The Times reports on the latest Saturday ObamaCare bad news:
Enrollment Errors Cut, Officials Say; Fixes Are Overstated, Insurers Report
By Robert Pear
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration said Saturday that it had reduced the error rate in enrollment data sent to insurance companies under the new health care law, even as insurers said that files they received from the government in the last few days were riddled with mistakes.
Trouble in paradise! And lest the significance elude you (buying insurance is complicated, after all), the Times breaks it down:
The quality of the data is important; it could affect the ability of people to get medical care and prescription drugs when they go to doctors’ offices and pharmacies starting next month.
Really? You mean doctors and pharamcists and insurers actually need that info for billing purposes? What happened to exhortations to rely on the kindness of strangers?
MAybe an illustrative example would have helped First Reader grasp this. If I subscribe to the Times by way of their website but they don't communicate my home address correctly to the delivery team, the paper will end up in my neighbor's driveway and eventually find its way to their puppy rather than my parakeet, so where is the value added, hmm?
Well, Obama's staff won't be giving him the bad news, but maybe he will notice this tidbit in the Times.
Schadenfreude continues, I see.
Posted by: DrJ | December 14, 2013 at 06:47 PM
'I see' How is it schaden..? Try catching up with the strategy. He compromised inordinately with ACA, when the true goal was single-payer. He extended the olive branch and you responded according to habit which was easily preordained. The complexity of ACA was the dead-fall, and you impaled yourself on the particulars. Too bad you are blinded to the stategery.
Medicare for every fucking body....
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 06:56 PM
Oh, hello bosco (it's not the drink for me),
Having dealt with medicare with my parents for many years, I do not think that medicare for all is exactly what you imagine it be.
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 14, 2013 at 06:59 PM
Sitting out on our upper covered terrace. Very warm, flow out of SW bringing heavy rain, thunder and lightning when my iPhone sounds the klaxon for a tornado alert in the area.
Yowza! Have my eyes open but don't feel the pressure yet. Right conditions, though not like in Philly today.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | December 14, 2013 at 06:59 PM
GFY, "bosco", GFY.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | December 14, 2013 at 07:13 PM
-- He compromised inordinately with ACA, when the true goal was single-payer. He extended the olive branch and you responded according to habit which was easily preordained.--
He didn't need, nor did he compromise to get, a single Republican vote to pass what he did so what exactly is it you're talking about?
It was the Reps who somehow stymied your blessed Medicaid for all?
You are correct in one thing though; if the Dems get their way it will be single payer for every body. Not everybody. Every body.
Posted by: Ignatz | December 14, 2013 at 07:14 PM
He compromised inordinately with ACA
I don't think Obama knows the first, second or third thing about Obamacare. He pushed the idea, and others did all of the work.
Posted by: DrJ | December 14, 2013 at 07:18 PM
I hope everyone knows that bosco = Cleo.
Posted by: Extraneus | December 14, 2013 at 07:34 PM
Ex, his writing style is obvious.
Posted by: DrJ | December 14, 2013 at 07:37 PM
He pushed the
ideafeather, and othersdid all of the worksmoked a ton of weed and cashed checks.John Dean owns the ACA progressive wet dream. He owns the Progressive Democrat Party success in 2006, 2008 and 2012 and he owns the 2010 House catastrophe as well as the coming 2014 Senate annihilation.
Posted by: Account Deleted | December 14, 2013 at 07:39 PM
Dr. J
I concur just as he did with the porkulus, he let others fill-in the blanks. It just had to be a big expenditure.
With ACA he could have chosen basic coverage, instead of all the add-ons. Abortion, contraceptive, sex-change, etc.
Posted by: boricuafudd | December 14, 2013 at 07:44 PM
Isn't bosco that stuff little kids put in their milk to make it sweeter (and more toxic)?
Posted by: Sis Boombah | December 14, 2013 at 07:48 PM
'He pushed the idea, and others did all of the work...'
