Good News If They're Drinking To Forget...

From the AP:

Drinking linked to faster mental decline in men

NEW YORK (AP) — Middle-aged men risk a faster mental decline as they age if they've been drinking heavily for years, new research suggests.

The study of about 5,000 British civil servants found that over a decade, the added decline was the equivalent of about two extra years of aging for a combined measure of mental abilities like reasoning, and about six years for memory. The heavy drinkers' abilities were compared to those of men who drank moderately or abstained.

But did they control for this?

Coffee as a Memory Booster

By NICHOLAS BAKALAR

In addition to its other well-known effects, a cup of coffee might improve your memory...

 

Comments

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Well TomM-- spill-- which category do you fit into? or both?

PS: Spinning at Darien tonight, 630pm!

[Dave (in MA)]

The Searchlight Pederast wants to know why he can always smell poop.
link

[Jane-Rebel Alliance1]

Do you meet up with TM, NK or is this just an ongoing invitation?

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Nah-- never met the man.

He inquired about local spinning classes last week.

[Cecil Turner]

The study of about 5,000 British civil servants . . .

I'm going to need some better evidence on the control group. Because I'm having a hard time believing any of this lot stayed sober long enough to qualify.

Alternate theory: men who lie about their drinking " risk a faster mental decline " . . .

[Jack is Back! (Instigator-in-Chief)]

Half the MPs during PMQ are tanked. Anyone who has ever lived in London know about the "drinks" problem. But it's fast getting under control now that the Muzzies have basically taken over.

[jimmyk]

How is "heavily" defined?

Maybe this explains why hit has been off on a few birthdays recently....

[Jeff Dobbs]

jimmyk:
Maybe this explains why hit has been off on a few birthdays recently....

Nooooo, I'm pretty sure it's the global warming induced hypothermia.

My biggest problem is after a few beers trying to remember, "was that number 8 or number 9?"

That's why I keep the beer tabs in my pocket.

[jimmyk]

My memory ain't what it was, and I wish I could blame heavy drinking for it. The good thing about it is that I can rewatch a movie a few years later that I know I liked the first time, and it's like watching it for the first time. Same for books.

[JIB (in Typhus hell)]

This thread reminded me that I had not made a good vodka martini (sic) in a while. Thanks, TM. I am now sitting by a going fire (we are 52F in the Sunshine State today) with a nice 3 olive glass of pure Grey Goose beside me:)

JOM really is a wonderful experience.

[clarice feldman]

Ditto,jimmyk..maybe senile dementia isn't as bad as it's made out to be.

[Old Lurker]

I'm still chuckling at DoT's answer when his doctor asks how many drinks per day he has.

Between zero and 11. It depends.

[Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself]

Hah! Same for me, jimmyk. And I drink tons of coffee....

Tom's clip from the AP article doesn't say WHAT the guys were drinking. Water? Hawaiian Punch? Everclear? Yoo-hoo?

[Old Lurker]

Wife reports the following conversation from her book club today (old ladies, all):

Guest: Oh Mrs. L you are going to have so much fun being a grandmother. It is the ONLY good thing about being old.

Mrs.L: Really? The ONLY thing?

Guest: Really, name one other thing.

Mrs. L: Cocktail Hour.

[daddy]

In my business we generally all drink like fish.

What I notice as a truism is that back when we were in the right seat (not yet Captains) we would generally remember the name of the Captain. Month's after the flight we'd remember his name and who he was and where we went. We just did.

But once you become the Captain, it becomes very difficult to remember the name of the guy in the right seat (the co-pilot) that you flew with just last week. We just don't.

We can remember their faces, and after we're reminded of when and where, we can recall where we flew and where we toured and ate and drank together. But except for remembering the guys who tried to kill us, it just seems that the Left seat can't remember much about the guy in the right seat, especially his name.

For me personally, if the guys sez, "You were reading a book on so and so at the time," that also usually sets off a lightbulb and I can remember immediately where we were.

So thats for the slighter longer term memory.

As for the short term memory, I am constantly amazed at how I am able to remember whatever hotel room I'm in. I just did my PFD application and I was gone from home 170 days in 2013. All those days were in some hotel, most only for 24 hours maximum, so we're swapping hotels like musical chairs. I am amazed how after a hard night pounding the Guinness I am able to somehow make it back to the hotel and figure out which room I checked into just a couple hours ago. The thing I have absolutely no idea about on the road anymore, is what day of the week it is.

