Meanwhile, Back On The Choom Gang...

The latest Gallup poll shows 58% favor marijuana legalization, suggestring it is getting safe for Obama to evolve on that issue as well.

Oh, I say that, but the most likely path is the one we are on - states quasi-legalize marijuana and the Feds ignore it. Eventually, if we really want to tax and regulate marijuana some formal movement at the Federal level will probably be necessary, if only to provide clarity at the state level.

Comments

[peter]

now you are talking about something Obama can handle--choom

[Beasts of England]

Legalize it and tax it. The stupidest prohibition ever. And I don't even smoke that crap...

[Ignatz]

Shouldn't choom be covered by Barrycare? It has all sorts of medicinal uses.

I mean to say, shouldn't the Fluke's boyfriend get to put himself in the mood with subsidized pot before Sandy inserts her taxpayer provided, extra large diagram?
Unless she uses an IOU, of course.

[Beasts of England]

Brought to you by the fine folks at Redstone Rehab down in Alabamer...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GVykNZq2icg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGVykNZq2icg

[Clarice]

More on today's challenge to Obamacare.http://www.volokh.com/2013/10/22/judge-rejects-doj-motion-dismiss-second-suit-irs-tax-credit-rule/

(I wonder if there's something about the ads here that causes the pages to freeze up and interferes with posting?_

[Stephanie]

I can't think of anyone I know that would redeem that IOU.

[henry]

SNAP cards are traded for choom anyway. Might as well make it official.

[Threadkiller]

Should home grown tomatoes be taxed?

[Ignatz]

--Should home grown tomatoes be taxed?--

Should they? No. Can they? Wickard says, yes.

[Old Lurker]

test

[Dave (in MA)]

Maybe we can choom tax our way back to prosperity, dude.

[Beasts of England]

Tomatoes are a gateway fruit!

[Old Lurker]

Typepad seems to be tired of me today.

[Threadkiller]

Wickard!!

[Beasts of England]

It's all about the aggregation...

[Marlene]

Beasts,from the previous thread...I'm in Maine.

[Beasts of England]

That's quite a drive, Marlene!

[narciso]

Steny must be smoking something, he wants to pony up 300 billion, to fix the site,

[DrJ]

narc, *million* not *billion*.

[windansea]

so lets say they legalize pot, I'm doubting employers are going to stop requiring drug tests for prospective employees.

[Gmax]

Hoyer admitted he did not know if more money would fix the problem, but like any Democrat he is in favor of throwing handful of money at problems and then going home and strutting around.

[Firewheel]

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/10/i-dont-know-what-map-alan-greenspan-has-or-what-territory-he-is-trying-to-cover-but-he-seems-to-me-to-be-lost.html

OK. Greenspan's argument seems to be:

The GSEs--Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--purchased and held lots of subprime mortgages--raw, securitized, and then derivativized.
Bank equity cushions were too low.
????
Financial crisis and depression!
This seems to me to be not the thinking of the Gnomes of Zurich, but rather the Gnomes of South Park. Let's run through the chain of causation here:

Countrywide finds some sub-prime borrowers and lends to them.
Countrywide securitizes and derivativizes its loans and sells them on the open market.
Fannie Mae comes along and buys them and holds them in its portfolio.
Because Fannie Mae has now taken this subprime mortgage risk off of the private sector's books, spreads on subprime vis-a-vis conforming drop.
Because spreads drop subprime becomes worth more.
Countrywide thus sees additional profit opportunities from making more subprime loans.
It makes them, and so there are more subprime loans and more risk in the market.
So when the crash comes in 2008, banks' inadequate equity cushions cannot handle the risk.
That is the argument, right?

But… But… But… Supply curves slope up, and demand curves slope down.

Here is the market for subprime relative to conforming before Fannie Mae entered the market:"

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I want what Greenspan and conservative deniers are smoking...

[Chief of Kief]

The Mullahs want to hang this pot dealer, twice !!.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10384103/Iran-to-hang-drug-dealer-twice.html

[pagar22]

"Steny must be smoking something, he wants to pony up 300 billion, to fix the site,"

What happened to the deal where the ones that that built the mess were supposed to deliver a workable product or not get paid?

Where does Steny propose to get the 300 billion?
Why aren't the fraudsters in jail?

[Gmax]

Widow of Rep Young of Fla has publicly banned Charlie Crist from attending the funeral. Probably did not want to get that orange spray on tan stuff on her clothing...

[narciso]

Well I was off on the figure, pagar, but it's sane to give them one red cent, without an accounting for how the money was spent

[Green Dragon]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/wellington/fl-sunrise-cops-money-selling-drugs-1006,0,7669964.htmlpage

Forfeiture is just another tax and law enforcement and prison guard unions protest that they aren't gonna get their right to overtime.

I thought we lived in a Republican law enforcement paradise.

[narciso]

They are pretending Nan is still in charge;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/10/22/senior-hhs-official-to-brief-democratic-lawmakers-wednesday-on-obamacare/

[Green Dragon]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/wellington/fl-sunrise-cops-money-selling-drugs-1006,0,7669964.htmlpage

That's asset forfeiture for you.

Funding law enforcement salaries, overtime and pensions for the good of America.

[Ignatz]

--I want what Greenspan and conservative deniers are smoking...--

Comments 5 and 6 help J. Bradford out with some basic economics.

[Extraneus]

one red cent

Whoa, wait just a minute there...

Are you saying the Indian penny was racist???

[narciso]

You have an artificial demand, generating a non transparent product, that was interest rate sensitive, of course, Greenspan is interested in none of these considerations

[Skoot]

Looks like I wasn't far off when i joked CGI reused old code and double billed for it i'e the failed gun registry. And I'm sure it's proprietary and and Cost-plus so Obama's not getting a Canadian dime back. And they're not going to let some Silicon Valley democrat donors look at their code without substantial royalty. Bet. This couldn't get any more entertaining.

A young, very smart engineer I was in a meeting with today said "I'm sure it'll work" and then cracked a smile after we asked how they were gonna check the thing before an expensive test commenced. Big laugh all around. The young folks get it.

[matt]

The new prescription medicine will be choom. Low thyroid? choom. 2 year delay for hip replacement? Here, have some choom. Aneurysm? Smoke this. You'll feel better.

We are heading back to the days of witch doctors mixing potions.

[narciso]

You know we kind of gathered that;

http://therightscoop.com/report-obama-admin-didnt-know-what-it-wanted-with-obamacare-website/

[Green Dragon]

"We are heading back to the days of witch doctors mixing potions."

you mean psychotropic meds, and all varieties of poison masking the cause of disease and pain, bypassing the curative purpose of medicine?

Awareness is not your forte...

[narciso]

Well this would drive one to drink, caffeine, is my thing, so that's out;

http://washingtonexaminer.com/super-bowl-champ-baltimore-ravens-getting-paid-130000-to-promote-obamacare/article/2537602

[Stephanie]

Witch doctors?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.nj.com/monmouth_impact/photo/11683096-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2012/10/window_display_in_nj_store_that_depicts_obama_as_witch_doctor_gets_mixed_reviews.html&h=350&w=380&sz=24&tbnid=fe0E8_bdcgj8yM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=147&zoom=1&usg=__fgB4HYbman1dF764s6dM3AGvY80=&docid=Q1rJgLfA0mrucM&sa=X&ei=jxBnUseEDY_Q9gTh3oCABA&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAQ">http://media.nj.com/monmouth_impact/photo/11683096-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2012/10/window_display_in_nj_store_that_depicts_obama_as_witch_doctor_gets_mixed_reviews.html&h=350&w=380&sz=24&tbnid=fe0E8_bdcgj8yM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=147&zoom=1&usg=__fgB4HYbman1dF764s6dM3AGvY80=&docid=Q1rJgLfA0mrucM&sa=X&ei=jxBnUseEDY_Q9gTh3oCABA&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAQ">http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.nj.com/monmouth_impact/photo/11683096-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2012/10/window_display_in_nj_store_that_depicts_obama_as_witch_doctor_gets_mixed_reviews.html&h=350&w=380&sz=24&tbnid=fe0E8_bdcgj8yM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=147&zoom=1&usg=__fgB4HYbman1dF764s6dM3AGvY80=&docid=Q1rJgLfA0mrucM&sa=X&ei=jxBnUseEDY_Q9gTh3oCABA&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAQ

hmmm....

[Stephanie]

well spit that didn't work.

try this

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/17/obama.witchdoctor.teaparty/

[OldTimer]

The vile Alan Grayson's replacement?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/22/meet-the-hispanic-republican-who-wants-to-oust-alan-grayson/

[Donald]

I'm ok with the complete legalization of all drugs. It's a libertarian thing.

[Beasts of England]

Quick story: My ex just sent me a text laughing about a certain talk radio host. About eight years ago I brought home a book. The former Mrs. Beasts saw it and said 'Mark wrote a book?' I said how do you know Mark Levin? She said 'He's Alden's brother in law - you've met him several times, and we had dinner with him in DC.'

Too funny. I hadn't placed the name, but I'll never forget the voice! My good friend Alden is an uber-liberal - as is the rest of his family. Must have been some fun holidays before he and Kendal got divorced. lol

[Extraneus]

Awareness is not your forte...

Hmm...

[narciso]

'those words he is using'

[Ignatz]

--you mean psychotropic meds, and all varieties of poison masking the cause of disease and pain, bypassing the curative purpose of medicine?--

Some people's psychs need troping and for those that do the meds are better than the alternative.
And there are a great many areas where curatives do not exist and won't for some time, if ever. In those cases masking pain or slowing disease are very great goods, not poisons.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

You had dinner with the Great One, Beasts? My you've led a charmed life!

[Beasts of England]

Sure did! The thing I remember most about it - other than having a great time talking politics - was that he was really pissed that this swanky restaurant in DC charged us for each glass of iced tea, i.e., no free refills! Too funny.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Funny you mention that because he is extremely generous about providing his podcasts for no charge and usually gives signed copies of his books to callers to his show.

[Janet]

I think Matt @ 7:47 is right. We can add - our air is clean, we've got plenty of choom to smoke,...

[Eric in Boise]

Ext, I've got a twenty that says he pronounces it "FOR-tay".

And why do these skidmarks keep changing their monikers? Do they think they're throwing the NSA off of the trail?

[Green Dragon]

Yes. There is some payback from 'tropes, but is it the prescription for every diagnosis? Well, there is money to be made, after all. Or is it benign neglect; every fucker for his own self?

It's a matter of degree, don't you agree?

[sbwaters]

rse, check out http://www.engageny.org/resource/grade-1-english-language-arts-skills-strand. Isn't this phonics in detail?

The Skills Strand teaches the mechanics of reading–students are taught systematic and explicit phonics instruction as their primary tool for decoding written English. By the end of grade 2, students have learned all of the sound‐spelling correspondences in the English language and are able to decode written material they encounter. In addition to phonics, students also are taught spelling, grammar, and writing during the Skills Strand.

[Beasts of England]

The ex just texted 'Gosh I thought y'all would never shut up.' lol

@Cap't Hate - I think the crappy service also exacerbated the tea situation.

[pagar22]

How much would one have to smoke to make sense of this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10396170/Taxpayers-foot-350k-legal-bill-for-Muslim-pubic-hair-battle.html

Proof that all taxpayer ripoffs are not in the USA.

[Ignatz]

David French at NRO compares the Tea Party hope of stopping or blunting Barrycare to the 'let em suffer and they'll hate the Dems' approach and finds the TP plan more humane and more realistic.

[Green Dragon]

'let em suffer and they'll hate the Dems' approach and finds the TP plan more humane and more realistic.'

Hmm. That would have been the wiser course. Do you know who you're dealing with?

[glasater]

Happy Birthday, Narciso! It's been the best part of ten years we've been hanging out at JOM together.

[narciso]

Thanks, it has been that long hasn't it?

Interesting how they had this part right, then they botched it;

http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/161028-the-obamacare-website-didnt-have-to-fail-dot-how-to-do-better-next-time

[daddy]

Happy Birthday Narciso!

.

[narciso]

Thanks, a look down memory lane, reminded me of this blogger's delicate slattering of Delong;

http://www.musil.blogspot.com/2003/10/valley-of-denial-as-everyone-now-knows.html

[daddy]

Maybe Obama has ordered his NSA Tech geeks to secretly dick up Typepad so that people will think his completely shitty ObamaCare.gov website is par for the course.

I bet that not a one of us here would put that past the useless turd.

BTW,

I am unable to get a post to take today unless I include a photo. Don't know why, but this one was eaten 4 times before I added this:

[daddy]

test

[caro]

Happy birthday to the brilliant Narciso. And when this miserable eight years is finally over, we can all say we came through it together.

[narciso]

It was around this time, three years ago, that we were last in contact with PeterUK

[Threadkiller]

The Five panel take on O'Reilly's birther talking point. VP Dick Cheney says the extremist in DC is Obama...

http://youtu.be/IT9je6XzhC4

Fox is losing its unity.

[Dave (in MA)]

And many more,

[Account Deleted]

Narciso,

The Business Week dreck still ignores the fact 404Care.fail is only of interest to parasites or those hoping to become parasites. If you can't earn your Parasite First Class badge, then you can shop ehealth and pay the extortion directly to the fascists at Blue GovIns without ever interfacing with the Feds.

[BB Key]

POI in 12 HB narc

[Gus]

Narciso. HAPPY BIRTHDAY WISHES from GUS.

[narciso]

Well after the former EPA official, nothing surprises me anymore

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/326310-jofi-joseph-white-house-official-fired-for-tweeting-under-fake-name-report/

[daddy]

Quiz Time:

Henry Waxman says that the blame for the failure of the Obamacare rollout is due to:

1) Obama
2) Sibelius
3) The Private Sector

Waxman Claims Private Sector Responsible for Obamacare Glitches

KIRSTEN WELKER: Congressman, just very quickly, yes or no, should Secretary Sebelius keep her job?

HENRY WAXMAN: Absolutely. There’s no reason for her not to continue on as secretary. She’s done a terrific job. I have a great deal of confidence in her. She doesn’t know about all technicalities. That was contracted out to the private sector, the private sector with all the money they got couldn’t get it. If anybody’s head should roll, it should be the contractors who didn’t live up to their contractual responsibilities.

Waxman failed to mention that HHS selected CGI Federal to produce healthcare.gov and is fully responsible for ensuring the competency of their contractors.

[MarkO]

This just in:

It is a hate crime to put Juan Williams on television and ask him a question.

[rse]

sbw-

Your link took me back to a previous thread. I will look at it but standards are not self executing. You have what is mandated by accreditors or a principal or the curricula or the online digital programs that are to "teach" such relationships.

Then if someone says "what about phonics?" you have the standard to quote even if it lacks the capability to get teachers to rebel against the system that worries that phonetic reading ignites individualism and an independent logical mind.

What I have explained will not hit everywhere at the same time but it is what undergirds what is going on and what is sought and why. My hope is that by explaining it I can give both parents and teachers and taxpayers some leverage to say "Is this really your intention?"

Or "Do you really think an ed degree, especially after what I have explained, is a credential that deserves deference while it plans societies and economies?"

[narciso]

Ah, now I see the pattern here, who pointed the finger first at CGI, much like Lerner's misdirect about the IG report, so they would discount the criticism, of the administration's snafu, wonkblog

[sbwaters]

Sorry, rse, try this: http://www.engageny.org/resource/grade-1-english-language-arts-skills-strand"

[BB Key]

MarkO , The genius of Roger , not to mention the timing of the move he made after he was fired from NPR

[sbwaters]

rse, you have created an incredible resource. Thank you.

[Beasts of England]

Waxman's physiognomy is terrifying.

[cajunkate]

I'm pumped after attending a Ted Cruz rally in Arlington, TX this evening. A special treat was his father, Raul who introduced him. And I do believe our standing ovation beat the 8 minute standing O he got in San Antonio!

[Account Deleted]

"Waxman's physiognomy is terrifying."

He's hella scary looking as well.

[Ignatz]

--It is a hate crime to put Juan Williams on television and ask him a question.--

Trying to decide if it's more hateful toward the people who see him answer or toward Juan by exposing what a horse's ass he is when he answers.
It's a quandary, I tell ya.

[Ignatz]

Interestingly, Henry sometimes drops the specs and wears contacts. Vanity thy name is Waxman;

[narciso]

The evils of the Canadian Menace, are both subtle and numerous;

http://freebeacon.com/spox-anti-keystone-report-contains-inaccuracies-about-koch-industries/

[daddy]

The Talking Point on the fired White House Official who doubled as a Twitter troll, in Narciso's 10:02 link, will be this:

"...his wife, Carolyn Leddy, is a well-respected professional staffer on the Republican side of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "

That exact phrase is starting to pop up all over the web.

[narciso]

True, but he worked for Casey and Biden, before moving on to Tauscher,

[daddy]

"Waxman's physiognomy is terrifying."

Beasts,

It almost makes you think there have been something to that old "science" of Phrenology.

phrenology |freˈnäləjē|

noun chiefly historical

the detailed study of the shape and size of the cranium as a supposed indication of character and mental abilities.

[narciso]

What is it with these people,

This is what this Joseph person, said last year;

“So when will someone do us the favor of getting rid of Sarah Palin and the rest of her white trash family? What utter useless garbage .... ,” he tweeted last October.

His better half seems to be much more able by contrast,

[Frau Fragezeichen]

daddy alert!

The latest Orvis catalog has a double page appeal to raise funds for Trout Unlimited to save(?) Bristol Bay from the Pebble mine which will store metal sulfide mine tailings behind man-made dams. Have you heard about this endeavor?

[OldTimer]

Sebelius: Obama Did Not Know About Obamacare Website Glitches

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/22/sebelius_obama_did_not_know_about_obamacare_website_glitches.html

[Ignatz]

Richard Vigurie and Tom DeLay don't see too much unity, but a lot of primaries in the GOP's future.

[daddy]

And since we're talking about "choom"and legalizing illegal drugs, I thought this bit from the brand new book of Memoirs by Brit Evolutionist/Atheist Richard Dawkins was interesting:

(from page 12, wherein he is is talking about his Father's cousin, john Smythie)

Bertram's younger brother John Smythie departed from family tradition and became a distinguished neuroscientist and authority on schizophrenia and psychedelic drugs, living in California, where he is credited with inspiring Aldous Huxley to take mescaline and cleanse his 'doors of perception'. I recently asked his advice on whether to accept the kind offer of a friend to mentor me through an LSD trip. He advised against.

[Frau Fragezeichen]

Not quite as funny as a Benny Hill skit...

Sibelius on CNN: "The call center is open for business. We've had 1,100,000 calls. We've had 19 million people visit the website. Five-hundred thousand accounts created and people shopping every day. So, people are signing up and there's help in neighborhoods around the country that people can have a one-on-one visit with a trained navigator and figure out how to sign up. So people are able to sign up."

If you are lonely, why not ask a "trained navigator" for a one-on-one visit?

[Beasts of England]

I have no reason to doubt that a person's outside appearance relates directly to their pathology, viz. Hillary.

[Ignatz]

Vlad Putin has taken to bragging about the rising Russian birth rate. Little noted is that almost all the highest rates are in muslim provinces. Daniel Pipes discusses the possibility of a muslim Russia.

[BB Key]

POI, it was much simpler when it was 2 guys, a dog and a computer

[Beasts of England]

Janet Reno also comes to mind. Unfortunately.

[daddy]

daddy alert!

The latest Orvis catalog has a double page appeal to raise funds for Trout Unlimited to save(?) Bristol Bay from the Pebble mine which will store metal sulfide mine tailings behind man-made dams. Have you heard about this endeavor?

Frau I have not, but my guess is that the Pebble Mine project is dead as a doornail. What with the Media, the Lawsuits, Hollywood, Senator Cantwell from Washington State, The Obama Administration, and the EPA already stepping in to say that they don't believe the Project is safe before any project plans have even been submitted, I think there is almost zero chance of the Project going through. Just last month one of the Big Companies pushing for the Project bailed out:

Just three weeks after mining giant Anglo American abruptly announced it was pulling out of the proposed Pebble gold and copper mine, the Pebble Partnership said it is laying off numerous staff members and suspending contracts.

Northern Dynasty Minerals Ltd., a Canadian exploration firm that is seeking to develop Pebble as its first project, will be left as the sole company in the Pebble Partnership, spokesman Mike Heatwole said Monday.

Of Pebble's 70 or so direct employees, an untold number were let go last week...

The Left's continual campaign to make Alaska a terribly expensive and unfriendly environment for any business wishing to engage in new drilling or mining projects has been very successful.

[MarkO]

Unsurprisingly, Obama exhibits all the defense mechanisms common to the narcissistic personality disorder in his political life: denial, devaluation, projection and rationalization.

Leading from behind is essential for the unstable person who is currently President. He cannot accept criticism or blame. It shames him.

"Because of a propensity to internalize failure, the narcissist's emotional response to failure is to feel shame, as opposed to guilt felt by people without the disorder. So in order to avoid shame, which the narcissist feels must be avoided at all costs, he externalizes blame for negative events."

We are being governed by a very sick man.

[Ignatz]

Jim Geraghty at NRO with a very interesting and revealing story demonstrating almost all of the supposed new Barrycare enrollees on fed and state exchanges are not new people buying private insurance but new people being enrolled in expanded Medicaid; IOW a vast new burden on the system with no commensurate premiums.

[rse]

sbw-I adore the language in that attached "appendix" to your link but as you now know it contravenes the entire philosophy of reading if you want to avoid producing what Dewey called a Sharpy.

I know CK and Hirsch believe that is what the standards are to do. I have had an ongoing discussion with them for several years that the implementing docs will not bring this to the classroom. It has always been my belief that keeping them on board was important for PR purposes. CK has been interspersed into the Expeditionary Learning project oriented curriculum which I think is a bad fit. I think EL prevails.

This is in many ways an overwhelming story for me to have walked into. For everything I cited and what I told I held plenty in reserve. As I have said I told what I thought was necessary but not everything I know on any of those topics.

Many people will come at this where one or two aspects of the story interest them most. They will get what they need and can later pick up the rest as it interests them. My goal was that never again from any direction would anyone wonder why.

And to have some hope of stopping the attached toxic political and economic visions of the future.