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December 18, 2013

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NK(withnewsoftware)

If Braves revenue will pay off the County Bonds, what is the local TP objection? Do they know what they are talking about?

narciso,

Yes, they always promise that, but that never works out, it always costs more, and the community are saddled with it,

NK(withnewsoftware)

JimmyK-- as ThomasC could tell you more precisely than I, Cobb County Muni Bonds should price out at a lower %rate, than Braves' own strictly private development loan %, so the County's only 'cost' is the opportunity cost of delegating a large part of its bonding to this particular development. Does that squeeze out any more worthy Cobb County project?

Stephanie

Some chick named Ira Curry or something like that from Stone Mountain probably works in the building. Lots of lawyers/acct firms and such are in that building. I did a short term contract in that building when it first opened. Of course, I've done alot of short term stints that I've probably been in 20% of the 'big name' buildings in Atlanta. ;)

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/winning-mega-millions-ticket-sold-in-buckhead/ncNjj/

jimmyk

I'm sure Solyndra was supposed to pay for itself too. And GM's bailout.

And even if it did, why is this appropriate for government, even local government?

2Jack is Back4!

Regarding indoor v. outdoor stadiums.

How well, for exemple, have the Minnesota Vikings fared since they went inside? Compared to how well they did outside?

Buffalo may not have won any Super Bowls but they have been in plenty and play outside. So does Pittsburgh and the Giants and Redskins. Oh, then you have those pesky outdoorsmen, the Patriots.

49ers don't count. They don't play Candlestick in the cold month - July:)

But why the hell does Nuh'lens and Houston have to have domes? Indy I understand. If any city should it would be Green Bay and then Chicago.

jimmyk

Cobb County Muni Bonds should price out at a lower %rate, than Braves' own strictly private development loan %

Well, then by golly, we should just have all development financed by muni bonds. It's "cheaper," and what could go wrong?

clarice

I'm with Jimmyk on publicly finance4d stadiums--a major scam--Braves moved out after a few years from the Milwaukee paid for stadium when Perrini got a better deal from Atlanta. It's a fools' game.

Threadkiller

http://deadspin.com/this-is-the-best-idea-for-stadium-financing-weve-ever-1179741278

narciso,

The O' Henry twist, was when they ignored the bridge into Minneapolis to concentrate on the stadium,

crony capitalism isn't that appetizing in any guise, specially when we pay for it, down here, there was a time we had two stadiums four blocks apart.

Stephanie

Alot of the taxes are to be generated by an increase in the hotel/motel occupancy tax (similar to FLA).

Cobb has lots of 'village" style developments and they tend to do pretty well. That vision doesn't bother me. The Avenues complexes come to mind. As do the revitalizations of several old small town areas that were expanded and are now quaint restaurant/boutique shopping destinations. The 'residences' part is the dicey thing. Although, IIRC you can buy a condo at Atlanta International Speedway and overlook the track that has what? two races a year? Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I'd avoid residences around a stadium just cause of the traffic generated, but what do I know...

narciso,

some signs of sanity,

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/12/brandeis-univ-drops-american-studies-association-membership-over-israel-boycott/

NK(withnewsoftware)

Narciso@4:54-- afactual. The NYC stadia deals for USTA center, Yankee Stadium (new) and Citifield had no such issue. The only potential issue I see is the squeeze out of other County financed projects by devoting this Bond issue to a stadium of this sort, because access to muni credit is not infinite.

NK(withnewsoftware)

JimmyK-- airports, railroad rights of way, highways, subways, Bridges, canals, tunnels etc government bonding authority has been a source of capital (and corruption) for virtually all of these USA infrastucture developments for 2 centuries. the financial theory of Muni/State credit for infrastructure is sound-- the application of the theory is... complicated.

Stephanie

On a sports/government related subject:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/fcc-nfl-blackouts-101294.html

Yea!

narciso,

Getting back to Dame Peggy, didn't she get an inkling with Ft, Hood, the Underwear bomber, where the then famously 'Janet Incompetano' said the system worked, by that she meant the Danish photog
wrestled Abdulmutallaab to the ground,

Stephanie

And with that Ima go wrap some presents and make some more Divinity (humidity is right, finally). And Pecan Brittle. And White Trash. And cookies. And ...

jimmyk

the financial theory of Muni/State credit for infrastructure is sound

So baseball stadiums are 'infrastructure'? Cool.

Beasts of England

I think golf courses should be considered infrastructure...

