "The Court also looked to practices in other countries to support the holding." Arghh!

[Clarice]

Rick, Bernard Baars thinks it's Paliwood, too. I am not seeing signs of rictus in the "corpses" and it's bloody hot there so decomposition would be swift, I assume.

Do you suppose the Aq deep thinkers have finally caught on that we are listening? If so, wouldn't it be great if they could disrupt traffic and cause us enormous expensie by pretending that big things are going to break any minute?

In any event I am now persuaded our FBi is a Keystone Kops operation and even if the threats are real, they can't go must and TSA is too busy feeling up the diapers of dying passengers to catch anything.

[Clarice]

*can't DO MUCH*

[peter]

very troubling according to Carlos Slim's Dancing chimps is that in order for there to be an execution in the Hasan case, there must be Presidential approval of the penalty. So the ditherer in chief will keep Hasan alive regardless of what the jury does in the penalty phase.

[Ignatz]

--yawn...--

Yeah, the Persians and the Byzantines and the inhabitants of Iberia yawned at those hyperbolic musselmen too.

[mister mister]

A barking dog doesn't bite. (talkers, not doers)

[NK]

"talkers not doers"... my next door neighbor whose husband was murdered on 9/11 along with almost 3000 other innocents may have a different view, the families of the victims of hassan's mass murderer may have a different view, daniel pearl's family may have a different view, the russian school children's families may have a different view, and on, and on, and on... Jihad is a murder cult in deeds, not just word.

[mister mister]

Exactly. Worry when they stop jabbering. Ask the 'Dancing Israelis"

[Gmax]

I predict that Obama will handle this situation with a quiet, dignified efficiency.

Yeah, I think he will sit on his bony worthless @ss too, and maybe wring his hands and rend his garments for effect, fully expected the adoring media to swoon at the bravery of it all.

[daddy]

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 10m

POTUS tells CNN that some in GOP tell him privately they agree with him but are fearful of Tea Party & Rush Limbaugh if they declare it.

Very late and just a quick one. Caught a bit of this on Rush this morning.

My question: After Obama said that he had Repub's coming up and saying that they secretly agree with him but can't do anything due to election pressure, did the questioner then use that to bring up "Tell Vlad that I'll be more flexible after the election."

Well of course not, but why not? That would have been the perfect moment to ask if it was exactly similar Mr President, and BTW what exactly did you mean by being more flexible when you said it, and can you tell us how you have followed through on your "More Flexible promise to Putin" as perhaps it might give us insight into what you are saying about these unnamed Republicans.

Library run!!! Later.

James D, I'll see if Dream Student has hit Alaska yet. Tomorrow night we've got Bill Maher and Bill Cosby in town for a show, so why not one of your books. BTW, we just got voted the state with the lousiest food, and the headliner band at our State Fair this year is Foreigner. Yes sir, that'll pack 'em in.

[daddy]

I predict that Obama will handle this situation with a quiet, dignified efficiency.

TV just had him on and the ticker beneath said Obama said "Grave Concern." I think "Grave Concern" beats "quiet dignified efficiency," hands down. I just hope he doesn't start carrying himself with "the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete." That's when we'll know he really means business.

[Rob Crawford]

Fake or not, a weak response will be used against us.

We should either FORCIBLY expose it as a fake, or FORCIBLY react by bombing every site we have intel indicating it's a WMD depot, regardless of which side holds it at the moment.

(The only way we should supply either side with weapons is if something we drop fails to detonate.)

[rich@gmu]

daddy-

Foreigner..heh..

[rich@gmu]

After Obama said that he had Repub's coming up and saying that they secretly agree

He's been saying this in speeches for a while. IIRC, MyFriends doesn't make it much of a secret.

maybe I can double post this as well.

[Jane -May2014 Be there or Be Square]

So the Benghazi investigators are coming home, despite the fact that they know the people are who did the attack (and the journalists have them on speed dial).

[NK]

Obummer language-- he found the fact that hundreds of Syrians had be gassed* to death "troublesome"... troublesome?... almost as good as JJSr's shooting innocents in the back is 'frowned upon." Effin' idiots.

