Tom Friedman explains that the Middle East turmoil can't be blamed on Obama, and offers some New Math to prove it:
Not Just About Us
Every day the headlines from the Arab world get worse: An Al Qaeda affiliate group, aided by foreign fighters, battles with seven different homegrown Syrian rebel groups for control of the region around Aleppo, Syria. The Iranian Embassy in Beirut is bombed. Mohamad Chatah, an enormously decent former Lebanese finance minister, is blown up after criticizing Hezbollah’s brutish tactics. Another pro-Al Qaeda group takes control of Fallujah, Iraq. Explosions rock Egypt, where the army is now jailing Islamists and secular activists. Libya is a mess of competing militias.
What’s going on? Some say it’s all because of the “power vacuum” — America has absented itself from the region. But this is not just about us. There’s also a huge “values vacuum.” The Middle East is a highly pluralistic region — Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Druze and various tribes — that for centuries was held together from above by iron-fisted colonial powers, kings and dictators. But now that vertical control has broken down, before this pluralistic region has developed any true bottom-up pluralism — a broad ethic of tolerance — that might enable its people to live together as equal citizens, without an iron fist from above.
For the Arab awakening to have any future, the ideology that is most needed now is the one being promoted least: Pluralism. Until that changes, argues Marwan Muasher, in his extremely relevant new book — “The Second Arab Awakening and the Battle for Pluralism” — none of the Arab uprisings will succeed.
We are waiting for pluralism to take hold in the Islamic world? I have the idea that it might be a mistake to hold my breath - haven't the Sunnis and the Shiites been schismatic and hostile for over a millenium? Iran and Saudi Arabia will lie down together with the lion and the lamb when cats and dogs are sleeping together.
Well. I promised some New Math:
Again, President Obama could have done more to restrain leaders in Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran or Syria from going to extremes. But, ultimately, argues Muasher, this is the Arabs’ fight for their political future. If 500,000 American troops in Iraq, and $1 trillion, could not implant lasting pluralism in the cultural soil there, no outsider can, said Muasher. There also has to be a will from within.
"500,000" American troops? That may well be the total number of soldiers that toured through Iraq, but the maximum US troop level never exceeded 166,300.
And dare we ask for a bit of context? First, Iraq borders collapsing Syria and is importing their problems as Al Qaeda attempts to set up shop in Syria and re-open in Iraq.
Second, what is an appropriate time frame to achieve this change? Japan and Germany seemed to manage a forced transition to democracy, but we still have a troop presence there nearly seventy years later. And I see that we are expanding our troop presence in South Korea, although the active phase of that war ended more than sixty years ago.
I don't believe this collapse in Iraq was inevitable; I think it has been unexpected but accepted by Team Obama:
For all the attention paid to Syria over the past three years, Iraq’s slow disintegration also offers a vivid glimpse of the region’s bloody sectarian dynamic. In March 2012, Anthony Blinken, who is now President Obama’s deputy national security adviser, gave a speech echoing the White House’s rosy view of Iraq’s prospects after the withdrawal of American forces.
Iraq, Mr. Blinken said, was “less violent, more democratic and more prosperous” than “at any time in recent history.”
Obama brought the troops home and got re-elected. Victory!
It was my understanding there would be no math, new or otherwise.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | January 08, 2014 at 11:03 AM
Once again, addition is easy but subtraction is hard.
Has there ever been a period of calm and peace in the middle east (as we know it - inlcuding North Africa, Iran and Turkey)?
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 11:18 AM
JiB-- I'm no expert on the pre Euro-Colonial ME, but I assume that the Arabs and other ME ethnic/religious groups were just as violent, but with pre-Euro weapon technology, the body count was much lower.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 11:29 AM
first! (my own new math.)
Posted by: peter | January 08, 2014 at 11:34 AM
NK,
That was, ahem, a rhetorical quesiton:)
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 11:38 AM
Obama didn't land on the Middle East, the Middle East landed on him.
