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October 21, 2013

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Threadkiller

http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/10/media-admits-forging-documents-easy.html?m=1


Hmmm.

steve

Why would anyone actually bother to signup or pay for insurance?

Go without insurance, wait to see if you get sick or hurt, then go to the doctor and claim that you had signed up through the federal exchange. Given the screwups, there's no way anybody would know if you had even tried...

Porchlight

Reposting bgates' brilliant channeling of today's Obama speech from a couple of threads back:

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Thank you and good afternoon. I am here today to celebrate the fact that thanks to my efforts and the efforts of the Democratic Congress of 2009, for the first time health care will be provided to the poor in America. And to rebut the ridiculous claims of the Tea Party-controlled Republican Congress that say the insurance market has been eliminated, I have with me just a few of the many who are already benefiting from my signature legislative accomplishment. To give them each the special attention they deserve, I'm going to ask them to join me on stage one at a time.

Chad Henderson, who I know many of you already know, is a struggling young college student who dreams of a better life. Thanks to the Affordable Health Care Act, he can now afford those dreams. Thank you, Chad, for your bravery. I'll give you a moment to step off the stage before I call our next...um...name.

Carlos Hijo de Enriques is a struggling young differently documented American immigrant who dreams of a better life for himself and his eighteen brothers and sisters and cousins. Thanks to the DREAM section of the Affordable Health Care Act, they can now pursue those dreams in America, for free.

Hendo Carlsen is a disabled gay associate professor of autoerotica and constitutional law at the University of Wisconsin and the author of "Right to Bare Arms: How a Simple Typo Led to Centuries of Racist Murders". He has been without health insurance and near death since Scott Walker revoked his one-man union this spring. Now thanks to the Affordable Care Act, he's been able to resume work on his magnum opus, "Guns Are Gay: You Like Holding Something That Black Hard And Powerful, Huh?" Hendo, you're an inspiration.

C. Hen Son's family has lived in California since the 1840s, a fact which he spent the last 90 minutes unsuccessfully attempting to explain to the Vice President. He now has health insurance.

Now it's true that there were some hiccups, which should not be surprising during an unprecedented shutdown of the government. I was busy trying to ensure proper access to my war memorials and national parks, so the difficulties on the internet were allowed to back up. I was also faced with an attempt to prevent an increase in our nation's debt limit. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It should be increased without question. We are not a nation of deadbeats, and we must be willing to borrow as much as it takes to maintain our good credit.

Now if you will excuse me, the noontime Sports Center is about to start, and I don't want to miss it because they're going to rebroadcast my remarks in full, plus I'm going to be in the open. Duh-nu-nuh! Duh-nu-nuh!

Posted by: bgates | October 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Weeks away? Well, you can measure years in weeks...

Porchlight

Gallup: Number of Uninsured Americans Who Will Refuse To Join Obamacare And Instead Pay Individual Mandate Fine Jumps To 34%, Up 9 Points Since Last Month…

7 in 10 uninsured Americans not familiar with exchanges, unchanged since September

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165500/uninsured-americans-unfamiliar-health-exchanges.aspx

h/t Weasel Zippers

Porchlight

Sorry, my mistake in Gallup comment above: 7 in 10 uninsured Americans ARE aware of individual mandate - 3 in 10 are not aware.

But of the 7 in 10 who are aware, 50% say they will refuse to sign up (e.g. 34% of all uninsured)

Disaster

Army of Davids

Credit o Ted Cruz and Michelle Bachman...they have consistently makde the case that ObamaCare is a job killer

Not enough of that coming from the GOP

It needs to be hammered over and over and over again

Extraneus

Insurers have found that the system provides them with incorrect information about some enrollees, repeatedly enrolls and cancels the enrollments of others, and simply loses the enrollments of still others.

I am skeptical about this.

I just think this website glitsch stuff is over-rated and will be fixed soon enough. The real problem isn't the code but the underlying business logic: the law itself.

Porchlight

Extraneus, I read about those back end problems in insurance industry trade publications as early as Oct 3rd. I think it is for real.

Agree with you that the law is the real problem. But I think the website is majorly screwed up.

daddy

Religion o' Peace update:

An OT I read about in todays Malaysian New Straits Times may be of interest.

As I understand it, a ruling recently came down from the Malaysian Courts determining that the Home Minister's decision that it was illegal for non-Muslims to use the word "Allah", was legal.

