Saturday Kick Off

Oooh, we make the segue to football metaphors...

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[narciso]

Just vunderful, seriously;

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/fox-tv-studios-in-talks-to-produce-nbcs-hillary-clinton-miniseries/

[narciso]

Underwear gnome security strategy;

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/08/10/threat-over-u-s-to-re-open-18-of-19-closed-embassies-this-weekend/

[Ignatz]

Do they really need a mini series?
How long could it take to cover the important events of her life?

1. Edmund Hillary carries a picture of her ultra sound next to his heart up Everest.
2. The miracle of the loaves and cattle futures.
3. She and Web Hubbel stash her Rose law firm bills in the WH closet.
4. She ducks and rolls to avoid the sniper fire in Bosnia.
5. A shot of her headstone and the epitaph carved in it:
"What difference, at this point, does it make?".....and fade to black.

[narciso]

And one of the interesting things that we don’t talk about enough is the contrast between what’s happened in the United States and what’s happened in a lot of other developing countries, Europe in particular. It's pretty rare where we have the chance to look at two policy approaches and follow them over several years and see which one worked.
He was trying for some Krugmanesque riff, first mistake;

And the fact is there are a lot of European countries who followed the prescription that the House Republicans are calling for right now, and not only have they lagged well below where we've gone in terms of growth, in many cases their debt and their deficits have actually gone up because their economy is still effectively in recession. And although we haven’t been growing as fast as we would like, we have consistently outperformed those countries that followed the recipe that the House Republicans are offering right now.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

They're frantically searching for Secretary of State successes; maybe gratifying Huma wouldn't be smart to mention, assuming it's true.

[sbwaters]

Ignatz, that's deliciously succinct.

It buries the MSM.

[OldTimer]

Let me be perfectly clear, he stated with demonic clarity...

http://washingtonexaminer.com/reid-says-obamacare-just-a-step-towards-single-payer-system/article/2534125

[narciso]

Sorry about that repetition, of course no challenges how the adjustment programs in Europe have been mostly fiscal (taxes) and negative to growth,

[Account Deleted]

CH,

Perhaps they should try for a tie-in to joint Israeli-Egyptian operations slaughtering Moslem Brotherhood troublemakers in the Sinai? If she doesn't claim to be the inspiration, Kerry will. Until Jar-Jar slaps him down.

[narciso]

Why wouldn't they, it's like thosr officials who failed to respond in Benghazi

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/10/irs-official-who-oversaw-cincinnati-branch-during-scandal-gets-promotion/http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/10/irs-official-who-oversaw-cincinnati-branch-during-scandal-gets-promotion/">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/10/irs-official-who-oversaw-cincinnati-branch-during-scandal-gets-promotion/">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/10/irs-official-who-oversaw-cincinnati-branch-during-scandal-gets-promotion/http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/10/irs-official-who-oversaw-cincinnati-branch-during-scandal-gets-promotion/

[Ignatz]

The euro model; Spend more, just not as much as you were going to + raise taxes = no growth and the same crushing debt burden.

The Barry model; spend way more than you were going to + raise taxes + QE³ = virtually no growth and a vastly bigger crushing debt burden.

Has a single European country cut spending and taxes? (not that the GOP has the sense to actually propose that themselves)
Of course not.

[narciso]

So burning strawmen as far as the eye can see, I don't know how the smoke doesnt blind them.

[peter]

Iggy, I think Estonia has cut spending and their economy has done well as a result.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

That is a success, Rick, despite our best efforts.

[narciso]

Yes, I recalled something about that;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-07/krugman-anti-austerity-jab-irks-budget-champ-estonia.html

[MarkO]

"Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system."

DOOM

Just an aside. Why are Americans so docile?

[Ignatz]

An astounding story of prosecutorial and judicial misconduct and collusion by Judge Sirica and Leon Jaworsky in Watergate.

[Ignatz]

Thanks peter.
I had forgotten about Estonia; a modern day version of Harding's experiment.

