You're Damn Right We Ordered The Code Red

The NY Times finds an unapologetic spy:

Dennis C. Blair, Mr. Obama’s first director of national intelligence, declined to speak specifically about the Merkel case. But he noted that “in our intelligence relationship with countries like France and Germany, 90 to 95 percent of our activity is cooperative and sharing, and a small proportion is about gaining intelligence we can’t obtain in other ways.”

He said he had little patience for the complaints of foreign leaders. “If any foreign leader is talking on a cellphone or communicating on unclassified email, what the U.S. might learn is the least of their problems.”

I imagine that is a bit of a strawman, since US interception and decryption technology is presumably pre-eminent. Still, his feistiness is refreshing.

Comments

[MarkO]

Exactly. We're all suspected terrorists.

Next up? "You have nothing to worry about unless you are doing something wrong."

[Stephanie]

Thread a thon.

TM's opening more threads today than Obama's opening Kool packs.

[Frau Grosse Überraschung!]

My s-i-l reported yesterday that Obama's some other American devil's spying is topic Nummer Eins in the German media. Barry's BF Angela is very, repeat, very *disapoointed* in the exposure of the misdeeds originating in the Spite House.

[narciso]

We,, remember he was thrown under the bus, after the Abdulmutallab matter

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

TomM's Post Header = "You're Damn Right We Ordered The Code Red"

I believe I used that Code Red reference in a comment the Cheney Post yesterday. This Post header appropriating my comment with any attribution, whatever, is a gross violation of statutory and common law copyrights. Strong letter from my attorneys to follow. Hurrumph!

[Threadkiller]

Multiple threads help dilute my negative effect on Clarice's experience.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

'without'

[henry]

Stephanie, he has a few to go to catch up with Papi Ortiz. :(

[rich@gmu]

***
Thread a thon.

TM's opening more threads today than Obama's opening Kool packs.

Posted by: Stephanie***

Thinkin' alike. Can't catch up on them all.

[Cecil Turner]

Exactly. We're all suspected terrorists.

Seriously? We're talking about foreign leaders here: of course we spy on them. Why shouldn't we?

And on a related topic, I particularly enjoy the irony of people quoting Henry Stimson's famous "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail" without understanding the context. That quote originates from his shutting down the Cipher Bureau in 1929, seven years after it proved decisive in negotiating favorable terms for the Washington Naval Treaty (the kernel of the operation was then transferred to the Army Signal Corps, luckily for the US). Stimson was, of course, more reticent on the use of Magic (and similar programs) during his stint as Secretary of War during WWII.

[cathyf]

If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan.

You folks just don't understand how to parse that... Of course it's true, because of course no one would ever like a doctor or a plan not approved by Obama. Period.

[MarkO]

"Why shouldn't we?"

Applies to all of us, no? Are you doing something wrong? If not, why worry?

[jimmyk]

For fun I got on healthcare.gov. Has anyone else tried? It may depend on the state, but for NY it took me to the NYS site, which required me to set up an account (which I didn't do, of course). For other states (I tried Indiana for fun) it does seem to allow getting a price quote without putting in any personal information. It bombards you on every page with "Important — The prices here don't reflect the lower costs you may qualify for based on household size and income."

In any case, I didn't encounter any glitches, but of course I didn't venture very far into the morass.

[Jim Eagle]

jimmyk,

Isn't NY a state exchange instead of the "glitchy" Federal exchange?

It appears the issue on the Fed is the interface with the insurance company systems. If you go far enough and then try to enroll that is where you supposedly hit the wall.

[jimmyk]

I think that's right JiB, but I was only surprised that you (now?) can get price quotes for states that don't have their own exchanges, such as Indiana, without putting any personal info in. But you have to hit the "See plans now" button on the home page, not the "Apply online" button.

[Cecil Turner]

Applies to all of us, no?