Part of your problem is your tendency to underestimate him, Now with Dubya, that was occasionally a Deadfall, but one would be right most of the time whilst denigrating his native intelligence. I think your over-arching assumptions (he's not that smart) do your cause a disservice, but there is obviously little wiggle-room for your thought process. Carry on.
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 07:49 PM
" his writing style is obvious."
Congrats. You've id'd the owner. Now is your klaxxon designed to ward off inconvenient ideas, or to honor your agreement not to respond? Is there a difference?
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 07:55 PM
I guess the Pitzer students don't want to play pass the feather any more. Shame really...
Posted by: Gmax | December 14, 2013 at 07:56 PM
Cretins who console themselves with Pitzer dreams are the saddest of sacks. Keep pounding that sand.
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 08:01 PM
Dreams? Of a third rate backwater nondescript and worse than mediocre joke of an institution? The word you meant to use was nightmare...
Posted by: Gmax | December 14, 2013 at 08:06 PM
It's not that your ideas are inconvenient, Cleo. Even without the attempted cuteness, they're not well thought out. And even if they were, they'd be harmful if taken seriously. Fortunately, no one here has ever taken them seriously. Except for your many lurking fans, of course.
Posted by: Extraneus | December 14, 2013 at 08:08 PM
Dreams or nightmare, it's still a fantasy you grasp in desperation. I don't know why I tell you this because the notion is aging like wine.
When the cork gets popped, you'll find grape juice and no high from it's effects.
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 08:11 PM
Have Hagel, Landrieu and Pryor been briefed re BOzo's magnificent strategery? Cuz they're not sleeping well between their crying jags and screaming fits.
Posted by: Account Deleted | December 14, 2013 at 08:12 PM
Oh I see we are back to denying the dirtbag professor passing is the feather captured in the student newspaper is you? I don't blame you, that is bloody well embarrassing as hell...
Posted by: Gmax | December 14, 2013 at 08:17 PM
Ex; So as you are alerting the masses so as to not respond, you respond? I just wonder why it is so necessary to divert attention when there is nothing untoward in my comments. Mebbe the inconvenience conflicts with the day-old bread served here.
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Gobstopper will be the final hold-out once the facts prevail. (what did I say? This is JOM) Foolish conclusions are as rare as Sahara sand.
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 08:22 PM
Why does TM hate his parakeet so?
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 14, 2013 at 08:22 PM
I think Cleo is smoking a little weed tonite.
Posted by: Jane | December 14, 2013 at 08:25 PM
Maybe if you shake both fists and stomp your feet while denying the obvious, it will convince someone here. Hell its worth a try, cuz the other way aint working a lick.
Posted by: Gmax | December 14, 2013 at 08:26 PM
If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom*.
Posted by: MarkO | December 14, 2013 at 08:29 PM
It don't matter to me if you stink up your own creds. Go for it, Gobs.
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 08:29 PM
Wretchard had a nice turn-of-the-phrase tonight:
Posted by: DrJ | December 14, 2013 at 08:30 PM
You and the fake sign language guy are incredibly comparable. You enter under false premises, and don't know anything about which you are talking about but you fake it anyway. Is the sky marmalade pastels in your little world, Mr Anarchist? Has it occurred to you that everyone pisses on you, when they bother to notice you at all?
Posted by: Gmax | December 14, 2013 at 08:34 PM
Ray; they made girder made from pure selenium.
Peter; they don't make them like that any more.
Egon; they never made them like that.
Ghostbusters 1984
Posted by: narciso, | December 14, 2013 at 08:40 PM
Tether your elephants.
Posted by: MarkO | December 14, 2013 at 08:48 PM
He compromised inordinately with ACA
If you are referring to single payer, it was Democrats who refused to go along with that. Obviously Repubs didn't have the votes to stop any of it.
