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September 09, 2013

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narciso

The Russians certainly had more of a role, developing the weaponizing capacity, of course, the notion they were the lesser evil, fostered by Labour as well as Tories didn't help;

http://technologysecurity.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/cutting-off-supplies-of-nerve-gas-and-wmd-equipment/

Marko

Let us all agree that Obama will suffer humiliation akin to that spread on Jimmy Carter. What, then, will happen? The end of Obamacare? Debt restructuring? The truth of Benghazi? IRS? NSA? EIEIO?

The infrastructure is so massively corrupt that not even this sort of blow can affect it. Were Nixon President now would he walk away unscathed?

Nothing matters. Nothing.

DublinDave

History will remember that a monster who used chemical weapons on women and children pissed his panties when threatened by the Obama administration and moved quickly relinquished control of them.

President Obama forced a tyrant to give up his weapons of- sorry.... his actual weapons of mass destruction. Not one shot fired, not one American soldier dead. And we didn't plunge America into debt.

They say it's the waiting that gets to you and Obama arguing with Congress to bring down the sword of Damocles on top of Assad's regime was just too much for the scumbag to take.

Three dimensional chess.

Meanwhile,back in Congress,Republicans are gearing up for a very important session in which three-you heard me-three post offices will be officially re-named.

narciso

Redskins within 6, just over a minute.

dublinDave

sorry...to relinquish...

narciso

That's because they 'bobble' the ball, at first chance.

Sandy Daze

I fully agree with you DoT, and in fact, removed the "NoSyria" sign from the front of my home, around 1900 today.

John & Barry's Most Excellent mis-adventure in Syria has ended before it really started. Thank God.

This also pretty much stops the civil war in some manner, I do not see Assad going anywhere. Sure, fighting will continue, at a low level, and perhaps will not end for the next decade or longer. But, with Russian troops on the ground, verifying and transshipping chem weapons--well at least that is what will be reported--there will be ample opportunity on the margins for extra-curricular activities.

In such an environment, Assad's security will be guaranteed.

At the end of the day, this is about the best result that could be hoped for. No bombing, no military engagement, no embarrassment for 44 from a down vote in Congress, no Constitutional crisis in the making, the opportunity for Congress to refocus on, oh,
BENGHAZI
IRS
NSA
F&F
etcetera

You know, I'd almost call it a miracle. Except for this being the most inept cabinet evah, one does pause to wonder if a Divine hand was not at work...? Afterall, Pope Francis did call for Catholics and all persons opposed to the 44 Regime's idiocy, to pray and fast last Saturday against a 'kinetic response.'

You be the judge of your own conscience.

But something wonderful happened, and I for one, am mighty glad it did.

Vires et Honestas.

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The domestic political aspect may be closing but the Cannibals were promised the US Air Cavalry was just over the horizon. President Weak Horse's Arab Spring is ending in complete failure and let's hope the Harvard Faculty Lounge foreign policy group doesn't turn their half wits to exacerbating any other problems.

Surely Clinton, Powers and Rice should be satisfied with having killed 200K Mahometans for nothing.

narciso

They are still looking for the ponie, over in Turkey:

http://www.todayszaman.com/blogNewsDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=325841

dublinDave

"Let us all agree that Obama will suffer humiliation akin to that spread on Jimmy Carter. What, then, will happen? The end of Obamacare? Debt restructuring? The truth of Benghazi? IRS? NSA? EIEIO?"

"Let us all agree"...... so justoneminute is the political version of Dungeons and Dragons?

Let us all agree that GOP scandal mongering hasn't gone to plan because looking for evidence to support a pre-determined outcome is the basis of psychosis (a subject I'm slightly familiar with).

Just deal with the facts in an objective manner and you won't have our heart broken and/or be prescribed heavy doses of pharmaceuticals to help you cope with the reality you find yourself in (eg; Obama Presidency is successful, Conservatism is a failed ideology, there will be a third party pushing out all the right-wing radical elements).

Sandy Daze

Perhaps the Cannibals will start consuming their own...

if they need lessons, they can ask the clean toga crowd.

I am also pleased that the bobsie twins (Mac in particular) will now be seen less frequently.

narciso

Eli LAke points out that concern voiced earlier;


UN Weapons inspection didn't work well in the 1990s against a hostile regime. How will it work against hostile regime fighting a civil war?

but they had nothing to bluff with.

Sandy Daze

I have no illusions that the actual inspections will work, narc--but is not about actions per se, just the semblance of such.

Ignatz

I'm somewhat confused (as usual). Assuming this is over, which I think may be premature, wasn't the unacceptable red line the use of chemical weapons, not their possession?

