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August 27, 2013

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bgates

Hey, everybody. Thought I'd stick my head up to say thanks for the birthday wishes; I celebrated by having a nice dinner and getting strep throat, and I've been asleep or a zombie ever since. Catching up:
HB/HA as appropriate;
sorry about the property Iggy;

Biden said "if Bush does it, I'll back a move to impeach him."
I'm quite sure he'd affirm every word of that sentence. Literally, every word.

Wouldn't the Sauds keep the prices down
They would have to if they were dealing with an ally, or even a junior partner. One does not need to bargain with the help.

Iirc, after he was captured Saddam himself said he thought he had them.
According to this CBS interview with his interrogator, he knew he didn't but planned to reconstitute the whole program (NBC) after what he anticipated would be a short, "Desert Fox"-style bombing campaign he could absorb.

just muscular enough not to get mocked
This goal prevents itself.

--or assert that international law has changed--
Huh?

As one of Obama's role models once said, "When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal".

He's surrounded by generals, Cabinet secretaries and foreign policy liberals, and is struggling to project an aura of command while weighing the options and associated scenarios.
Well, they do need a picture, and all the best Photoshop people are busy giving Michelle the horseshoe triceps she's always wanted.

Obama is either in violation of the Constitution or Congress accepts his ability to make war without the consent of Congress.
Why not both?

No, what the Obama administration appears to want is a limited, finite series of strikes that will be carefully calibrated to send a message and cause the just-right amount of pain. It wants to set Assad back but it doesn’t want to cause death and mayhem. So the most likely option is probably to destroy a bunch of government or military infrastructure — much of which will probably be empty.
Don't need to waste a Tomahawk on that - just send Bill Ayers over.

Porchlight

Poverty,race, and ethnicity are treated as be all and end alls by the current admin.

Yep, and if your alma mater is like mine, "sustainability" (environmental not fiscal, natch) is right behind. I swear diversity and sustainability are all anyone at my school ever talks about anymore, at lesat when I visit.

That's part of what makes the "anything between 2 covers" story so poignant.

True.

Clarice

DoT, Around here, it's quite easy for blacks with any sort of decent education an grades (not even top grades) to get into Stanford. I saw this at the private school with which I am most familiar. some astonishing picks..but then, remember, they also want to say they have students from every state and black applicants from D.C. must be in short supply.

O hate AA in admissions, It's part and parcel of the credential (like cargo cult) society where people stupidly believe its the credential alone that creates success

NK

The Grievance Industry Convention: 20K (tops) show in DC. That's it? The Dems may be in real trouble in 2014. QE's ending, gas prices are high and could go higher, no jobs, and Obummer may piss off his base even with'limited' attacks against Assad-- and if Hezbollah retaliate against the USA with mass casualties, 2014 could be a complete disaster for Dems. Works for me.

jimmyk

Porch is right. Of course the top schools can get qualified students. But the resources devoted are large, and the notion of diversity they value is twisted. And I would bet that even at Harvard/Princeton/Yale/Stanford the success rate for minorities is below that of non-minorities.

jimmyk

Porch is right. Of course the top schools can get qualified students. But the resources devoted are large, and the notion of diversity they value is twisted. And I would bet that even at Harvard/Princeton/Yale/Stanford the success rate for minorities is below that of non-minorities.

Porchlight

DoT, Around here, it's quite easy for blacks with any sort of decent education an grades (not even top grades) to get into Stanford.

My younger brother is a white guy whose name happens to sound African-American. When he applied to UC schools he checked "other" in the race box. He was accepted at Stanford and Berkeley, even though his grades sucked. He went to UC Santa Cruz (his first choice because no grades) and ended up taking courses from Tom Lehrer and Angela Davis.

666_cathyf_says_typepad_sucks_333
But my alma mater is in the top ten small liberal arts colleges and the diversity game is still hurting them because they spend way too many resources on it.
Carleton is a top-10 small liberal arts college. They are not in the top-20 for ALL colleges. They are precisely the schools that are trying to find "diversity" out of the wildly unbalanced picked-over leftover minorities after the top-20 finished taking way more than their share.
Porchlight

I picked up Give Us a Kiss at the library (Woe to Live On wasn't available) and noted on the dust jacket that the Dolly clan is in this. Did he create the equivalent of Yoknapatawpha County only in the Ozarks?