Posted by: Porchlight | December 14, 2013 at 08:50 PM
DrJ's link - http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2013/12/14/if-i-can-fake-it-there-ill-fake-it-anywhere/
Posted by: Janet | December 14, 2013 at 08:51 PM
I've dubbed him, Alinsky's Sorcerer's apprentice, because even though he has the pitch down, he really doesn't know what he is doing,
Posted by: narciso, | December 14, 2013 at 08:53 PM
" Has it occurred to you that everyone pisses on you, when they bother to notice you at all?"
I think it's just the reverse. I provoke response. Quite frankly, I do not want people to respond, but I want to shake the tree a little. I think there are those here who realize that nerve pathways get well-worn and sometimes the path least taken....
I really, really don't want anyone (and I mean ANYONE) to respond to me, It's the least productive venue for energy, and as you can all see, it leads nowhere. Now, as to why I'm recalcitrant....well that will have to wait for another time,
Posted by: bosco | December 14, 2013 at 08:56 PM
No one really reads the Times as Taranto has discovered, when their details are at variance with some of their editorial;
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/12/14/wsj-about-those-healthcare-gov-fixes/
The Journal does too, but there's not supposed to be a Chinese wall between Carlos Slim's various components.
Posted by: narciso, | December 14, 2013 at 09:01 PM
And the winner is....Jameis Winston
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 14, 2013 at 09:02 PM
You know what you think you think but, sadly, anarchy has stripped you of all traction.
Posted by: sbwaters | December 14, 2013 at 09:05 PM
sbw, the anarchy is just carp.
Posted by: Frau Lakritz | December 14, 2013 at 09:15 PM
Possibly Frau, but Dana's published work, indicates he never learned the lesson of anarchist fight club, they always lose, whether it's in turn of the century France, or Spain, the IWW, the People's Will, et al,
Posted by: narciso, | December 14, 2013 at 09:20 PM
anarchy is just carp
That goes without saying.
Posted by: sbwaters | December 14, 2013 at 09:21 PM
This that were said in 1942:
Don't you know that the greatest men in the world have told lies and let things be misunderstood if it was useful to them? Didn't you ever hear of a campaign promise?
Claudette Colbert in The Palm Beach Story.
Some things are eternal.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet | December 14, 2013 at 09:34 PM
Jon,
If you are reading, please accept my apology in the Truth thread. I am clueless!
Posted by: Jane | December 14, 2013 at 09:44 PM
Winning the Future, would they do this, if they were not evil?
Posted by: narciso, | December 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Heh, Jim R.
One of these days I'm building a den just like The Ale and Quail Club...bang! bang!
Posted by: Ignatz | December 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Studying is over. Time for bad decisionmaking-bar and food.
Posted by: Rich@gmu | December 14, 2013 at 10:03 PM
What a great idea, Ig. Those guys sure knew how to live.
BTW, the first word in my post should have been Things, not This. Drat.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet | December 14, 2013 at 10:10 PM
Crap phone...but the bartender is kinda cute. And from the previous thread ex and drj...coeds...yikes...think i'll get really drunk first...awesome story though.
Posted by: Rich@gmu | December 14, 2013 at 10:10 PM
rich, have a fish and chips with a good bitter ale for me.
You're on your own with the bartender.
Posted by: DrJ | December 14, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Don't forget to get consent via the "record" button on your cell phone, rich.
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 14, 2013 at 10:24 PM
Steph - lol
Posted by: Frau Lakritz | December 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Bar survailance (sp)...i'm drinking...classic...looking like a cab and no date tonight
Posted by: rich@gmu | December 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Surveillance.
When's the final?
Posted by: DrJ | December 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Monday morning...it has been one of those months...really bad decisionmaking, a coworker died (ugly story and I was probably the closest to him at work), and the anniversry of my Mom's death.
You do everything right and then you get treated like a chump. Feel like telling the world to fuck off.
But I'm going to fuck with the loudoun county revenue service tonight tonight
Posted by: rich@gmu | December 14, 2013 at 11:04 PM
Sorry to hear it, rich. Sleep well! I'm turning in too.