So even if we subscribe to the fiction Castro Assad is giving anything up as the Russians pull the IRBMs Sarin out, we're accepting and rubber stamping war crimes and he stays in power?

Did Santayana write this script using the Cuban missile crisis as the template?

centralcal

Oh, you guys - somebody on Twitter has this all figured out:

couldn't we just send in Dennis Rodman to monitor the chemical weapons. Makes as much sense.

narciso

Prince Bandar must be miffed, they got the former Defense minister out of mothball, now they won't be any 'earth shattering kaboom,

Sandy Daze

Yes, and we don't subscribe to the fiction, 44 and Kerry, Vlad and Bashar, they're the ones who subscribe to the fiction.

We're in the cheap seats, along for the ride.

Heh. 44 drove the car into the ditch, and Putin pulled it out and said, "I'll drive, I've seen what you do behind the wheel."

Me, I'm just sipping a slurpee.

narciso

Yes, Ignatz, but the pull my finger factor, was even more pronounced.

narciso

Neither Vlad nor Bashir are under that delusion, you end up like Moe Green, ahem
Bugsy Siegel that way.

Sandy Daze

Well, the Cannibals could dial it up to, what is your number--?--eleventimillion--and unambiguously use some Chems themselves.

Then, would 44 have to launch a strike against those dastardly Cannibals to uphold nearly 100 years of international convention?

Skoot

What a day. Who knows what O will be goaded into saying or doing tomorrow. I'll go out on a limb and predict the gas is flying on 11 Sep. What's O gonna do about it? The world saw congress reject him. Putin will call for him to be tried at the Hague if he lobs a Tomahawk now. It's going to be an interesting week.

Ignatz

WeeDavey,
You've lost your mojo and have become tedious and repetitive.
A boring troll is a useless troll.

jimmyk

wasn't the unacceptable red line the use of chemical weapons, not their possession?

Good question, Ig, one that the media will not ask.

But I think even semi-informed voters will have a vague sense that Barry got punked.

Jim Miller

Very off topic, but some of you may find it interesting:

A Seattle baptism celebration that turned into a
riot.

What intrigued me about it was that the AP left out almost all the interesting details. Probably the AP reporter was just re-writing a police blotter, but he or she may have been hiding something.

Sandy Daze
Syria is becoming the La Brea Tarpit of Democratic ambitions. It’s pulling one dinosaur after the other into the quagmire, as each tries to help the other out. Before the end of this the entire top tier of the party will be in the morass. Obama, Kerry and Hillary, the whole lot of them.
HEH.
Clarice

Hilarius take off on those stupid Obama ads--Help Obama Kickstart WWIIIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z-sdO6pwVHQ#t=117

Gus

Johnny Kohn Kerry Heinz could pee all over his over priced, WIFE FINANCED shoes, and LIBTARDS would say it was raining. Kerry is a JOKE.

Gus

Bingo Ignatz. There are some here among us, who have tried to engage and be friendly with WEE WEE DOUCHE BAG DAVEY. Big mistake. Never try to be friends with a slime bag whose interests are polar opposite to yours.

Dave (in MA)


"Strange. My hand can feel my forehead, but not vice-versa. Lovey!!!"

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Sandy,

As word of Obama's betrayal spreads among the Cannibals, I would bet on a steady shrinkage at roll call. Some may stick around to become good Mahometans, hoping for their raisins, but many will catch the first camel out of Dodge.

Sandy Daze

I agree Rick, the fever has broken.

narciso

There will be many 'I volunteered for jihad, but all I got was this lousy t-shirt'

Sandy Daze

Great KICKSTARTER, Clarice !

Sandy Daze

Maybe God really does look out for America. The Syrian crisis has done the nation the incredible favor of exposing a potential system failure early, like having a mild heart attack and finding that your arteries are nearly 99% blocked and only a miracle saved you from the Big One. But warnings only work when they are heeded. The administration and its supporters are heedless.

Maybe.

Clarice

I ask..doesn't it look like someone transplanted a dead man's face on Kerry?

Sandy Daze

HEH. The embodiment of a Dead Man Walking, Clarice.

Gus

Kerry looks like someone hit him with an UGLY STICK. In fact, he is starting to look VERY MUCH like his, errrrrrrrrrr, wife.

narciso

Doesn't he look like the cat that ate the canary;

Gus

Clarice, once upon a time, horse face Kerry looked almost sympathetic. Now he looks a little like John Gotti.

