Nobody Saw This Coming

Syria may miss first deadline in U.S.-Russia chemical arms deal

The State Dept says no worries:

Marie Harf, a State Department spokeswoman, said Wednesday that "our goal is to see forward momentum" by Saturday, not the full list. "We've never said it was a hard and fast deadline."

But the LA Times uncharitably harkens back a day or so:

Secretary of State John F. Kerry had described the date as the first of several "specific timelines" that would indicate whether Syria is committed to the deal that he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had worked out.

"We agreed that Syria must submit within a week — not in 30 days, but in one week — a comprehensive listing," Kerry said Saturday. He said the U.S. would allow "no games, no room for avoidance, or anything less than full compliance."

Well, there are no games - they just aren't going to to do it.

The Wednesday State Dept press briefing is kind of amusing - the press wasn't buying the "not a missed deadline" idea, but the State Dept wasn't selling anything else.

Comments

[4JIB2]

Looks like I am going to finally be able to unload that bridge in Brooklyn I mistakenly bought a while back.

[Ranger]

He said the U.S. would allow "no games, no room for avoidance, or anything less than full compliance."

Russia and Syria just tested ObamaCo. ObamaCo just failed the test.

[NK(tryin' again)]

Missed 'deadlines' DO TELL!!!
BTW, Emperor Vlad I will be coronated again in 2018 as Tsar of all the Russias, quelle surprise.

[NK(tryin' again)]

"ObamaCo just failed the test."

Putin-Assad KNEW that.. . they just wanted a laugh at the nonsense the Obamaniacs would come up with. "Never said it was a hard and fast..." pffft...pitiful excuse even by Obummer standards.

[maryrose]

This administration doe not know the meaning of a deadline. 50% of the Helathcare law deadlines have been missed. Important pieces are not in place. I felt encouraged learning that the Oct.1 deadline is like an anvil over their heads. I do have a lot of popcorn ACT brand is on sale} and loads of butter. The next couple of weeks will be very entertaining.What questions did Trey Gowdy have for our lying losers from Bammyland?

[Ranger]

Oh, and now we have another "deadline":

Kerry: UN must act on Syria next week

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/19/UN-must-act-on-Syria-next-week--Kerry

To which I am sure Vlad will laugh and ask, or what?

[Ignatz]

What's the difference between a red line and a dead line?

A red line is an oral empty threat while a deadline is a written one?

[maryrose]

Iggy:
You owe me a new keyboard! LOL

[Clarice]

As Lucianne says--its a red spaghetti line.

And now from Mel something to persuade you to gird your loins and march on the capitalhttp://washingtonexaminer.com/republicans-think-labor-department-has-secret-obamacare-fix-for-unions/article/2536020

[NK(tryin' again)]

A NEW deadline, or Redline, or .... whatevah.
This is now parody of the old Robin Williams schtick about Crazy Khadaffie's Gulf of Sidra 'Line of Death', which was eventually crossed by the USS John F Kennedy, 2 Libyan SU-27s bought the farm over that. Now 28 years later it's the USA drawing repeated backtracking 'lines'. Just disgusting-- Tsar Putin is laughing his royal ass off.

[Porchlight]

Of course there is a labor fix in the works. The unions are not going to display this faux pushback for nothing.

[NK(tryin' again)]

Union Fix?-- absolutely.

[maryrose]

If unions get a fix all hell will break loose.
I honestly think we need to only wait a few weeks and watch this turkey unravel bit by bit. These waivers and exemptions cry to heaven. Why should we the people comply when everyone else gets a free ride? I can't wait for the mandatory tax rule to go into effect and the subsequent lawsuits to commence.

[maryrose]

Manufactured character assasinations of Stevens and DeLay. These are the kinds of people we are dealing with in the dem party. Plame kerfuffle where an innocent person Libby is convicted. We need to get down and dirty with these people. Funny, the dems wear clean togas when dealing with Putin and Assad.

[NK(tryin' again)]

The good news about the Union Fix being in is that it gives a big opportunity to attack ObummerCare in court again on equal protection grounds-- Justice Roberts held ObummerCare is a tax law-- how can it be interpreted to give BILLIONs of subsidies to one politically favored group while the rest of us get squat. What's Obummer gonna say to the SCOTUS about the Union Fix-- 'they'll break my legs'.

[Threadkiller]

Nobody ever expects the Syrian Inquisition.