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 11:42 AM
Wasn't Friedman, who first acquainted us, with 'Hama rules' the way Bashir elder quelled the Moslem bros. Doesn't the Al Nusra front, full of Ikwan tribesmen, including the son of a late Saudi gen, that was in one of my blog posts. Wasn't it funded by one of those enthusiasts of the Arab Spring, from the Nuami tribe of Doha, Isn't both ISIL and
Al Nusra, headed by veterans of Zarquawi's bloodthirsty Tawhid, one an actual relative of same. Didn't he tells us to trust the Moslem Brotherhood which was been the seed for every major figure to Zubeydah to KSM
to his many successors, rhetorical questions all.
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 11:43 AM
Reading TomM and Narciso's takes on Friedman's musings, reminds me of that 'sport'.. is it the Afghans who play horseback 'polo' using an enemy's head as the ball?
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 11:49 AM
I hold Flathead with the appropriate lack of regard, Bing West, called the Marines, 'the Strongest Tribe' that settled the quarrels in Anbar. Coll would tell you, when he wrote 'Ghost Wars' that what he are planning to do in Afghanistan, is the last thing you would ever do in this circumstance,
Now I really don't trust any side of this game, as you need a program to tell all the players, and even inside tips,Prince Bandar seems to recruiting his cadres from the barrel, ala the Untouchables, and it's turning out as expected. the new Islamist
Salafi moderate, Ayyoush, also has a similar pedigree.
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 11:52 AM
Bushkazi, yes that's it, NK.
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 11:53 AM
NK,
You mean Buzkashi. But its played with the headless carcass of a goat.
Although they have been known to play with infidel heads from time to time.
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 11:53 AM
They should have tried with Solon of Scranton when he lectured Karzai, but you can only kick a hollow ball so far.
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 11:55 AM
A local radio host just dumped this on me. I have to say Olbermann got it right.
"Keith Remembers The Life Of A True Role Model: Jerry Coleman ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-OHPjIsisI
Very well done.
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 11:56 AM
Buzhashi-- well I enjoy reading TomM and Narciso treating Friedman's writing like the goat (or infidel head) in a good game of Buzhashi.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 12:01 PM
Breaking: Down Sandy's way.
Navy chopper down with 5 on board about 18 miles off Virginia Beach. Pray they are safe and the CG finds them.
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 12:36 PM
I am a retired FSO who worked on Entry Strategies for Amoco [now BP] in the eighties/nineties. I have lived in three Arab countries during my stint at State.
When giving talks to Amoco execs, I used to remind them that the Iran/Iraq war was normal.. In the last 400 years, there have been 17 wars between the Persians and the Turks [who at that time controlled Iraq.
Friedman is a certifiable dunce.
Posted by: daveinboca | January 08, 2014 at 12:42 PM
--The Middle East is a highly pluralistic region — Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Druze and various tribes — that for centuries was held together from above by iron-fisted colonial powers, kings and dictators. But now that vertical control has broken down, before this pluralistic region has developed any true bottom-up pluralism — a broad ethic of tolerance — that might enable its people to live together as equal citizens, without an iron fist from above.--
What an effing cretin.
Islam, whether shia or sunni is overwhelmingly the dominant theological, ideological, cultural, political and social power in the ME. The only time or place that has been even slightly pluralistic in the ME has been those small niches such as Lebanon or Israel where Islam doesn't dominate.
Even in those mythological golden ages of yore Jews and Christians were forced to live in dhimmitude, subservience, to muslims; they just weren't forcibly converted or beheaded quite so often as normally occurs in ME islamic society.
Freidman's head might be nice place to set your teacup or a coffee table book, but it was never meant to be used for thinking or writing.
Posted by: Ignatz | January 08, 2014 at 12:43 PM
"Freidman's head might be nice place to set your teacup or a coffee table book, but it was never meant to be used for thinking or writing.".....
Or for a good game of Buzhkashi!!... no?.. too flat,..... won't roll true?
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 12:54 PM
I'm curious if by pluralistic society does that include Jews and Christians in the area.
Posted by: boricuafudd | January 08, 2014 at 12:59 PM
8 Reasons Why Chris Christie's Traffic Scandal Could Cause Big Trouble
I had a head's up on this from a very VIP New Jersey friend during a phone call the other day. He told me Christie is toast. The long knives are out.
I still say neither he or Hillary are the nominees.
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 01:04 PM
"In the last 400 years, there have been 17 wars between the Persians and the Turks [who at that time controlled Iraq."