[MarkO]

Iggy,

Both of Sirica's law clerks were Duke classmates of mine. I sent that article off to them and they rejected it totally. Here's part of an email from one of them:

Mark,
Thanks for sending me this article. Sounds like author Shepard has not gotten over his infatuation with his former boss, Nixon, let alone recognized the serious crimes that Nixon and his closest associates committed and allowed. The claim that Sirica was "a hanging judge who had taken a personal interest in the case and was eager to assist in its prosecution" is an old Bromide repeated by lazy writers who are unwilling to do their homework. (Judge Sirica introduced me to the journalist who coined the moniker "hanging judge" and we all had a laugh about it - good journalism (got reader's attention) if a bit simplistic and excessive factually. He certainly was tough on convicted criminals, but he was very fair in the way he ran his court. I doubt Shepard's claims or thesis will get much traction; it is like Saddam claiming that he won the Gulf War -- too many people who remember the facts are still breathing.

[Frank CHurch]

Heh, that Atlantic piece had a choice comment which I'm sure addresses your biggest concern.

:"If I remember correctly, Hillary was on staff of House Judiciary Committee and was not part of this."

[sbwaters]

The Atlantic? The Atlantic?

What business are they in?

[Ignatz]

Unfortunately MarkO none of the comments of your classmate addresses what Shepard wrote and in fact seems to implicitly recognize that his claims are factual, only that they won't get much traction.

Shepard doesn't claim Mitchell et al were innocent only that they were denied due process, that Sirica's actions made him unfit to serve as the trial judge and likely would have resulted in an overturning of their convictions had it been known.
Given what Jaworski himself (not Shepard) wrote in his notes, that all seems fairly pretty hard to argue with, whether it gets traction or not.

[narciso]

the agitprop business, btw, Elysium from the spoiler makes Starship Troopers seem like Star Wars (classic)

[Ignatz]

--Heh, that Atlantic piece had a choice comment which I'm sure addresses your biggest concern.--

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong, ascribing false motives and sounding stupid?

[Threadkiller]

How are you feeling, sbw?

[Ignatz]

*fairly pretty hard to argue with*

[narciso]

Much as Holland found out,when he reviewed Pakula's notes on ATPM, we were served up bupkis.

[Ignatz]

For your Saturday listening pleasure;
I'm a Ding Dong Daddy From Dumas by Phil Harris.

[MarkO]

Tigre? 3 over, T58.

"Don't underestimate yourself, Judge. You're a TREMENDOUS slouch."

[Jack is Back!]

He really is a complete Doofus.

I didn't hear about his comment regarding the winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia and Russias anti-gay laws but its a doozy.

Russia may need more gay and lezzie athletes if they to win more medals or something.

[Threadkiller]

http://amoprobos.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/obama-dismisses-indictment-against_10.html?m=1

[narciso]

It's like Forrest's box of chocolates, but it's made by Whizzo,

[Threadkiller]

Here is part one and part two that precede my 11:59.

http://amoprobos.blogspot.com/2013/07/obama-dismisses-indictment-against.html?m=1

http://amoprobos.blogspot.com/2013/08/obama-dismisses-indictment-against.html?m=1

[Danube of Thought]

I think the guy in TK's 11:59 will not be deemed a private attorney general and that his petition will be dismissed for lack of standing.

[Jack is Back!]

TK,

Elizabeth Duke is most likely hiding in plain sight at some Ivy as an adjunct professor of some archaic subject:)

[Danube of Thought]

I take it Tom M has lost interest in the Yankees.

[sbwaters]

TK, I'm sitting Dufner. Moving slowly but doing well. Happy to have JOM on which to lurk.

My wife thinks I am a model patient, which I try to be. Counting down to Wednesday when I hope to discard the Foley.

Grateful to have sports on the tube, but could do with a lot less Patrick Stewart overacting on commercials. :-)

Thanks for asking.

[Clarice]

Iggy, Brilliant!

[bgates]

And the fact is there are a lot of European countries who followed the prescription that the House Republicans are calling for right now

Sure, after the House Republicans were elected with support from the T.E.A. Party (That Europe's Amazing!)

[Clarice]

I was the first person to beat that "crack" Watergate prosecution team--on appeal. Bunch of the usual egotistical jerks who thought they were really something.