Of course not. Spying on US citizens (by the US government) is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. To the extent the NSA revelations are a scandal, it's because of abuses/violations of the law. Spying on foreign leaders is not illegal, and is practically a duty, and only an embarrassment when the spies get caught. (Similarly, foreign spies spying on our leaders . . .)

[jimmyk]

I should add that when I hit the "Apply online" button, it took me to a place where I would have had to set up an account, but the site then hung up for longer than I was willing to wait (since I had no intention of creating an account).

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

ObummerCare.com put the price quote fix in last week. BUT the site asks you your age range 50-65(?) or 27-50(?) and base the rate quote off of 50 and 27 yos, i.e the youngest age in each cohort -- that is misleading for actual rates.

[Jim Eagle]

From Diplomad 2.0:

Spies Spy! Oh, The Horror

Calls out the champion hypocrites France, Germany and Mexico. Hell, put the whole gutless world in that group, like Brazil.

[James D.]

Just curious...

Since all this spying info is coming out thanks to Snowden; and since he was only able to get it because the people in charge of protecting the most secret programs our intel community runs built a system where a jackass with no real computer skills who'd only been on the job a couple of weeks had access to apparently every classified program the NSA was running, and free reign to copy all of it onto a flash drive...

Has anyone been fired over this? ANYONE at all? Officially reprimanded? Talked to in a sharp tone of voice? Made fun of in the NSA employee cafeteria?

Didn't think so.

[Extraneus]

Multiple threads help dilute my negative effect on Clarice's experience.

Why not just drop it, TK?

[Threadkiller]

Annie?

[Extraneus]

Nope.

[Threadkiller]

Really?

I would think the real Extraneus would include DoT in the suggestion.

[Extraneus]

He hasn't been tangling with you today, nor has Clarice. Yet you're still posting about them. Why not just give them the finger and move on?

[Some Guy]

grow up

[Extraneus]

Fed Balance Sheet Not Seen Returning to Normal Until at Least 2019

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Since this a OT thread, I think what sealed the decline of the country was when Jolly Rancher was considered acceptable Halloween fare.

[Threadkiller]

I was making a joke that I thought was a clever play off of Stephanie's comment.

Some guy, go fuck yourself.

[Some Guy]

Most everyone is tiring of this. Get over it, and stop lashing out anyone trying to help you.

Grow up.

[Extraneus]

Gee, does she stand to lose money over this?

Food Bank CEO Suggests Welfare Cuts May Spark Riots

The CEO of the largest food bank in America has suggested that planned cuts in food stamp benefits set to take effect on Friday could spark riots.

Image: Margarette Purvis (YouTube).

Margarette Purvis, the president and CEO of the Food Bank for New York City, told Salon.com that the expiration of stimulus funds, which will see the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program reduced by $5 billion dollars, will have an “immediate impact” and represent a recipe for civil unrest.

“If you look across the world, riots always begin typically the same way: when people cannot afford to eat food,” said Purvis, adding that families face the “daunting” prospect of losing a whole week’s worth of food every month.

[daddy]

Here's a bizarre and unexpected story. The Nation of Greenland (population 57,000) has decided to start mining and exporting Uranium.

At first look I did do a double-take
Learning Greenlanders want to mine yellowcake.
But Greenlanders ain't nuts
in their Leif Erickson huts,
Cause Yellowcake will 'green' for Greenlanders make.

[Dave (in MA)]

If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period.

You folks just don't understand how to parse that...

I guess I can't keep my doctor because I can't find him on Facebook, so I can't like him.

[Porchlight]

Cap'n,

When I was in seventh grade there was a Jolly Rancher craze in my middle school. Kids smuggled them in, traded, sold, ate them in class (these were the small wrapped brick-shaped ones, not the sticks, so they were easy to hide), etc. Rings were busted up.

My English teacher, Mr. K, said we could eat them in class if we gave him 5 cherry ones at the beginning of each class. There were 6 different red flavors: cherry, strawberry, raspberry, watermelon and cinnamon. I could tell them all apart by sight (this was before the wrappers told you what flavor it was). It was all great fun.