With the recent closer linkage between the KSA and Egypt due to the failure of the Clinton/Obama Arab Spring fiasco, it's interesting to look at the combined force inventory available for immediate use should the Arabs decide to return to their favorite pastime of killing Persians. I wouldn't put any money on the Persians.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 08, 2014 at 01:10 PM
Persian/Arab war?-- I don't see how either side has the logistics to attack the other with mech, infantry or even air assets. I do see a scenario of the Mullahs using a nuke to turn Mecca and Medina to glass, and expedite return of the 12th Imam (peace be upon him.)
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 01:17 PM
That's disturbing about Christie, JiB. If only for the fact the Maddow has made the traffic scandal her raison d'etre. Ugh.
Posted by: Beasts of England | January 08, 2014 at 01:25 PM
I said it before, when Christie was attacking Rand Paul over survaliiance, etc. - I will not vote for him if he's the Republican nominee.
This story is just further proof of what he is: a bully who's in love with the power of his office, who enjoys using it against people who are weaker than he is, and who surrounds himself with people who think and act the same.
Sorry, we've already got one of those in the White House; we don't need another one. Christie can go screw himself.
Posted by: James D. | January 08, 2014 at 01:32 PM
Considering there historic role in the region, not to mention their current status as a major regional power, it is interesting how Turkey is left out of the mix.
Posted by: Tom Maguire | January 08, 2014 at 01:34 PM
I'll add this: even if the traffic scandal is overblown, or Christie really didn't know about it, his personal history is still full of similar behavior.
Fine, he went after some unions, and he put some bad guys in jail as a prosecutor. He is still a big government guy who has little or no regard for individual freedom, and that is precisely what we do NOT need for our next President.
Posted by: James D. | January 08, 2014 at 01:34 PM
From JiB's link:
3) People only like bullies when they’re beating up bad guys.
A major part of Christie’s appeal among Republicans is his willingness to stick it to certain liberal special interest groups like public employees’ unions. Conservatives take comfort in knowing that one of their guys knows how to throw a punch. But nobody likes it when their own side starts getting beat up. Christie’s team didn’t just target a potential political opponent for revenge, they targeted his own voters. This incident could very well suggest to a lot of GOP primary voters that Christie’s brashness might have a big downside.
This is the downside of having a US Attorney in an elected position; like Client 9, Fat Boy is used to steamrolling people while realizing no negative consequences. Hopefully this blows him out of the water for 2016 now before the circular firing squad can commence.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 08, 2014 at 01:35 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/chris-christie-mitt-romney-birther-birth-certificate-joke-2012-8
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 01:37 PM
TM,
And outside of Israel, Turkey has the most professional, complete armed forces in the region. Plus they are Nato but going in the wrong direction under Erdogan.
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 01:38 PM
I used to respect Friedman's reporting from the Middle East. He had a good sense of the players and the dynamics.
He seems to have tossed it all aside in favor of "it's not Obama's fault".
The collapse in Iraq was foretold by the way we handled the negotiations with Maliki in the first place.
As Gates confirms, Obama simply wanted "out now". He didn't give a shit about the ramifications or aftereffects.
Hegemonism from Persia and further east is the central theme over the course of history. From Darius to the Mongols to Tamerlane, death and destruction came out of the East. Iran is backing subversives in the Gulf States, Syria, and Hezbollah and is shipping arms to the Palestinians.
This isn't done out of pan Islamic fervor. It is the way of empire.
That Obama has disengaged from Saudi and Israel so decisively is just one more rebuttal to Mr. Friedman's fantasy.
Posted by: matt | January 08, 2014 at 01:39 PM
Speaking of birth certificate:
http://phillygaylawyer.com/2014/01/06/n-j-trans-birth-certificate-bill-one-step-closer/
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 01:39 PM
For four centuries before WWI much of that region (not including Persia) was under the thumb of the Ottoman Turks.
Posted by: Danube on iPad | January 08, 2014 at 01:39 PM
The Turks-- Erdogan has hit some political bumps in the road to forming the new Caliphate-- still he may yet succeed in becoming a Turkish dictator and then Caliph to the Umma.
TomM-- BTW-- did you fill your Spin Class needs?
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 01:42 PM
Traffic jams caused by politics can nip a GOP campaign in the bud, but 4 dead Americans in Benghazi, no biggie to the Donks.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 08, 2014 at 01:42 PM
Dave @ 1:42 - you're right.