*apparently

[rich@gmu]

Rob-

and why would Obama do that? It seems to me that wmd might be the reason for the Benghazi cover up. Would suck if those weapons the Obama Administration wanted to get into Syria turned out to be chemical weapons.

[rich@gmu]

Jane-

They don't want answers. Sort of like the Clinton Administration's handling of the Khobar Towers and Cole bombings.

[James D.]

daddy, Foreigner is still together?

What, is it the grandkids of the original band or something?

[James D.]

by the way, daddy, I think I can promise that my books are more entertaining than Bill Maher.

I don't know if I'd say the same for Bill Cosby, though. He used to be pretty darn good.

[rich@gmu]

and in keeping with the post...no asymptotically...Assad et al will approach Obama's redline asymptotically...

Or Obama's redline asymptotically approaches the parties actions...

nerd jokes are hard.

[rse]

http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/triune-consciousness-a-100-phrase-we-need-to-grasp-why-every-wrong-leads-to-the-same-remedy/

Something else to read if you don't think the govt already has enough data.

[sbwaters]

After Obama said that he had Repub's coming up and saying that they secretly agree

No doubt part of Spiro Agnew's silent majority.

[matt]

actually they are now called the Undocumented Aliens.

[narciso]

It's like Harry Reid's Republican businessmen who tipped him of Romney's 'tax evasions'

[Janet]

POTUS tells CNN that some in GOP tell him privately they agree with him but are fearful of Tea Party & Rush Limbaugh if they declare it.

Here's a question for a "news" reporter to ask Obama - WHO?

Al'Puxatawny Phil'Gore too. Al Gore: Republicans tell me privately they believe in global warming WHO?

bunch of damn liars.....

[MarkO now being monitered by the NSA on this site]

When was Obama alone with a Republican?

[sbwaters]

Here's a question for a "news" reporter to ask Obama - WHO?

And if Obama doesn't say who, he's blowing smoke up your skirt.

Absent who, a journalist shouldn't report the unsubstantiated hearsay.

They are sooo gullible.

[matt]

Obama: No Allegations NSA Is Trying to 'Listen in On People's Email'

or read their cell phone conversations!

[Jim Miller]

jimmyk - Washington state does have the death penalty, though we don't use it very often.

Here's my post on the last time it was used, September 2010.

(The post drove some of the lefties over at Sound Politics nuts.)

[Jim Miller]

jimmyk - Washington state does have the death penalty, though we don't use it very often.

Here's my post on the last time it was used: http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/September2010_2.html#jrm9127

(It drove some of the leftists over at Sound Politics nuts.)

[Jim Miller]

Sorry for the double post.

(I refreshed several times, and waited a bit, but not long enough, obviously.)

[Jim Eagle]

test

[daddy]

Samantha Powers, come on down. Ms Power's, you were just appointed Ambassador to the United Nations! What are you going to do first?

I'm going on vacation to Ireland!

And there you have it folks. Let's give a big, big round of applause to Samantha!

[matt]

Interesting article in today's WSJ on Cardinal Francis George, who has become the most vocal Catholic opponent of the administration. He is quoted as saying to several Catholic politicians who were opposed to the Church's stance on an organization supporting same sex marriage:

Jesus is merciful. But he is not stupid."

he recently said "this tendency for the government to claim for itself authority over all areas of human experience flows from the secularization of our culture. If God cannot be part of public life, then the state itself plays God."

Rarely have truer words been spoken.

[Danube on iPad]

"the occupant of the white house has his own identity issues"

This just in: he is Barack Hussein Obama.

[Threadkiller]

Not Barack Hussein Obama II?

[narciso]

Just more chronicles of the absurd,

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/23/white-house-spokesman-a-major-gas-attack-in-syria-would-threaten-u-s-national-security/

now these weapons in the hands of the Nusra front, that would be worrying,

[narciso]

So why are they doing this;

http://joshuafoust.com/the-least-credible-accusation/

[daddy]

Just read this from NRO, commenting on News reported in the UK Daily Mail:

Michael Jones, the driver of the vehicle carrying the two other teenagers one of whom shot Australian baseball player Christopher Lan last week in Duncan, Okla., has been connected to other crimes in the area, according to one of the detectives on the case. The Daily Mail reports that the Ford Focus of 17-year-old Jones was repeatedly seen in connection to three separate robberies in March of this year.