[Threadkiller]

Seiroisly, kiss off.

This is Maguire's site and he has never called me out as a distraction.

I am willing to accept that I have become a nuisance because I respect what Ext has to say.

I have zero respect for dickheads that insert "grow up" into conversations and nothing of substance.

Break time.

[Porchlight]

5 different red flavors. Yes, I can count and no, I am not still hung over from the Gourds' last show on Sunday night. I mean it.

[Threadkiller]

Seriously...

[Neo]

Most U.S. libertarians do not identify with Tea Party: survey

“There’s largely agreement on economic issues – the gap is in how libertarians approach social issues, ” said Robert P. Jones, CEO of PRRI, which conducts an annual “American Values Survey” on political and social issues.

.. excuse me. “social issues” ?
I’m not a Tea Party member, but I am a Tea Party sympathizer.
I don’t look to the Tea Party for anything except fiscal responsibility, an economic issue.

Does anybody know what social issues the Tea Party has a stand on ?

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

It must be age related, Porch.

[Porchlight]

Yes, that must be it, Cap'n.

I'm a big fan of the "old" candy though, the stuff the older folks in the neighborhood gave out and my friends always hated. Like Goldenberg's Peanut Chews, Bit O' Honey, Mary Janes, Necco wafers, etc.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Porch-- where did you grow up? those were Queens NY candy staples in the the 60s. I disliked all of them. PS: flavored wax fangs and harmonica-- ever see those?

[Stephanie]

Necco wafers... best reason to stop by a Cracker Barrel ever. All CBs carry lots of the old candies that you can't find anywhere else.

There is a website that sells the old stuff but you have to buy in such bulk to make the shipping worth it, you won't be able to waddle into work after eating it all.

[Jane-Rebel Alliance1]

Does anybody know what social issues the Tea Party has a stand on ?

Neo,

None officially, but you see it creep in. In an adjacent town to me they often talk pro-life stuff in the meetings, and I try and discourage them from doing it, only because it misrepresents the mission. They also start every meeting with a prayer - which I appreciate but fear it may have an adverse effect on some.

Officially tho, the tea party is not about social issues.

[daddy]

Don't trust her, Captain Hate. Porch ain't a Jolly Rancher freak.

I love those black- and orange-wrapped peanut butter taffy kisses - Mary Jane brand is the original and best. Damn, I love those things. But kids usually don't.

We ordered these for the kids this year. Yeah, they look gross (they haven't arrived yet so I can't confirm). But kids like gross.
Boo Licks

Posted by: Porchlight | October 29, 2008 at 02:38 PM

Way back on that Oct 29, 2008 Pre-election thread we were all sweating the Obama/McCain verdict, as I tallyed up the results of my JOM candy survey and discovered that that illegal alien P'UK was messing with our domestic voting results.

If anyone cares, here's that fun but tense thread.

TM was sick, but you can find everybody's candy preferences, and as is evident from my election tally on page 4, I had not yet learned how to do paragraphs. (Geez---pre-Apple Laptop is like the dark ages all over again.)

[daddy]

I think "Tea Party Social Issues" is about the same as when Charlie jackass Gibson asked Sarah Palin to define "The Bush Doctrine".

it doesn't exist as anything codified, yet by acting as if it does it allows the Media a wedge to try to divide and diminish us, and make us look stupid at their gotcha' questions.

If this guy is writing that there is some disconnect between Libertarians and Tea Party folks on Social Issues, let's make him tell us what exactly he means definitionally by "Libertarian Social Issues" and "Tea Party Social Issues," not us, and definitely don't let them get away with springing such questions on our candidates when they're sitting under the Kleig lights with the camera's running.

[Extraneus]

Does anybody know what social issues the Tea Party has a stand on ?

There's no such thing as the "Tea Party." That's why it's easy for tea party patriots - who showed up and frightened the left so terribly at rallies and town hall meetings in 2010 - to be marginalized, accused of racism, wacko-birdness, etc.