[pagar]

Anyone ever heard of this?

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/09/armstrong-confirms-hundreds-of-layoffs-at-patch-400-sites-shuttered-or-partnered-off-and-a-new-ceo/

[sbwaters]

Pagar,regarding Patch, until they learn what journalism is they won't be able to practice it.

[Jack is Back!]

Looks like we left Southampton just in time: Biden is spending the week there on some estate on First Neck Lane and Bill/Hill are in Sagaonack. Biden was caught on camera at 75 Main restaraunt wearing jeans Only the undocumented lawn workers wear jeans in Southapton, everyone else wears board shorts, Ts and flip-flops:)

[Danube of Thought]

In which are recounted some of the exploits of the guy in TK's 11:49.

[Threadkiller]

"Just an aside. Why are Americans so docile?

Posted by: MarkO | August 10, 2013 at 11:19 AM"

Because of DoT's handling of messengers?

[jimmyk]

From the last thread: "At least Booker's Waywire wasted private investors money."

The suspicion was that this was a roundabout way for people to give Booker a lot of money, presumably with expectation of getting something back. (Kind of like Hillary's cattle future profits.). I don't know if that suspicion is alleviated if the investment turns out to be worthless.

[Jack is Back!]

DoT,

Any idea why he was disbarred?

[Threadkiller]

Good to hear, sbw.

[DrJ]

Yesterday our neighbor called us with an interesting problem. She had left her front door open. In waddled a duck, which proceeded to make itself at home in her living room. It is still there today.

Lord love a duck!

[jorod]

Maybe someone will find evidence that our fearless president is a sexual predator and Michelle can run for president in 2016.

[peter]

Yeah, good point... why is Hillary more qualified than Michelle? Michelle is a graduate of Princeton and Harvard... Moochelle in '16 Let's MOOOOVE!

[narciso]

True and the weasel involved in that prosecution , is now a VP at United Technologies, who says
witchhunts don't pay, this Zeidenberg character who was reprimanded by the judges in the Safavian case, is the next model

[Threadkiller]

They will run Gabby Gifford.

Imagine the debate format...

[Danube on iPad]

I believe Florida disbarred him for being a "vexatious litigant" and abusing the legal process.

[JIB]

He does possess many of the characteristics of the Canadian dollar:)

[narciso]

Lol, Dr. J.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Was there a last minute change of Gaylord's plans to Provincetown as a destination? Does NSA have the ability to monitor polonium supplies?

[Threadkiller]

Obama Protested By Birthers In Florida; Met With "Kenyan Go Home" Sign

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/lol-obama-protested-by-birthers-in.html?m=1

Florida...

[OldTimer]

IRS elites have no fear whatsoever of their power-crazed diktats ever being curtailed. And they fear even less the threat of criminal indictment. They must think their tyrannical perches are super-glue secure with Kingbama.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/10/critics-question-irs-initiative-targeting-small-businesses/

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/355384/sixth-senior-irs-official-departs-wake-targeting-scandal-eliana-johnson

[Frank CHurch]

Kennedy rejected the proposal and became another notch on the gun, but false-flag attacks seem normal now

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Northwoods.html

a. Incidents to establish a credible attack (not in
chronilogical order):

(1) Start rumors (many). Use clandestine radio.

(2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence"
to stage attack on the base.

(3) Capture Cuban (friendly) sabateurs inside the
base.

(4) Start riots near the entrance to the base (friendly
Cubans).
Appendix to
Enclosure A
7
Page 11

(5) Blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires.

(6) Burn aircraft on airbase (sabatage).

(7) Lob morter shells from outside of base into base.
Some damage to installations.

(8) Capture assault teams approaching from the sea
of vicinity of Guantanamo City.

(9) Capture militia group which storms the base.

(10) Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires -- napthalene.

(11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals
for mock-victims (may be lieu of (10)).

b. United States would respond by executing offensive
operations to secure water and power supplies, destroying
artillery and mortar emplacements which threaten the base.

c. Commence large scale United States military operations.

