Melting Down In Syria

Bill Jacobson: Syria: Cluster bombs won’t solve this cluster—-

To which I will add, we are trying to get this done with smart bombs and dumb leaders.

Comments

[Jeff Dobbs]

We need really, really smart bombs. Bombs just muscular enough not to get mocked.

[Ranger]

Barry seems to be having limited success moving the public:

NBC poll: Nearly 80 percent want congressional approval on Syria

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/30/20256971-nbc-poll-nearly-80-percent-want-congressional-approval-on-syria#comments

In this new NBC poll, 50 percent of respondents oppose the United States taking military action in response to Syria’s suspected use of chemical weapons, compared with 42 percent who support it.

That's a little bit better support for bombing than the beginning of the week, but not much better.

Not surprisingly, the public in not very impressed with Barry's handling of the situation:

He gets even lower marks on foreign policy: Just 41 percent approve of his handling of the issue – an all-time low.

And only 35 percent approve of his handling of the situation in Syria.

[JIB]

British press is all kerplumpf over losing that "special relationship" kind of feeling but not so much so since its a laugh a minute at the incompetence and naiveté of The One.

Kind on neat to be sitting in Europe long the butt-end of our own derision to see the mirror flipped toward the west. Even under Bush there was a certain respect for his leadership and determination even though he was a cowboy and dangerous in their estimation. Now the veneer has been stripped of the man-child and they are not impressed any longer.

[Ignatz]

Happy Birthday, Elliott!

[Ranger]

Another day, another leak that makes Obama look bad. Yesterday it was the intel folk putting the kibosh on the "slam dunk". Today it is the pentagon voicing reservations:

U.S. military officers have deep doubts about impact, wisdom of a U.S. strike on Syria

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-military-officers-have-deep-doubts-about-impact-wisdom-of-a-us-strike-on-syria/2013/08/29/825dd5d4-10ee-11e3-b4cb-fd7ce041d814_story.html

Some questioned the use of military force as a punitive measure and suggested that the White House lacks a coherent strategy. If the administration is ambivalent about the wisdom of defeating or crippling the Syrian leader, possibly setting the stage for Damascus to fall to fundamentalist rebels, they said, the military objective of strikes on Assad’s military targets is at best ambiguous.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

[Account Deleted]

"We need really, really smart bombs."

Hit,

That's rank discrimination. Who is going to determine which bombs are really smart? Are you going to use some sort of testing where only right answers count or will the Lawrence Tribe standard of "special intelligence" be acceptable? What about bombs that just don't test well but have otherwise remarkable attributes?

Isn't it more important that our bombs reflect a rainbow of diversity as they seek the targets best suited to their self concept of their own ability?

[Threadkiller]

If the bomb is guided by a teleprompter, it will appear smart.

[JIB]

Happy Birthday Elliot,

11 years ago in the US Junior Amateur, Elliot's heroics in match play caught the eye of Golfweek and he was featured in an article by Graham Elliot (of course:).

Since its public information, there is no intent to embarrass Elliot but only to showcase his immense talent scholastically as well as in golf. He was only 17 at the time, so I guess its Happy 28th Birthday, Elliot.

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

Maybe we won't blow up a foreign embassy with one of Slick's cooter seeking missiles.

[NK(tryin')]

HB Elliot..

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

HB Elliott

[Threadkiller]

Happy Birthday Elliott!

Hit, would you mind posting a recap of the previous birthdays in the current spree?

I have been negligent with my wishes.

[NK(tryin')]

I have to admit, these past 5 years even I didn't think Obummer was THIS BIG of an idiot. He really is worse than we say he is.

[Jane]

I'm at the deutschebank championship wit TC. Phil 2 under. Tiger 1 under.

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

RIP Seamus Heaney.

[Jane]

Given Elliott's birthday that's appropriate .phil2 under tiger1 under and Elliott the champ!

[dublindave]

The President is alone. Even Republicans have deserted him. As he prepares to take on one of the worst sponsors of state terrorism in the world, an ally of Iran and a murderer of woman and children with chemical weapons let us note where the GOP was during this violent time;pissing it's pants in a closet with Rance priebus.

We'll call you when it's all over.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Well, he did spill the beans earlier in the week ... and I did hint that his special day coincided with a birthday of a JOMer younger than his marriage, sooooooo...