Danube on iPad

Greg Gutfeld just said Baba Wawa "makes my skin crawl."

lyle

Dame Peggy still can't give up her crush on JEF because it would be admitting she was woefully, undeniably wrong about him five plus years ago and would throw her judgement, such as it is, into harsher light.

Just remember how she and all the others--that I won't waste time naming--smoothly assured us rubes that preznit jackass was a gift, a rara avis, and we should be so lucky to have a New Man, a Uniter, with a superb temperament who could guide us out of the darkness. Rightwing hayseeds from flyover country would eventually see what the solons in the Acela corridor could see: A Man In Full. (apolgies to Thomas Wolfe)

These lame attempts to cover her ass are as pathetic as they are predictable.

Too bad Media Whore Maverick was the other nominee. Then, of course, Mittens was foisted on us by all the in-the-know consultants.

matt

are you on the Main Line, henry? I'm happy the service went well.

Am not sure you can do an honest deal in Atlanta. ACOG and its corruption were the final straw when I left the Olympic Movement. And Billy Payne was the top crook or at least the most visible.

Beasts of England

He's a rare bird, alright, lyle. Just not the kind we had hoped for - more of a Dodo.

Beasts of England

Gotta tell you a great Billy Payne story, matt. An acquaintance who I play golf with at least one per year had the incredible foresight to marry one of Payne's daughters.

After one of his rounds at ANGC, they had dinner in the clubhouse and Billy took him downstairs to peruse their incomparable wine cellar. While underground, he asked to have his picture made with Billy and the racks of wine. Mr. Payne said ok, but warned him if the photo ever went into social media, he'd 'kill him.' Too funny.

2Jack is Back4!

If only the BPL in the UK had a benevolent FCC like we do.

I can watch the Premiership games here in real time while the Brits have to listen to a bunch of guys hunched over their own TV displays report the games to them without video.

Why? Because in the UK they do worry about bums in the seats.

I am near Jacksonville and I can't remember when they were exempt from the blackout rule.

2Jack is Back4!

BoE,

Guess what - no Le Pin in that wine cellar. Not when I was there in 99.

Threadkiller

Kawasaki says he did not know about the death of Loretta Fuddy until he got back to land."It was devastating to say the least. Initially everyone said that everyone was accounted for and everyone was okay. So I couldn't understand how that could happen at that time...that she could have passed. 'Cause everyone seemed fine when they got out of the airplane."

http://m.kitv.com/news/pilot-vividly-describes-fatal-molokai-plane-crash/-/17421002/23550324/-/if707i/-/index.html

Account Deleted

"So baseball stadiums are 'infrastructure'?"

Judging by the remains, circenses, arenas and stadia have been infrastructure projects for some time. There is some reason to suspect their construction had a strong political aspect from the very beginning.

The world has never lacked for yokels and relieving them of the terrible burden of economic surplus on a voluntary basis has always been an enjoyable pastime for politicians as well as their fascist enablers.

jimmyk

One more thing about stadiums: Check out this website devoted to exposing publicly funded stadium scams. Very thorough, and seems to strike the right tone:

http://www.fieldofschemes.com/


Beasts of England

Did you go downstairs, JiB? I understand it is formidable. Maybe your bil could hook them up with some 'Pine'. ;)

narciso,

You almost can't see the strings attached;


http://washingtonexaminer.com/insurers-extend-deadline-for-americans-to-pay-first-months-obamacare-premiums/article/2540922

2Jack is Back4!

Is Jay Carney the most visible cartoon characteer we have seen since Baghdad Bob?

MaryD

Rick at 5:58 -- What an interesting way to think about public funding of the Circus part of "Bread and Circuses". Thanks for the insight.

2Jack is Back4!

BoE,

Been downstairs twice. My old boss was a member and I have been there twice. But then they did have '48 Cheval Blanc that no one wanted to open. Why niot?

Vinegar, most likely.

narciso,

I guess they could have sent him to the Dark Side of the Moon;


http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/12/18/white-house-to-nominate-max-baucus-as-ambassador-to-china/

2Jack is Back4!

narc,

He does speak perfect Mandarin as proven by the ACA bill.

narciso,

Point taken, although his job is basically begging for Chinese funds, a pointless exercise,

rse

Weighing in on the stadium, every regionalism newsletter I get was salivating over the deal. The idea that Cobb had finally been captured and would have to abide by the regionalism plans for it. Kasim Reed essentially said the same. Some of the finest homes in ATL close in were built just outside city limits and now they are on the back roads to access the stadium. The owners are livid.

jimmy-remember 43's personal wealth largely came from the Rangers stadium deal changing the value of the team. Fine man but it does make it hard to get someone to appreciate the dangers of cronyism.