There are local "Tea Parties," such as the one in Sturbridge, but I would like to see a real Tea Party Caucus form within the Republican Party, logo and all. It would be easy to list a set of principles that most true conservatives could agree on; namely, the original intent of the Constitution: serious limits on the federal government.

That's a gargantuan social issue.

[Jim Eagle]

Talking about candy: A great place to find retro candy is Cracker Barrel. Even if you don't buy any you will suffer pangs of nostalgia.

At my hardware store in Southampton they always have some neat little gadgets or small tools on the counter where they ring up your purchases. This summer packs of Chuckles were very popular there:)

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Thanks for the archival link, daddy.

[James D.]

Ext, shouldn't that be "whacko-birdism"?

[Old Lurker]

Oh come on. Daddy could have told them this for nuthin.

LINCOLN, NE (CBS) – A new study has confirmed something women have been complaining about for years.

The research, out of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln and published in the Springer-published journal Sex Roles, essentially corroborates the belief that people tend to focus more on the breasts and figure of a woman when analyzing her appearance than they do on her face.

According to researchers, the study was the first ever to use eye-tracking technology to examine the glances of men when the “ogle” or “check out” women, whereas previous research had used only women’s self-reported experiences.

After monitoring how the gazes of 29 women and 36 men from a large Midwestern university reacted to images of the same group of female models with various body shapes, scientists concluded that participants focused more on the female’s chests and figure when asked to evaluate their appearance than they did on the women’s facial features.

Unsurprisingly, women with narrow waists, full breasts and larger hips – the classic hourglass figure – were rated more favorably than their less voluptuous counterparts, even when men were asked to assess a woman’s personality (rather than attractiveness) based on her appearance in the photos.

But perhaps what’s most interesting is that women also tended to objectify other females in the same way that men did. They, too, spent more time focusing on figure than face.

[maryrose]

daddy:
You made my day with the archival link. We were so young and naive 5 years ago!

[maryrose]

OL;
I have to admit that the psychologist in me always focuses on the face of any person I meet. The body shape is secondary or irrelevant.

[Old Lurker]

You are a spoilersport, maryrose, you really are!

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Am I the only person who thinks Cracker Barrel has the blandest food of any chain?

[Jim Eagle]

Are we having a Pumpkin carving contest this year at JOM? I will post pictures of our two that Frederick and I are going to do tomorrow evening after soccer practice. We challenge any of you to do better:)

[maryrose]

glasater: From other thread-When you've lost John Harwood.
I have to admit I was leaving the room and caught his comment and did a doubletake when they said who it was. He usually shows up really early on CNBC with Joe Kirnan and Andrew Ross Sorkin to parrot the Obama talking points of the day. This is a huge departure for him. The bloom is off the rose wrt Barry and I don't see him recovering from this latest set of lies anytime soon.I think the dems are sick of him too.
Hoyer actually admitted today that he and the dems knew when they passed this bill that people would lose their insurance. Yet this lie of omission enabled many dems to be re-elected in 2012. That election will go down in history as an utter travesty.One of the most important ones and it was based on lies and cheating and in targeting specific groups to disenfranchise them.

[cathyf]

Cracker Barrel = Salt

[Porchlight]

Porch-- where did you grow up? those were Queens NY candy staples in the the 60s. I disliked all of them. PS: flavored wax fangs and harmonica-- ever see those?

NK, I grew up right near you in Fairfield County! Monroe and Fairfield to be exact. (Well, I lived in Louisville until I was 9 but that's not where I got the candy I was talking about.)

Yes, we got wax fangs, lips, and harmonicas, and also those Nik-L-Nips little wax bottles of sweet liquid.

And Mary Jane orange and black peanut butter kisses - of which daddy here knows I'm a big fan. :)

[daddy]

The question I'd like to see now being put out there, instead of what are the Tea Party Social Issues, is to get every reporter we can on record to answer the following:

1) When Obama said "you can keep your Dr and your Health Care Plan, period", did you believe him?