Why are these things being reported in overseas newspapers, and apparently not here at home? Why do overseas papers seem to do a better, more informative job of actual reporting than our domestic rags?

[Jane -May2014 Be there or Be Square]

Why are these things being reported in overseas newspapers, and apparently not here at home?

Because they look like Obama's sons.

[Jim Miller]

daddy - This morning, I watched more of the local news than I usually do, and was not surprised by the way King 5 handled the murder of Delbert "Shorty" Belton.

They did not treat it as a lead story.

When Joyce Taylor came on, she described the suspects as "teens" and did not show the pictures from the surveillance cameras. (She has a better natural tan than I do, in case you are wondering.) They did show a long clip of some of Belton's friends telling us what a great guy he is.

It isn't hard to work out the motivation for their editorial choices.

Nor is it hard to understand why many of us have come to absolutely distrust our "mainstream" journalists on some subjects.

(Note: I saw the segment on Kong, which is where the King 5 news program goes, after the national news program starts.)

Two of the local talk show hosts, John Carlson, went too far in the opposite direction, in my opinion. Carlson discussed it in at last three hours of his four hour show, and Boze in at least two hours of his three hour show.

I think that is excessive, until we know more about the attackers.

[Jim Miller]

That's David Boze, if you are wondering.

[daddy]

After reading Matt's 12:51 it strikes me that perhaps we should consider converting to Islam. That way we can murder as many of the rotten sunuvabitches as we want, women and children included, and never have to say we're sorry.

[Clarice]

If the paper doesn't mention the party affiliation of a miscreant politician, it's safe to assume he's a Democrat. Similarly, if n mention ismade of he reacde of the criminal, i's safe to assume he's Black. These assumptions may, of course, be wrong, but the way the press handles these things, a sentient reader has almost no other choice but to make these assumptions.

[narciso]

The corollary is they assume no sentient readers in our fishwrap, as we have yet another reverie on Oprah's Excellent Adventure, aka the Butler,

[daddy]

Sound Politics nuts

Passable name for a rock band.

[Jane -May2014 Be there or Be Square]

Daddy,

I have a new address for you. Do you know my biz address? I can't access my hotmail on this computer.

Scott Brown is hosting O'Reilly. How odd.

[daddy]

Thanks Jim Miller for the local news picture.

I am somewhat dreading the dog walk today for the same reason of local Talk Radio overkill.

James D. Just FYI, Dream Student has not yet made it to any Library in the state, but they said they could order it on loan from the lower 48 but it would take about 3 to 4 weeks. I'll keep asking.

[geezer]

Just wondering....what price is called for in the savage killing of that old man by Sharia Law. Head chopping ? Twenty pounds of assorted limbs? Vegetable peeler till you hear "uncle".

[Jim Miller]

Clarice - You may be interested in this Australian variant: If their "mainstream" news organizations give no description of a criminal suspect, knowledgeable people assume that he is Middle Eastern, and probably Muslim, at least by descent.

For a while, Tim Blair was having considerable fun with those suspects of no description.

[daddy]

Jane,

Hit came across with A(B)'s e-mail addy earlier today so I think my date with her and hubby is still a go. Your e-mail worked fine to me, so I'll use that addy unless you send a different one.

On the Marymary thing, I think we need to find out what State she is in and consider having a JOM Road Trip like in Animal House!

I wonder what JOMer's have not yet mingled with other JOMer's? Anybody know who our JOM virgins are? I'm guessing Marlene, the 2 Mary's, Agent J, and maybe "beloved" Anne.

Hit-sama, do you have that list?

[daddy]

If only the Black Bear had had Bear Spray.

Grizzly bear chows down on black bear

KayRoooooooo.

[Dave (in MA)]

Until the 5:27 comment, Tripepad was sticking "Am" and "PM" on the timestamps. What was up with that?

[narciso]

I feel like that bear:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/23/defense-department-guide-calls-founding-fathers-extremist/

[Dave (in MA)]

("Am" and "Pm" instead of "AM" and "PM")

[Jane -May2014 Be there or Be Square]

I used to have the record for meeting the most people. You guys better not surpass me.

Daddy, did she reply? Cause I got a message on facebook saying she hadn't heard from you.