But the thing is, to the extent the traffic thing is true, it really does say a lot about Christie and the people who he surrounds himself with.
If he's petty and spiteful enough to disrupt traffic and make people's lives harder because the mayor of their town didn't endorse him in an election he knew he was going to win by 20 points anyway...is that really someone you want in charge of the NSA, the IRS, the Department of Justice and all the rest of it?
I certainly don't.
Posted by: James D. | January 08, 2014 at 01:47 PM
Gloria Borger on CNN sez that she is surprised that Gates brought the book out during Obama's Presidency, yet when Wolf Blitzer mentions that Hillary is bringing her own book out during Obama's Presidency there is no surprise, no response, no comment, no nothing from Borger.
Wolf and Borger also comment on how hard Gates went after Joe Biden, mentioning the "wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades," since in Borger's words, (which I think I got correctly), "Foreign Policy is Joe Biden's calling card!"
I have to go thru Newark and Seattle Airport's shortly so unfortunately I don't think that's the last time I'll be forced to watch CNN today.
Posted by: daddy | January 08, 2014 at 01:51 PM
Rush just reported a Hertiage report which stated that Means Tested transfer payments have totaled $21T since the War on Poverty began, 75% of that since the 90's. And the percentage of the population in poverty is the same as before.
Among other obvious reactions to that, but for that wasted spending, we would have zero national debt, lower taxes and many more jobs.
Thanks LBJ et al on both sides. Thanks a bunch.
On a smaller scale, I almost threw my G&T at the TV last night when Fox News reported in a Bret Beir special how unemployment is stubbornly high in some regions even though other regions were short of workers. Five minutes later they reported how the Senate had agreed to extend unemployment benefits practically to a permanent status. NOBODY on Fox saw the gallows humor in connecting those two stories.
We are doomed by our collective stupidity.
Posted by: Old Lurker | January 08, 2014 at 01:53 PM
Yeah, you wouldn't want a petty and spiteful man in charge of the NSA, IRS & DOJ. :^)
If I'm picking the teams, Christie's my press secretary for the next R President.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 08, 2014 at 01:54 PM
I suspect this is just one of many similar Christie stories. He isn't conservative and he isn't principled. Even if he knows how to get things done in NJ, this is just not going to sell to either GOP primary voters or to the rest of the country.
I do wonder why it's coming out now, though. Why didn't it leak during his re-election campaign? Or why not sit on it until he gets closer to the nomination? Are they that afraid of him?
Posted by: Porchlight | January 08, 2014 at 01:54 PM
I wouldn't be sorry to see Christie taken out early. It might encourage more good candidates to enter the fray.
At this point, I think I'd go with Rick Perry.
Posted by: Extraneus | January 08, 2014 at 01:55 PM
Buzkashi
I thought it was "Benghazi" played with the heads of . . .
No. That humor is too black. :-(
Posted by: sbwaters | January 08, 2014 at 01:56 PM
in Borger's words, (which I think I got correctly), "Foreign Policy is Joe Biden's calling card!"
She says that like a bobblehead who has sat through Biden's insanity with nary a contrary thought.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 08, 2014 at 01:57 PM
Careful there, Dave. I recall the WH Press Room is built over the old Nixon swimming pool. You'd better get the engineers in there to check the load limits of the temporary floor.
Posted by: Old Lurker | January 08, 2014 at 01:58 PM
DaveinMa-- furthering your point. Where is the NYT local reportage regarding Warren Wilhelm kicking hundreds of working men and women (drivers, horse stall cleaners, metal workers, leather workers etc) out of work and crushing the joy of hundreds of thousand of people each year who take a park carriage ride, so as to enrich a parking lot baron in a real estate play, as a naked kick back for running adverts against Quinn in the primary?
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 02:00 PM
Or why not sit on it until he gets closer to the nomination? Are they that afraid of him?
I was wondering that, too. Maybe they're so depressed over Obama's performance that they just can't help themselves from moving on to the next campaign.
Hopefully they're convinced that Hillary can beat any conservative, but would have trouble with a moderate Republican opponent.
Posted by: Extraneus | January 08, 2014 at 02:02 PM
Are they that afraid of him?