If they say "Yes", then ask them to explain how they could have been so stupid when all the data was out there showing that it would not work.

If they say "No", then ask them why the hell they didn't come out and tell us that they knew he was lying at the time.

I want our Media to have to go on record and answer some of these uncomfortable questions, and I wish our side would play hardball and refuse to do any interviews with these guys until we do get some answers from these Media boobs. I would love to have the list of these guys with their answers, (Yes, No etc next to their names.)

That way, when they do ask snotty questions in future like "What is the Bush Doctrine", we can respond with something like, "So let me get this straight, Mister reporter, You're one of the guys who was stupid enough to believe Obama when he said you could keep your Dr and your Health Care Plan, period, so now ask me again what gotcha' question is it that you want me to answer?

It seems to me to be a way to diminish the media and we desperately need to do that. I'd love to see Priebus and the RNC pushing for something like this, but I'm not holding my breath.

This reminds me of a great line in Livy about Hannibal. He had destroyed the 2 Roman armies (80,000 Romans) in the battle at Cannae, but he didn't press on immediately and walk into Rome and take the City and win the War. His brother Hasdrubal sez to him, Hannibal, you know how to win a victory, but you don't know how to use a victory." When Hannibal finally went towards Rome his window to take the City had closed.

Well putting these MSM Reporters on record at a time when this whole "Keep Your Doctor" business is front and center of every American's mind is the time to go after these Media son's of bitches and not let that window of opportunity close.

[maryrose]

OL:
I don't mean to be a spoilsport but sometimes that's how I roll...Are you still missing Nantucket? If I lived there I don't know if I would ever leave.

[J. Fred Muggs]

Hello, J. Fred Muggs here, your favorite simian.

Here is my yuck-yuck for the day:

A man walks out to the street and catches a taxi just going by.
He gets into the taxi, and the cabbie says, "Perfect timing. You're just like Frank."

Passenger: "Who?"

Cabbie: "Frank Feldman... he's a guy who did everything right all the time. Like my coming along when you needed a cab, things happened like that to Frank Feldman every single time."

Passenger: "There are always a few clouds over everybody."

Cabbie: "Not Frank Feldman. He was a terrific athlete. He could have won the Grand-Slam at tennis. He could golf with the pros. He sang like an opera baritone, and danced like a Broadway star. And you should have heard him play the piano! He was an amazing guy."

Passenger: "Sounds like he was somebody really special."

Cabbie: "Oh hell there's more. He had a memory like a computer. He remembered everybody's birthday. He knew all about wine, which foods to order, and which fork to eat it with. And he could fix anything. Not like me, I change a fuse, and the whole street blacks out. But Frank Feldman, he could do everything right."

Passenger: "Wow, some guy then."

Cabbie: "He always knew the quickest way to go in traffic and avoid traffic jams. Not like me, I always seem to get stuck in them. But Frank, he never made mistakes, and he really knew how to treat a woman and make her feel good. He would never argue back, even if she was in the wrong; and his clothing was always immaculate, shoes highly polished too. He was the perfect man! I never knew him to make a mistake! No one could ever measure up to Frank Feldman."

Passenger: "An amazing fellow. How did you meet him?"

Cabbie: "Well... I never actually met Frank. He died, and I married his fucking wife."

[cathyf]

Off-topic -- a cathyf prediction: The "Secretary shall..." decree that plans bought on eHealth.com are eligible for subsidies. (Note, this is precisely as legal as giving subsidies to people buying on the federal exchange.)

[maryrose]

daddy:
Hear,Hear!

[maryrose]

cathyf:
You have been right all along about the great power invested in Cruella De Ville.

[Marlene]

Two summers ago,when Dad was feeling well,my brother and I drove Dad and Mom to Littleton,NH so he could visit his grandfather's house,which is still owned by a family member. Littleton has a candy store called Chutters, which bills itself as having the longest candy counter in the world.112 feet of glass jars filled with candy. Great fun,I left with a bag full of bit o' honey.

[Sandy Daze]

As much as the Tea Party was instigated with Santelli's cri de coeur, it has been attacked by both the Dems and Repubs as a threat to their continued feeding at the trough.

There are many examples, but two will suffice, the IRS (plus multiple agency) investigations of Tea Party aligned persons (see, e.g.: Engelbrecht, Catherine) and recall the Speaker's re-assignment of Tea Party representatives OUT of committee chairmanship positions. Knocks on the door at night (or during the day) for partisan reasons (see Gibson Guitar) have had a chilling effect on the political discourse, from conservatives who by definition, tend to be law-abiding...

As to social issues, I am reminded of John Adams,

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Today it is somehow heresay to even suggest opposition to abortion in any form; to do so is somehow akin to denying the very will of God, (!), meanwhile the holocaust of Americans continues, with some 50 MILLION dead in the last forty years. Safe, Legal, Rare--hardly. But beyond abortion, there are a host of social issues which, viewed narrowly, are yes--social--but with an eye to economic security, are just as important as the deficit, balance of trade, or inflation (just to name a few). Considering social issues as separate and apart from economic affairs of the REPUBLIC is naive, in my view, and plays to the left's strength. Social and fiscal issues are inextricably connected, two sides of the same coin.

Defining frothing right-wing conservatism as anything to the right of the latest democrat position is simply wrong. First principles apply.
~~
Well, it may be too late in any case. Split the country into three (not Igor Panarin's four or six or whatever he is saying today) make it Alantica/Oceana, Pacifica and the residual America down the center.

Oh, and, by the way:

Keep your powder dry.

Remember, sight alignment and trigger squeeze.

Vires et Honestas.

[Extraneus]

Top Dem admits ObamaCare could have been 'more precise' about people losing health plans

A top Democratic official conceded Tuesday that the health care overhaul should have been "more precise" in acknowledging the possibility that some Americans would lose their current insurance plans -- even as the White House defended its past statements on the law.

The admission from House Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer comes after a 2010 document emerged that predicted millions might be dropped by their providers.

"More precise." I like that euphemism for "not quite as easily pinned down for lying."

[Extraneus]

Lol J. Fred.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

From that old thread, I had the JEF pretty well summed up. Then there's McCain...

[Jim Eagle]

It is easier to convince people of a lie than it is for them to believe a truth.

This is the base of every con ever foisted on any individual, group or even country.

We are seeing this in real time in the digital age unlike the slow motion version of Hitler and Stalin.

[daddy]

OK,

Off to be treated like I deserve. Was able to hustle via Taxi to a Barnes and Noble this morning and get a copy of Patrick O'brian's" Treason's Harbor", so I'm back in business again and the beverage syllabus stays in place. But what about the Cognac! When do you do the Cognac? How did I leave that loose hair lying out there?

Gad, this $18,134 First Class flight is killing me. If only they could have broken it down into 3 separate 4 hour flights on different days, each totaling $6,000.00 or so, then I could have experimented with my syllabus and gotten it right. But when you've only got 1 shot...that's a lot of pressure.

Reminds me of that old Calvin and Hobbes cartoon, where Calvin and the Tiger are having a ball but Calvin is slightly bummed, and the Tiger asks "Aren't you having fun?", and Calvin replies "Yeah, but I'm not certain I'm having the maximum possible amount of fun."

Cheers!

[Extraneus]

This is interesting.

Cybersecurity expert after finding an easy way to hack HealthCare.Gov: “This seems really sloppy”

The glitch was discovered last week by Ben Simo, a software tester in Arizona. Simo found that gaining access to people’s accounts was frighteningly simple. You could have:

-guessed an existing user name, and the website would have confirmed it exists.
-claimed you forgot your password, and the site would have reset it.
-viewed the site’s unencrypted source code in any browser to find the password reset code.
-plugged in the user name and reset code, and the website would have displayed a person’s three security questions (your oldest niece’s first name, name of favorite pet, date of wedding anniversary, etc.).
-answered the security questions wrong, and the website would have spit out the account owner’s email address — again, unencrypted. …

“This seems really sloppy,” Simo said. “Either the developers were incompetent and did not know how to do the basic things to protect user information, or the development was so fractured that the individuals building the system didn’t understand how they fit into the bigger picture.” …

People should learn about this before they fix it.

[maryrose]

Ext:
At the hearing with the CGI and CMS people last week the repubs were screaming about security{see Blackburn} while the dems {see DeGette were disputing it{seePallone} and his monkey court comment
I definitely will not share any info at the site because it is not secure.

[henry]

Ext, that is unbelievably bad! I was worried about lack of security behind the web page-- unrestricted access to all the fed databases that get checked. If the front door is that bad, they gave no thought at all to securing the internals. Guess (or steal) an SSN and all tax & health data is yours, including your bank routing info if you file taxes electronically.

[pagar--]

" “Either the developers were incompetent and did not know how to do the basic things to protect user information,"

or they celebrated Christmas with the Obamas or both.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/cgi-federal-executive-spent-christmas-with-the-obamas/

[rse]

henry-

I think I have mentioned that KR has a house in Fla. He was invited to a holiday party and nicely RSVP'd he could not make it. Hubby who is IP sort contacted HOA to tell them they were giving out enough info that an experienced IP person could back track into the confidential WH address.

Between what is intentional on healthcare. gov and what just has to do with dealing with amateurs on a big money spree, this is so dangerous.

Should we buy stock in that company Rush touts for security of info?

[Extraneus]

VIDEOS — Here Are Four Times, During the 2012 Election Year, When Obama Promised that If You Like Your Healthcare, You Can Keep It

Liar.

The left spent years accusing Bush of "lying" about something he was told by the CIA, Clinton, Kennedy, Kerry, etc., which he obviously thought was true, and probably was! Yet here we have something that Obama knew to be false, yet went out and repeatedly told to Americans in order to get the bill passed. An outright lie, straight up.

Can we have some prominent Republicans call Obama out for what he did to the American people and the greatest health care system the world has ever known?

Come on, wimps. Say it.

[Some Guy]

Christmas with the Obamas

Which one of Dante's circles would that be?

[narciso]

ecil, however the fact the the Tsarnaev's seemed to slip through while they were watching Merkel & Perez Nieto. They had General McGoo out there today.

Libertarians seem more focused on pot and abortion then other issues, the circuses of that Roman phrase

[jimmyk]

"More precise." I like that euphemism for "not quite as easily pinned down for lying."

Ha, there's a #narrowlyuntrue tag on twitter going around, as in

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 5h

Drink Drano, it's delicious! #narrowlyuntrue

[rse]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/10/our-churchill.php

I like that story.

When Red was 10 and we did the Churchill War Rooms, she and the Diva were the only children and she got interviewed on British radio explaining what children could get out of the exhibit.

Fun memory for both of us of her childhood.

I also remember the tour with headsets of Stonehenge and the Diva, 7, announced she thought her dad would like being there and off she went on her self guided tour so she could tell him about it when she got home.

Traveling with children and grandchildren to places where they learn history is a great antidote to all the bad ideas coming at us from every direction.

[maryrose]

narciso:
Agreed! What good is surveillance if they miss the obvious terrorism plots. They even had a warning about the one brother. NSA is the new distraction from the O-care trainwreck. Keep shouting that it is not secure and identity theft will be rampant. LIV's can understand that fact.