Captain Hate

The Chinese are still traumatized from dealing with Huntsman.

Account Deleted

MaryD,

The construction public funding was handled by sending the legions out to pillage, plunder and enslave. The Roman citizen bore only the upkeep. I'm more partial to the cathedral building intercity competition which began with Constantine and peaked eight or nine hundred years later. Restarting the stadia building contests isn't exactly a mark of progress.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Stadia as infrastructure? the devil is in the details as with any investment, and even then, the final judgment only is made with the outcome. The NYC Economic Development Corp is probably the most expert shop at structuring deals to minimize risks to Taxpayers. Rudy G inherited the Dinkins deal with the USTA to build the Tennis Center and stadium at Flushing Meadows. Rudy G hated the deal, and hired really sharp financial/legal staff for EDC to run that deal through a fine tooth comb to prevent any hidden subsidies from Taxpayers to USTA. That oversight became the model for the subsequent Citfield Yankee Stadium and other 'public private partnership' deals. The USTA deal has been a giant money maker for NYC, because the US Open is now a gynormous worldwide event-- shocking how big it is, and NYers and suburbanites turn out in droves for it. GWB's deal with Fort Worth for the Rangers stadium worked very well for that local government. Other deals go spectacularly badly, Harrisburg Pa and Birmingham Al. were bankrupted by bad bond deals to build 'infrastructure.'Everyone can draw their own conclusions about the value of using local bonding authority for stadia or other public private deals, but if they are structured and administered correctly, the Taxpayers are not at substantial risk. So the deals ultimately are a value judgment, not a financial/tax judgment.

Ignatz

--The only potential issue I see...--

When you ask government, even local government, to do things the private sector can do and should do for itself it encourages government to do all manner of other things the private sector can and should do for itself and, just as bad, it encourages the private sector to invite government into areas it shouldn't.
It's not clear who the whore is and who the john but it's dirty business either way and aint no love affair.

narciso,

Well there you go, so much for speaking truth to power;

NK(withnewsoftware)

Ignatz-- as I said in my 6:32, those are value judgments, not finacial/tax issues.

Rse-- where do you draw the antidevelopment Luddite line in making the value judgment I outlined? Did airline CEOs and SHs 'get rich' from the massive government subsidy of airline travel, yes they did. Is that per se cronyism and a mistake in hindsight? Did road contractors, land owners and Motel chains 'get rich' from the Eisenhower Interstate system? why yes they did. Was that a per se mistake and cronyism? Oftimes these things are more complicated than we'd like them to be.

windansea

A top diplomat at India’s consulate in Manhattan who lobbies for women’s rights has been busted by the feds — after allegedly mistreating her female nanny.

Devyani , India’s 39-year-old deputy consul general for political, economic, commercial and women’s affairs, was busted Thursday for allegedly helping to submit fake documents to the US State Department saying she was paying the woman $4,500 per month — when, in reality, the caregiver received only $573 monthly, or a measly $3.31 an hour.

In an April interview with The Indian Panorama, a weekly Manhattan-based newspaper, Khobragade claimed that she’s a strong advocate for “underprivileged” women’s rights.

The diplomat is accused of telling the woman to lie on her visa application to get to the United States and say she was going to be paid the higher amount.

Then, Khobragade allegedly had the woman sign a second, under-the-radar contract that noted the nanny’s monthly salary including overtime — the much smaller amount.

rse

NK-remember I am reading all of this public/private intentions first hand. I am going to these meetings. I am watching the various cookie jars people have their hand in.

I am not calling it cronyism as a slur. These are carefully cultivated, deliberate conflicts designed to get people to do what is desired because they are on the financial ride of their life at taxpayer expense with only personal upside to worry about.

When I go to one of these shindigs and the business "reps" are defense contractors and utility execs and hospital heads I get to notice that is not exactly the private sector.

I am not against development but I recognize a rigged game when I see it, especially when I have read or listened to a description of how the game is being rigged. That certainly doesn't make me a Luddite.

narciso,

I wouldn't want to be the US Ambassador in New Delhi about now, the Russian Ambassador might be newly popular.

NK(withnewsoftware)

I feel great shame for not seeing the Eloi parallel to that smug jammie-boy bastard. Michael Walsh is on it: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/366674/triumph-eloi-michael-walsh

NK(withnewsoftware)

Is every bond game rigged? Obviously a rhetorical question, they are not. That's why I say these things are more complicated than we like, and cronyism is not the sine qua non of every bond deal in my experience.

Drive the USA in your NSA

DESVARIEUX: So, Ray, let's jump right into this and Judge Leon's decision. As I said in the introduction, he ruled that it was unconstitutional, what the NSA is doing. But I want to take up the counterargument, because you have those who are saying that they are willing to suspend some of these constitutional rights for their safety, and they argue that, you know, we haven't had an attack on American soil since 9/11, and it's because of surveillance programs like the NSA. What's your response to that?

RAY MCGOVERN, EX-CIA ANALYST: Well, my response is, if you want to change the Constitution, there's a way to do that. But the Fourth Amendment is about security of people. Okay? It says the right of people to be secure from unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue except upon probable cause, particularly defining the area to be searched or the people or things to be seized. It's the simplest of all amendments.

There is no way that NSA programs can square with that amendment. And Dianne Feinstein and Mike Rogers and all the people who are supposed to be overseeing this but are kind of overlooking it know that.

Miss Marple

You know why they go with the government/partnership for stadiums?

The owners don't want to have to borrow money from banks (interest) and they don't want to go public, because then they would have to answer to shareholders (like Green Bay).

We go through this in Indianapolis. There is no doubt that the Lucas Oil Stadium and the basketball arena (can't remember the current name) draw business to downtown and got us the Superbowl.

However, the infusion of cash into the Pacers (owned by Mel Simon of Mall of America and a billionaire) is undeserved. And the football stadium replaced another stadium that wasn't even paid for yet.

Indianapolis has built its downtown around sports. Both of those facilities are located in the downtown along with the minor league Indians baseball team's Victory Field. They are all beautiful sites and host a lot of stuff other than sports.

But I just feel like the teams should contribute more, considering how much they cost. Well, I am not in Marion County (Indianapolis) so I don't have a vote. I just watch with interest.

NK(withnewsoftware)

The Indian Diplo is a very bad girl; but as I admitted above, the Obummer DoS treatment of a vital ally's Diplo was stupid in the extreme. And Kerry's nonsensical statement was just a disgrace.

Ignatz

So it's not a financial/tax issue because it only sometimes blows up in cities' faces?
When governments lose taxpayer money on behalf of billionaires >50% of the time it's no longer a financial or tax issue?

It's a tax issue, a financial issue, a political science issue and a philosophical issue.
Why do the taxpayers' have to bear any risk on behalf of fabulously wealthy individuals? If the market will support the deal then it will occur. If the market doesn't, the taxpayer's shouldn't have to take up the slack.

Nor do I think a privately owned stadium meets the definition of infrastructure;
in·fra·struc·ture (nfr-strkchr)
n.
1. An underlying base or foundation especially for an organization or system.
2. The basic facilities, services, and installations needed for the functioning of a community or society, such as transportation and communications systems, water and power lines, and public institutions including schools, post offices, and prisons.

NK(withnewsoftware)

MissM-- you outline the devilish details of bond deals like the stadia bonds. BTW-- in any properly structured deal, the teams pay the bond interest FIRST out of operating income, the County/City never pays any interest, if the team defaults and County/City has to pay, all sorts of bad things happen to the team. Who's the hooker who's the john? deveil's in the details.

Captain Hate

Soooooo the State Dept feels free to meddle in and criminalize the financial aspects of family matters of foreign diplomats but sends homos to India where that behavior is against the law? I don't see this ending well for the fudge packers.

NK(withnewsoftware)

'privately owned stadium'

again in a properly structured deal, the Gov't owns the Stadium and leases back to the team, or it has liens on the Team income to pay the bond interest and/or take back the stadium in the event of a default.
NYC, Fort Worth TPs are happy with their deals, Harrisburg and Birmingham were bankrupted. very different results from very different deals.

narciso,

It's all relative, you try this with Volodya's minions, and you get a Polonium cocktail, first Egypt soon India will be under their umbrella,
unless the BJP wins.

Danube on iPad

"So I couldn't understand how that could happen at that time...that she could have passed. 'Cause everyone seemed fine when they got out of the airplane."

It's obvious: one of the conspirators pulled her under. The question is, was the culprit already ib the water, knowing exactly where the plane would crash, or was it one of fer fellow passengers? Somebody needs to take a cold, hard look at that passenger list and find out just who these people are.