For all of his disqualifying traits, he's a dogged campaigner who isn't afraid to get in peoples' faces, including moderators who are asking obviously leading questions. Unlike Romney or McRINO, he'd have put the JEF on the defensive many times and probably produced some surprising reactions.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 08, 2014 at 02:03 PM
Christie for Atty Gen in the Walker Admin!! Christie is a blowhard and a bully, but if he's OUR blowhard and bully going after corrupt Prog unions and Dem cronies... I'm all for that.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 02:03 PM
Why is it coming out now? Anything to change the topic from Obamacare / Iraq /Afghanistan / Gates' book and return it to normal Republican bashing in the run up to November. They can always recycle it for 2016 anyway.
Posted by: henry | January 08, 2014 at 02:03 PM
I heard from anonymous but unimpeachable sources that Biden's foreign policy calling card contains the slogan no one's home. You would think a sleuth like Borger might have picked that up.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet | January 08, 2014 at 02:04 PM
Christie vs. Shrillary? Jeez, the battle of whose got the bigger ass? Or just who IS the bigger ass?
Kill me now.
Posted by: lyle | January 08, 2014 at 02:08 PM
And the percentage of the population in poverty is the same as before.
True but the definition of "in poverty" has changed. Today's poor are vastly better off than their counterparts were 50 years ago. Absolute poverty has largely been eradicated and we are now talking about relative poverty, where the average "poor" person owns a TV, a cell phone with a service contract, a car, plenty of clothing, has heat and air conditioning and a full kitchen yet eats mostly fast food and takeout and processed foods from the grocery store.
So in some ways it has ended in victory - though the war department clamors for ever more entitlements and funds with which to purchase votes - but at a great financial and moral cost.
The impact on American society of the "unintended" consequences of the war on poverty which include but are not limited to millions of abortions, the destruction of marriage and the nuclear family, 50% of births out of wedlock and generations of young men growing up without fathers, all of which are still snowballing phenomena, have yet to be fully felt. They will be devastating, possibly terminal.
Posted by: Porchlight | January 08, 2014 at 02:12 PM
Biden is a barely functioning retard. That the dims hold out as some FP guru just shows how little they care about it in the first place.
Posted by: lyle | January 08, 2014 at 02:12 PM
Another one (and a lot more) bite the dust.
McIntyre of NC and Maloney of NY to retire
Plus Matheson (Mia Love, you go, girl!) and a few others in the mix.
McIntyre is already in the Rep column. Maloney is a tougher ticket to punch. Is she your district, Peter?
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 02:13 PM
Henry,
Agreed. Minitru needs more squirrels. Chipmunks will do and they'll go for a gerbil in a pinch.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 08, 2014 at 02:14 PM
I think it's natural that as Christie appears more and more to be a serious presidential candidate there will be more and more stuff unearthed.
Posted by: Danube on iPad | January 08, 2014 at 02:16 PM
Where is the NYT local reportage regarding...
Yep NK,
From Ext's link:
In the documents, obtained by The New York Times and other news outlets Wednesday about the road closings in Jersey---
How come the Times is able to get documents and E-mails and all this other stuff super quick when the target is a guy with an R behind his name, but they can't seem to find a shred of paperwork when it's IRS-Gate, or Benghazi-Gate, or Climate-Gate, or Fast and Furious Gate, or any other damn Gate that might effect adversely on a guy with a D behind his name?
Posted by: daddy | January 08, 2014 at 02:16 PM
Greg Maddox (natch), Tom Glavine and Frank Thomas voted into the Baseball HOF.
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 02:16 PM
Thanks all, that scenario, NK laid out, a nuclear conflict between then the Shah and the Saudis was in an old Paul Erdman potboiler, 'the Last Days of America' in 1975!. back then it was describing the early days of the Iranian nuclear program,
Re; Biden, one of the things that Hitchens was very keen on, was that partition was a very bad idea, of course no one told Peter Galbraith, who was Biden's tutor on the subject, or told him that there might an ulterior motive with the former pushing that position re the Kurds.
As for Stay Puft, that anecdote is very near beer, compared to standing up for Imam Rauf, throwing Schundler to the wolves, not taking a stand on Obamacare, and being for the panopticon system of surveillance,
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 02:17 PM
In Westeros, some Houses have privilege and others have not, Gates is a mere knight to the House of Lannister, so he has none, fed to the dragons, is he, the rules don't work the same, for the Dutchess of Little Rock
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 02:22 PM
State controlled media, daddy. But then you knew that.