[Janet]

via Breitbart - White House: Boehner Has 'Putin Envy'

What children...this sorry administration is sickening

[Janet]

and look at this - http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/09/19/spitting-on-their-graves-democrats-leave-benghazi-hearing-before-testimony-from-benghazi-families-n1704732

The Dems probably had to go listen to some citizens from other countries in our nation ILLEGALLY whine about something.

[4JIB2]

What will the masses do about it, if the unions get a fix. IMHO, zero. Nilch, Nada. Nothing.

There is nothing outside the 2010 Tea Party success, Wisconsin and Colorado recall that demonstrates that a "national" uproar can be produced. All those cases were localized even the Tea party success.

Heard Tom Delay on Hannity when driving today. Evidently, not only was the case thrown out but the judge wrote it should have never be brought. Appears that Delay has a damn good case for prosecutorial misconduct and noted that Earle went Grand Jury shopping before he could find one in the People's Republic of Austin to do the dirty on poor old Tom. But he was in good humor and also noted how Bob Dole sabotaged the 96 Govt. shutdown and that Clinton admitted in his book that if it had gone one more day he would have caved.

Pretty good interview if you can find it, listen to it.

[matt]

anybody see the UK Independent article on Gennifer Flowers?

She says Bill is the love of her life and that Hillary is bi, oh my.....

[NK(tryin' again)]

Hillary's Bi? I thought she was strictly lesbian.

[4JIB2]

NK,

Yeah, who the hell is she Bi with?

[Annoying Old Guy]

JIB;

Completely off topic, but earlier you mentioned Frederich being a big Roman mythology fan. You might check out the "Orphans of Chaos" trilogy by John C. Wright. Almost every character is from Greek / Roman mythology (although you don't realize that till well in to the first book). It does have some mature content, though. It's a sci fi action / adventure romp that doesn't take it self too seriously.

[Clarice]

Cross posted: am trying to think about Republican strategies on Obamacare,,esp now that it appears the WH is working behind the scenes to add Big Labor to the list of exemptions. What about refusing to sign on to a CR that includes Obamacre unless every exemption is stripped from the law?

Any thoughts?

[Old Lurker test]

I'm sorry. The image of Hillary and sex with anything is just too disturbing.

[Threadkiller]

The republicans should not refuse anything.

Let the Union exemption play out...

[4JIB2]

AOG,

Thanks for the tip. Will look into it. At 10 he is a big Rick Riordan fan. Riordan like Jeff Kinney has mad millions by buying into where the kids are today and their interests/experiences.

If you don't know those names, you should since they sell more books than Joyce Carol Oates.

[peter]

I'm with you, Old lurker, that violates the 8th amendment

[NK(tryin' again)]

Clarice-- there are lots of targets of opportunity to atack in ObummerCare-- MediCaid eligibility expansion, religious conscience, special exemptions-- especially for Unions and Congress, all should be targeted... but as part of the Debt fight, not the CR.

[NK(tryin' again)]

OL-- I understand your revulsion, but treat it like a nature show, like "Wild Kingdom"-- Narrator: here we see the HildaBeast commencing the mating ritual with the doorknob..." Something like that, all scientific like.

[Account Deleted]

Clarice,

I'd go with income and identity verification prior to allowing disbursement of any subsidy money. That's where the initial fraud will occur and that's where BOzo intends to continue his reparations project.

[NK(tryin' again)]

RickB-- excellent notion on subsidy vetting... that would be particularly popular with Indy voters. Let's see Obummer opposes ID check to vote, and income checks for subsidy money... ya think the LIVs would catch on that he's a community organizer scam artist in a $4000 suit?

[Clarice]

That's something I'd add to the pot, Rick--it's good, but demanding the exemptions be stripped out--and reports are that there's in the works a plan to also exempt labor unions now--will allow the Republicans to make their case fo the unfair cronyism aspect of this "tax".

[MarkO]

I thought I saw that Assad had asked the UN to monitor a ceasefire now that the war had stalemated.

That would put Obama out of business in Syria and keep Assad in power backed by the UN.

Obama and Kerry. DOOM.

[MarkO]

If you can't defund because you haven't the votes, how do you do anything legislatively?

That leaves only one other branch of government. As I said on the other thread, we can't count on our 5-4 majority in the SC. Or was that 4-5?

The insidious infusion of nationalized health care will force out other means. Time is not on our side.

[Account Deleted]

Clarice,

I'm inclined to let the union exemption fester. Demand it be stripped out but allow it in compromise for PhotoID verification coupled with EVerify for everyone claiming a subsidy.

After all, they've got the Million Jeantel OFA Navigator Army out there to help. Just remember not to speak cursive when asking questions.

[MarkO]

Here [another British scoop]:

If accepted by the armed opposition, a ceasefire would have to be kept "under international observation", which could be provided by monitors or UN peace-keepers – as long as they came from neutral or friendly countries, he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/19/syrian-government-civil-war-stalemate

[pinkman]

The USG should probably tamp down the 'missed deadline' approach.

http://www.state.gov/t/avc/rls/189863.htm

April 2012 missed by several including US and Russia.

10% of stores extant at last check.

[matt]

"I thought I had that list right here. I guess it must be in my other pants."

Things Bashir Assad may have said.

[Old Lurker test]

Strip the exemptions AND the Congressional staff trick they came up with.

[MarkO]

I love all the suggestions, but without the votes, how do you do it?

[matt]

I don't know if anyone has noticed, but two federal appeals courts have ruled against the exemption of Christian corporations from Obamacare. The Left will litigate its way to victory every time by venue shopping and misleading cases.

The prosecutor in Texas should be sanctioned for every dime he wasted and DeLay's legal fees.

I caught Limbaugh this morning who pointed out how the federal bureaucracy has overreached on a number of issues related to gay marriage through the regulatory process.

We need to squash these people like bugs.

[pagar101]

Syria,
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-19/chemical-weapons-expert-us-deadline-syrian-chemical-weapons-contrary-internat

"Chemical Weapons Expert: U.S. Deadline for Syrian Chemical Weapons Is Contrary to International Law

[MarkO]

pagar,

Obama's just not that smart.

[4JIB2]

Again, how do we do the squashing and defeating? I have yet to see a game plan on how to promote conservative principles but knocking down prof ones at the same time.

Talk is cheap.

From my short experience in DC, and then watching local politics in Florida, you have to get off the bench and play the game and play it hard. Door to door. Calling on the phone. Going outside to meet the LIV's and indies.

The republicans are only interested in raising money from you to go an play in the media market. There are no votes there.

The Tea Party had the right idea until it was neutered by the prog/dem machine alive as the DC public employee unions.

[Janet]

The Left will litigate its way to victory every time by venue shopping and misleading cases.

That is how the Dems win. Look at abortion or marriage. Marriage won in Calif. for heaven's sake....but the left took it to court.
Same in the pro-life world. We change hearts & minds...but even modest regulations get knocked back by courts.

[pagar101]

Democrats walk out on Benghazi's victims families."

I do not understand how any American who has/or has had relatives in the US military or civilian defense of this country can vote for a Democrat.

[rich@gmu]

Update: Generation Opportunity posted a Craigslist ad on Thursday seeking actors to dress up like Creepy Uncle Sam at an event in Chantilly, Virginia in September. The gig pays $275 for the weekend:

ha, looks like I found a part time job!!!

afternoon everyone.

[Janet]

Republicans write long books on the issues decades after the fight is lost & inform a few readers that they were right. And they were, but...big whoop at that point. :(

[Comanche Voter]

If you're dumb enough to believe that any of this is going to happen (i.e. Assad comply with the terms of the deal, or Russia force Assad to comply, or the Bamster will use force), well then I've got a load of pre-owned buffalo chips to sell you. In fact pre owned Buffalo Chips is what the Bamster has been feeding all of us for several years now.

[rich@gmu]

haven't seen anything on campus yet with the opt out campaign, but I'll let you know when I do. Should make for some interesting street theater by the JC with OFA Enroll Jenteal's and hot Opt Out models.

[Clarice]

Mark O==Here's how it works, you make your stand, then the Senate votes..At the Senate level you target every vulnerable Dem--and they seem already to be running fromObama--have their constitutents pound the halls..If they vote for it without the chages the House demands..let them lose their elections. Then --with no agreement between the two houses of Congress, let Obama say he wants to keep cheating provisions and cronyism more than he wants to get funs to keep the got going.

That's how you do it.

Here's how you lose--pissing in your pants and crying we don't have all the votes.

[rich@gmu]

suppose I should read the post first and the comments. bother.

[4JIB2]

pinkman's 5:31 link to the State dept. briefing is a reminder as to why we are DOOMED. If anyone can read the transcript and leave proud as hell of their country and their State department needs a lobotomy.

We really are not a serious country or political system. Listen to the Carneys, Harfs and others of this regime is like what it must have been to listen to Hitler and Stalin. I'll bet Assad and Putin only wished they had such silver tongued liars.

[NK(tryin' again)]

Clarice@6:02-- HooRAH that.

[Beasts of England]

But I thought John F. Kerry was one of our best evah(!) Secretaries of State?

[NK(tryin' again)]

From ZeroHedge-- if you doubt QE I-III have failed, check out the Fed Reserve beancounters 'projections' of 2013 GDP starting in January 2011 until now. They wrongly assumed 2013 growth would be TWICE as large as it actually was with QE. TomM you were saying about QE and economic growth? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-19/guess-what-feds-original-2013-gdp-forecast-was

[MarkO]

Clarice,

I'm all for the symbolic and politically important actions in both houses. In fact, I lean toward the Obamacare gambit. But, we should not expect anything to happen until we change the personnel.

The pissing your pants argument is one that predicts the other moves will not result in better elections. I have no idea. I yield to you on that.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

My God, Clarice; that was like reading Mark Levin.

[Threadkiller]

Finally, JPMorgan Admits The Bank Broke The Law

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3953915

Stupid homeowners...

[4JIB2]

All this is going to do is give Schumer more screen time.

[NK(tryin' again)]

Schumer/Reid appearing on TV news as the face of the Dem Party on the debt fight? that's very good. Ryan and Cruz are the guys the Repubs should put out-- Let Mitch M work on Red State Dem senators, in the back rooms.

[Clarice]

I take it you like it,CH..it's my plan for Sunday.

[matt]

That demeans buffalo chips, comanche. At one time they were very useful fuel for the fires of the plains Indians.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

I'll read it at the beach in Ocean City, Clarice.

[pinkman]

See? And they wonder why so many are looking for conspiracies.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24163244

"Members of the Capitol Police's highly trained Containment and Emergency Response Team (Cert) are typically debriefed "right away, at the very least the following day" following an incident, another Capitol Police source said.

They haven't been given the courtesy of a debrief”

Capitol Police source
But four days after Monday's shooting, the officers have yet to be questioned by the department or any member of a Capitol Police Board "Fact Review Team", which was convened on Wednesday to investigate the incident.

"[They] haven't even been given the courtesy of a debrief… They have not even been given an answer as to why the decision was made that they should not respond," a source said.

Four Cert team members wearing full tactical gear and armed with HK-416 assault weapons arrived on scene at 08:36 (12:36 GMT), soon after reports of an active gunman within the Naval Sea Systems Command surfaced at 08:20.

[pagar101]

Admits the leftists broke the law.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/09/congressman-wolf-demands-fbi-punish-agents-for-cair-contact.html

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/09/-doj-inspector-general-bashes-fbi-for-working-w-cair-in-violation-of-congress-taken-down-from-doj-si.html

[matt]

pale yellow, wheaten color. I'm good with Michelle for now.

[narciso]

This tells the tale, of how the Assads came to power, and purged the rival members of the Baath, although a little more gently, then the Husseins,

http://chenry.webhost.utexas.edu/pmena/coursemats/2009/batatu-4326249.pdf

[4JIB2]

CH,

If you stop at St. Michaels then try 208 Talbot. Its basically a wine place but great food. Maybe Mrs. Hate will like it and isn't that what its all about when you think about it:)

[Donald]

I know this is gonna sound bad, but they are on colored people time.

[narciso]

Another interesting thing, from this monograph, is that Damascus has never been an Alawite stronghold, hence it's not surprising
there was friction, in various corners of the
city.

[Ranger]

Well, given that the FSA and the Jihadis are not in open combat with each other, a ceasefire it a win/win for Assad. He gets time to rest and refit his troops, and he can sit back and watch the rebels beat the carp out of each other. Then he can move in and finish off who ever survives their fight.

[narciso]

Well there have been recent clashes between those factions, in places like Aleppo, and Azaz, their primary sponsors are divided in their loyalties,

[Ranger]

And one again, the Russian make the point that they do not play games:

Russia 'seizes' Greenpeace ship after Arctic rig protest

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24170129

Greenpeace says 29 activists, including six Britons, are being held at gunpoint by Russian security officers who stormed the group's ship in the Arctic.