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY CAPTAIN AND MRS HATE!!!

[fdcol63]

" ... smart bombs and dumb leaders ...."

Resulting in cluster fucks.

[centralcal]

Happy Anniversary to M/M Hate. And, happy birthday again to Elliott (in case he doesn't visit every thread).

[NK(tryin')]

DD@9:33-- once more unto the breach! but DD's heart is not in it, it's only for the few Trolling pennies he gets from Soros, that go towards his next Guinness. Is it fair that Obummer takes the Assad menace so seriously that he heads for the evening to give away benes to $32,000/plate cronies, and DD is slaving away over a keyboard trolling for pennies. It's just not right I tellya.

[George Ditter]

Well Dublin as our gracious host as pointed out in six months the President will be opposing himself on standing alone against vicious killers, the situation will be worse and you will be - blaming the Republicans. But I'm game. The Prez says all he plans is a meaningless gesture couldn't he just get together with Jess Jackson and frown upon the use of chemical weapons?

[Jeff Dobbs]

TK:
Hit, would you mind posting a recap of the previous birthdays in the current spree

Let me 'splain.

::pause::

No, there is too much. Let me sum up.

bgates is born on August 23 and Chaco on August 24. On August 25 we have NJ Jan, maryrose's son and Sue. On August 27 Glenda entered this world. On August 29, Cathyf's mom was born and 23 years later on the same day she was wedded to Cathyf's father. Today we have Elliott's birth to celebrate, and Captain Hate is a marry Mrs Hate in a little less than half an hour (38 years ago).

So all we have to do is get in, eat some wedding cake, steal the princess, make our escape... after I kill Count Rugen.

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

The funny thing is dumbassdave thinks he's trolling us by insulting the Repukes.

[NK(tryin')]

So all we have to do is get in, eat some wedding cake, steal the princess, make our escape... after I kill Count Rugen..

Impossible... if we only had a wheelbarrow... we do it's still with the Albino.... why didn't count that amongst our assets.

[Jeff Dobbs]

I'm not sure albino Duda is among our assets, but...

There is a shortage of perfect boobs in this world. It would be a pity to damage ours.

[Ignatz]

--The President is alone.--

WeeDavey,
Barry will never be alone as long as you're around, in the same way BillyJeff was never alone as long as Monica was around to do her internaling...err, sorry, interning.

I would advise you to keep the blue dress though; might come in handy when the little creep jilts you.

[Ask General Idris]

He's lost everyone (neoconss?)

"Former and current officers, many with the painful lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan on their minds, said the main reservations concern the potential unintended consequences of launching cruise missiles against Syria."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-military-officers-have-deep-doubts-about-impact-wisdom-of-a-us-strike-on-syria/2013/08/29/825dd5d4-10ee-11e3-b4cb-fd7ce041d814_story.html

[Ask General Idris]

John Kerry is sad we can't bomb the shit out of them to save them.

I doubt the JC has really learned anything from Iraq. They just see an opportunity to pull the rug from under POTUS. But it does seem more difficult to pull the shell-game on a slumbering population.

[MarkO on vacation at an undisclosed location]

Yesterday I asked for someone to outline the Obama Doctrine. Today, it's on Drudge.

I'm worried about myself.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Rick:
Isn't it more important that our bombs reflect a rainbow of diversity as they seek the targets best suited to their self concept of their own ability?

I may be stretching here, but I detect the slightest hint, just a whiff mind you, that you could possibly be, again I don't want to go too far out on a limb with the speculation, but I am considering that there is a chance you just might be mocking Obama here.

If so, his bombs have already proven insufficiently muscular even before being launched.

[narciso]

Well Newbold was one of those 'mutineers' as Zarqawi called them, along with Baptiste, Eaton et al, in 2006, it's good they are doing their backstabbing, saves time, their complaints are kind of vague, is it the durability of air defenses, how long a predominantly Baath microfraction can hold out,

[Threadkiller]

Thanks for the list, Hit. ("Hit list"? I get it!)

Happy belated birthdays and anniversaries to the aforementioned!!!

[narciso]

I recalled he complained to Esquire's columnist, Barnett, that Rumsfeld was mean to him, because he didn't use the word 'decimate' correctly,

the goals in this expedition, are much less clear, Bashir isn't the problem, it's the whole underlying military intelligence structure that supports him, the rebels aren't the answer either,

[narciso]

How long would Volodya keep resupplying, and the consequences of if he does,

[henry]

MarkO, that Drudge link made it clear... Assad violated international norms!!!!!!