Specifically the decision as I understand it, was determining whether a local Catholic publication was allowed to use the word "Allah" in it's publication, and if so, was another publication (The Malaysian Version of the Bible) still allowed to use the word "Allah"?

The Strait Times story was a little confusing, so here is a story that I think explains it a bit better, and some of the comments are worth reading to try to figure out the reasoning and ramifications of the Home Minister banning the use of the word "Allah" by non-Muslims:

Allah decision binding on all Malaysians, says retired AG Abu Talib

The appellate court agreed that the Home Minister could ban the word "Allah" in the Catholic weekly Herald, but two Cabinet ministers had insisted the decision did not include the Al-Kitab, the Bahasa Malaysia bible widely used in Sabah and Sarawak, and other Christian publications in East Malaysia.

Abu Talib, who was the chief legal adviser...said there cannot be exemptions given to Sabah and Sarawak on this religious issue based on region or state."

Abu Talib said the central issue decided was whether people and institutions other than Muslims could use the word.

"The Court of Appeal has made a finding that the name Allah is not an integral part of the faith and practice of Christianity and, by that extension, the word is exclusive to Islam and Muslims."

So all that said, would somebody please tell John McCain that "Allah Akbar" and "Thank God" ain't exactly the same, since if a Christian in Malaysia says "Allah" his thanks is a one way ticket to jail and only Allah God knows what is gonna' happen to the poor bastard after that.

Janet

posting again -

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One would have to depend upon the fascists running Blue GovIns to provide accurate information regarding policies in force on a YoY basis in order to make a determination of the scope of failure. Absent a verifiable account of policies in force as of 4/1/13, we will be dealing with "policies created or saved" metrics for the balance of the reign of BOzo I. (Weren't his new clothes just smashing this morning?)

daddy

Bgates effed up!

Chad Henderson
Carlos Hijo de Enriques
Hendo Carlsen
C. Hen Son

He figgered there was 4 people actually signed up, whereas there was actually only 3:)

MarkO

Why would any reasonable person believe anything the Obama administration said?

NK(tryin'2.0)

Porch-- thanks for that link. Gallup doesn't get --directly-- to the real issue IMO, which is how many current healthy/working uninsureds will pay insurance premiums into the heathcare Exchanges so they 'work' financially as predicted by the ObummerCare statute. According to the CBO MORE THAN 2 Million of these 'Immortals' will have to buy Exchange insurance at full premiums to raise $15B/year or so in order to subsidize the low income/sick insureds who get Exchange policies which take Exchanges into negative immediately. No way that many 'Immortals' will buy UNsubsidized insurance, and Gallup hints at that b/c as people learn a bit more about ObummerCare, the % of those who say they'll buy drops by a higher %. Well, that drop ain't from subsidized or serious pre-existing condition buyers, it's the healthy Immortals who refuse to buy these lousy policies and will pay the tax instead. Which means nationally, Exchanges will be Billions in the hole right off the bat, so they'll have to raise rates to paying insured groups and individuals. And the Exchanges that will be in the hole WORST are those which have the most success signing up subsidized/pre-existing negatives- I bet those are the Blue Hells, which means the Blue Hells whill have the highest rate increases for existing insureds. Oh, the beautiful irony.

Soylent Red

Why is it that every speech he gives reads like an email from a Nigerian phishing scammer?

Probably because we have a Kendonesian scam artist in office. I used to think he was Preznit 404. Now I think he's Preznit 419.

NK(tryin'2.0)

TomM-- what happens to rates for existing insureds when the Exchanges in those states turn out to be money losers and Obummer can't 'bailout' those exchanges. Let's pick an inconsequential State, say Ct. I'm sure the Blue horde in Ct will sign up lots of subsidized Exchange insureds. Full paying immortals? -- not so much (are there any employed immortals in Ct?). The Ct insurers Aetna, Oxford, et al will take a hit-- don't they owe it to their shareholders to increase rates for existing in-state insureds, like the Family Maguire?

NK(tryin'2.0)

..OR will Aetna/United Health spread the pain by nationalizing their Exchange losses?

Miss Marple

NK, I think that rates will go up for those insured through employers who use insurance companies which have exchanges.

Therefore, if I owned stock in any of those insurers, I would sell.

Heard a guy on Rush (Steyn filling in) who is a physical therapist. He received 2 letters asking him to sign up to provide services to ACA patients. When he called to find out what he would be paid, no one knew. He subsequently discovered that doctors don't know what they will be paid, either. (This was in Houston.)

Marlene

Three of thirteen? Why were the other ten there? Well,one was there to provide the fainting photo op.

daddy

Well, one was there to provide the fainting

Did ObamaCare cover her for fainting or did she have to pay out of pocket?

Porchlight

Beyond the insurers, I still don't understand how the states are going to be able to afford the Medicaid explosion and the Medicare contraction w/o going bankrupt.

NK(tryin'2.0)

Porch-- now you sound like Govs Perry amd Walker.

Porchlight

Medicare contraction in funding, that is. Medicaid explosion in enrollments.

Porchlight

You bet, NK.

Studying Obamacare - it's like you're in a labyrinth and every path leads to the abyss.

Miss Marple

I went on Medicare in September and bought a premium supplement policy which pays anything Medicare doesn't pay (as long as it is a covered treatment) including fees which Medicare considers "excessive."

I figured that maybe I would be able to get a doctor when others couldn't because they would see that they were guaranteed payment.

Of course, now the enrollment period has started so this policy will probably get the heave-ho from Obama as well.

Porchlight

Miss Marple, I *think* all policyholders of any kind were supposed to have been notified prior to the enrollment period if their policies would be affected. Of course given the circumstances I wouldn't count on anything...

Miss Marple

Me, either, Porchlight.

I am glad we are escaping this as the enrollment for medicare, drug coverage, and the supplement was very confusing. I am not a stupid person, but when you are staring at about 30 envelopes from insurance companies all which contain different methods of explaining what they are offering, you sort of get confused.

I found a guy who is an agent and has made this his area of expertise and he had a program which calculated which would be the best for me. I otherwise would have been flying blind.

Porchlight

BTW Obama was supposed to pivot to amnesty immediately after the shutdown. Kinda looks like he has some other problems on his hands.

Seriously, it amazes me that anyone thinks that (barring unforeseen events) 2014 will not be a referendum on Obamacare. The shutdown will be a distant memory.

Porchlight

I can't even imagine navigating Medicare, Miss Marple. If I did I would absolutely hire an agent to help. Thank goodness I don't (yet) have to navigate Obamacare.

Speaking of the Navigators (creepy title), currently being recruited from SEIU and Acorn remnant orgs. I have heard they will have access to everyone's private info via the "system." Can that possibly be true (assuming a functioning "system")?

jimmyk

I still don't understand how the states are going to be able to afford the Medicaid explosion and the Medicare contraction w/o going bankrupt.

It depends on when and how much you think the Feds will renege on the promise to fund 90% of the expansion. Any governor or state legislature that fell for this should be ashamed. It was really part of Barry's pincer strategy of Medicare on one side and Medicaid closing in on the other, with the wreck of the exchanges in the middle, leaving us with single-payer.

NK(tryin'2.0)

jimmyk@1:51-- that in a nutshell is the gangster dems' evil plan for this country;

Porch@1:43-- I agree with that, so how was the shutdown a good idea for conservatives? wasn't it an unhelpful and unwanted distraction?

Porchlight

Porch@1:43-- I agree with that, so how was the shutdown a good idea for conservatives? wasn't it an unhelpful and unwanted distraction?

No because the shutdown lasted two weeks and was kicked off by Cruz railing against Obamacare. Everyone knew immediately, from the beginning, where the Repubs stood: stop the Obamacare disaster while we still can.

That is what they will remember a year from now, after a solid year of Obamacare news going from bad to worse. Not two weeks of "GOP ZOMG SHUTDOWN" media BS.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

I heard the Iranian Rodent was there applauding Gaylord Focker's performance like he was chanting "Death to the Great Satan".

NK(tryin'2.0)

Porch-- TBD, but polls don't support your 2:05. To date, polls show GOP as modest loser from Shutdown, and TP big loser (the TP won the worst demagogued award)-- so to this point, Repubs/Conservatives attacks on ObummerCare are starting from a hole (unnecessary hole) due to the shutdown. Cruz/TP were preaching to us before/during the shutdown-- but we didn't need any convincing.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

NK, Tea Party candidate Steve Lonegan outperformed Romney by a wide margin in losing to flavor of the month Corey Booker last Wednesday. That's the only poll I care about.

NK(tryin'2.0)

An Oct 16th special election-- c'mon, that is not a useful data point. Nor is Christie if he wins NJ by 25+% a useful data point.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Oh ok, keep banging those polls with 20% government workers out of 800+ participants. Sounds like a solid foundation.

maryrose

NK;
I guess we won't convince you . However as Porch says. Today was supposed to be about amnesty. Instead we got the ACA shuck and jive show. So what if it was delayed by 10 days. O-care stinks just as badly today as it did on Oct.1st. Only now with 3 weeks under its belt it shoukd be humming along nicely. It isn't And that sits squarely on the shoulders of Obama and the dems. In Jan and Feb still vanquished from their clobbering by O-care, I wonder if delay might sound a little different to them.

Porchlight

Porch-- TBD, but polls don't support your 2:05. To date, polls show GOP as modest loser from Shutdown

Yes, exactly, TBD. I am talking about what people will think a year from now, not what they are saying to pollsters now.

Hell, what they are saying to pollsters could be different in a just a week or two, given the way this thing is rolling.

(A) nuther Bub

Reposting bgates' brilliant channeling of today's Obama speech from a couple of threads back:

"Brilliant" is the right descriptor, Porch. Almost as inspired as bgates's "If you like your immortal soul you can keep your immortal soul." I can't even type that without cracking up.

Who are you, bgates? Am I the only one here who doesn't know.

MarkO

bgates owns Microsoft.

NK(tryin'2.0)

Results persuade me.

For all our sakes I hope Christie doesn't win by 29% and Cuccinelli loses by 10%. THOSE RESULTS would be very bad for conservatives. BTW-- I think that's exactly what will happen election day.

NK(tryin'2.0)

Porch- I agree the Nov '14 results are what matter. Think of the college course grade, the final course grade is what counts. The first quiz is only 10% of that final grade, the final exam is say 60% of the course Grade. But if you botch the first quiz it makes you have to pull a better final exam grade to get the Final Course 'A'. Polls are showing conservatives botched the shutdown quiz. So that will amke winning the Senate as a Final Course grade harder, than it could have been. It's an 'opportunty cost.'

Porchlight

Fair enough NK...but the Christie and Cuccinelli results you posit could well have been the outcome with or without the shutdown, given the state of those races over the last several weeks. So I don't know that they are any more predictive than Booker/Lonegan.

(A) nuther Bub

Oh ok, keep banging those polls with 20% government workers out of 800+ participants. Sounds like a solid foundation.

In my home state that would be about right. In the last figures I saw published, one out of every 5 non-military adults here works for either the fed, the state, or city government.

Porchlight

So that will amke winning the Senate as a Final Course grade harder, than it could have been. It's an 'opportunty cost.'

Maybe. But maybe *not* taking that stand against Obamacare at that time would have been an opportunity cost.

We just don't know yet.

maryrose

NK:
We will see about Virginia. I am still hopeful that these good people of Janet's state have the full measure of weasel McAuliffe. However having elected warner and Kaine in the past this great state needs to be tweaked in the right direction. Just remember Cucinnelli was the first to fight against O-care in the nation. McAuliffe never took a principled stand in his life.
Someone said we are not shouting about job losses from O-care. On every station dems say there is no proof of this and shout down whoever says it. I saw them do it on Meghan's show and Cavuto. This is their weak area and they get apoplectic if anyone dares to say it is a job killer.

maryrose

NK;
i think you are putting too much store in biased polls. They want the repubs to look weakened ergo they skew the polls to make it true. I don't trust them because dems are losing on O-care and they haven't shown much about that. They cover up dem bad news. No one of the criminals in the State Dept. or the IRS is getting any punishment for their wrongdoing. Will the Black Panthers be out on election day in 2014? Of course because no consequence if they harass some white people and try to prevent them from voting.

NK(tryin'2.0)

Porch@2:41, completely right, I was only making the point that Lonegan-Booker special election is a completely useless data point. The Christie-Cuccinelli elections are MORE useful, but not referendums on the shutdown either. But if those elections go the way I think they will-- we'll get DEATH of THE TEA PARTY 24/7 in the Legacy Media, and that's an issue.

Porchlight

In the last figures I saw published, one out of every 5 non-military adults here works for either the fed, the state, or city government.

But nationwide, it is about 8%.

To be fair, the question asked "do you or a member of your household work for the federal government"? so that does expand it somewhat. I think 20% is still a reach.

But anyway, even if that poll is 100% on the money, I don't think the conditions on the ground will be the same in 2014.

Porchlight

But if those elections go the way I think they will-- we'll get DEATH of THE TEA PARTY 24/7 in the Legacy Media

For sure, that is true. Not to sound like a broken record, but we are going to get DEATH OF THE TEA PARTY anyway. :)

(A) nuther Bub

I saw my rheumatologist last week and he says it has already begun, that in the past few months he's been unable to get Medicare to approve useful but costly drugs for his patients 75 and older, and they must now rely on cheap palliatives only. Asked whether he'd write an appeal for me, he said he'd be happy to, but "Please don't get your hopes up, A. Bub. I've written on behalf of a number of patients recently, documenting they will become very ill and disabled without their meds, but every appeal has been rejected."

He also talked about how he looks forward to leaving the medical profession via retirement and says that in a decade the quality of care we are accustomed to now will be only a distant and revered memory. Any talented young person should be dissuaded from a medical career, he believes, advice that comes too late for my family members but possibly not for yours.

NK(tryin'2.0)

If Cuccinelli wins, the Legacy Media death of the TP meme will be less persuasive to the persuadable voter.

maryrose

AB:'
I am very sorry to hear this today. I am hopeful you will find a way to continue your active life.There has to be a way to counteract this destruction of our good healthcare. Can you get any medication from Canada. I think saving some of it is a good start but we need a long term solution. I will keep praying for you and for a solution.

maryrose

The Tea Party is alive and well despite Barry's attempt to silence it via the IRS and targeting of groups and candidates. It is the legacy media that is dead. That message should be repeated ad nauseum.

daddy

Someone said we are not shouting about job losses from O-care. On every station dems say there is no proof of this and shout down whoever says it.

Larry Kudlow constantly peddles that nonsense that there is data out there that shows that the reason all these hirings and cut backs for Part time workers (under 30 hours) has nothing to do with ObamaCare, even tho' I constantly here callers to talk Radio say that as employers that is exactly why they are doing it. It depresses me when Kudlow continually puts out that same meme. I heard Rahm Emanual's brother (an Architect of ObamaCare) 2 weeks back on some Talk Show spout the exact same nonsense.

I can handle the Emanual brothers lies since I expect such lies from corrupt Big Government Socialists, but when Kudlow, who constantly describes himself as America's greatest proponent of "The Free Market System" fails to see that this Part Time hiring shutdown is as good an example of the Free Market system in action that he's ever going to see in his lifetime, it drives me bonkers.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

That NJ special election was being called a "referendum on the shutdown" by the MFM until Lonegan performed better than expected and the meme got dumped down the memory hole. Say what you will about it being a special election; Cruz's strategy didn't produce an immediate ZOMGWTFBBQ negative reaction and I doubt it will over a year from now.

It irritated the same sex senators, J-Linds, though so it served at least one good purpose.

NK(tryin'2.0)

By your cause/effect logic, if Christie wins by 29% and Cuccineli loses by 10% (regularly scheduled off year elections) doesn't that mean that the shutdown was a massive disaster for TP conservatives?

(A) nuther Bub

Thanks, maryrose, but I'm one of the luckier ones with a valuable property to sell, if that's what can keep me from disability. I'm just warning you adolescents here that age 75 comes around pretty quickly, even while still feeling perky and buying your duds from Anthropologie. JOMers know better, but I still have lefty pals who continue to mock Palin for discussing "death panels." They're going to find out the reality too, I'm afraid.

maryrose

AB:
That is good to know. Palin was completely correct about the death panels which was why she had to be demonized and virtually driven from office. She found the nugget of truth and had to be silenced. If we were Russia, she would be in a gulag as we speak.

maryrose

daddy:
BretBaier says almost every night that Obamacare is killing jobs. Steve Doocy also says it frequently in the morning. Lou Dobbs says it every night and shows his work on a blackboard. We need to shout louder than the dems.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Races for governor have their own dynamics which is why there are more Repub governors now. I hope Cuccinelli wins but I'm afraid Virginia's lost its collective mind aside from the shutdown.

Rob Crawford

They're saying 5 MILLION lines of code may need to be rewritten?

Folks, a quick estimation based on a few projects where I work has 1/2 a million lines of code consuming 50 man-years of developer time. That doesn't include testers and managers and so on.

Miss Marple

I just booked a ticket to meet my husband in Rome over Christmas. I was worried about spending money, but decided if I am going to have to live in this grim Orwellian kingdom that I might as well go see a city I have always wanted to visit.

Husband gets a free ticket from his company, so all we will be paying is for hotel and food, since I will pay for the ticket on the next CC bill.

maryrose

Rob:
Good to hear from you. How long do you think it will take to fix this turkey?

NK(tryin'2.0)

RobC-- well that's depressing. 100 man years? They could probably do that by the end of '13... they have virtually unlimited resources to throw at this.

maryrose

MM:
Good for you Have a great trip. Ciao!

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Hey Rob; yes it's massive and Preznit Easy Bake, having never had a real job, is typically clueless about the scope of the undertaking.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

That's a thousand man years and it assumes that all the systems with which it interfaces will just shut down to accommodate this pig.

Not.Even.Close.

Threadkiller

It was 10 million lines of code before Cruz shut the government down.

Man did he ever screw this up.

OldTimer

"Throw the bums out!" doesn't even begin to address the problem we confront, or cover the shock of learning the extent of pay-offs and graft (we're all paying for) in Washington.

Corrupt Bastards Club, indeed...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/21/Congress-Charges-Secret-Fee-to-Land-Top-Committee-Spots

NK(tryin'2.0)

I think we were both wrong... 500 man years? Help us out here RobC.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

500 it is

jimmyk

I don't think it follows that "men" and "years" are interchangeable, as if 10,000 programmers could do it in 18 days.

NK(tryin'2.0)

Could 1,000 programers do it in 180 days? (cost being no object) Help us out here RobC.

maryrose

But cost should be an object. They already wasted a ton of money on a system that doesn't work.This is why the government should not be in charge of this large of a program. They are bound to screw it up.
All our former allies are sick of our spying on them. First France,now Mexico. No wonder Snowden flew the coop.

Stephanie on kindle armchair QB flea flicker enthusiast

You can't just throw unlimited manpower at a database integration as they will step on each other's updates and coding. There is a bell curve where additional resources hinder rather than help. The cross architectural integration will keep the sucker in a broken state as each group writes code to interface with existing code that is also in transition and refails each time it is remarried for testing. When 100% of your code is in flux ain't nothing gonna be fixed quickly.

henry

Add another 500 man years of meetings to coordinate... It all depends on the design detail and system architectures. From what has been reported, the architecture is the problem. That is a redo, not a patch.

Threadkiller

Rrpeal and Reprogram.

Threadkiller

Repeal...

MaryD

NK, I'll answer your 4:34 question -- Not No, but but HELL NO. It would be a total goat rodeo.

MaryD

I agree with Stephanie, who put it far more elegantly, but I stand by my response. :-)

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Stephanie FTW

Stephanie on kindle armchair QB flea flicker enthusiast

But lil ole uncredentialled me is "over qualified" for data analyst jobs or so the credentialled said when I spent 2 years looking for work after 15 years in IT. :(

Probably the same schmucks spewing code and excuses on this project, too. :spit:

Stephanie on kindle armchair QB flea flicker enthusiast

Over qualified being PM code for "too old and not credentialled."

Captain Hate on the iPhone

And again, this assumes that all the current systems are in the good to go mode. With all the hope and chump change garbage that the Indonesian imbecile has inflicted, there have to be a shit ton of projects which have been bright crimson for quite a while with a further logjam in the hopper.

NK(tryin'2.0)

IT experts-- thanks-- so this pig is no where for many months. No wonder Obummer was particularly useless today.

MaryD

NK and Stephanie, here's a quote form a Hot Air commenter that seems spot on and made me smile:
"Repairing a complex software suite while it is runnning over the next weeks or months is akin to rebuilding an airplane while it is in flight".

I would replace "software suite" with "ginormous and overreaching software application" but that's just a quibble.

jimmyk

"Repairing a complex software suite while it is runnning over the next weeks or months is akin to rebuilding an airplane while it is in flight".

In my limited experience, it's more like building a second airplane connected to the first one, and when the new one is functional everyone moves to it.

Stephanie

That's assuming JimmyK that you have blueprints that actually build an airplane instead of the submarine the gov spec'd out delivered with a chinese instruction manual on how to fly it.

moflicky

I'm a software developer and we have a saying.

You want it functional, you want it cheap and you want it soon. Pick any two but we'll probably only be able to deliver one.

In this case, they had plenty of money and lots of time to deliver a functional product. they missed on all three.

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