Traditional Friday Afternoon Open Thread

Time management eludes me again.

Comments

[Theo]

First!!

[maryrose]

Second!
Hit how does the previous thread hold up against the longest ones?
How did Halloween go at your house?

[narciso]

Porch beat me to it;

ttp://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/court-battles/188983-appeals-court-rules-against-birth-control-mandate

[pagaryy]

If you haven't read the latest Obama regime private job killing manifesto rse has it up on the last thread at 04:01 PM. My bet is that it will destroy more private jobs in the USA than Obamacare.

[narciso]

Rush was pointing out this piece,

http://minx.cc/?post=344661

He wrote the first of Vanity Fair's three slams at the Huntress.

[narciso]

I'm speaking of Perdum, Mr. Dee Dee Myers.

[Danube on iPad]

Re-posting this from the tail end of the last thread:

Wehner sounds almost - but not quite - as happy about all this as I am. The news of new pratfall makes me shiver with something close to ecstasy. Surely the thought must slowly be entering Mr. Obama's mind that the worst of all possible fates may well await him: becoming a worldwide laughingstock.

Shiver shiver...

[Danube on iPad]

Cavuto jus showed a montage of Dems parrotting Obama's lie verbatim. Harry Reid, Patty Murray, Dick Durbin ("guaranteed")....

I am dreaming of the ads Republicans can run next Fall.

[Ignatz]

I find this HotAir portrait of Barry as a young duck quite enjoyable;

[Old Lurker]

And Pagar my comment to rse's 4:01 post was to ask why at the end it makes Homeland Security a co-chair of the damn thing.

[pagaryy]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/11/01/executive-order-preparing-united-states-impacts-climate-change

Can anyone explain to me what the last sentence in the above linked executive order means.

"(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person."

[Neo]

Sadly, Public Enemy bombed, according to Bookscan numbers, which track book sales through traditional bookstores and Amazon.com. From October 6 through October 20, [Obama terrorist neighbor Bill] Ayers sold a grand total of 467 copies of his book. By contrast, Mark Levin’s Ameritopia sold 56,756 copies in its debut week in 2012.

[Jane-Rebel Alliance1]

Surely the thought must slowly be entering Mr. Obama's mind that the worst of all possible fates may well await him: becoming a worldwide laughingstock.

I doubt it. I'm not sure he is capable of that thought.

[jimmyk]

the worst of all possible fates may well await him: becoming a worldwide laughingstock.

Again, I hate to be the gloomy Gus here, but we've had this hope before too many times. The left will not give up easily, nor does it have a sense of humor.

[pagaryy]

Old Lurker, I have no clue why Homeland Security gets a co-chair.

[Granddaddy]

"Sadly, Public Enemy bombed,"

'Steal this Book' did pretty well as to circulation; not so well on sales.

Abbie Hoffman didn't have the killer instincts of y'all.

[Thomas Collins]

Pagar, it means the EPA can stop you from building a deck if EPA determines the deck will unduly increase carbon emissions, but Algore can't obtain an injunction ordering the Feds to publish regs stopping deck building.

[Jim Eagle]

Is it possible that 23 year old Paul Cianci, from Pennsville, NJ is the LAX shooter?

That is what I am hearing.

/not Brian Ross

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Pagar-- that's statutory language reserving (not waiving) sovereign immunity relating to the action undertaken.

[Thomas Collins]

Plus, it means none of us can sue to stop 404 from jetting to any golf course.

[Jim Eagle]

What MSM outlet will be the first to note that Paul Ciancia is a Tea Party member or a NRA lifetime member or part of the local Republican club?

[GMax]

Report I read said same name but listed him as Los Angeles resident. Anthony was middle name listed.

[Army of Davids]

jobs report out next Friday

worth remembering (and repeating over and over again)

headwinds to employers' main street job creation in ObamaCare

- new regulatory compliance costs
- new taxes (w/ more to come in 2014)
- mandates
- higher health insurance costs (more for young people)
- implicit uncertainty/complexity

[Jim Eagle]

juan Williams, Paid Spokesman.