Same as the Tea Party, private schools, individual transportation, productive use of energy, constitutional freedoms, free markets, and equal enforcement of applicable laws.

It explains everything.

[Danube on iPad]

What does this idiot do if one (or more) of those destroyers is hit by an anti-ship missile?

[Ignatz]

--Yesterday I asked for someone to outline the Obama Doctrine. Today, it's on Drudge.

I'm worried about myself.--

I take that last line to mean MarkO is worried about himself for being so prescient, but it also makes an excellent distillation of the Obama Doctrine.

[Danube on iPad]

Note that Dana Gilbert Ward assumes "militery officers" to be synonymous with "neoconss [sic]." Such is the sophistication of the Pitzer College faculty.

[NK(tryin')]

DoT asks: "What does this idiot do if one (or more) of those destroyers is hit by an anti-ship missile?"

He calls Reggie Love and tells him to make the bad men stop?

Obummer couldn't find his own arse with 2 hands and a flashlight. Just a disgrace.

[Ask General Idris]

As usual the assisted-care receiver has trouble with his short-term memory, and of course any new information escapes his bare-trap(sic) brain.

[Threadkiller]

Assuming some terms are synonymous is ok though.

Here is Levin saying Cruz is "Naturalized" and "Natural Born".

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/mark-levin-calls-cruz-naturalized-citizen.html?m=1

At least he doesn't sound obsessed.

[NK(tryin')]

bigotted comments against people of a certain age? So sad, pitiful really.

[NK(tryin')]

TK.... ARGHHH.....

[Jeff Dobbs]

You're three weeks early for International talk Like a Pirate Day.

[Janet]

Yesterday I asked for someone to outline the Obama Doctrine. Today, it's on Drudge.

Yes, Mark! And...I think it was jimmyk that pointed out how Palin was mocked for not knowing the MFM version of the Bush Doctrine. (wish I would have marked the comment)
Obama doesn't even know the Obama Doctrine.

[peter]

Happy "birth" day tk!

[Ranger]

Hot Air has a good post on how we got here:

The ad-libbed war?

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/30/the-ad-libbed-war/

And points out an important factor, this was all about Obama puffing his chest out to get himself re-elected.

Dwyer refers to Obama as a “tortured spirit,” who never wanted to find himself in this position. Even at the time, though, it was clear that Obama did want to put himself in this position — while hoping that Assad wouldn’t call his bluff. Obama was in the middle of a presidential campaign which had begun to position him as the experienced foreign-policy hand, and the administration had spent the last few months bragging about its intervention in Libya. Talking tough with Assad was designed to leverage his supposed success in Libya on the international stage as well as increase his standing at home, before the attack on our consulate in Benghazi exposed the disaster that Western intervention caused.

So just remind all the LIVs you know, that a vote for a democrat is a vote to bomb an Arab country.

[Ask General Idris]

You mean he really is old? Sorry. I thought he was just premature in his senility.

[reliapundit]

IF WE WERE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT ENDING THIS WHOLE DAMN THING THEN THE WEST/NATO WOULD ATTACK IRAN AND NOT SYRIA :WE'D NEUTRALIZE THEIR AIR FORCE, NAVY, THE IRG AND TAKE OUT ALL THEIR NUCLEAR ASSETS.

AND WE'D GET THE KURDS TO DECLARE AN INDEPENDENT KURDISH STATE WITH THEIR IRAQ, IRAN, SYRIAN, AND TURKISH OCCUPIED TERRITORIES.

THEY COULD CONTINUE SHARING OIL REVENUE WITH IRAQ FOR A DECADE OR SO. UNLESS THEY ARE ATTACKED BY ANY PREVIOUS OCCUPIER.

WITH ISRAEL AND KURDISTAN, THE WEST WOULD HAVE TWO STABLE ALLIES IN THE REGION.

WE COULD THEN HELP THE ARMY STABILIZE EGYPT AND HELP KING HUSSEIN STABILIZE JORDAN.

THIS WOULD SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE.

DOMESTICALLY: WE NEED TO PASS A LAW MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR MOSQUES AND MADRASSAS AND ISLAMIC SCHOOL, AND OTHER ISLAMIC INSTITUTIONS TO ACCEPT MONEY FROM OVERSEAS AND ANY FOREIGN NATION. PUNISHABLE BY SEIZURE OF ALL ASSETS AND PROSECUTION AS AN ILLEGAL AGENT OF A FOREIGN NATION AND/OR SEDITION/TREASON.

IF WE WERE SERIOUS ABOUT DEFENDING THE FREE WORLD THEN WE'D TAKE THESE STEPS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

ONCE IRAN GETS ONE NUKE, IT'S OVER FOR US ALL.

[peter]

Perhaps Obama can help the economy and solve the Syria crisis simultaneously-- bombard Syria with thousands of iPods loaded with recordings of his best speeches-- just like the one he gave the Queen a few years ago.

[Ask General Idris]

Yep. Neocons still at it. So if Syria didn't do the trick, aren't things still tenuous in Yemen, another back-door to Iran?

[Beasts of England]

If it were only 'dumb leaders' we had to contend with. Dumb can be mitigated, confused and incapable cut to the core...

[NK(tryin')]

Lurch to speak at 12:30--- spare me.

[fdcol63]

"Obama doesn't even know the Obama Doctrine."

Because, like ObamaCare, most of it is "at the discretion" of someone else.

For ObamaCare, it's the Secretary of HHS (Sibelius).

For the Obama Doctrine, it's ValJar and the Muslim Brotherhood.

[Beasts of England]

By the time I post this comment, Elliott will have had a pluperfect birthday.

(Happy birthday, Elliott - may your syntax and declensions remain without flaw!)

[MarkO on vacation at an undisclosed location]

It's TK's birthday?

[Threadkiller]

Peter was making a birther joke, MarkO. It helps up the birther comment count for Rob C.

[Janet]

Happy Anniversary, Captain!

[Beasts of England]

Captain's anniversary? I thought it was his birthday just the other day? (not that those are mutually exclusive...)

Is there a list or something?

[Ranger]

Apparently, Obama now has a clear goal:

Aim of U.S. Attack: Restore a ‘Red Line’ That Became Blurred

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/30/world/middleeast/aim-of-a-us-attack-on-syria-sharpening-a-blurred-red-line.html

WASHINGTON — The goal of the cruise missile strikes the United States is planning to carry out in Syria is to restore the smudged “red line” that President Obama drew a year ago against the use of poison gas.

Note the use of the passive voice. I wonder how that line got so smudged?

[Jeff Dobbs]

Nope, not TK's birthday - it's several weeks away. Also, neither does anyone in his family have a birthday today. Nope. Not today.......

[Account Deleted]

"How long would Volodya keep resupplying, and the consequences of if he does"

Narciso,

The Russian mob appears to be playing a deeper game than the silliness of Slap BOzo Day (after day after day). I'd bet on a very strong resupply effort and I wouldn't be surprised to find out they had furnished Syria with armaments sufficient to give the US a real black eye. DoT mentioned a missile hit but the Russians also have mine/torpedoes that can "sleep" on the sea floor until needed. They are not easy to find at all. It would just be bad luck if one of our destroyers came within range but we are talking about a BOzo operation.

The short answer is that Russia has strategic objectives and I don't believe dumping Assad is in their plans.

[Moochelles Caboose]

King Obongo gets called out by Assad's 11 year old kid on facebook. America, thanks to Obongo, is the laughing stock of the world. Obongo does like to team up with the terrorists MB in Egypt and Al Queda in Syria. Obongo is trying to figure out how to give the kids post a thumbs down.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/29/facebook-post-said-to-be-by-assads-son-dares-americans-to-attack/

[NK(tryin')]

The Red Line-- it was 2012 campaign BS, a bluff, and Obummer got his bluff called by a chinless opthalmologist, or Prince Bandar, depending on whomever you believe.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Beasts:
Is there a list or something?

There is The List.

It's proprietary.

[fdcol63]

The good news, though, is now the NSA can snoop on the Assad kid and ALL of his posts and friends. LOL

[pagar213]

Happy Anniversary Capt and Mrs Hate.
HB Elliott.
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"IF WE WERE SERIOUS ABOUT DEFENDING THE FREE WORLD "

I don't get the felling that anyone in the Obama regime is.

[NK(tryin')]

TK's ...er... focus on natural born. I swear TK must be Greek with a stubborn streak a mile wide and 2 feet deep. And I mean that with the deep and abiding respect and admiration I have for Greek Stubborness, :)

[Ignatz]

--On August 29, Cathyf's mom was born and 23 years later on the same day she was wedded to Cathyf's father.--

Glad somebody finally explained that.
The first time it was mentioned a day or two ago it sounded like Cathy's parents were celebrating their 23rd anniversary yesterday.
Now, I know Cathy is delightful, sagacious and no doubt as lovely as a dew kissed rose, but I have always been under the impression she was probably, even if very slightly, beyond her third decade.
Good to know my concerns were illegitimate. :)

[NK(tryin')]

fdcol-- well there is that positive aspect by being called out by a little kid.

Speaking of which, I wonder what pleasantries Vlad has planned for Obummer in St. Petersburg this week. Bathhouse Barry photos appearing on the internet are not out of the question. Or the more mundane -- acts of war in the Med. We are so screwed.

[Ignatz]

-Note the use of the passive voice. I wonder how that line got so smudged?--

Missiles ensued.

[Beasts of England]

hit and run@11:33 - I've always been an outsider...

[Ranger]

And the press is starting to notice the little issue of international law:

Obama Striking Assad Risks International Law Conflict

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-29/obama-striking-assad-risks-international-law-conflict.html

It is also interesting to note, that Obama claimed he didn't need congressional approval for the Libya fandango, because there was a UNSC resolution authorizing it. Now he wants to claim he doesn't need the UN either.

This little bit is an interesting note:

Benjamin Wittes, a senior fellow focusing on national security legal issues at the Brookings Institution in Washington, said that the Obama administration is operating without a Senate-confirmed top legal adviser at the Departments of State or Defense, or permanent leadership in the Justice Department’s national-security division.

That just re-enforces how little respect ObamaCo has for the law in general I guess.

[fdcol63]

In his conceit and arrogance, Obama believed that his power and prestige was based on himself.

He never considered that those qualities were dependent on his office as President of the United States, the leader of the last remaining superpower and the defender of the Free World.

He sought to "take America down a peg" and make us just another country like the UK, France, Germany, Spain, et al.

He undermined America's credibility with his apology tour and constant assertions that America was the major source of what was wrong with the world.

He undermined America's and the world's faith in America's intelligence gathering capabilities with his constant accusations of "Bush Lied!" due to Bush's reliance on faulty intelligence in Iraq.

He conducted a war in Libya without Congressional authorization, despite his and Biden's accusation that Bush was guilty of impeachable offenses because of the Iraq War, even though it WAS authorized by a Congressional AUMF.

And now he wonders why no one trusts him or the US regarding Syria?

I could enjoy the Schadenfreude if only it didn't also further destroy America's credibility and standing in the world.

[NK(tryin')]

fdcol63@11:47-- brilliant summary of where we are an how we got here in 5 years. 5 years ago this month, Vlad learned that GWB-Cheney wouldn't put up with his Vlad's new Imperial Russia schtick in Georgia. Now Vlad is gleefully rolling over Obummer.... everywhere.

[Ask General Idris]

"That just re-enforces how little respect ObamaCo has for the law in general I guess."

It must be John Yoo.

[lyle]

I await the international footage of Syrian women and children orphans killed, maimed, burned etc., from US missile strikes. Sure, they'll probably be faked but will it really matter? What's Zero or his mendacious press flack gonna do? Call them out on it?

As if I couldn't detest this admin more than I do...

[Captain Hate on an iPhone]

Thanks for the good wishes.

Beasts, you misunderstood me a couple nights ago; hit will accurately report my birthday, I'm sure, when it happens later this year. Pretty exciting start to SEC football, no? Franklin at Vandy was an assistant to fat Ralph and should have been his replacement if not for the situation being botched by Chairman Yow who has subsequently relocated to iNCeST.

[NK(tryin')]

John Yoo has the curse of intellectual consistency and honesty. Thus when AQ wantonly violates the requirements of Geneva's Conventions, he correctly concludes that AQ are not lawful combatants entitled to Geneva protections given to SOLDIERS. And when US treaty obligations have specific definitions of torture, which don't include 'well doing that is kinda icky' Yoo refuses to make up a new definition never ratified by the Senate. He is and intellectually gifted and honest man-- I wish we had men like him in government now.