[maryrose]

daddy:
You have a guardian angel and you know God watches over those who drink and little children.

[Porchlight]

This reminds me of that WKRP In Cincinnati episode where Johnny Fever's reaction time gets faster and faster the more he drinks.

[Extraneus]

Well that explains why my sudoku times have taken a turn for the worse.

[only useful when we want war]

I think the lil brown jug the House sucks on should be smashed.

$1.1 trillion and you cut benefits for Vets?

Give Dems the House. Their short-term memories are less impaired.

[JIB (in Typhus hell)]

There are only two people here who use ghosted slogans as names in their postings. One is Kim who I would trust with my Florida snowman and then there is (drum roll) the Pitzer Putz. He's not TBT but he is verging on the same idioticy and irrelevance.

[Frau Karpfen]

Oh, Porch, I loved KARP and that was a long time before hanging out on JOM where carp is fast and furious.

[narciso]

Speaking of drinking heavily;

http://therightscoop.com/joe-biden-to-ford-thanks-for-saving-our-ass/

[JIB (in Typhus hell)]

narciso,

What are we going to do when Joe is no longer with us?

Me? I am going to cry. No one ever in politics that i know of has provided so much entertainment and joy. And he thinks he is speaking power to truth and vice versa. Even his Phd. wife and educated son refuse to tell him how stupid he really appears.

[narciso]

well the joke is on us, jiB, this scam has worked for them,

[Truthbetold]

Does this comment board know who Nadhmi Auchi is?

[narciso]

Taranto points out the brilliance of Puffington Hosters;

In the new survey, 45 percent of Americans said the First Amendment does not allow people to be fired from a job for expressing their views, while only 36 percent said such firings are allowed under the Constitution. Twenty percent said they weren't sure.

Now of course they didn't allow for the nuances, like when corporations, endorse authorized government dictat;

[boatbuilder]

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/AlcoholAndHealth.html#.UtiIvqMo7IU
Health

Moderate drinkers tend to have better health and live longer than those who are either abstainers or heavy drinkers. In addition to having fewer heart attacks and strokes, moderate consumers of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine and distilled spirits or liquor) are generally less likely to suffer strokes, diabetes, arthritis, enlarged prostate, dementia (including Alzheimer's disease), and several major cancers...

You can have your study, I'll have mine.
(And they use the Canadian definition of "moderate"--4 drinks at a time for men, 3 for women).

Stay thirsty, my friends!

[sbwaters]

Tbt. Coals. Newcastle. Gauche.

[narciso]

So kind of counterintuitive;

"A study across the Texas Panhandle, using government statistics from 16 counties, found that the teen pregnancy rates among 13-17-year olds from 1994 through 2010 showed dramatic declines even as Planned Parenthood Federation of America facilities in the region shut down--dwindling from 19 family planning facilities to zero."--Paul Rondeau, LifeNews.com, Jan. 15

[sbwaters]

Tbt. A bit of helpful advice. Try not to make every post accusative. Try not to make them a test, as if you know everything and the commenters here know nothing.

Commenters here are, for the most part, quite a humble lot, and each will concede how much they learn from others.

[Captain Hate]

Tammy Bruce is whaling on the Senate, including McRINO and Miss Lindsey, for grandstanding on the Benghazi report while still not holding anybody responsible.

[Truthbetold]

sbw

Are you a fan of Nadhmi Auchi?

[narciso]

Taranto, linked this piece,

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/16/misinformation_disinformation_lies_can_the_new_york_times_foreign_coverage_be_trusted_at_all/

from someone who apparently is unaware of Herbert Matthews, Ray Bonner, or David Halberstam

[Rob Crawford]

Are you a fan of Nadhmi Auchi?

Not really -- his singing voice has gone to seed, and his lyrics have gotten repetitive over the years.

[narciso]

Next question;

http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/politics/obamas_auchi_problem.php

yes, it's groundbreaking in the admission that water is wet, and some other details, but it's underwhelming, I put together a better product
a year and a half ago

[Truthbetold]

sbw

What were you saying about coal to Newcastle? RC@8:55

[Rob Crawford]

Dana, I answered with a joke because I don't give a rat's ass about whatever obsession you want to foist on us. Go somewhere where people care.