Posted by: lyle | January 08, 2014 at 02:24 PM
http://therightscoop.com/awesome-mark-levin-brilliantly-lays-out-scenario-of-how-to-fight-obama-on-the-economy/
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 02:26 PM
Interestingly, it was the original Mohammed Ali, who bottled up the Wahhabis back in the Nejd after their first incursion into Mesopotamia. they came back after 50 years because of a rivalry between princes not much came of it. that was the era that Doughty visited the peninsula. and observed those interesting insights about the local tribes.
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 02:31 PM
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2014/01/coakley_patrick_eye_legal_action_against_obamacare_website_firm
Mini-Me and Marsha won't rule out taking legal action against CGI. They won't rule it in, either.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) (on a MAC, yuk) | January 08, 2014 at 02:32 PM
Around here, that's "Billerica's Tom Glavine".
Posted by: Dave (in MA) (on a MAC, yuk) | January 08, 2014 at 02:33 PM
Welcome to the dark-side, Dave:)
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 02:34 PM
Of course, someone like the Amiraults are fair game, but perching on the spoils of a House retainer, something else again,
Posted by: narciso | January 08, 2014 at 02:36 PM
JIB, only once in a while.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 08, 2014 at 02:39 PM
Anyone watching McConnell speak?
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 02:44 PM
It's a variation on the joke about 1/2 the population being below average.
Well, when you define "poverty" as the bottom X% of the wealth distribution, then the percentage of the population in "poverty" is exactly X%. All the time.Posted by: cathyf | January 08, 2014 at 02:49 PM
Why is the story on Christie coming out now, rather than closer to the 2016 elections?
Could it be a pre-emptive release by CC so that by 2016 it will be old news? It has worked before, JEF used it when referring to the Mexican gun running and other things.
It might also explain why the e-mails and documentation are so easily available.
Posted by: boricuafudd | January 08, 2014 at 02:50 PM
Happy Birthday Elvis, wherever you are!
This calls for Butter-grilled Peanut Butter and Banana sandwiches tonight:)
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 02:52 PM
Lets not forget that without poverty there could be no subsidies under ObamaCare. Got to start somewhere.
Posted by: JIB | January 08, 2014 at 02:54 PM
An Indiana National Guardsman was arrested outside Columbus on New Year’s Day after a state trooper found nearly 50 bombs and the blueprints for a Navy SEAL training facility inside his car, the Madison County prosecutor said yesterday.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/01/07/man-stopped-for-speeding-had-48-bombs.html
Cop pulled him over for speeding. I am certain the NSA only needed a little more metadata before they could have swooped in.
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 02:56 PM
How did the Ahia cops know to stop THAT PARTICULAR speeder.In the era of Big/Meta Data there are no coincidences.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 03:00 PM
Speaking of the dark side...
Gretchen Carlson just had a segment on brand new Children's Interactive Pajamas.
Apparently multiple stories are embedded in your kids PJ's, and you wave a Smart phone over a collection of dots on a particular location such as your elbow, and up pops a story that you read on your I-phone together:
On the plus side, this would be excellent for Pajama Boy:
He could have his cocoa, and then let his Jammies tell him all about ObamaCare, without bothering any of the rest of us.
On the minus side, he'd have to know his ass from his elbow.
Posted by: daddy | January 08, 2014 at 03:02 PM
...after a state trooper found nearly 50 bombs and the blueprints for a Navy SEAL training facility inside his car...
TK, Under this administration I'm surprised they didn't let him go.
Posted by: daddy | January 08, 2014 at 03:05 PM
All I want to know is which TP chapter he belongs to.
Posted by: boricuafudd | January 08, 2014 at 03:07 PM
"This calls for Butter-grilled Peanut Butter and Banana sandwiches tonight:)"
On the menu at our house. Possibly some will also have bacon, though it is unorthodox.
Our girls call it "Elvis Day." They don't care much about Elvis - they just love the sandwiches.
Posted by: Porchlight | January 08, 2014 at 03:08 PM
It might also explain why the e-mails and documentation are so easily available.
boricuafudd,
Could be. But that would mean that Christie is burning his own staff. Not nice.