Posted by: DrJ | December 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Sleep well. I opened a door i should close. Think i'll call my d.ad tonight to pick me up from the bar...fitting actually.
Bartender is still cute... Coal in my stocking!!!!! Thanks daddy, i needed it overnight
Posted by: rich@gmu | December 14, 2013 at 11:22 PM
ACK! Was making homemade caramel corn and burned the caRp out of my thumb. Even with the happy pills it hurts.
Haystacks - done
Divinity - done
Caramel corn - done
Sausage balls - done
Eggnog rolls -
Sugar cookies -
Pecan brittle -
Cranberry orange bread -
Peppermint patties -
Cinnamon glazed pecans -
Thumbprint cookies -
Pumpkin muffins -
Pumpkin strudel pie -
Snickerdoodles -
Ambrosia-
Candied orange peels -
Orange cranberry pudding cake -
Anyone else got any suggestions to keep me from being bored?
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 14, 2013 at 11:55 PM
Forgot the peanut butter fudge and the fudge!
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Anonamom
if you see this, I googled stent removal to see what I'm in for on Monday and it sounds like 15 seconds of moderate ouch and then horror stories of weeks of bladder and ureter spasms. Please reassure me that those are the exception and not the rule. Had spasms with my first surgery 12 years ago and would rather give birth sideways than repeat that pain.
Nervous nellie here. Thanks!
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 15, 2013 at 12:12 AM
I'm waiting for people to storm the NYT' office bldg--preferably including lots of Upper West Side "creative" Obama supporters who've collided with reality.
Posted by: clarice | December 15, 2013 at 01:29 AM
I was watching an interesting little gem, the Double, from the folks at Imagenation Abu Dhabi, it was on Netflix, the point of the story is Richard Gere is an ex CIA analyst who is tracking
a master Russian hitman, and he brings along a young FBI protege, of course there's a suspicion
he's the person they are tracking, but that isn't the interesting part,
Posted by: narciso, | December 15, 2013 at 02:39 AM
Dang, what are you two doing up at this hour? I napped most of Saturday thanks to this damnable stent (bugging the caRp out of me) and am thus wide awake even on three different pills that say "warning may cause drowsiness".
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 15, 2013 at 02:58 AM
Up early since we had another big thunder-buster / tornado come through our county. Incredible lightning out to sea with 4 Mayport Shrimpers lined up like pearls on a necklace. Real impressive.
This was about 2:30am and I stayed on watch for any danger signs but thankfully the twister never came down near us. Strange December. Very warm, humid, rain and storms. No dry season as the norm.
Now there is another narrow band stretching from Tampa to Daytona.
May the force be with the Space Coast and not us.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | December 15, 2013 at 07:19 AM
Good morning, all!
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 15, 2013 at 07:43 AM
Snowstorm! We are warm and cozy in the cabin.Light,powdery snow,cold and windy.A beautiful winter wonderland.
Posted by: marlene on Kindle | December 15, 2013 at 07:45 AM
Dang, Jack. Stay safe those Florida boomers can be dangerous.
Mayport shrimpers on the ocean are gorgeous. Now I'm hungry. Singletons. Nomnomnom.
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 15, 2013 at 07:51 AM
Everybody, snow total reports, please!
Stephanie, I'm sorry but I don't happen to know what happens once I sign people out from the recovery room after a stent removal.
Your urologist's nurse would be a good source of info.
I suspect it varies, and that some of the really awful stories are from people who had them placed for stones, and small pieces of the stone continue to pass.
Posted by: anonamom | December 15, 2013 at 08:00 AM
Hey look, Cleo's fake son actually exists!
Thomas Conrad, who had an economics class with [the shooter] Pierson, described him as a very opinionated Socialist*.
"He was exuberant I guess," Conrad said. "A lot of people picked on him, but it didn't seem to bother him."
In one Facebook post, Pierson attacks the philosophies of economist Adam Smith who through his invisible hand theory pushed the notion that the free market was self-regulating. In another post, he describes himself as "Keynesian."