[henry]

rse, possibly on the stock buy. Madness of crowds etc. the scary part is if they left the door that wide open, some day soon a massive number of bank accounts will be emptied overnight. The gov db's supporting enrollment and subsidies are an identity thief nirvana. Think big data, one request, millions of IDs and bank accounts in seconds. Send a flood of ACH pull transactions and the largest bank theft ever in a few key strokes. It is not clear to me that ID protection services can help -- or that any banks could trace where the money went. I'm lucky, ID thieves hit me last month. No fund movement without my knowledge / approval. A PITA, but well timed.

[maryrose]

rse: We have taken our two children to many historical places and battlefields. My son used to re-enact different civil war battles for fun.

[narciso]

Rush was apoplectic yesterday, a little less today,how many were not aware even putatively on our side

[Clarice]

Herb Meyers had a brilliant piece in AT yesterday about the difference between the ability to collect intel and judgment about what you collect and how to use it. He argued quite correctly that with an ally like Merkel who is so level headed there is absolutely no good reason to have listened in on her private conversations.
Like me, he thinks this was a boneheaded move by the same jerks who messed up the Tsarnaev intel.

[narciso]

I took a look at the Ehealth quotes, should have waited till Halloween.

[Extraneus]

I can't find that bit about the father sobbing uncontrollably over what the bad people are doing to the country.

"How could Obama lie to us and get our health insurance cancelled, Daddy?"

"I don't know, pumpkin. I just don't know."

I tried to hold it in, but I just couldn't. I couldn't explain how he could do this to us. I just fell into my little daughter's arms and broke down.

"Waaaaah."

[Beasts of England]

Alright, gonna report on my birthday bounty. My Mom and brother got me a bottle of 18 year old Macallan and a magnum of 2003 Ch. Giscours from my Dad's cellar; a buddy made me some boiled peanuts; another brought me a half gallon of Jackson County's finest whiskey (he made it himself); my buddy from Atlanta Rhythm Section just played an acoustic version of 'Walk on the Wild Side' for me; and my older daughter is taking me, in 30 minutes, to dinner at the city's finest restaurant. I am blessed...

[Threadkiller]

Happy Birthday Beasts!

[Stephanie on kindle armchair QB flea flicker enthusiast]

Happy birthday beasts!

[Danube on iPad]

Cathyf, it's already been done, although I think it was the IRS. Whoever it was issued a reg that said something like "'exchange operated by a state' shall mean 'exchange operated by a state or the feds.'" Remember Alice in Wonderland: "Words mean what I say they mean."

This lying sack of shit has even lost Jonathan Chait.

I always hated Necco wafers. Worst candy ever produced.

[narciso]

I think the Meyer piece figured into my thinking, honestly it's a wonder the folks that seem to be being integrated into natl security is a little disturbing

[rse]

How much fun Beasts, enjoy.

maryrose-

My GF had a place that backed up to P'tree Creek. You could still see the trenches in the 60s and he recovered mortars and cannon balls. Making history real has a turbocharging effect that defuses all the theories of how the world might be.

Very good in an all theory all the time public sector mode.

[Clarice]

H.B. Beasts.
DoT, I hate NECCO wafers, too, but once got a govt grant for our organization by providing them to the grantor who loved them.

I hope this is a rounding error or something:http://rare.us/story/your-share-of-the-national-debt-is-now-1-1-million/

[centralcal]

Trying to figure out which thread to read and catch up on, I finally settled on this one. Just in time to wish Beasts a very happy birthday and a great dinner tonight!

daddy's look back to the way we were in 2008 was fun. Oddly, there was almost as much discussion of arugula as there was of Halloween candy!

maryrose, did you comment under another name then?

[hit and run]

Ext - the CheChe bit you mentioned is on a blog post that one of the commenters here almost never posts on anymore.

[narciso]

Hsppy birthday, beasts, chaitred gives me gas as does Dan amira

[Jane-Rebel Alliance1]

According to Michael Graham 15 of the 40 MA state senators are prepared to vote for single payer in MA and put us all on Medicare. Holy cow.

Happy Birthday Beasts!

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Happy Birthday Beasts.