Gus

What amazes me, is people like KERRY and the rest of the LIBTARD PARTY, sacrificing their own DIGNITY, so as to be able to be a SUCK UP to OBAMA. It's so HITLER-esque. The ONE SHOT A GLORY!!!! Clearly Kerry is a effing DOUCHE BAG...BUT....Kerry has had a long career, and Kerry has had his ass licked for so so so many years. BUT THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH FOR HIM. He tried to EXTEND HIS CAREER, by being a YES-BOY for the biggest COMMIE-LOSER-FRAUD-in history.

Elliott

Did Santayana write this script using the Cuban missile crisis as the template?

Perhaps John Cleese is trying to work his way out from under after his latest divorce with The Life of a Hawaiian. President Weak Horse? I'm sure Pontius Pilate was trying to say President Recourse. Recourse to the G20, to Congress, and of course to international redlines, which he will now paint 100 times on the side of the White House.

Clarice

He has done something horrible to it.Maybe all the plastic surgery,botox and sun tan beds have killed off the top layers ..Reminds me a little of Michael Jackson's last days now that I think of it.

Clarice

Guys trust me on this one--you need to look at Second City's kickstart video. More stuff like this and we could win.

narciso

You thought that pic was unflattering, others are even less kind;

http://www.thenational.ae/featured-content/channel-page/news/world/middle-teaser/russia-offers-face-saving-deal-on-syria-crisis

Gus

Clarice, Johnny Kohn Kerry Heinz, looks like an OLD BOXER now.

Captain Hate on an iPhone

I'm telling you guys, Thurston Howell the Turd went whining to Lovey when that mean Sarah Palin made all those parvenu soldiers laugh at his long face and he went to the plastic surgeon to get it fixed. Like fixing a dog.

What sooper jeanyus at Fox thought bringing Arsenio Hall back was a good idea? I'd rather be watching Big Bang Theory and Seinfeld reruns for the umpteenth time.

Centralcal on iPad

So. Any guesses what Obama is going to talk about tomorrow night?

Danube on iPad

The Greenfield column at this URL is as brilliant as anything I have read in years.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/09/shooting-syrian-elephant.html

Gus

Obama talks about REPUBLICANS hating CHILDREN, clean water and gay rights tomorrow for $2OO. Alex??

narciso

Crosssfire, Arsenio, will they do another run of the Chevy Chsse show,

Clarice

That's what I thought when I read it, too, DoT. Guy's a genius.

Gus

Centralcal. Obama is going to LIE. That is all he knows. He is going to talk about trying to AVERT VOILENCE. Obama is going to talk about how HE and PUTIN came up with a "Plan" or strategy. Obama is a complete and utter fuck up.

How's the Benghazi deal working out.
How's the FAST and Furious deal working out.
How's the SNOWDEN deal working out.

Obama is being "ROLLED" by PUTIN.

Captain Hate on an iPhone

Thanks for linking that, DoT.

narciso

You have to look it as very dark humor, Gus,
like some of Python's best, the Kamikazi Scotsman brigades, are firmly in the Norwegian Blue colmns

Captain Hate on an iPhone

Oh dear God, narc, Chevy Chase made Magic Johnson look like the second coming of Carson. I hate Chase with the heat of a super nova and even I felt bad as he pathetically flailed around onstage.

Threadkiller

This is a stadium year for the Chargers.

A lot of unexpected scoring.

Berman isn't so bad, with the exception of his Applebee's commercial that makes the joint look even worse than it is.

Happy anniversary JiB and wiffey!!!

Centralcal on iPad

Great video, Clarice. I loved the Prius tanks.

Well, it is a given that Obama will lie, Gus. It is just so pointless now to do the Oval Office address to a nation that will not be watching.

narciso

Yes, that was clearly a Geneva and Viemma convention violation, I think I read Auletta about what a dry hole that period, with the possible exception of Dennis Muller,

Clarice

Niters/

dublinDave

I mean is this not something to be proud of...literally Obama,without lifting a finger or firing a rocket has made Assad give up all of his chemical weapons....sure this isn't the disastrous Bush policy of charging in to try and find WMD's only to get bogged down for ten years losing thousands of American lives and,destroying the countries reputation and plunging us into heavy debt.....but it works.

The Obama doctrine works.

Enlightened

Obama talks about REPUBLICANS hating CHILDREN, clean water and gay rights tomorrow for $2OO.

Bambi is going to call Assad a Republican tomorrow?

Danube on iPad

Kipling anticipated Orwell (and Greenfield):

"Now, it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,

"For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles, and he weareth the Christian down;

"And the end of the fight is a tombstone white, with the name of the late deceased,

"And the epitaph drear: ‘A fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.’"

Gus

Douchebag Davey is as STUPID as an ASS CLOWN on HEROIN. Seriously. Davey Douchebag, wants to believe FANTASY.

Threadkiller

http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Chargers-Take-Action-in-New-Stadium-Development/fa04e0e7-630b-468c-9fe0-f02941f90b24

Hmmmmm...

Danube on iPad

I do not understand why Gus, Iggy and NK rise to that troll's bait every time. If they didn't, he would soon stop polluting JOM.

Threadkiller

They lack the courtesy we display, my friend.

;-)

Extraneus

Who is Putin voting for in 2016?

I think this is why he saved Obama's ass.

Threadkiller

Is anybody watching this mess?

Dave (in MA)

Posted by: Clarice | September 09, 2013 at 11:11 PM "Scholar on Social Policy, and 'barista'". Excellent.

Danube on iPad

Forget it, Jake. It's the San Siego Chargers.

Danube on iPad

*Diego*

Hell, call it San Siego if you like. They're as dead to me as Tony Soprano's mother.

Dave (in MA)

Everybody ready for their "interviews", (wink-wink)?

Threadkiller

If they had a new stadium, this would have never happened.

Elliott

In primetime address Obama expected to announce indictments

2013-09-10 (While New England Slept A.M.) Washington, D.C. — President Obama will reveal the existence of still sealed indictments against leading member of the Syrian regime, including President Assad, in tonight's Oval Office address, senior White House and Justice Department officials have confirmed to The Fabulist.

The charges stem from terms of use violations on online purchases made through Apple Inc.'s iTunes store by Assad and members of his inner circle. The purchases, first revealed publicly by the Guardian and New York Times newspapers last year, date as far back as 2010.

Senior Justice Department officials, speaking on background to the Fabulist, allayed concerns that evidence had come from US intelligence operations and thus might be inadmissible at trial. "Throughout this investigation we were conscious that the President would be satisfied with nothing less than a case we could take to federal court," assured one official. "Evidence collection procedures in this case would have made Jamie Gorelick proud."

White House officials, meanwhile, were keen to underline that the victim was a major US corporation. "In this day and age, rogue regimes don't act in isolation. They harm everyone. We cannot permit assaults on the foundations of modern trade to the detriment of pioneering American companies and that's why it's important to send such a strong message to the world that wanton acts like this will not be tolerated."

Officials also bristled at the suggestions the charges were symbolic. "The Capone example has become a bit of a cliché," reflected one. "So for a more contemporary perspective I suggest you ask some of those Tea Party groups how symbolic they think it is to have the US government breathing down their necks."

peter

Hello, friends. Just got back from a week's vacation in southeastern Sicily, beachhopping with my family. No internet, no emails, no politics, just the Ionian sea and the African sea, and food. LOTS of food. And wine cantinas where they will sell you two liters of delicious Nero D'Avola wine for four bucks. Impossible for me to catch up here, but it looks like Obama's second term is slowly deteriorating.
One odd thing I noticed about the small corner of the world I was in: very few bumper stickers.

Extraneus

The DailyCaller: CBO: Obamacare individual mandate delay would save $35 billion

Who would save? The gov't? Individual taxpayers? It doesn't say. But it does say this...

But the whole cost of the Obama administration’s employer mandate delay comes in at $12 billion, largely from a reduction in fines the government is able to collect from employers who don’t provide coverage.
That's a beltway "cost," DC, not a cost. Paying the fines would have been a cost.

And this is a conservative publication.

Jane

Peter,

I'm jealous. Welcome back!

peter

Jane, I left out the part about ogling the skimpy bathing suits. Now back to work. I'll need a grappa at the end of the day.

NK(tryin')

Couple of things: peter welcome back. I've never been to Sicily, espresso any good? My father was born on a different Ionian island, Cefalonia, that's west/NW of Sicily. Same climate, same dirt poor people, different language.

Media Photo last night: thanks for correctly that the too old, too tarted up too dronk woman was Diane Sawyer, not Leslie Stahl. As it was sawyer, she was 3 double martinis drunk as opposed to 2 white wines tipsy. Was that Scott Pelley on the left? Pelley lives about 500 yds as the crow flies from TomM.

NK(tryin')

JiB-- happy anniversary!

Marlene

Happy Anniversary Mr. and Mrs. JiB. peter,your vacation sounds wonderful. My little birdie called me last evening and said she was on her way to an "event",which in Washington speak usually means a fundraiser. I said,business as usual in DC. That is when I figured the "Syria crisis" was over.

NK(tryin')

Political surrender and personal humiliation is one way to end a 'crisis'.

narciso

Well I did read further, it's BDO, I mean CBO,

The House bill to delay Obamacare’s individual mandate would save $35 billion dollars, according to a Congressional Budget Office analysis.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/09/cbo-obamacare-individual-mandate-delay-would-save-35-billion/#ixzz2eUYOuud3

Patriot4Freedom

JiB and Mrs. JiB - Happy belated anniversary to the happy couple - and hope your dinner was memorable.

Peter - Welcome back to the home shores. Just one question: What will you miss more today, enjoying the nice wines, or ogling the bathing beauties?

Extraneus

I suppose that I should go by the name, irrelevant, another word that I plagiarized from a troll, along with extraneous misspelled. That would be more in keeping with my history of never having offered a cogent thought and in always having been an insufferable.

narciso

Congrats Peter, yes, that's the Titanic are lighter without the lifeboats, forget the gash in the hull.

centralcal

Happy Anniversary, JiB (my post from iPad saying same thing last night didn't get through)!

Welcome back, Peter.

Reading around the web, there are several reviews (all pans) about CNN debut of Crossfire last night. However, one that simply cannot be missed (Iowahawk says it is "magnificent") is the Daily Caller one.

There is "chewed up and spit out" and then there is "really chewed up and violently spit out."

Extraneus

I suppose that I should go by the name, irrelevant, another word that I plagiarized from a troll, along with extraneous misspelled. That would be more in keeping with my history of never having offered a cogent thought and in always having been an insufferable bore.

narciso

Do I need to quote Admiral Ackbar?

centralcal

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 10m

Patrick Howley nukes Stephanie Cutter, napalms the rubble, feeds remains in a woodchipper http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/09/crossfire-review-1/

James D.

What are the odds that any reporter asks Zero (or Kerry, or anyone in the administration) the question posed earlier in this threat re: the possession vs the actual use of chem weapons being the international "red line" that was crossed?

Something like:

"So, now that the Russians have agreed to take control of Syria's chemical weapons, you're no longer concerned about the 1,500 civilians including 400 children that you insisted that Bashar Assad killed with Sarin gas, an act that you've repeatedly told us her personally ordered? So that's all just water under the bridge now, and Assad can go back to business as usual with no consequences? So when you called it a war crime and a violation of international norms that simply couldn't be allowed to stand, that was just so much hot air? Can you clarify that for us, Mr. President?"

narciso

I thought the fact, they warming up his replacement was the reason, probably the stop payment;

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/09/09/obama_admin_keeping_syrian_rebel_leader_out_of_dc_congressional_sources_say

NK(tryin')

The Patrick Howley piece is fantastic -- not subtle-- but fantastic.

JamesD-- I'm sure the WaPo WH repoter will ask Obummer that very question-- word for word.

BTW-- thanks to the Egyptian Military and Vlad Putin the MB and AQ have suffered huge setbacks in two large Arab Nations. The stage could be set to pressure the Mullahs and support secular Iraq. Oh.. I'm sorry... the POTUS sees the events in Egypt and Syria as defeats, so he'll make sure to help out the Mullahs.

James D.

cc @ 8:42 - I loved that link. But I kind of think they were much too easy on Cutter...

Marlene

OT,but interesting.Joshua Chamberlain's original Medal of Honor has been donated to the historical museum in Brunswick that holds his collection.His last living descendant left her estate to the First Parish Church in Duxbury,MA. The anonymous donor found the medal in the back of a book bought at a church sale several years ago.Army experts have authenticated the medal.

narciso

She's a blood thirsty strigoi, those are Del Toro's not so nice ghoulish vampires.

Ranger

So, lets see. The Russians put a couple of airborne brigades into Syria to secure Assad's chemical weapons. You can't move them to any type of destruction facility while the fighting is on going, so that gets postponed until the war is over. But, Assad gets to free up some more troops for the front line, and if chem attacks happen again, they "must" be the rebels, as "all" of Assad's stuff is accounted for. Sounds like we have really taught Assad a lesson there.

narciso

'what we do in this office is practice deception, what we don't do is self deception'

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/09/putin-pulls-obama-out-of-a-fire-obama-supporters-credit-obama/#comments

NK(tryin')

Joshua Chamberlain-- Bowdoin man, hero of Little Round Top. I didn't know he won a Cong MoH, I didn't think it existed then.

Ranger

NK, he won two IIRC. Though the second one was awarded (erroneously) posthumously. Congress thought he had been killed in action leading an attack at Cold Harbor when they awarded him the medal for that action, but he was only seriously wounded.

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