[Ignatz]

--Does this comment board know who Nadhmi Auchi is?--

We're more interested in who you are.
Enlighten us.

[Rob Crawford]

And before you start the bleating -- YOU EARNED MY CONTEMPT. You WORKED for it, for more than a decade.

Soak in it, because it's deserved.

[An insinuating tease.]

Tbt ain't Dana, but he's not very forthcoming.

[Wussup?]

Whoa, no comments for five hours?

[Dave (in MA)]

HASH

[They are making a hash of it.]

Hiya, Dave. I assume the board's been down. Must be the NSA going after the 'Truth'.

[Extraneus]

Are you a fan of Nadhmi Auchi?

Cue the Jaws music every time Sibel's mom asks another question.

[narciso]

Trying again

[clarice feldman]

test

[Steve]

SUPER BOWL 2014 COMMERCIAL: Thank You Ted Cruz

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2014/01/super-bowl-2014-commercial-thank-you.html

[narciso]

In the odds and ends department;

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alex-rodriguez-ready-to-rest-calls-suspension-a-favor/

[centralcal]

Are comments working again?

[narciso]

I thought it was just me,

[sbwaters]

testing one, two, three...

Audio people never say "four".

[Marlene]

The comments are working on this thread,but not the other one?

[sbwaters]

Perhaps someone from the NSA could explain what "Not a Hash reference" means in TyphusSpeak.

I know what a hash code is but I don't know how it is used in the Typhus hinterlands after one presses "Post".

[narciso]

Serves me right, for reading for the Book, so it's a mad mad world, when Sy Hersh might be partially right, re the Syrian gas plot

[narciso]

Meanwhile Volodya doesn't think Bashir isn't going anywhere, otherwise they wouldn't have done the natural gas deal with him,

[narciso]

And we're giving a visa, to the Jordanian version of Sheikh Rahman, sans the Santa hat.

[Captain Hate]

Levin says the Repubs should boycott the State of the Union address and hold their own where they point out the post Constitutional nature of what the country's become. Somehow that's the type of "thinking outside the box" that Top Men claim to be open to but never really want to hear.

[narciso]

Were you in the phantom zone too, Captain,

[Captain Hate]

Oh yes; I tried posting that when I first heard it and got the error message.

[JIB (in Typhus hell)]

Howdy, neighbor!

This is a test of the JOM emergency broadcast network.

[Account Deleted]

Bloomberg does its part: Extreme Weather Wreaking Havoc on Food

I liked this SkyDragon indicator

Record harvests from India to Brazil to the U.S. expanded supply and sent corn, soybeans, wheat, sugar and coffee into markets where prices were falling. The Standard & Poor’s GSCI Agriculture Index of eight crops tumbled 22 percent last year, the biggest annual drop since 1981. The gauge is down 0.8 percent in 2014.

especially when matched with this one

While the percentage of the world’s people who go hungry has fallen to 12 percent last year from 19 percent in 1992, and food inflation is ebbing, farming is vulnerable to the extreme weather that comes with climate change, according to the UN.

Apparently, we're supposed to be terrified of the SkyDragon causing food prices to fall and hunger to diminish. The UN Climatecommies are no longer stuck on stupid. They are now seamlessly welded to stupid.

[pagar]

Well the test seems to work.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

JiB and other fans of London may be interested in these 1920s color photos and side by side today: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540751/London-Amazing-comparison-capital-1927-today.html

[rse]

Rick-if you talk to young eople who go to NYC to get a job they all seem to know someone who works at the UN. Apparently no one pays better or has better benefits. Stuck on stupid in promotion of the Anthropocene is ridiculously lucrative.

And it is largely our money.

[Account Deleted]

If you'd like an update on reality regarding the SkyDragon, take a couple of minutes to read Dr. Judith Curry's prepared remarks for yesterday's Senate hearing on BOzo's Watermelon Proposals. It makes a nice counterbalance to Bloomberg's shrieking and totally baseless hysterical propaganda.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

RickB-- the Bloomberg report (stupidity aside) is fascinating because food affordability continues to improve in developing nations even though BenB Dollar debasement 2008-to date exported huge fuel,fertilizer and food commodity inflation to developing countries based on the Dollar valuation of many commodities (primarily crude oil). US consumers also have taken a huge fuel/food affordability hit, IMO that's one of the 2 major reasons for poor GDP and jobs performance, ObummerCare being the other. IF--IF-- the USA somehow avoids national bamkruptcy and stabilizes the Dollar (of the USA goes bankrupt and the World moves on to different commodity currencies) food affordability shouldimprove further worldwide.