One of the activists told the BBC that about 15 men in balaclavas seized the Arctic Sunrise ship in the Barents Sea.

This comes a day after four Greenpeace members tried to board a Russian oil platform to prevent it from drilling.

Still not quite up to the French standard for dealing with this sort of thing, but a decent start.

[Ignatz]

I hope they scuttle it.
Send it to the vasty deep with those ***ing Sea Shepherd asshats.

[narciso]

So apparently the same USIS that vetted Snowden, also did so for the shooter, I say apparently because Michael Isikoff has the story.

[pinkman]

Putin filed a restraining order against the stalkers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24170129

[narciso]

Some details about a matter, in Stephanie's general area.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/09/term-you-will-not-hear-about-atlanta-kidnapping-perp-illegal-alien/#comments

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Thanks for the rec JiB; yes, that's what it's all about.

[MarkO]

Herewith the list of Democrat Reps who walked out on the parents of those killed in Benghazi.

The list of shame.

Carolyn Maloney
Danny Davis
Eleanor Holmes Norton
Gerald E. Connolly
Jim Cooper
John Tierney
Mark Pocan
Matt Cartwright
Michelle Lujan Grisham
Peter Welch
Stephen Lynch
Steven Horsford
Tammy Duckworth
Tony Cardenas
William Lacy Clay

[centralcal]

Disgusting, MarkO. Tops, a former long-time commenter here, tweeted those names today too to shame them.

Though, I honestly do not think it possible to shame Dems.

[Ignatz]

Now there are some congress creeps who should be spit on.

[Ignatz]

A little OT and probably already discussed, but since it's good news let's repeat it;

Barry Diller to sack the hideous Tina Brown as big cheese at The Daily Beast in January.
Delightful.

[narciso]

He's particularly inventive scum;

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/demand-.html

[pinkman]

"Now there are some congress creeps who should be spit on."

Name one exempt from the boiler-plate initiation for 'Originals' in the social club Hell's Angels. No bodily fluids are exempt.

[MarkO]

cc,

And, it won't make the news.

[narciso]

OT, I'm surprised I'ved missed her show;

[Jim Miller]

Clarice - May I suggest a theme song for your "Pieces" this weekend?

(BTW, I gave you a "Worth Reading" award a few days ago, the first one you have earned, if I recall correctly.)

[pagar101]

"The list of shame."

Ever one of those on that list of shame is up for reelection in 2014. IMO, Voters need to make a special effort to insure that they are not returned to the House to insult more of the families of our fallen Heroes.

[narciso]

Very true to the point;

[Ignatz]

Pop culture OT,
AmSpec article about two new biographies of guys I grew up laughing at; Alan Sherman and Bob and Ray.
Bob Elliott still chugging along at 90.

[Centralcal on iPad]

MarkO: not make the news. Oh, that's a given!

If the tables were turned and it was Republicans, there would be wailing, lamentations and rendering of garments among theMFM.

[Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet]

I think an effective ad could be made cutting excerpts of the testimony of the parents of the two slain Benghazi heroes with the name and pic of each of those absenting themselves from that testimony with a stamp 'Walked Out On Them" or some such.

[narciso]

Just consider Waxman's witchhunt against Blackwater.

[narciso]

Just one instance here;

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/washington/26contractor.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=world&adxnnlx=1190834132-S1ktOnK1GOPa22yKLRWIDA&

[narciso]

you couldn't shutup Maloney and Cummings about Blackwater, an imperfect instrument
to conduct certain policy objectives, notably one of the more famous cases from that era, were thrown out, becauee of legal
trickery, not unlike the case of the New Orleans cops.

[centralcal]

For those, like me, who didn't get to see Trey Gowdy make Admiral Mullen squirm and sweat, here is a video of it.

There is also, a second video (just below) of Gowdy speaking with the family members that the Dems walked out on. The beginning (especially) of this should be in the Ad someone suggested above, with the faces and names of the Dems who walked out on them.

[narciso]

Well this explains much of it, we spend long threads unraveling this rot gut idiocy

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/09/19/Flashback-new-york-times-only-paper-obama-reads

[Ignatz]

Did the Dems provide any reason why they dishonored the family members, and thereby the dead as well, or did they just silently pick up their jacks and go home?