Drive the USA in your NSA

figures you'd come out for slavery and sub-minimum wage. It's the freeeeeeeeeeeee market after all and Mumbai pays less than $3 per hour soitsallgood.

narciso,

Meanwhile, the supply effort in Syria, is so hands off, that the son of the Saudi Quartermaster Corps was one of the recent martyrs in that conflict,

heck of a job, picking sides, Maverick.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Does EVERYTHING (and I mean literally everything as far as the public good is concerned) that the Obummer Crew touches, turn to Shite?

Extraneus

Imagine what it must be like to be the pajama queer right now? Even if he doesn't meet the formal lib definition of the word, his romantic prospects surely have taken a turn for the worse. Poor guy. He was probably hoping for a different sort of stardom.

Drive the USA in your NSA

"Imagine what it must be like to be the pajama queer"

I think it would be easier for you to imagine what it's like to be a stone-cold bigot.

clarice

Steph, Ira Curry was the lottery winner from your area.

narciso,

Alright who sent her the letters;


“The first lady is the best salesperson” for the White House, senior adviser Valerie Jarrett told POLITICO. She’s getting involved now, Jarrett said, because she’s the right person to convey the message of the moment: that the uninsured — especially young people and minorities — should look for insurance on exchanges and that those with insurance are already feeling the benefits of the law.


It's like the duo on 'Big Bang Theory' but they evince no correponding intelligence,

they really have lost the plot.

pagarnow

State Dept/NSA makes no difference!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/breaking-nsa-blows-major-plane-deal-for-boeing/

The Obama regime never thinks anything thru IMO>

Jane

Imagine what it must be like to be the pajama queer right now?

My fear is that is what is considered "cool" these days.

I haven't heard anyone say that, but this administration is pretty good at messaging.

Captain Hate

Does EVERYTHING (and I mean literally everything as far as the public good is concerned) that the Obummer Crew touches, turn to Shite?

Why yes; yes it does, either by ineptitude or design.

Miss Marple

I would like to emphasize that I don't think pajama guy is gay.

I think he is one of millions of arrested-development metrosexual hipsters produced by universities and encouraged in their weakness by the media and current pop culture.

In my younger years, I cannot imagine that guy as a date. Would he stand up for me when a biker made unwanted advances at a bar? Would he be able to change the tire on the car? Would he take me to see cool explosion movies or boring art films? Would he even be able to PAY for the date?

Pajama Guy is what 90% of the Obama Administration's aides are like as well as the epitome of the Juicebox guys. He should be sent to Outward Bound or enlist in the Army or something.

Drive the USA in your NSA

"My fear is that is what is considered "cool" these days."

Nice. The diff between 'cool' and 'cold' is just a matter of temperature.

It's like hot shit versus a cold turd.

Drive the USA in your NSA

"In my younger years, I cannot imagine that guy as a date. Would he stand up for me when a biker made unwanted advances at a bar?"

Is the biker more well-endowed? I see your point.

narciso,


Just epic fail, remember the navigators were chased out of this area:

http://twitchy.com/2013/12/18/debbie-wasserman-schultz-to-michelle-malkin-youre-going-to-eat-your-words-about-obamacare/

2Jack is Back4!

BTW, John Podesta is the equivalent to Zeke Emmanuel for domestic policy. Just look at his remarks and actions. He is evil.

Don't believe me then watch his press performances with the sound muted.

Threadkiller

It is fun to mock a grief stricken pilot for his concern that a passenger died while in his care.

Sympathy shall not get in the way of a comment section cop and his audience.

Hobbies...

Truthbetold

“Plamegate” was a CIA/State Dept. disinformation campaign

http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2013/12/18/plamegate-was-a-ciastate-dept-disinformation-campaign/

MaryD

Jane, I cannot imagine that any reasonable young man in the twenties age bracket would identify with this dork. I really think they jumped the shark with this ad. The hilarity on the net and twitter has been brutal.

Captain Hate

Don't believe me then watch his press performances with the sound muted.

I used to watch him on the Sunday gab shows and think he looks more reptilian than Carville.

narciso,

Yes, I think TOTUS is punking them again.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/12/18/with-the-clock-ticking-covered-california-mails-flawed-letters-to-114000-households/

pagarnow

: that those with insurance are already feeling the benefits of the law."

Has any one person been positively identified as benefiting from the law?
------------------------------------

NK @07:13 I think one has to first look at who is on the crew? IMO, there is noone who has any qualifications. Look at who they just bought into run DHS.

Captain Hate

Just epic fail, remember the navigators were chased out of this area

That snaggle-toothed witch isn't used to dealing with somebody other than gelded Repukes who won't fire back at her. MM could take her down while doing her nails.

Ignatz

I must confess to being virulently bigoted toward fey little creeps, whether they be of the homo or hetero persuasion, wearing flannel jammies with footies and little-shit hipster glasses; especially those in the pay of the anti American statists among us.

Jane

I really think they jumped the shark with this ad.

I really hope so. OTOH when I think of Obama in his mom-jeans it makes perfect sense.

Miss Marple, I hope he's gay. Otherwise I am quite concerned for our young people.

Drive the USA in your NSA

"I must confess to being virulently bigoted"

Bully for you. { Now where are all the true libertarians?}

Gmax

Politico reports on a panel of reporters admitting that yes, the media leans left.

Next are they going to tell me that the Affordable Care Act, has nothing to do with affordable care? Or am I dreaming?

MaryD

Off topic, and I said this on Lucianne this morning, but doesn't Podesta look like Ezekiel E-Mengle's ugly older brother. Check the drudge page.

Ignatz

The tolerant left again bans free speech, re climate change, this time at that paragon of virtue demonstrated by their illegal upskirt photos, Reddit.

centralcal

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 1m

A&E has suspended Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson because of comments he made to GQ about homosexuality

Threadkiller

A true libertarian wouldn't butt in.

henry

Thanks for the kind thoughts. The service went well. The Meeting House is next to Valley Forge Park, in Wayne but remote from the Wayne Station of the Main Line. I'm staying in a wonderful boutique hoter off Rittenhouse Square near where my brother lives ( Eddie Murphy as agent orange in trading places). Dinner at Amis, splendid:

Stephanie

Miss Marple, I hope he's gay. Otherwise I am quite concerned for our young people.

This is the ad targeted at gays...

http://minx.cc/?post=345824

There is a link imbedded in the first few paras that will take you to the ad. Don't say I didn't warn you...

The comments section is great, though.

Stephanie

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 1m

A&E has suspended Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson because of comments he made to GQ about homosexuality

Bzzzt. Wrong move. They are gonna eat squirrel and like it after that oopsie. Way stoopit.

Gmax

That geek in the onesie is too damn funny. Drinking hot chocolate? No Fing way, I am sure its some kind of rank dark green mixture extracted from organic wheat grass grown only in naturally occurring open spaces among old growth trees picked and shipped with the union label attached.

Miss Marple

Jane, for some time I have been concerned about our young people.

1. Boy bands as opposed to manly types like Tom Jones.
2. Whiney heroes like those vampire people.
3. Drugging active kids in schools under the pretense of ADD diagnosis. (Yes I know some have that, but it isn't a nationwide epidemic.)
4. President Obama is a poor example.
5. Sneering at guys who work with their hands.

Hopefully, Mike Rowe, some of the athletes, AND Duck Dynasty will make a dent in this depressing trend.

I always think we should not elect a president unless he can operate a chain saw.

Drive the USA in your NSA

"A true libertarian wouldn't butt in."

I never said I would depart....as for yourself...butts are in the ashtray.

narciso,

It's basically Doctor Cocteau's dystopia, without Sandra Bullock,

this is the dreck that Podesta has been sponsoring;

http://thebaffler.com/past/they_pretend_to_think_we_pretend_to_listen

there's category error at the end, because it is a lefty publication,

Ignatz

Funny from Ace;

narciso,

I haven't seen A & E in ages, first they suffocated that excellent Nero Wolfe adaptation, then they went wall to wall to CSI Miami, and stopped running segments of MI-5

Miss Marple

How in the heck did Phil Robertson get scheduled for an interview with GQ? And why was GQ even interested in him?

Answer: liberal infiltrator in publicity who got him the interview, and GQ deliberately led him on to making comments which would get him in trouble.

A&E will be sorry for their response. Big time.

Ignatz

--I never said I would depart....--

If that is a claim to being a libertarian King David hit just the right note for that claim when he coined the phrase "as far as the east is from the west".

Enlightened

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 1m

A&E has suspended Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson because of comments he made to GQ about homosexuality


I hope the rest of the Duck Dynasty members just walk off the show and tell A&E, GLAAD and their ilk to go to hell.

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