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September 16, 2013

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matt

The story on the shooters is going to be interesting reading.

daddy

Watching Obama live.

Worth noting that his first comments are on the Navy Yard Shootings. He specifically says that "we do not have all the facts", yet he does not follow that comment with "the police acted stupidly". Perhaps there is a possibility of OJT with this administration.

Now he is on about economic stuff, specifically saying how he started repairing roads and bridges, which as I recall he laughed about since there actually weren't any "shovel ready jobs".

Overall he says that in the last 3 and a half years he has added 7.5 million jobs and everything else he has done is wonderful---"he has cleared away the rubble from the financial crisis... We should take note of how far we have come from how we were 5 years ago---but we are not yet where we ought to be.

etc.

DebinNC

Bozo also said he'd "saved the auto industry". I can't get over the inappropriateness of this lie-filled victory lap as a mass shooting is still taking place nearby.

Some Guy

He specifically says that "we do not have all the facts",

That is White House code for – ‘we haven’t figured out how to manipulate the facts to target a support demographic, give us a few minutes’

Danube on iPad

It's remarkable to me how confused the authorities seem to be, and how inarticulate they are in telling us what they know.

What does "added 7.5 million jobs" really mean? And how many people have left the work force during that period?

daddy

He specifically says that "we do not have all the facts",

So obviously the Cambridge Police acted stupidly, but other than that we are still in limbo.

Jane

What the hell was the purpose of that little lie filled speech? Is his mirror broken?

rse

Will any of the lofo voters be wondering if Gibbs and gang are ok?

Jim Eagle

I noticed the Republican's war on women has produced both a female police chief for DC (Cathy Lanier) and the chief of the US Park Police (Teresa Chambers).

Ranger

What the hell was the purpose of that little lie filled speech? Is his mirror broken?

Well, let's see. The wealth disparity has jumped to an all time record (at least since they have been keeping records on that type of thing), and more people are feeling poor now than in a long time. I guess Barry thinks he can go out and convince them that the economy is doing great, even if the LIVs' personal economies aren't. Who are they going to believe, Barry, or their lying wallets?

NK(tryin' again)

Obummer's appearance?- who knows who cares. It's probably just his Narcissism after a disasterous 12 days of being Putin's bitch and then the Left slapping him down on Summers. So he weants to prove to himself he's THE MAN by getting out there and reading some stock lies about the economy, while the dead have yet to be identified. He's just a creten.

NK(tryin' again)

creten = cretin... jeez

Ignatz

It never really occurred to me before but the acronym for the government agency that keeps track of the millions of Federal civilian government goldbricks we employ is OPM.
Not sure whether that calls for a smiley face or a sad one.

NK(tryin' again)

Speaking of Barry the cretin, Barry the destroyer of jobs, Barry the QE/Debt pumper that the rich (like Tom M*) and super/uber rich like Warren Buffett love, who has done more to amp up super rich and destroy the middle class than anyone in USA history engages in some sick projection about 'income ineqaulity trends'. He's a disgusting ignorant and lying bastard: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/09/16/obama_gop_congress_wants_to_accelerate_trend_of_income_inequality.html

NK(tryin' again)

* we love ya Tom, QE to Infinity, not so much....

DebinNC

CBS reported one shooter by name, then did an "Oops, we were wrong." KA-ching.

Danube on iPad

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there was a single shooter.

daddy

Just wondering---

If it winds up being Muslim's, it's workplace violence.

If it winds up being White guys, it's a Hate Crime.

If it winds up being Black guys, "Move along citizens--nothing to see here."

If it winds up being Illegal Aliens; "it's an anomaly--- the border has never been so secure.

If it winds up being women? Beats me.

matt

The DCPD is notoriously poorly managed. Being at a secure naval facility increases the complexity of crime scene management. Having Homeland Security chirp in with "we don't think it's terrorists' adds more confusion.

This sounds like a well planned attack to me. the Afghans are very adept at these, not that I am suggesting it. But having two or more people acting in a coordinated manner with only 10 casualties so far doesn't ring true.

Maybe they evacuated quickly and successfully, but those buildings are packed. The media seem to indicate that there were more wounded than killed. Bad marksmanship or we don't know the true body count?

How soon until the FBI reports it version of the truth?

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Did he really talk about how great the economy is, which is a hot steaming pile, when there were multiple murders just happening in the Navy Yard? I knew that he's not right in the head but can't some of his handlers keep him from doing things which illustrate that so effectively?

NK(tryin' again)

CaptH-- he absolutely did that, he made his Econ lies as the body bags were filled 1 mile away. He is a sick Cretin.

Ranger

Captain, the event was a pre-planned speech on the economy. The teleprompter was already loaded. What was Obama going to do? You can't expect him to cancel a speech just because a few people are getting shot at down the street. I mean, he's the Won, events must bend to his will.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

matt, CSI Hagel will have all the answers shortly.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

First Hagel has to figure out which branch of the military was impacted at the Navy Yard. This could take months.

NK(tryin' again)

CaptH@1:38-- Heh!....

... and investigate if the 2 other shooters made their escape by swinging through the vines...

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Thanks guys; sorry to make light of it but this is laugh to keep from crying territory with this feckless bunch.

Dave (in MA)

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2013/09/16/fort-hood-2009-cnn-anchor-cant-remember-last-shooting-us-military-facili

Thank goodness for those layers of editors and fact-checkers.

Old Lurker test

I guess if he can claim the economy if fine, then appointing Yellin to carry on vs Summers who wanted to unwind things makes sense to them.

Danube on iPad

I think this story has to be phony. D.C. has the toughest gun-control laws in the country. Couldn't have happened.

jimmyk

What does "added 7.5 million jobs" really mean?

It means the DeMSM lets him get away with pulling a number from his a** about what "would have happened" if he hadn't rode to the rescue. It means about as much as him saying the oceans would be two feet higher, the stock market 20 percent lower, and the Yankees even worse if he weren't President.

jimmyk

rode -> ridden in my 1:56. That's the pluperfect, by the way.

Dublindave

Ha ha, it drives Righties crazy when Democrats point out how they fixed the economy after the disastrous 8 years Republican Economic policies (a global market meltdown...can we get more of those Republican policies?).

Todays shooting was a tragedy. Why did it happen? Guns, guns, guns, that's why.. as long as folks have easy access to high capacity guns we're going to continually experience the slaughter of our citizens over and over again.... we need to go after guns, plain and simple.

Sue

Every single speech from Obama sounds exactly the same. The words may change a little but the cadence, the tone, the up and down of his voice is exactly the same.

Sue

12 confirmed dead

NK(tryin' again)

whoa.. that's a terrible death toll

Porchlight

Awful.

Ignatz

Depending how you measure it there are six or seven million more employed than in 2009.

Of course there are ten million more Americans than in 2009.
Perhaps Barry should "change his calculus".

Porchlight

Why wasn't that speech canceled?

Jim Eagle

I believe the Navy Yard, except for security personnel and the NCIS contingent (HQ) is another "gun-free zone" much like Ft. Hood. There is a civilian portion to the Yard where there are local business offices and concerns. I maybe wrong about this but every time I visited it back in the late 80's and early 90's that was the regulation - no guns. Plus DC is gun-free zone itself.

Jim Eagle

Good for Kathryn Herridge: She just called Ft. Hood and act of Terrorism.

Of course, she'll get a letter from the DoD correcting her that is was "workplace violence" but its too late - cats out of the bag.

Porchlight

NBC and CBS put out the name of the wrong guy as the shooter and have now retracted. Way to go champs. You just can't learn.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/09/cbs-nbc-retract-navy-yard-shooter-reports-172737.html

NK(tryin' again)

OT-- this MUST be publicized-- forward to all of your acquaitances: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/358550/congresss-exemption-obamacare-john-fund

Marlene

Terrible. The death toll,the media and Obama are all terrible.

DebinNC

FBI now in charge of the meelee handling. Per the NYT, the DC police chief said in her noon presser:

“We have multiple victims inside who are deceased,” she said. She said a Metropolitan Police officer was among those injured. “We have one shooter we believe involved in this who is deceased,” she said. “We potentially have two other shooters that have not been located at this point.”

Chief Lanier described the other potential shooters: She said one was a white man, last seen at 8:35 a.m., wearing a tan military uniform with a beret, and carrying a handgun. She said the other potential shooter was a black male in his 50s with a “long gun” wearing an olive-drab military-style uniform. “We have no information to believe,” she said, that either of them were military personnel.

I'd think by noon investigators would have id'd and eliminated those two "possibles" if they were responders instead of shooters.

Danube on iPad

My father and mother lived in the Navy Yard around 1967-71 (Quarters F). For those not familiar with the area, when you step outside that gate you are deep, deep in Apache country.

GMax

Apache country: as in you will want to ride out in an Apache helicopter rather than take your life in your hands walking through the drive by shooting ghetto?

NK(tryin' again)

DoT-- when is the last time you were in SE DC?, alot of changes since the dark ugly days of the late 60s. The Imperial City has grown-- a lot.

Jane

"First Hagel has to figure out which branch of the military was impacted at the Navy Yard. This could take months."

That is the 2nd time today that I have truly laughed out loud.

Something is fishy about all this.

Patriot4Freedom

Shooting fatalities up to 12 now ?
What a sad, sad day for the people at the Navy Yard.

Our condolences and prayers go out to the families of those who lost their lives, and to the survivors.

Glad that the investigation is being taken over by the Bureau... Chief Lanier has *never* impressed me as particularly bright or highly competent.

I will be surprised, too, if there turns out to be more than one shooter.

Dave (in MA)
NBC and CBS put out the name of the wrong guy as the shooter and have now retracted. Way to go champs. You just can't learn.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/09/cbs-nbc-retract-navy-yard-shooter-reports-172737.html

Did they discover that he wasn't linked to the TEA Party and decide there was nothing to see here?

Danube on iPad

Been a long time, NK. Has it been gentrified?

As I recall the place, if indeed there are one or two accomplices there is just about no way they can get outnof the yard. Very high brick wass all the way around.

As a historical note, four of the Lincoln assassins were hanged in the Navy Yard.

DebinNC

NYT on security at Navy Yard:
"Investigators were trying to determine whether any of the suspected gunmen had official access to the Navy Yard. The site is protected by a high wall, with entry through checkpoints that require official identification. However, under the “force protection status” that was believed to have been in effect early Monday, someone with official access to the site could have driven a car into the parking lot without having the trunk inspected, or could have entered on foot without a bag being searched."

NK(tryin' again)

DoT-- oh yeah. starting with Clinton the posh Federal Gentry have expanded all over the District proper-- alot of .. ahem... traditional locals were brushed aside for 'public-private partnership' developments. Crony developers make a ton off of retail-Office deals that make $$$ off of federal agency anchor tenants. A partner of mine is working right now on such a deal to expand Fed Reserve offices-- deal's back on now that Summers is out. This one is a BenB/Yellen land grab.

jimmyk

Perhaps Barry should "change his calculus".

I doubt Barry knows what calculus is, but he or his staff know how much flexibility there is in determining growth and the rate of change. Just pick your spot and the beginning and end point:

I think 'c' happens to be not a bad depiction of where we are, but Barry could pick a spot a bit to the left, and ignore all those higher points back around 'a'.

Jim Eagle

NK,

DoT's right. It still is Apache country. Not much gentrification there. We drive through DC on 395 on our way north and you can see there are still bones drying in the vacant lots. Whenever I went there in the early 90's I used our office's car and driver. Knew some guy who visited using the Metro and getting off at the Yard station. Was robbed at gunpoint at the exit.

Fox keeps showing it being 1/2mile from the Capitol and they need to turn that off. Its more like 2 miles from the Capitol.

Marlene

The daughter has a good friend who lives in a beautiful new high rise in SE DC. If you haven't been to DC lately, there are construction cranes everywhere. The DC economy is doing just fine.

Jane

Is it possible to convert that great Sarah Palin photo into a GIF? or a JPeg?

NK(tryin' again)

JimmyK@2:41-- to further your point-- if the economy is soooo woooonderful, and Obamanomics was such a success, why do we still need $600+B in new DEBT every year?, why do we still need extraordinary QE? why is there record SNAP and disability.... oh hell... Obummer's TOTUS makes all his shite up, debating facts with Obummer and his TOTUS makes no sense.

jimmyk

if the economy is soooo woooonderful, and Obamanomics was such a success, why do we still need $600+B in new DEBT every year?, why do we still need extraordinary QE? why is there record SNAP and disability

One word: Bush!

Ranger

alot of .. ahem... traditional locals were brushed aside for 'public-private partnership' developments. Crony developers make a ton off of retail-Office deals that make $$$ off of federal agency anchor tenants.

On a side note, did you notice that Trump just got a huge deal to turn the old Post Office Building on Pennsylvania Ave. into a luxury hotel? The justification was that it was "under utilized" as Federal office space? How is that possible with every bureaucracy in DC adding people every year? Wonder what that was a payoff for?

Old Lurker test

"why do we still need $600+B in new DEBT every year?"

Like you don't know the answer, Jimmmy.

That $600B is a direct transfer from the 10% who will have to pay it back to the bottom 50% who don't pay at all. Less the amount lost to friction as it flows through the govt meatgrinder and the DNC coffers.

Duh.

Janet

2nd try -
The area is much nicer than when I lived there in the 90s.
Here is info on visiting the museum there.


http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org8_Visit.htm

8 or so years ago we had to sign in & show ID & then check out when we left too.

DebinNC

DCPD claim white suspect wearing beret id'd and eliminated as shooter.

GMax

Who knows if this is any more correct than the first one but here it is:

Pete Williams of NBC reports the dead shooter is 34 year-old Aaron Alexis of Fort Worth, Texas. Alexis, who stole an employee’s ID in order to get into the building, was a civilian contractor.

Janet

It isn't that far from the new National's Ballpark.

Sue

Oh sheesh. A Texas connection? Great.

Jim Eagle

Marlene,

Most of that development is north of 395/695. Just over the 695 bridge is Anacostia (ex-murder capital of the USA replaced by South Side Chicago). Northeast of 695 is the ballpark and I think there may be some development. Also, there is supposed to have been some development called The Yards west of the Navy Yard but I don't know if it ever went through.

Marlene

The traditional locals,as NK says,are being gentrified out of certain neighborhoods. When the daughter was house hunting a few years ago,she showed us a "transitional" neighborhood. One side of the street was a ghetto,the other side gentrified. Once the gentrification begins,the neighborhood becomes more desirable.

Danube on iPad

Fox News Poll: 71% believe Obama's policies have either hurt the economy or had no effect on it at all.

Let the asshole talk all he wants. No one listen to him anymore anyway.

matt

So I guess the Sequester is not in effect for these projects and to continuing expansion of the government hydra.

maryrose

I agree with Porch. This speech should have been cancelled. But according to Moochelle Obama has a chance to "get his groove on"and nothing like a rescheduled speech can get in the way of that. It is always about Obama. No one believes he created 7 million jobs. If he did the recession and its aftermath would be over already. As it is,Yellin is Emily's List's choice and will keep the gravy train running through the 2014 election cycle to protect dems.
There is no way Homeland security can know at this point that this attack is not terrorism. They are deliberately sent out to say this so everyone will think Obama has a handle on terrorist attacks in our country. News flash-He doesn't.

Account Deleted

Is the President trying to distract the Lackwitz Sisters' attention from his pants flying over the Kremlin or from the UN verification someone (either Butcher or Cannibal) is standing way the hell over on the other side of the BIG RED LINE in Syria?

BTW - The BLS unemployed number is only 763K lower than January 2009, when our long national nightmare began.

DebinNC

Freepers seem to have found the dead shooter's mugshot for weapons charge: LUN

Jim Eagle

Deb,

He looks just like Obama's son:) Another Black Tea Party member.

DebinNC

The dead shooter's name was obtained via his fingerprints.

jimmyk

Deb, I believe he appears to be a white Hispanic Tea Partier.

rich@gmu

awful.

Barack Obama

He could be Allan West's or Clarence Thomas's son.

Jim Eagle

Ex-Navy stationed at NAS Ft. Worth. Seems to have been a technician and went to school down the road from me at Embry-Riddle (unless he went to the Prescott, AZ campus).

DebinNC

What will BOzo do if all the dead victims are white? Ignore the elephant in the room?

peter

I was at the doctor's office today getting Moh's therapy for a mole. That's where the dermatologist/surgeon slices off a millimeter of your skin off and then you wait in the waiting room for an hour while they do the lab work. If there's more cancer, they, cut off another layer. I was fortunate, only had three layers cut off, but the point is I spent more time watching lame stream media than any time in my life in the last ten years. Here is what they are reporting: There was a gunman, or possibly two, or three, and there are four persons dead, except that now it is twelve, and that it will take another two hours for them to canvass the entire area, so the information is limited. You only needed a pass to get into the facility, no metal detectors, and no one knows how the perp(s) got in, or out. One of the perps is dead. Obama thinks the families of the dead need our love, and interrupted his really important press conference on the economy. There was no reference to the Fort Sill shootings, because that would remind people of workplace violence, and this has not yet been proven to be workplace violence, and don't even think about workplace violence, because that might remind you that Fort Sill really wasn't workplace violence but the result of something that cannot be spoken about, and Miss America is Indian American and has been receiving really hateful tweets that she is Miss 7-11.
So all in all, quite an informative day.

Frau Alptraum

"Long national nightmare," indeed, Rick.

73% of the Democrats believe tell themselves that Obama's economy is doing great.

Frau Alptraum

"creten = cretin... jeez"

cretons, NK?

Frau Alptraum

Waiting for Slo Joe to comment on Miss America.

Ignatz

--On a side note, did you notice that Trump just got a huge deal to turn the old Post Office Building on Pennsylvania Ave. into a luxury hotel?--

Hope the business model isn't a room will only be 46c but the joint will operate at a $16 billion loss.

Ranger

73% of the Democrats believe that Obama's economy is doing great.

Why not. Most of them work on Wall Street, in government, or in academia. For them, things are fine. the other 27% must be working at NPR or other "not for profits" that rely on corporate grants, which are drying up due to the prolonged stagnation.

rich@gmu

stunning that Obama continued with his pivot to the economy while investigators are still looking for shooters.

and for the numbers, I found:

142164 AUG12
139649 AUG09 (peak unemployment this cycle too)

+2515 gain (and it also is some nice bit of starting and stopping).

not sure where the 7.5 million comes in

sorry to have posted this here with the news out of the Navy Yard.

Old Lurker test

What would the Founders say about this?

"President Barack Obama warned Republicans in Congress on Monday that he will not negotiate over an extension of the U.S. debt ceiling as part of a budget battle that will soon dominate Washington, with a deadline fast approaching. Pivoting to domestic policy after devoting weeks to the crisis in Syria, Obama scolded his political opponents for threatening a government shutdown and attempting to attach conditions to funding the budget for the 2014 fiscal year that begins October 1. "Let´s stop the threats. Let´s stop the political posturing, let´s keep our government open. Let´s pay our bills on time."

Old Lurker test

That was Reuters, BTW via Lucianne.

Frau Alptraum

Hi, ho, Ladyparts, away!
Via Insty:

Perhaps even more surprising is who did Obama in: a small team of Democrats on the Senate Banking Committee. On Friday, Montana's Jon Tester announced he would not back a Summers nomination. That followed similar comments, via aides, by Sherrod Brown of Ohio and Jeff Merkley of Oregon. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, the progressive icon and former Obama aide, was also thought to be reluctant. That meant Summers would have required at least four Republican votes to clear the Senate Banking Committee, and around 10 from the wider Senate to reach the 60-vote threshold likely needed to overcome GOP procedural obstruction.(Atlantic)

I notice, the above-cited members did not deign to speak personally but "spoke via aides."

Did Sen. High Cheekbones belt out, "I enjoy being a girl"?

Extraneus

Waiting for Slo Joe to comment on Miss America.

He's been busy.

Biden: John Kerry has been “one of the best secretaries of state so far in the history of the United States”

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

During his speech today Obama was already blaming the shooting on "guns". The disdain in his voice just uttering the word was amazing.

NK(tryin' again)

"Let´s stop the threats. Let´s stop the political posturing, let´s keep our government open. Let´s pay our bills on time."

Pay bills? ... hmm... with $600B a year in borrowed money that our kids, not kids that look like trayvon, will have to pay back PLUS INTERST. What a c%^&*#er he is. I loathe the cretin, or creton... if you loathe quebec cooking.

Hoo Waa

Those billions the NSA invested in spying on Americans is really paying off.

jimmyk

During his speech today Obama was already blaming the shooting on "guns".

Other things Obama must believe:

1. His 2 for 22 basketball shooting is due to basketballs.

2. The poor performance of the Yankees is due to baseball bats.

3. His poor performance as President is due to Bush.

maryrose

Obama wants a government shutdown. Stop wasting our money and you won't have to negotiate raising the debt ceiling every 5 minutes.He won't get his shutdown but he will be forced to spend less money. And the sequester-still in effect to keep our debt down despite Obama.

NK(tryin' again)

Maryrose-- to God's ears, that is the Cantor plan, plus delaying ObammyCare spending/subsidies/mandates for 1 year...

Ignatz

--not sure where the 7.5 million comes in--

Rich,
This BLS chart shows a low in non farm payroll of 129 million in 2009, 127 million in 2010 and 136 million now.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

I just love how Obama vows he won't compromise. The republicans should wear T-shirts with Putin on them to the meeting.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

BTW did anyone else see the 25 most influential republicans today? McCain was #6. The author made it clear that he was hurting the party with that influence not helping it.

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