[maryrose]

Army of Davids:
If the jobs report is bad- excuse will be shutdown.
If jobs report is good- they are lying about it again
If unemployment number is below7.2 they are making--hit up.

[Frau Schutzkeller]

"Public Enemy bombed"
Neo, appropriate don't you think?

[jimmyk]

AP says NJ. We know how this plays out. If he's a lefty, he's mentally ill and deranged, and we need more gun control. If he has anything that can link him to the military or the Repub party, it's the result of an atmosphere of hate stirred up by the Tea Party. And we need more gun control.

[Jim Eagle]

Frederick just pointed out to me that there is a Pokemon character named "Abomasnow":

Known for snow jobs.

[narciso]

looks a little like Zoidberg the lobster doctor on Futurama;

http://mcnorman.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/friends-who-made-the-mess-will-fix-the-mess/

[peter]

So true, jimmyk. The Demstream media already has both narratives saved in their random access memory

[Miss Marple]

That cupcake store listing wasn't a mistake, according to government officials:

"Upstate Assemblyman Kieran Michael Lalor said the Health Department’s explanation of the bizarre situation just raises more questions.

“Who are the actual navigators? Why would they meet with someone to discuss health insurance at a nail spa or a taxi garage?” he asked.

“Does that make sense to anyone? We need a detailed explanation of what is going on. Where is the accountability for this spending? Why did it take three days get a wacky explanation?”

http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obamacare-handing-out-cupcake-store-number-not-a-mistake/

[Jim Eagle]

From Jonah Goldberg's email newsletter:

Making God Giggle

Anyway, the point is that, sure, Obama has an agenda he doesn’t lay bare for all to see. He couches his ulterior motives in platitudes and sound bites. Pretty much every politician does that. But most of his “hidden” motives aren’t in fact very well hidden. He’s personally further to the left than politics will let him be. He believes in economic redistribution. He thinks America’s superpower status has a lot of downsides. He thinks the government should have more control and influence over peoples’ lives. Etc.

These are not shocking revelations. In fact they’re not even revelations at all if you’ve been paying the slightest bit of attention.

But even if he has far more sinister motives, even if he were a crypto-Muslim Stalinist hell bent on liquidating the rich and forcing the rest of us to have an Islamist gay wedding paid for by the government so long as both grooms got maternity care, he’d still have to operate in the real world. And, among the core insights of conservatism is the simple fact that reality is awfully complicated.

It’s not ridiculous to have a plan. I myself plan to nap this afternoon and I’m reasonably confident I’ll pull it off (“It’s just crazy enough to work!” -- The Couch). But at the heart of conservatism is a healthy skepticism about the technocratic romanticism that says people are like cogs for the smart set to arrange. Whether it’s Edmund Burke talking about the variety and mystery of human existence or Friedrich Hayek explaining the knowledge problem or your grandmother telling you that God laughs at those who plan, the point is the same. Forces great and small outside your control get a vote in how your life turns out and they cannot be reliably brought to heel.

Whatever Obama’s will, the mere application of it to the machinery of the state in no way guarantees he will see it realized. Lenin was very smart and yet he continually failed to join the crooked timbers of humanity into the right angles he so admired. And while Stalin wasn’t as bright as Lenin, he had the advantage of absolute and total power over his country (which is a nice thing to have, though a terrible thing to give anyone (but me!)). And yet the bologna of humanity rejected the grinder of Communism.

In North Korea three generations of dictators have dedicated themselves to making their country a technologically advanced and prosperous superpower. And yet, in Pyongyang, they would kill for a website that worked as well as Healthcare.gov (or, in fairness, for a bowl of rice).

Mao killed tens of millions of his own people to “prove” that collectivization works and capitalism doesn’t. How’d that work out? Well, today you can buy a great Mao T-shirt at one of Walmart’s many downtown Beijing locations.

I’m not comparing Obama to Stalin, Lenin, or Mao (people on the right do way too much of that). I’m simply making the point that even in countries where they have a comply-or-die system, designed to make it as easy as possible to impose one man’s will on a society, wholesale planning is still impossible folly. Even if Obama were the polymathic, superwonk, light-bringing übermensch wunderkind badass he seems to think he is, it’s very, very unlikely he’d succeed in fulfilling crazy outside-of-the-box schemes, because our entire system is set up to thwart and stymie people with crazy outside-of-the-box schemes. Indeed, it’s stymied better men than Obama.

That’s because it’s not just Obama who isn’t smart enough to plot out every move and counter move in a 300 million piece 3-D chessboard where the pieces can move themselves, form coalitions, and act on both rational interests and irrational desires while also interacting with the billions of pieces on other boards.

No one is that smart, except God -- and He’s too busy laughing.

[Porchlight]

New poll has McAuliffe only +2:

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/01/poll-mcauliffe-only-2-in-virginia/

How mad are we at the RNC right now?

I just hope people open their wallets for the candidates next year, if they don't donate to the RNC.

[Porchlight]

That NY Post story is insane, Miss Marple. I don't know how the Obamacare defenders even begin to spin it.

[Granddaddy]

"Anyway, the point is that, sure,.."

Oh, Jonah. That's a whale of prose deserving to be beached.

Shear genius.

[Extraneus]

I haven't given in a while, but I'm thinking of giving to the SCF.

War: NRSC blacklists ad firm because it helps Senate Conservatives Fund target Republicans

[Sue]

Charlie Crist has filed to run for governor of Florida as a democrat.

[Miss Marple]

Porchlight, they have hired community organizers with zero professional experience to run this thinkg, and no doubt given them large sums of cash.

Community organizers LaTisha Jones or Chad Nitwit don't want to spend any of that cash on office rental. And since they mooch their Wifi time from Starbucks or McDonald's, they see no reason why this isn't appropriate.

So I guess we will get people signing up for Obamacare (or THINKING they are signing up for it) while they are getting a pedicure.

It all makes perfect sense in Obamaworld.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Emerson College? in Boston?-- a fine Div III soccer team, but what do they know about Va. statewide elections? I would pitch this report. I'll be relieved if KenC loses by single digits.

[narciso]

As william goldman famously put it. no one knows nothing in Hollywood, but it's not limited to there.

[Porchlight]

Quinnipiac had McAuliffe +4 yesterday, NK. What does a CT university know about VA statewide elections? Yet they are a reputable polling firm.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

I agree Miss M-- Navigator pay is just swag for ACORN types in the Hood. Nothing more. It's a Pigford-type payment, with REALLY BIG numbers.

[Porchlight]

We all know the navigators are just ACORN/OFA types paid to sign people up and register them to vote while they're at it. Or who knows, maybe the fraud is deeper somehow and they're going to create fake signups and funnel subsidy money that way.

But I am genuinely interested in how this plays to voters and how Dems would try to spin it.

[narciso]

I know the source, but it's not far from our original thinking;

http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/1/edward-snowden-escalated-cyber-war.html

[Miss Marple]

Well, time for me to get ready for church. It's All Saints Day today so I need to hustle to mass.

I will check in later this evening.

[Extraneus]

Charlie Crist has filed to run for governor of Florida as a democrat.

Has the Tea Party ever endorsed someone who ended up running as a Democrat?

(Just kidding. There's no such thing as the "Tea Party.")

How about the SCF?

[Porchlight]

More on VA gov:

Scott Walker, Marco Rubio and Ron Paul will campaign with Ken Cuccinelli in the final days of the Virginia governor’s race, sources told POLITICO.

The Wisconsin governor will spend Saturday with the Republican candidate for governor in Spotsylvania and Prince William counties.

The Florida senator has committed to appear Monday, on the eve of the election, in Warrenton and Culpeper.

The former Texas congressman will speak at a rally that evening in Richmond.

That's a lot more GOP support than Lonegan got.

[Porchlight]

Happy All Saints', Miss Marple. I wanted to go to church but got too busy at work.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Ole Maurice 'Mickey' Carroll at Quinnipac has good data on Mass, Ct, RI, NYC/NYS/NJ elections, but I don't believe he has any special insight into any other statewide election. But maurice Could tell you where Drunken Dan Malloy manufactured the Bridgeport votes in 2010. Foley wasn't interested in pushing that info into court though.

[Agenda 21]

Hmm. He couldn't do this on the East Coast? Oh, wait, Jerry Brown hasn't signed the assault-weapon ban into law yet. Funny thing is, no news reader has renewed the plea 'The Banshee screams for Buffalo Meat', and other frightening tales from the Crypt.

[Extraneus]

The Republican case against Virginia's Ken Cuccinelli

OCALA, Fla., November 1, 2013 — Ken Cuccinelli wants to be the governor of Virginia much in the same way that Bill de Blasio wants to be the mayor of New York.

Both are textbook cases of ideological zealotry; young radicals who never outgrew their crusades. While de Blasio was a Sandinista — literally — Cuccinelli took up with the fundamentalist Christian-dominated religious right.

The what?

This is from some nerd at ... the Washington Times.

I think I'll give to Cuccinelli instead for now.

[Extraneus]

Fortunately, there is a third choice for Commonwealth voters: Robert Sarvis, a libertarian who merges economic progress with social tolerance. He has been polling almost unbelievably high for a third party candidate, which serves as a testament to widespread disgust with Cuccinelli and McAuliffe.

Virginia Republicans should support Sarvis not only because of Cuccinelli’s radicalism, but also because of his followers’ influence on GOP politics.

WTF?

[Jim Eagle]

NK,

I know a little about VA and if NoVa shows up en blanc then its McAwful. But if they don't and the south of VA does show up its Ken C. Simple as simple can be.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

The Cotto nerd? earlier we were discussing the relative merits of modern Libertarianism? This cretin is another reason I'm not one.

[narciso]

dangerous kulak I mean counterrevolutionary;

http://web.archive.org/web/20071026151924/www.cuccinelli.com/priorities.shtml

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

JiB-- OL had a different Va. 'simple as can be'. far fewer coal miners and military than 20 years ago, and massively more federal/state/teachers workers in NoVa. I would add huge USA migration from Blue states and Third World immigration into Faifax and Loudon counties during the past 15 years.

[narciso]

Cotto's getting slattered in the comment section,

[narciso]

Rush made an interesting argument;

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/11/01/was_the_system_really_broken_if_most_people_liked_what_they_had?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RushLimbaugh-AllContent+%28The+Rush+Limbaugh+Show+-+All+Content%29

[Jim Eagle]

NK,

So in 4 years Va changed that dramatically? BS. NoVa is all mostly gov employees or teat suckers but not the rest. Who do you think elected McDonnel and Cuccinelli to begin with?

It is a GOTV effort period. Believe me.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

That old KenC state senator re-election statement-- I really like the guy, seems like a very honest and decent man.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

JiB -- we'll find out in 4 days. I just have really bad vibes about the Va. electorate. PS-- McDonnel was pefect for the 2010 electorate. 'Non threatening' -- to those lady voters-- conservative in a Purple State. Ken C has been been a very conservative AG-- ObummerCare litigant-- and that let the McAwful lie machine pigeon hole him with the ladies. We'll see tuesday.

[Extraneus]

Food Stamp Cuts Affect 1 in 7 Americans

1 in 7 "Americans" are fed by the government.

(Just kidding. I meant "fed by the rest of us, who are also feeding our own families, paying for the national defense, social security, etc.")

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

... and paying the interest on the DEBT.

[Danube on iPad]

"...but we've had this hope before too many times"

I can't think of any prior instance in which his manifest incompetence so directly and adversely affected millions of people. And the MSM is treating this far didderently from Benghazi, the IRS and other scandals.

[Ignatz]

--earlier we were discussing the relative merits of modern Libertarianism?--

I was discussing my small "l" libertarianism. I'm not sure what you were discussing.

[Agenda 21]

Little or no traction from Boston, Newtown or Aurora.

What can we do to really scare the cat-piss out of everyone and make gunz Public Enemy #1.

[Ignatz]

I have severe disagreements with Ron Paul on several subjects, but who has been the better Republican regarding Cuccinelli, the RNC, the clowns who have not lifted a finger to help Cuccinelli, or refuse to campaign for him, or Paul?

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Ig-- the nice thing you said about me earlier was greatly appreciated. The problem with quick comments is that terms that should be defined get very murky. I find your little 'l' value system very admirable. The big L political movement in this country, that doesn't impress me. See Cotto and the goofball running in Va.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Paul? I think here's there to repudiate the goofball big 'L' libertarian who's running to minimize the lost votes to Ken C.

[narciso]

Well the RNC institutionally is much like the scorpion, we know they are going to sting, we just don't know when?

[Ignatz]

I think he is too and I find that pretty admirable for a guy who most Republicans wished would just go away and croak.
More admirable than all the Reps who wrote Cuccinelli off.

[Extraneus]

I don't believe Cotto is a big "L" unless that stands for Liberal for McAuliff, when even Ron Paul is campaigning for Cuccinelli.

[Frau Schutzkeller]

I thought "weird" was Al Yankovic's schtick.

Mr. Warren Wilhelm, aka DeBlasio aka DeBlasio-Wilhelm, is a troubled dingbat and you don't need to have stayed in a Holiday Express to know that.

"De Blasio’s name changes did not become known in New York political circles until long after he emerged on the city's civic stage. Even now, most New Yorkers do not know he has had three different legal names."

Siblings did not give up the Wilhelm name.

btw - Father Wilhelm had cancer when he committed suicide.

[Army of Davids]

True Maryrose...shut down blame on payroll unemployment next Friday

guess here is we get another "meh" report of 135K or so

best to keep the focus on the under 35 Labor Force Participation Rate and the structural headwinds (number one being ObamaCare) to hiring that have damaged the future for so many young people.

The FOMC beige book regional reports made numerous mentions of ObamaCare. More will come in the year ahead.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Ron Paul marches to his own drum. He' s doing the right thing, but it's clear he's not happy with this character running as big L in Va.

[Ignatz]

-The big L political movement in this country, that doesn't impress me.--

It's a joke, which is why it is miniscule. They have a suicidal foreign policy and seem to be mostly made up of stoners who want cheaper drugs and/or rigid, hide-bound, impractical ideologues who seem to prefer laboring in obscurity while remaining pure and unblemished by reality.

I am a Madisonian libertarian. Apparently I am on the ESL.

[Jane-Rebel Alliance1]

Both are textbook cases of ideological zealotry; young radicals who never outgrew their crusades.

And how would he characterize Terry McCauliffe?

A textbook case of a crook, perhaps?

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

Interesting about his father's cancer, I don't remember Warren mentionng that. warren Wilhelm is nasty collectivist. My liberal colleagues and I will get it good and hard. I like saying 'toldya so..' as much as any stubborn Greek, but this....

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

I am a Madisonian conservative and Federalist. I'd love to discuss details of that label.

[Danube on iPad]

Agence France-Press:

"Washington - As his political woes mount, Barack Obama risks squandering two assets no president can do without -- public trust and the aura of a man firmly in charge. Flaps over the implementation of his signature health law and National Security Agency snooping have done more than dump Obama´s approval ratings to new lows. They call into question the president´s governing style and personal candor at a time when his political window to revive a stalled second term agenda is fast closing."

[AliceH]

--McDonnel was pefect for the 2010 electorate.--

But he was elected Nov 3, 2009.

[Extraneus]

"Personal candor"? They can't bring themselves to say "honesty"? This mincing of words must be why French used to be the language of diplomacy.

[narciso]

the question of course, is how 'low can they go

http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/cnn-falls-to-lowest-primetime-in-over-a-year-foxs-megyn-kelly-returns-to-cable-news-ratings-top-spot/

[Agenda 21]

" I'd love to discuss details of that label."

Is that federa]ist with a small 'f;? Madison and Jefferson seemed to be at odds with Federalists over the Alien and Sedition Act.

[narciso]

How to characterize McGoniff, poisonous weasel;

http://therightscoop.com/cnns-jeffrey-toobin-proves-why-he-is-a-partisan-hack-who-only-wants-to-protect-hillary-clinton/

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

federalist = federalism supporter.

and yes 2013-4 = 2009.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

JimmyK-- check the local news. The 2nd circuit today granted the city's motion for a stay of Scheidelin's Stop and Frisk decision AND REMOVED her from the case, saying she had created public question of impartiality by steering the case to herself. Removing her is a big deal-- they basically called her corrupt. It matters not, because deBlasio will destroy stop and frisk, and the judge 'randomly' appointed to replace her, is an Obummer Leftwing appointee who's worse than Scheidelin.

[narciso]

We see the Post down here, the Daily News is not fit for a pup's gentle paws, as a general rule, the whole stop frisk is a CCR project, as if directed by Zombie Kunstler himself,

[MarkO]

Mr. Toobin reputing the argument we need more facts about Bengazi: "We don't know all the facts about the Civil War."

This is from a Harvard Law Review editor, an associate at Cravath and the father of Greenfield’s child. He’s quite something.

[NK(tryin'2.0)]

'quite something' = a lousy excuse for a human being.

[narciso]

Ok all the creepy stuff was supposed to be yesterday;

http://twitchy.com/2013/11/01/creepy-ofa-encourages-parents-to-have-the-talk-with-their-children-this-holiday/

[Extraneus]

Hey daddy, your man Kudlow seems to have woken up.

Liberal entitlement-state dream is crumbling

Well, not exactly.

As for the grandfathering lie, Obama's HHS staffers were the saboteurs. They undoubtedly acted with full knowledge of what they were doing, and thus trapped the president in three years of falsehoods that were essential to selling Obamacare.

The saboteurs trapped the poor president?

[Extraneus]

(Just kidding again. I know daddy knows Kudlow is a doofus.)

[narciso]

So as per Daddy's recommendation, I'm taking a shot at Treason's Harbour, one of the later of the Aubrey series,

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Toobin acts just as stupid as when he was covering for Rodham's predator husband. Is Sully only there to answer OB/GYN questions or just completely out of it?

[Extraneus]

'Healthy Ho's Party': ObamaCare Registration Drive For Prostitutes

In the all-cash, off-the-books sex industry, workers can be particularly high risk and insurance is often out of reach. Many sex workers -- a broad term that can refer to a number of services, including sexual massage, prostitution, and escort and dominatrix work -- consider themselves self-employed entrepreneurs who can't afford to purchase healthcare. But that could all change with the Affordable Care Act.

And why shouldn't we subsidize these great Americans?

[Agenda 21]

"And why shouldn't we subsidize these great Americans?"

As members of the World's Oldest Profession might say, why do you hate small businesses?

[hrtshpdbox]

I suppose it's just one of those questions with no possible satisfactory answer, but if there were memos around outlining how Obama's "you won't have to change your coverage" pledge was patently false, why couldn't Romney find and exploit them in last year's campaign?

[Extraneus]

Because Romney was afraid of the whole health care issue?

Just reaching here.

[MarkO]

Romney was the worst possible candidate to exploit Obamacare. Repeal and replace was not a clarion call.

Replace? Why? We are confirming that there never was a health care crisis. Let's have that "honest" debate.