[**Bill in AZ**]

daddy: The thing I have absolutely no idea about on the road anymore, is what day of the week it is.

heh - back when I was travelling a *lot* I dozed off in a rental car shuttle in Austin or somewhere, and when the shuttle stopped I couldn't remember whether I needed to get a car or get on a plane.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Judith Curry-- I give her a lot of credit. She was a 'convinced' warmista, but she kept an open mind and followed the data... the data have debunked IPCC and Gore. Now she's a lukewarmist (the physics are sound but the ultimate effect of CO2 may be modest (2F temp increase from doubling CO2 concentration) therefore CO2 maybe even beneficial.

[Ignatz]

The C in CAGW is like a reverse Whimpy effect; if only we'll pay them today they promise to deliver us some catastrophe on a next Tuesday which never comes.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Greg Pollowitz...

January 17, 1998 is the day Matt Drudge first teased that Newsweek was sitting on the Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky story. Drudge is still going strong; Newsweek . . . not so much.

[cindyk]

For the first time ever, I contemplated giving money to a panhandler yesterday in downtown Denver. Instead of the non-original signage, "Will work, for food", his said NEED VODKA AND CIGARETTES! (complete with a smiley face). If I hadn't been three lanes over, I would have given him a buck for honesty!

[Enjoy the Holocene while you can.]

Yes, NK, a point I've been hammering on the climate blogs for years. We probably can't possibly do more than two doublings of CO2, for perhaps 3 degrees F.

Basically, attempting to mitigate the CO2 rise will cause massive economic and social failure for very little response on the temperature end.

And, a phrase I'm quite fond of: A warmer world sustains more total life and more diversity of life.

[narciso]

Well Eli Lake, is still good, and O'Rourke is amusing, but that has nothing to do with the Daily Basilisk.

[Ignatz]

Tom Coburn to retire.

[Ignatz]

LOL, cindyK.

[Threadkiller]

We have to wait until April to celebrate the anniversary of Drudge promoting birthers and their theories...

Here is a flashback of althouse whining about it:

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/04/drudge-goes-all-out-promoting-jerome.html?m=1

[Account Deleted]

NK,

I give her some credit for acknowledging reality and finally beginning to focus on trying to find the error bands of natural variability. She was right in there with every other Professor Featherpasser of Whackadoodle U. pimping the SkyDragon as directed by the UN Climatecommies when it looked like it had a good long term pay off.

The Great OPM Famine is what is really killing off the SkyDragon nonsense. Natural variability is speeding the demise but lack of OPM is what will finally kill it.

Maybe.

[Ignatz]

Jeepers,
Harvey Weinstein and Meryl Streep are going to make the NRA "wish they weren't alive after he's done with them".

He does however think guns have a place. If genocide is occurring then people should pick them up to defend themselves when they rain down from heaven after his ilk have confiscated them.

Also, the producer said he would have used a gun to stop from going to a concentration camp if he “found a gun, and if that was happening to my people.”

Somehow I'm kind of doubting the NRA has much to fear from such a colossally imbecilic ass.

[Ignatz]

Yes Rick, but even from the start she was willing to engage with Steve McIntyre and others on his own blog seriously, rather than dismissing them, and to her credit endured a great deal of pressure from the Manns and Briffas of the world even then as some form of apostate or traitor for even speaking to them.

[Ignatz]

And I'm out the door.

[narciso]

True, groveling gets you so far, even picking Posner, as their special correspondent, Volodya picked Snufflelafagus over NBC.

[Dave (in MA)]

He's already made a movie that would cause me to have that wish if I somehow found myself in a theater watching it.

[Jeff Dobbs]

EtHwhyc:
And, a phrase I'm quite fond of: A warmer world sustains more total life and more diversity of life.

Speaking of fond phrases, I am interminably curious whether kim ever figured out how long we are cooling...

[You lays your money down and you takes your chances.]