That's so interesting - perhaps he did. I know there was another book after Give Us A Kiss called Tomato Red and I think he continued some of the characters or families in that one. I own it but I didn't much take to it so I haven't finished it.

Anyway, he wouldn't be the first Ozark writer to do that. Donald Harington was a simply superb writer who created a Yoknapatawpha in the Arkansas Ozarks called Stay More over the course of a dozen novels or so. He was my favorite living novelist until he died in 2007.

Extraneus

When he applied to UC schools he checked "other" in the race box.

I love reading that. Just like the INS coaching Mexicans to say there's a "credible threat" in order to avoid deportation, there should be a mass movement to enter "other" on all applications for employment or education. Who would have the guts to ask about it?

"You're not white?"

"Well, no. I'm kinda tan, actually."

Cloward and Piven would be proud. Alinsky, too.

Danube on iPad

"It wants to set Assad back but it doesn’t want to cause death and mayhem."

If true, this is as frivolous an application of military power as any I can think of.

Threadkiller

http://mcclintock.house.gov/2013/08/congressman-tom-mcclintock-issued-the-following-statement-today-regarding-reports-of-impending-milit.shtml

Porchlight

Extraneus, my brother has one of those naturally anti-authoritarian personalities. It was so totally *him* to do that, even though he's a lefty. My parents thought it was pretty funny too.

Porchlight

Carleton is a top-10 small liberal arts college. They are not in the top-20 for ALL colleges. They are precisely the schools that are trying to find "diversity" out of the wildly unbalanced picked-over leftover minorities after the top-20 finished taking way more than their share.

Overall that's correct, cathyf, but small liberal arts colleges have to be the first choices for at least some of the top-flight minority students. Not everyone chooses Stanford or Harvard or Yale even if they have their pick.

Danube on iPad

Porch, Stanford is a private school; it's not in the UC system. Youngest stepdaughter bailed out of Santa Cruz because all the students did was blow dope. She transferred to Santa Barbara.

Porchlight

Right, DoT, I screwed that up. He applied to all the UC schools collectively resulting in acceptance to Berkeley and a few others, but he did check the "other" box for Stanford, too. ;)

Clarice

In my son's freshman dorm at Harvard was a young black kid from upstate NY whose dad was a cab driver, He clearly had nt had much of a college prep background but wanted to be a doctor. After spending a lot of time and effort trying unsuccessfully to pass remedial science courses to bring him up to high school level, he finally switched to Black studies. If he'd begun at a lower level state college he might actually have become a doctor.

Now, of course, a hidden feature of Obamacare is a requirement for significant numbers (quotas) of minority kids in medical schools so b=perhaps he wouldn't actually have needed to pass his courses.

Old Lurker

We had a lilly white neighbor girl who used to babysit for us who was dumb as a post. So dumb she thought since she was born here, that made her a Native American.

Got offered admission to great schools to which she had not even applied.

Account Deleted

"If true, this is as frivolous an application of military power as any I can think of."

DoT,

Doesn't it stink of McNamara and the "measured application of force" which he (as a super credentialed moron) sold LBJ as the path to "forcing North Vietnam to the bargaining table"?

Prime Minister Cameron is taking a rain check on participation in President Weak Horse's amazing Syrian adventure. The President should have stuck with leading from his behind.

Clarice

Heh, OL. My son had to explain to a fellow student from Tunisia who had a green card that he was not an "African American".

bgates

there should be a mass movement to enter "other" on all applications

I think there were a couple of college applications where it said "Race" and I checked "Other" and then it said "Specify" so I wrote in "800m".

DrJ

bgates, I always entered "Teutonic." I can't say if it worked or made any difference, but I did get into all the schools where I applied. Even for graduate school.

jimmyk

Sorry for the double post above.

The discussion reminds me that I meant to ask after Henry's original post about Yale: Are East Asians "people of color"? Arabs? North Africans? The whole game is so ridiculous.

narciso

So it's just him and Hollandaise, maybe a few German Tornados, or am I behind the curve.