3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in
several forms:

a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and
blame Cuba.

b. We could blow up a drone (unmannded) vessel anywhere
in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident
in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result
of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presense
of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of
the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship
was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago
would add credibility especially to those people that might
have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could
follow with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US
fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existant
crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful
wave of national indignation.

4. We could develop a Communist Cuba terror campaign in
the Miami area, in other Flordia cities and even in Washington.

[Threadkiller]

What the world needs is a rainbow colored reset button.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

If the eunuchs in the GOP can't apply the gelding shears to the IRS, they're either more useless or complicit than even I thought.

[Ignatz]

--Kennedy rejected the proposal and became another notch on the gun...--

Following his election in 1960, president John F. Kennedy was informed of the invasion plan and gave his consent....On 28 January 1961, President Kennedy was briefed, together with all the major departments, on the latest plan (code-named Operation Pluto) that involved 1,000 men to be landed in a ship-borne invasion at Trinidad, Cuba, about 270 km (170 mi) south-east of Havana, at the foothills of the Escambray Mountains in Sancti Spiritus province. Kennedy authorized the active departments to continue, and to report progress.

How's the water in that fever swamp?

[narciso]

The latter, one looks at our local example.

[Frank CHurch]

At best, only a couple of members of Congress who voted for the PATRIOT Act read the legislation before casting their votes. They didn’t need to. This was a longstanding objective of the U.S. government: implement the structure for an expanded police state, just in case the ruling class needed to take such steps. Lawrence Lessig, a highly respected professor of law at Stanford University, famously revealed some years ago that 9/11 was simply an excuse.

“The Patriot Act is huge and I remember someone asking a Justice Department official how did they write such a large statute so quickly, and of course the answer was that it has been sitting in the drawers of the Justice Department for the last 20 years waiting for the event that would allow them” to pull it out.

Lessig continued, “Of course, the Patriot Act is filled with all sorts of insanity about changing the way civil rights are protected, or not protected in this instance. So I was having dinner once and [former U.S. anti-terrorism “czar”] Richard Clarke was at the table, and said to him, ‘Is there an equivalent, is there an i-Patriot Act just sitting waiting for some substantial event for them to come in and have the excuse for radically changing the way the internet works?’ And he said, ‘Of course, there is’.” [4].

[Ignatz]

Trying to remember if any of the race conscious lefties here have ever posted a comment on Fidel's predilection for sending black Cuban foot soldiers into darkest Africa back in the seventies and eighties to slaughter black Africans in support of brutal communist dictators.

Drawing a blank.

[narciso]

The problem was in part, the overweaning desire to 'enbiggen' the problem, there was a resistance in the Escambray mountain that lasted till 1965, also Kennedy switched the landing site from Trinidad to the Bay of Pigs, because he didn't want to look involved,

[Frank CHurch]

Uh, I think Northwoods was AFTER BoP, but continue on with the frenzy of wrong and stoopid.

[Danube on iPad]

41% at Gallup. Lowest ever.

[Frank CHurch]

Anyway it's history. I only provide it for context in today's current events to those, you know, who aren't buried in the past.

[pagar]

More Washington Post non-reporting!

http://www.cis.org/north/alleged-murderer-illegal-alien-washington-post-will-not-say-so

IMO, it should be a crime to non-report this type of stuff.

[narciso]

They must really concerned to be posting this swill, then again it's only Zuul.

[Danube on iPad]

Can anyone figure what Dana Gilbert Ward of Pitzer College thinks is relevant about a half-century-old JCS memo that was never acted upon? Why not bring up the plot to give Castro an exploding cigar?

[Danube on iPad]

I do not think Dana knows what "context" means.

[Frank CHurch]

'Never acted upon'

Context is a 2nd language for you, but I assume you read English because you are responding to text. You should read more. It's good for you.

[narciso]

'He really cares, about what I have no idea?

[narciso]

Well as long as you're blathering;

http://www.sarahnet.net/sarahnet-news/9412-video-sarah-palin-joins-eric-bolling-aug-10-2013.html

[Frank CHurch]

'Sudden, relentless reform' It's a game changer.

[Jack is Back!]

Not to mention the use of Cubab interrogators and torturers on our POW's in North Vietnam. They were considered much more brutal and blood thirsty than the NVA.

[Jack is Back!]

Cuban

[narciso]

The details are here;

http://www2.fiu.edu/~fcf/warcrimes.cuba.vietnam.html

[Danube on iPad]

"I assume you read English"

When I read things like "I only provide it for context in today's current events," I question your ability to write it.

[Danube on iPad]

"Never acted upon," as in "Kennedy rejected the proposal."

[Ignatz]

--Uh, I think Northwoods was AFTER BoP...--

My mistake.

[matt]

There's a new book out on JFK's last 100 days that was reviewed in today's WSJ. Apparently Jack had some very serious issues.

He had signed off on the coup in Vietnam, he had serious issues with the DoD over Vietnam, where they did not want to go.His philandering was out of control until Jackie lost the baby, and even then he still had a tryst with one Ellen Rometsch, a possible East German agent who was deported by Bobby.

Bobby Baker, LBJ's fixer, was the chief procurer and LBJ had to direct Congress away from the president's adultery.JFK was apparently afraid of a coup by the JCS and urged John Frankenheimer to make 7 Days in May.

Apparently the book is impeccably researched, but despite some major achievements, his was a much more complex environment than we have realized to date. Camelot was pretty byzantine.

[Danube on iPad]

What were his major achievements?

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

I never doubted that Camelot was extremely scummy.

A letter to Rupert's dead tree points out what a sterling opportunity the Repubs witlessly squandered by going along with Gaylord exempting Congress from FockerCare instead of pushing back against what was surely illegal. Every time I see Preibus grinning like a witless popinjay I think of the French Revolution.

[Frank CHurch]

"When I read things like "I only provide it for context in today's current events," I question your ability to write it."

I didn't write the post, but whether or not my expression of 'context' meets your otherworldly standard, you might want to read the links.

Then again, maybe not.

[narciso]

Well there is the taz cut, for the decision with the most impact, you have to consider the authorization of private sector unions, and the Diem coup, which was very significant for the future, according to Moyar.

[narciso]

This is it;

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324328904578624671598951306.html

[narciso]

heh and snorfle;

http://twitchy.com/2013/08/10/matt-drudge-hears-huffpo-lost-7-million-last-year/

[Gmax]

41% approval in an Adult survey. Ya gotta hand it to Barry, its not easy to be universally bad at every damn thing he attempts. No, you have to work extremely hard at being that far off center.

[Frank CHurch]

PuffHo-good. {collaborators}

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Hard to imagine Zsa Zsa being the story behind the success...

[Frau Venus von Willendorf]

Iggy - Loved Phil Harris who loved Alice Faye.

(BTW - You and I may be the only ones in the small, exclusive subset of King of the Hill fans.)

[Frank CHurch]

Just like the Alien and Sedition Act, the true legacy of the Federalists, the Sedition Act of 1918 fails the smell test.

"The 1917 Espionage Act was enacted just after the US went to war with Imperial Germany. It was twinned with a Sedition Act a year later, as this site explains : “Congress passed the Sedition Act of 1918, which made it a federal offense to use “disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language” about the Constitution, the government, the American uniform, or the flag. The government prosecuted over 2,100 people under these acts.”

In other words, the Espionage Act deployed against Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden is a manifestation of war fever and nationalist fascism from the early 20th century, and likely is unconstitutional, just as most of the Sedition Act has been ruled to be. It does not speak well of Mr. Obama that he is using this sort of tool to govern."

Juan Cole

[Frank CHurch]

Getting warmer?

"One of the most incendiary details in the documents is that Blackwater, through Total Intelligence, sought to become the “intel arm” of Monsanto, offering to provide operatives to infiltrate activist groups organizing against the multinational biotech firm. – emphasis added."

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/monsanto-turns-to-blackwater-for-increased-security-intelligence-and-infiltrate-activist-groups-23474/

[sbwaters]

Juan Cole. Sigh.

[Jack is Back!]

LOL. Citing Juan Cole as any kind of authority on National Security matters is like citing Snoopy on WWI fighter plane tactics.

[Frau Steingehirn]

After "Ding Dong Daddy" came "Sixty Minute Man."