Judy has had a fascinating evolution of her thinking. She and Marcia Wyatt have a paper on the 'Stadium Wave' on the basis of which she doesn't believe the globe is warming for another two decades.

Her war is with the false confidence the IPCC has in catastrophe.

Anthropogenic Global Warming is probably real, though the effect may be small. It is the catastrophic part which is wrong.

It can already be demonstrated that the plant fertilizing effect of AnthroCO2 has had a large beneficial effect. It is my contention that the warming effect of AnthroCO2 will also be beneficial.

The beneficial effect of the last few degrees of warming are widespread, massive, and easily demonstrable. The beneficial effect of the next few degrees of warming will be similar, if we do not fall for the fear and guilt pushed by the shamans.

That said, we are now cooling; for how long no one knows.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

'That said, we are now cooling'

according to what data?

[Jeff Dobbs]

Filed under P-shops my attention span prevents me from doing.

You saw Obama's recent declaration, regarding going around Congress?

"I've got a pen, and I've got a phone."

I was going to put Obama in this pic . . . with a pen and a phone:

Well I'm gonna to go then! And I don't need any of this. I don't need this stuff, and I don't need *you*. I don't need anything. Except this.
::picks up pen::
And that's the only thing I need. I don't need this or this. Just this pen... And this phone. - The pen and the phone and that's all I need... I don't need one other thing, not one... Oooh, I need this. - The pen and the phone, and my Nobel prize for sure. Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! That's all I need.
::walks outside::
And I don't need one other thing, except my dog.
::Bo growls at Obama::
I don't need my dog.

[JIB (in Typhus hell)]

"Jeepers,
Harvey Weinstein and Meryl Streep are going to make the NRA "wish they weren't alive after he's done with them".

I understand that as a result of this idiotic statement they had to shut down I-66 because of road buckling due to the intensity of out loud laughter originating from a buildinf off Waples Mill Road in Fairfax:)

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

JiB-- of course that fat fuck weinstein makes those kinds of statements for his lib audience, not real people.

[daddy]

Merde happens.

[Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself]

What is the picture, hit? Castaway? a pen, a phone, a Nobel prize & a volleyball.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Daddy-- thnks for that link. Give that Frenchman the Croix de Merde. I hope some USA patriots with access to cow dung dump a load in front of alleged pederast harry reid's office... check that... on harry reid's office.... double check... on harry reid's person.

[Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself]

Grizzly Man? a pen, a phone, a Nobel prize & someone to dig the grave.

[Thomas Collins]

I wonder whether Harvey Weinstein realizes that the NRA is probably going to use his statement to raise funds. Harvey may become a top fundraiser for the NRA. Good job, Harvey!

[Thomas Collins]

If only Harvey had made a movie about the horrors of real light bulbs before Congress passed the ban. The ban probably wouldn't have been passed.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Oh, can't link that pic? Sorry.

Steve Martin in The Jerk. That's where the quote is from too, adjusted for Obama of course.

[Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself]

♪ ♫"And they go... poo yip poo yip poo
poodi hoo di yip poo di yip poo
poo yip poo yip poo
poodi hoo di yip poo di yip poo" ♫ ♪

[maryrose]

Harvey weinstein believes he is a player ever since his financed "Shakespeare in Love won an Oscar for Best Picture.
Gag me with a spoon now that my 2 least favorite and to my mind over-rated actresses have been nominated this year.
The over-hyped jula Roberts and the media darling Meryl Streep.Recently saw "Sophie's Choice on ION tv and wasn't as impressed as I initially was at the time. In August Osage Moon she plays a foul=mouth witch of a mother with cancer.
She has plowed this field previously with Renee Zellweger and William Hurt only in that one she was a nice mother. I now believe weinstein's money secured her nomination. Meanwhile Robert Redford ,who should have won for "The Sting" in 1973 goes unrecognized.
I have to admit I was Happy with the Golden Globes-shut out sor Streep and Roberts and like Diane Keaton accepting for Woody.

[Jane]

That's hysterical Daddy, and well deserved. It's not like the people weren't warned against him.

[maryrose]

Too many spelling errors to correct-I need more coffee.

[maryrose]

Jane:
Glad you got a break from the cold in Florida.
Our weather in Ohio is lovely right now. January thaw . Next week the cold will return with a vengeance.