Posted by: Porchlight | January 08, 2014 at 03:09 PM
Shep seems very happy today to be reporting the news about the E-mails showing that Christie's Staff new about the punishment road closures. I don't believe I've seen such a Cheshire Cat grin on his face in a long, long time.
Posted by: daddy | January 08, 2014 at 03:11 PM
Daddy-- of course they arrested him, he's an old white guy.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 03:13 PM
"Today's poor are vastly better off than their counterparts were 50 years ago."
And most of them would be considered wealyhy in much of the rest of the world.
Posted by: Danube on iPad | January 08, 2014 at 03:14 PM
With all those bombs he could be an advisor or an autobiographer to a future president. Let's take a look:
Hmm... An organizer; maybe even some feather-passing in his past.http://www.skillpages.com/andrew.boguslawski
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 08, 2014 at 03:16 PM
The liberals in Maine love Christie. He and other GOP governors who expanded Medicaid were praised today at a rally in Augusta urging Lepage and moderate legislators to expand Medicaid.The Maine People's Alliance and other liberal advocacy groups sponsored the event.Children were holding signs saying "health care is a right."
Posted by: Marlene | January 08, 2014 at 03:19 PM
Dave,have you heard any updates about Jeff Jacoby's son? Howie hasn't mentioned it.
Posted by: Marlene | January 08, 2014 at 03:24 PM
38 degrees at the lake - I got the wet stuff!
Showered, shaved and ready!
Posted by: Beasts of England | January 08, 2014 at 03:26 PM
Hmm... An organizer; maybe even some feather-passing in his past.
If only he'd had interactive pajama's I'm sure none of this would have happened.
Jeff Jacoby's son?
Reminds me sadly of Michelle Malkin's niece who disappeared a couple years back on the University of Washington campus.
Posted by: daddy | January 08, 2014 at 03:31 PM
Porch
Agreed, but it would not be the first time, staffers are sacrified for their leaders.
Plus a cushy job somewhere else, can take away the sting. :(
Posted by: boricuafudd | January 08, 2014 at 03:39 PM
My friend in NJ says this is payback for the lane closure stunt and that the suits in Ft. Lee are plenty pissed, not just the Dems but the Repubs.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | January 08, 2014 at 03:43 PM
Forgot: There is evidently a letter from the agrieved mayor that set the whole thing in motion.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | January 08, 2014 at 03:45 PM
Specter:
My prayers for your son to keep him safe.
Gates tells it like it is and another nail goes into the coffin of a Hillary 2016 campaign. I don't yet believe that all of the people could be fooled again into voting in an opportunistic baggage laden harridan as the next president. Surely 8 years of Obama has taught the masses never to trust a prog and anti-american person to lead us into the future. My guess is after the thumping of the midterms -Kerry will be the only dem dumb enough to try to win the White House in 2016.
Posted by: maryrose | January 08, 2014 at 03:50 PM
Marlene, all I know is something Clarice shared on FB yesterday.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 08, 2014 at 03:52 PM
TSK9:
We miss you. Please post more often as we love your comments!
Posted by: maryrose | January 08, 2014 at 03:52 PM
wave a Smart phone over a collection of dots on a particular location
I do not wish to know where pajama boy's dot collection is located.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kQTqSPqpE4
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 08, 2014 at 04:25 PM
For you weather/climate buffs out there, delicious stuff from Delingpole: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100253377/global-warming-devastates-america/
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 08, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Christie issued statement but I can't C&P.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | January 08, 2014 at 04:36 PM
This is not an excerpt. It's the whole article.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 08, 2014 at 04:48 PM
Ben Domenech tweets:
RT @DavidMDrucker: The Jersey thing for CC to do would have been to say: Yeah, I did it; what are you going to do about it. F you.
A statement via release. No presser. Who prepared his previous presser of denial? What did he know and when did he know it?
This is not going away soon.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | January 08, 2014 at 04:49 PM
Washington Times on CC and GWB lane closure statement.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | January 08, 2014 at 04:56 PM
My main problem with Christie isn't that he just acted like a typical liberal politician (i.e., an overprivileged thug) . . . it's that he's no conservative.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | January 08, 2014 at 04:59 PM