Old Lurker

OK I give up. Tired three times to poke fun at bgates but Tpad seems tired of my sense of humor.

narciso

Well they still seem to have some, but the Eurofighter seems to be their primary weapons.

henry

Jimmyk, to get that number (37%) is it all you listed plus "Latino"? Another 10% were imports (hockey team?) leaving 53% domestic not "of color". Gender is not broken out, has been 60%+ female since the 90s. Thus only 21% are domestic males not of color, mostly athletes & singers from what I can tell.

bgates

people of color

It's such a phrase of stupid. Besides indicating an ideology of loathsome, it isn't the way to write English of correct.

Gmax

So the Brits are out, sidelined by the left ( known as Labour there ). Meanwhile Momma Sheehan is nowhere to be found. Most lefties here seem to be on their knee pads hoping to service their fearless leader.

narciso

Considering who are the sponsors of this thing, one wonders if the General, who supposedly gave the order, wasn't given a little incentive, to do what he would ordinarily do

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/28/obama-weve-concluded-that-syrian-army-conducted-chemical-weapon-attack/


I got the notion, from that midseries Vince Flynn offering executive decision, and the fact that the leading Phalange commander who
directed the raid on Sabra and Schatila, rather promptly defected to the Syrian side,


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bgates,

You only write that because you're a person of cursive. Do you celebrate every birthday with a nice dinner and strep throat?

rse

When we were coming bank from Fairbanks in mid-September years ago after alaska cruise denali trip, there were several students on way to stanford. All Inuit.

I must say though Red and her friend have decided since she loves business and he clearly gets a bit of special treatment that they should go into business as partners. I just heard that gambit recently.

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It's such a phrase of stupid. Besides indicating an ideology of loathsome, it isn't the way to write English of correct.

Oh my goodness, bgates! That is too excellent!

Extraneus

"Just don't call my bluff, Assad. Please don't call my bluff."

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You only write that because you're a person of cursive.

Hahaahahaa!

Gmax

Don't you wonder about the fools who entrusted this absolute moron with the keys to the full military arsenal, as in do they regret that decision and will it dawn on them that the retaliation terrorist strike can be pinned on his weak and quivering response that has been repeated in country after country in the ME.

Ranger

"Just don't call my bluff, Assad. Please don't call my bluff."

Obama on Syria: 'I have not made a decision'

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/08/obama-on-syria-i-have-not-made-a-decision-171383.html

"I have not made a decision," he told the "PBS News Hour” in his most extensive comments since the Aug. 21 attack in the outskirts of Damascus.

Bluff called.

And this:

"When you start talking about chemical weapons in a country that has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the world, where over time, their control over chemical weapons may erode, where they’re allied to known terrorist organizations that, in the past, have targeted the United States, then there is a prospect, a possibility, in which chemical weapons that can have devastating effects could be directed at us," he said. "And we want to make sure that that does not happen."

So, I guess that's the "imminent threat."

Captain Hate on an iPhone

Listening to Slick's pandering today being played on Levin's show illustrates that some people are willing to listen to a convicted liar and act like he's telling the truth.

Jim Miller

One of the things that I sometimes wonder about is how our schools and governments here in Washington state are cheating on our civil rights initiative, I-200.

Here's the central language:

"The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting."

Our public universities and colleges hated it, and so I have always assumed they were -- to the extent they could -- cheating.

But I haven't seen -- and don't expect to see -- any of our journalists investigate that question.

Very occasionally, you get some hints. There is, for instance, a former Seattle school official who was stealing money from the district by running what was supposedly a small business outreach program. It seemed likely, from the news stories, that only small businesses owned by minorities were even supposed to be helped by the program.

narciso

Well he always stuck in my craw, then again I followed the Spectator, the Telegraph in Mark Steyn in that order.

sbwaters

I suppose that a business owned by a woman used to be a minority-owned business, but now, if it is owned by a man, it would be a minority-owned business.

It's vexing to keep things straight.

Ranger

And a little bit more muddled clarity from the bablegaffer in chief:

He's considering "limited, tailored approaches, not getting drawn into a long conflict, not a repetition of, you know, Iraq, which I know a lot of people are worried about," he said.

What he's hoping for, he added, is to, in "a clear and decisive but very limited way ... send a shot across the bow saying, stop doing this, that can have a positive impact on our national security over the long term."

So, just how many congress critters are going to vote for that approach?

maryrose

There is a way out for Obama -that is if he isn't too proud to take it.He needs to follow cameron's example. He needs the UN or congress cover. Otherwise-he continues to twist in the wind as he is doing now.
DOT: His reasons for bombing are ludicrous. He is a disgrace as CIC.

Extraneus

some people are willing to listen to a convicted liar and act like he's telling the truth

They're not just willing. They absolutely love him for that. Truly and deeply.


maryrose

Ranger and jimmyk:
Love your comments and agree wholeheartedly.
Happy early anniversary CH!

Jane - the squaw

I'm here to announce I am officially an Indian, ala Lizzy warren, from now on. I have a pix in my dining room of my grandmother in braids and an indian dress which as we all know is the standard AND my grandfather told me I am from horse thieves and Indians, so I have officially adopted that position. I'm hoping it will keep the NSA off my back.

All I need is a new name.

narciso el taino

They do seem to have 'jumped the ghost shark'

centralcal

Why a new name, Jane? Lizzie Warren kept her same name.

Account Deleted

Jane,

Figure out which tribe and have "princess daughter of liberty" translated.

PS - can you get me a good room rate at your casino?

Rob Crawford
"When you start talking about chemical weapons in a country that has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the world, where over time, their control over chemical weapons may erode, where they’re allied to known terrorist organizations that, in the past, have targeted the United States, then there is a prospect, a possibility, in which chemical weapons that can have devastating effects could be directed at us," he said. "And we want to make sure that that does not happen."

This douchebag had better beg for Bush to forgive his party's backstabbing.

Extraneus

It's ok, Janeawatha. Lots of us are native Americans. Why my own dear old mom probably made Mexican oatmeal soup. It looked like something that would have been called that, anyway.

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from henry's post about Yale college freshmen - and 37 percent of the freshmen are U.S. citizens or permanent residents who identify themselves as students of color.

You are an Indian, Jane. All anyone has to do is say so.
Get some Pigford money too....nobody checks any claims about that either.
You are an Indian that wanted to farm.

Danube of Thought

Doesn't it stink of McNamara and the "measured application of force" which he (as a super credentialed moron) sold LBJ as the path to "forcing North Vietnam to the bargaining table"?

Absolutely spot-on. I was going to go into that, but was on the iPad so I didn't want to get started. The very name, "Rolling Thunder," betrayed the mindset. I think LBJ was a willing participant in implementing it; he used to dream of offering to build a TVA in North Vietnam if only he'd give up. All it would take was a little more pressure...

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Maybe we can get Creepy-ass Cracka listed as an official tribe?

Jeff Dobbs

bgates:
It's such a phrase of stupid. Besides indicating an ideology of loathsome, it isn't the way to write English of correct.

I would just note that the grammatical problem arises when the object of the preposition is an adjective.

Phrases that employ the form "[noun] of [noun]" are still acceptable.

Pulling a random example off the top of my head, "Obama is a piece of shit" is correct as a matter of grammar.

It also carries the distinction of being true.

narciso el taino

Honestly what womders what Ailes goal is sometimes,


http://therightscoop.com/condescending-billo-tries-to-argue-with-a-couple-of-military-experts-on-syria/

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It looked like something that would have been called that, anyway.

Hahahaaahah! Too funny! I'm definitely that kind of cook.

narciso el taino

I somehow don't think that alliance will persevere;


http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/28/are-the-saudis-looking-for-a-new-partner-in-the-middle-east/

bgates

Rick, usually I do either/or.

When you start talking about chemical weapons in a country that has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the world, where over time, their control over chemical weapons may erode, where they’re allied to known terrorist organizations that, in the past, have targeted the United States, then there is a prospect, a possibility, in which chemical weapons that can have devastating effects could be directed at us, and we want to make sure that that does not happen....not a repetition of, you know, Iraq

Well, right, because when you start talking about a country between Turkey and Iran that has been known to accumulate chemical weapons and even use them against its own citizens, and a two-term 21st century American President thinking of targeting that country to prevent those weapons from coming under the control of terrorist groups which have been known to work with the country in the past, the first thing you notice is how un-Iraqi it all sounds.

Extraneus

Wouldn't it be easier to just send over some special forces to help Assad maintain control of the WMDs so they wouldn't come under the control of rebel uh al Qaeda uh terrorist groups?

Janesun - the squaw

"PS - can you get me a good room rate at your casino?"

That's my tribe - the Mohegan Sun people. I even have their card in my wallet.

The room is comp-ed for you Rick.

narciso el taino

Well that would be imminently logical, hasn't Ted Cruz suggested something like that?

Janesun - the squaw

Some German newspaper is reporting that Obama got his info that Assad used the WMD from Israel.

That makes no sense to me at all . The last thing Israel wants is Obama throwing show bombs at the Syrians.

Anyone disagree.

narciso el taino

Well they did try to take out the proximate facility back in May, and I trust the Unit 8200
however, Bashir on his own is a manageable problem, hezbollah or Hamas, with those weapons,
katie bar the door.

Rob Crawford
The last thing Israel wants is Obama throwing show bombs at the Syrians.

Yeah, but how useful would a little Judenhass be for the European powers right now?

Ignatz

--Some German newspaper is reporting that Obama got his info that Assad used the WMD from Israel.--

There was a report several days ago that Israeli intelligence had intercepted Syrian communications along those lines.

Ignatz

Why can't we get game shows like Raptor Prank?

matt

I'll be on base tomorrow nite at Bragg, which will be interesting. Snake eaters and special ops and airborne troopers, oh my!

narciso el taino

Cool Matt,

narciso el taino

More Skydragon nests need to be uncovered;

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/27/former-obama-czar-says-we-need-more-fear-of-global-warming/

Clarice

matt, you DO get around-from graffiti artists to Ft Bragg. XOXO

Jane on Ipad hi there NSA

Why would Israel give that info to Obama? It's like asking to be wiped out. What am I missing.

jimmyk

Jimmyk, to get that number (37%) is it all you listed plus "Latino"?

I hadn't noticed the question mark. I don't know, but my guess would be that Asians don't count as "people of color," as universities discriminate against them. And if Arabs are "people of color" then Jews should be as well, given that they come from the same part of the world. Ok, so maybe Jews' genes have been diluted a bit, but no more than Lizzie Warren's.

henry

Maybe distraction for their own strike? The world follows the hindmost into full dithering bluster... A regime is zapped... The world is relived for an n-sec... Thenfigure out stopping the mullahs is on them.

bgates

Iggy, don't knock our game shows. They've given us gems like these.

Host: Husband Number Three, what's your favorite part of our set on The Newlywed Game?

HNT: (pause, sidelong glance) I'd have to say Wife Number Two....

DrJ

my guess would be that Asians don't count as "people of color"

Asians did not "count" when back in the day the then-MrsJ went back to school. Not even for statistical purposes.

henry

Jimmyk, that was just the blurb from a send money email. I have to wait for the alumni mag (maybe) or corp report to get detailed rainbow data. I think they count Jews as WASPs for diversity purposes (same as Asians).

jimmyk

Had a Syrian cabbie tonight, by coincidence. A Greek Orthodox guy. First he tells us how he was over here on a visitor's visa, and somehow managed to have his wife here and have three kids (presumably both he and his wife were here illegally by then). Got his kids American passports before sending them and his wife back to Syria, from where she is applying for some kind of legal status here. He said they're in Latakia, which is safe. Then he starts into how "Assad is a great guy," etc. We surmised that maybe he's been good for the Christians there. It seems that they support him in any case.

Anyway, that's what I got out of the 10 minute taxi ride.

Clarice

Jane, they share such intelligence daily. It's in their ultimate interest that the US knows what it knows.

Ranger

We surmised that maybe he's been good for the Christians there. It seems that they support him in any case.

Actually, yes. The Alawites have stitched together a coalition of minorities (including Christians and Kurds) to maintain power over the Sunni majority.

Ranger

BTW, this would indicate that Assad's forces on back on the ropes:

Syria rebels seize strategic town, execute Alawite cleric: activists

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/26/us-syria-crisis-rebels-idUSBRE97P0FG20130826

Rebel forces took control of a strategic town in northern Syria on Monday, cutting off government forces' only supply route out of the city of Aleppo, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

Funny how that didn't make the headlines in the US, given how important Syria has been the last few days.

Danube on iPad

I learn more about the Middle East here than I can learn from the international media. It's not close. (As with anything else, one has to do a bit of sifting.)

rich@gmu

Evening all. Fast moving thread. Happy Birthdays and Anniversaries all around.

this ::"just muscular enough not to get mocked".

omg. did an official in DC say this? a living, breathing person drawing a Tresury check uttered those words...the sum and substance of our Syria policy consists of "just muscular enough not to get mocked". this is going to be an epic disaster.


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Rich,

It's good to know some of the Monty Python writers have found steady work.

Ignatz

"just muscular enough not to get mocked"

They cannot possibly be talking about this guy;

Clarice

Two new inks from a poster now under deep cover:All farms selling goods for more than $5,000 must submit said goods to FDA for testing.

http://benswann.com/fda-s-secret-war-on-raw-milk-and-organic-farming/

Here's the Bill: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s510/text

Also, the DiploMad has a good one up: http://thediplomad.blogspot.com/2013/08/bomb-until-we-think-of-something-to-do.html

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Perhaps Vogue editor & Obama worshiper Anna Wintour could get us the inside scoop from Asma al-Assad.

"She's breezy, conspiratorial, and fun. Her accent is English but not plummy. Despite what must be a killer IQ, she sometimes uses urban shorthand: "I was, like. . . .""

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/01/the-only-remaining-online-copy-of-vogues-asma-al-assad-profile/250753/

Threadkiller

I hope to see the cabbie's kid inaugurated as POTUS one day, just as the Founders intended.

Threadkiller

If you get hung up on this being from InfoWars you will miss out on the latest on the mortgage fraud:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WOx82ENJn0

MERSy doos and donts and a little scamsidizy...

Clarice

Talk about flying blind:http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/28/state_dept_admits_it_doesnt_know_who_in_the_syrian_govt_ordered_chemical_strike

Our undercover friend indicates the WSJ is reporting Yellin has thrown in the towel. Summers will have the job.

Gus (back from Dixie)

Jane, I'm quite sure the TEA PARTY is to blame.

Clarice

http://theaviationist.com/2013/08/28/wc-135c-syria/

U.S. WC-135C nuclear radiation sniffing plane spotted over Europe. En-route to Syria?
Aug 28 2013 - 2 Comments

Rob Crawford
All farms selling goods for more than $5,000 must submit said goods to FDA for testing.

At current prices and estimated productivity, you can hit this with an acre of apple trees. That's about 60 trees.

I really, really hate these bastards.

Gus (back from Dixie)

It's for your own good Rob. Soylent green is on sale.

Gus (back from Dixie)

I think it's always best to ignore crisis' and make idle threats all the whilst playing cards with your Love, Reggie. Let a year or two or 3 go by, so that you are ear deep in shyte. Then act.

HOPE AND CHANGE!!

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All farms selling goods for more than $5,000 must submit said goods to FDA for testing.

What if they don't? Why do we have to obey some rules & laws while IRS, EPA, etc. people don't obey other rules & laws?

Reminds me of this story - http://freebeacon.com/clothing-store-fined-3-9-million-by-feds-over-drawstrings/

FTA - "Children’s garments with drawstrings are not banned, but retailers can face substantial fines for not reporting the apparel to the agency."

jimmyk

What if they don't? Why do we have to obey some rules & laws while IRS, EPA, etc. people don't obey other rules & laws?

You do know about the Dept of Agriculture swat team, right?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/14111-bureaucrats-%E2%80%9Cgiddy%E2%80%9D-with-%E2%80%9Cnewly-minted-power%E2%80%9D

Gus (back from Dixie)

Jimmyk. Why do you hate the government. They want to help you.

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Wow, jimmyk. That link along with knowing the EPA was/is giving farmer & rancher info to enviro groups is something.

"...the groups Earth Justice, the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Pew Charitable Trust. They were given information on roughly 80,000 farmers and ranchers."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/09/epa-acknowledges-giving-out-personal-info-in-request-that-included-data-on/#ixzz2dKRMXeV3

jimmyk

You're right, Gus. I must be a racist.

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