"...I was wondering to all the neoclassicals and neoliberals, why isn't the market correcting itself?" he wrote. "If the invisible hand is so strong, shouldn't it be able to overpower regulations?"
Pierson also appears to mock Republicans on another Facebook post, writing "you republicans are so cute" and posting an image that reads: "The Republican Party: Health Care: Let 'em Die, Climate Change: Let 'em Die, Gun Violence: Let 'em Die, Women's Rights: Let 'em Die, More War: Let 'em Die. Is this really the side you want to be on?" (emphasis added)
Posted by: windansea | December 15, 2013 at 08:02 AM
Southern Maine already has foot of snow.We may get more,I'll give a total later today.It is also wicked cold.
Posted by: marlene on Kindle | December 15, 2013 at 08:06 AM
In Southamtpon news, it was 27F, 40F water temperature and snowing when 400 people showed up at Cooper's Beach for the annual Polar Plunge. Brrrrrr!
Where are Clarice's Pieces???
Posted by: 2Jack is Back4! | December 15, 2013 at 08:15 AM
From Stihl, to Ignatz:
(Not so) Silent Night.
Posted by: AliceH | December 15, 2013 at 08:26 AM
Frederick's final kick at his cross country meet yesterday:)
Posted by: 2Jack is Back4! | December 15, 2013 at 08:37 AM
I think she said she wasn't doing one this week, JiB.
Posted by: Ignatz | December 15, 2013 at 08:39 AM
I think Clarice said earlier this week no pieces as it was too distracting where she was.
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 15, 2013 at 08:40 AM
Nice pic, Jack.
What Iggy said. :)
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 15, 2013 at 08:41 AM
Half blasphemous, half reverent and all entertaining at the same time, Alice. :)
Posted by: Ignatz | December 15, 2013 at 08:42 AM
And this one (from Guinness), is OBVIOUSLY for daddy:
Sheepdog herding
Posted by: AliceH | December 15, 2013 at 08:44 AM
Thanks, anonamom. Yes most of them were lithotripsy and stoners. That you assume what I had noticed actually makes me feel better. :)
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 15, 2013 at 08:44 AM
Nap time. Zzzzzzzzz
Posted by: Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games | December 15, 2013 at 08:46 AM
Dana Ward Pisser
"Guns don't kill people, Keynesians kill people"
Posted by: windansea | December 15, 2013 at 08:56 AM
Hilarious SNL Video: President Obama and Mandela Sign Language Interpreter Cold Open
http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/12/hilarious-snl-video-president-obama-and.html
Posted by: Steve | December 15, 2013 at 08:58 AM
Teen gets probation for killing four people while DUI because of "affluenza"; he was a spoiled brat.
No doubt we will now have to endure the lefties indicting the free market and the GOP for the state sanctioning guilt free murder and the spoiled brat proffering that uber-leftwing defense that he's not responsible for his own actions. Society made him do it, as Oingo Boingo reminds us, he was Only a Lad.
Posted by: Ignatz | December 15, 2013 at 09:03 AM
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Ig!
Posted by: AliceH | December 15, 2013 at 09:07 AM
And in return for Alice; the Hallelujah Chorus by a choir of Trappists.
Posted by: Ignatz | December 15, 2013 at 09:12 AM
The snow has blown a lot in northwestern New Hampshire, but it looks like 4 to 6 inches so far. The wind is still blowing and the snow is still coming down. It's warmed up to 24 degrees or so. (It was 7 degrees yesterday.)
Posted by: MaryD | December 15, 2013 at 09:32 AM
LOL, iggy @9:12.
Posted by: jimmyk | December 15, 2013 at 09:44 AM
Insty links to a blogger who posts a Glock advert that they describe as 'offensive' to liberals. I don t think the advert is in anyway offensive, it shows the perfect scenario for a pistol in the home secured until it s needed for self defense in the home. The only missing detail is a view of the lady's NRA pistol safety course certificate. Of course knowvit all jerks could be offended. Oh, Gunny Hartmann makes an appearance in the advert.