[Ask General Idris]

"And when US treaty obligations have specific definitions of torture, which don't include 'well doing that is kinda icky' Yoo refuses to make up a new definition never ratified by the Senate."

Yes. He's right up there with Ollie North and Poindexter.

[NK(tryin')]

And Mr. Yoo has some intellectual guts too... he does his thing at Boalt Hall.

[lyle]

Completely OT: lyle is coming back east to the bright lights of New Haven in two weeks. Mrs. lyle is playing in a piano recital at Yale on Sept. 15th. Since she will be practicing for a duet, I'll have a lot of free time to kill. If any JOMers in the area would like join me, lunch and/or drinks are on me. You'll recognize me by the hayseeds falling from my overalls and the irrepressible stench of a flyover rube. Sound like fun, huh?

My email can be accessed through the top-secret encrypted JOM database, can't it? If not, I can supply it through the depressingly less secure act of a comment thread. ;)

[NK(tryin')]

On display: just flaming ignorance of historical facts, the law... everything.

[lyle]

Also, any and all are invited to the recital sponsored by the Yale music dept. I can email the program and time if interested.

[NK(tryin')]

Well if I'm refereeing that day in the New Haven area... sure. Be advised... New Haven ain't Kansas, it ain't even the Bronx.

[NK(tryin')]

Hit has my email address.

[henry]

Lyle, music at Yale is something special. Congrats to your wife! The people I know in New Haven are lefties, so I don't go there much anymore.

[lyle]

The people I know in New Haven are lefties

I accepted this a given. The recital is in honor of Madeleine Forte's 75th birthday. She is the wife of a Yale musicologist emeritus prof.

New Haven ain't Kansas, it ain't even the Bronx.

I understand the area around the campus is...a bit rough.

[NK(tryin')]

PS: ditto to Henry's comment: giving a piano recital at Yale is a big deal in my book... it takes talent and dedication to get there. Congrats to Mrs. Lyle.

[MarkO on vacation at an undisclosed location]

lyle,

What a treat. I wish I could go. Of course, there would be a question of whether I'm worthy.

[Danube on iPad]

It appears that the Peanut Farmer will never die:

"A punitive military response without a U.N. Security Council mandate or broad support from NATO and the Arab League would be illegal under international law and unlikely to alter the course of the war," he wrote in a statement. "It will only harden existing positions and postpone a sorely needed political process to put an end to the catastrophic violence."

[lyle]

Thanks all for the congrats. Madeleine was Mrs. lyle's piano instructor at our humble alma mater, Boise State, for all of her undergrad and part of her graduate work. They are very close friends. It is not a solo recital for the missus and in fact she will be a relatively small contributor with a four hand Beethoven march. The other pianists are former students of Madeleine's and a few are top flight international soloists/stars.

[henry]

Meltdown not in Syria cleared to go. Via Insty, San Bernadino bankruptcy is a go. Calpers & unions hardest hit, federal court ruling a pattern for all blue hells -- Detroit, IL that means you.

[NK(tryin')]

Take it easy on that Carter stuff, you two do share a Canoe U pedigree. But you are right, Carter's too full of piss, bile and himself to ever die... and the thing he's married to is meaner than a snake.

[lyle]

Reading over my comments, I neglected to mention Madeleine is a fabulously accomplished pianist herself and has played Carnegie Hall. She's something of a Chopin specialist.

My email is kcturk@msn.com

[NK(tryin')]

Henry-- well ... we'll have to se what the 9th Circuit and SCOTUS say about San Bernadino. In the meantime, AFSCME will definitely be pressuring the Detroit unions to settle, before there are too many negative pension decisions out of bankruptcy courts and all the Blue Cities and Counties head into bankruptcy. It is all proceeding as anyone who thought about the muni finance debt bomb has foretold.

[Some Guy]

The Obama Doctrine:

"We have to bomb it, to see what's in it"

[Paula]

Hi all. My son is in his fifth week of boot camp. He's told me he's being told that WW3 is very near. Not in months, but in weeks.

I'm so frightened. Any words of encouragement for me?

[Jeff Dobbs]

Lyle - I don't have your email address on my list (but email lists float around in flavors that compete in number with Baskin Robbins).

You can send to jomhitandrun@gmail.com if you would prefer not to broadcast it here.