Posted by: NKonIPad | December 15, 2013 at 09:46 AM
In Washington State:
If you like your checking account, you can keep your checking account.
Posted by: 2Jack is Back4! | December 15, 2013 at 09:48 AM
Morning all, that film from last night, was interesting, in the way that it illustrates the
'security services in war and piece, paradigm
that we know so well, being funded by Dubai, there is a bit about Americans taking their eye of for being the Middle East, but the notion that their quarry and his hunter, were both controlled by the 'Main Eneny' is not all that surprising.
So one looks at the T-Dawg case in that light, obviously the dot that Volodya's men, had provided didn't fit, in the Bureau's worldview, the fact he was related even tangentially to a former Agency official, Graham Fuller, made investigating him on the other side, problematic,
Posted by: narciso, | December 15, 2013 at 09:54 AM
No Pieces. Too hard to do because I've been reorganizing things for my 94 y.o. mother in South Fla. Sunny and lovely here though.
Posted by: clarice | December 15, 2013 at 09:54 AM
Thank you, Iggy @9:12! I had forgotten about that one, and it is one of my all time favorites! This time, tagged and bookmarked.
Posted by: AliceH | December 15, 2013 at 09:57 AM
'Is this you final answet;
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/12/15/surprise-white-house-delayed-enacting-rules-before-2012-election-to-avoid-controversy/
glad to see it worked out clarice.
Posted by: narciso, | December 15, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Stephanie, from experience you don't want those spasms. Worst pain in my life. Grunting every second wasn't clear enough to be interpreted as a plea for oxycodone.
Grab your doctor by the tongue and demand something like Myrbetriq.
Posted by: sbwaters | December 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Ig,
To add salt to the wound, the judge who sentenced him is a republican.
Posted by: Sue | December 15, 2013 at 10:06 AM
--Insty links to a blogger who posts a Glock advert that they describe as 'offensive' to liberals. I don t think the advert is in anyway offensive...--
Liberals always find the intrusion of the real world offensive, NK.
Freedom lovers adapt their policies to the real world and immutable human nature.
Statists adapt their perception of the real world to their policies and declare human nature infinitely mutable.
Posted by: Ignatz | December 15, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Stephanie, my Christmas task for today, now completed, was finishing handwriting all the Christmas cards for our employees.
My job the day before Christmas is fudge.
Posted by: sbwaters | December 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Another shooting and, like clockwork, Roger Ailes provides a platform for gloryhound Mark Kelly to shill for more gun grabbing. To his credit, Chris Wallace has pointed out that this fraud has been an almost total failure in violating the Constitution. Plus he didn't dress up his trained monkey, Gabby, and parade her in front of a mass audience.
Posted by: Captain Hate | December 15, 2013 at 10:10 AM
Captain Hate,
I find Mark Kelly extremely creepy, and have felt so since I found out he took her shooting.
Why would a guy do that to someone who was traumatized and badly injured by a gunshot? It's not like her coordination is going to be good enough to shoot, or like she will be carrying a gun or using one for self-defense.
My non-professional diagnosis is that they had an ok marriage as long as they were a power couple of Congresswoman and astronaut. When she was so severely injured, he lost his access to the corridors of power, and since he had to resign as an astronaut to care for her, he's trapped in a situation in which he has to push the gun-grabbing in order to get on TV and generate some income.
He's probably like to ditch her but then he would be publicly scorned; thus he is trapped.
I would not be surprised to discover he has a girlfriend somewhere and ignores Gabby at home. I also would not be surprised he verbally abuses her and is totally mean to her.
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 15, 2013 at 10:20 AM
In time for Christmas:
Jesus is the most famous person in history according to software algorithm
Plus he looks awful caucasian in that rendering.
I wonder without looking if anyone can guess who is number 2? [No, thank Jesus, its not who you first suspect?]
Posted by: 2Jack is Back4! | December 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM