Ari Fleischer talks up marriage as the panacea to push back against income inequality:
How to Fight Income Inequality: Get Married
In families headed by married couples, the poverty level in 2012 was just 7.5%. Those with a single mother: 33.9%.
By Ari Fleischer Jan. 12, 2014 6:07 p.m. ET
If President Obama wants to reduce income inequality, he should focus less on redistributing income and more on fighting a major cause of modern poverty: the breakdown of the family. A man mostly raised by a single mother and his grandparents who defied the odds to become president of the United States is just the person to take up the cause.
"Marriage inequality" should be at the center of any discussion of why some Americans prosper and others don't. According to Census Bureau information analyzed by the Beverly LaHaye Institute, among families headed by two married parents in 2012, just 7.5% lived in poverty. By contrast, when families are headed by a single mother the poverty level jumps to 33.9%.
And the number of children raised in female-headed families is growing throughout America. A 2012 study by the Heritage Foundation found that 28.6% of children born to a white mother were out of wedlock. For Hispanics, the figure was 52.5% and for African-Americans 72.3%. In 1964, when the war on poverty began, almost everyone was born in a family with two married parents: only 7% were not.
To which I say "Yes, but" and "Furthermore".
First, these statistics don't separate correlation and causation. Maybe men and women inclined to get married are also more competent at other indicators of planning ability and impulse control, and hence more capable of achieving a higher educational and vocational status.
Furthermore, Obama, or at least ObamaCare, is at war with working class marriage. Given the structure of available subsidies relative to marital status, a middle-income couple with a stay-at-home spouse really owes it to their children to get a divorce.
And the Obamacare subsidies impose a noticiable marriage penalty on two-income couples as well. For example, imagine two 30 year old non-smoking spouses both earning $30,000 per year, with two kids. Per this Kaiser Permanente subsidy estimator and using national averages, this family of four is eligible for annual health insurance subsidies of $4,061.
But now suppose they run the numbers, get a divorce and each takes custody of one child. An adult with one child earning $30,000 per year is eligible for subsidies of $2,688 per year; multiply that by two and our divorced "family" is collecting $5,376 in subsidies, an increase of $1,315 per year. That may not be enough to prompt a divorce but it certainly might prompt a couple thinking about tying the knot to live together in unwedded but more heavily subsidized bliss.
In short, Obama is paying low and middle-income people more if they avoid marriage. Is this really sound social policy? I would guess not. But it is politics as usual for the party that thinks a woman's most meaningful long term relationship is with the state.
Obama wants to get equality by his usual method of sinking all boats while ignoring what the tides are up to.
Posted by: henry | January 13, 2014 at 10:27 AM
A man mostly raised by a single mother and his grandparents who defied the odds to become president of the United States is just the person to take up the cause.
Who better to tell the women of America that their children will be better off with a father than a man raised without a father who nonetheless achieved spectacular fame and fortune?
Besides, the Democrats want to destroy the family, same as they want to destroy the church - to reduce the world to atomized individuals helpless before the power of the state.
Posted by: bgates | January 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM
Back in my banking days in the early 90's, I worked with a couple withe two children who owned a house together. Even then, they figured that going from two 'head-of-household' tax returns to a single married return would increase their tax burden by 25% of combined income.
They were careful to document expenses, but were never audited.
Of course, it did make it easier to split up when the kids were tweens, but who really cares about the children?
Posted by: Walter | January 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM
First, these statistics don't separate correlation and causation. Maybe men and women inclined to get married are also more competent at other indicators of planning ability
Or conversely, a good marriage exists where there's a complimentary mix of strengths and weaknesses. Before my older Hatette met my son in law, I pretty much liked all her boyfriends but was concerned that they had the same weaknesses as she did. When I met the one she married, I thought that he was strong where she was weak and it seemed that she did likewise for him (at which I could only guess at that point).
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/rumours-of-marriage-problems-threaten-to-overshadow-michelle-obamas-50th-birthday/story-fnb64oi6-1226800021887#
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM
And that reminds me...is Michelle still in Hawaii?
Posted by: Marlene | January 13, 2014 at 10:37 AM
Hat tip ORYR
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/01/foreign-press-obama-marriage-problems.html?m=1
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM
As if the JEF and Mooch haven't already been like a really really bad sitcom...
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 13, 2014 at 10:42 AM
Interesting-- this Fleischer Op-Ed was one thing in today's WSJ 'A' section I didn't recommend.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 10:58 AM
Plamegate update: Clarice Feldman says Sibel Edmonds misunderstood
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2014/01/12/plamegate-update-clarice-feldman-says-sibel-edmonds-misunderstood/
Posted by: Truthbetold | January 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM
In a story of a Gates interview on the Today show, we find this:
Remember Hillary's fall fracturing her elbow?
She was in the State Dept garage at the time and on her way to a meeting at the WH.
Gates's fall occured New Year's Day, and the details are . . . sketchy.
With Gates' injury being sustained at home, I want to know if he was navigating stairs while carrying research papers.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | January 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM
NK,
I did read the book review on the Rock Island Requiem and will most likely get the book. However, not mentioned is that consolidating all these long-haul and short-line RR's has resulted in the most efficient Class 1 railroads in the world. Freight centric but even the Swiss come to Omaha to study Union Pacific's model.
Sometimes nostalgia is a bitch.
Posted by: JIB (in Typhus hell) | January 13, 2014 at 11:33 AM
"On Iraq, Gates said that he never claimed Obama opposed the military operation purely for political reasons.
“What I say in the book was that the president conceded that a lot of opposition to the surge had been political. He never said that his opposition was political. In fact, his opposition was consistent with his opposition to the war all along,” Gates said."
I think the neckbrace was from a whiplash to the right. His double-take on conservative spinners racked-up that vertebra.
Posted by: Jack Reacher | January 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM
It is extremely odd for Michelle to be away from home for such an extended period of time. One of the headlines I read this morning is that it seems like there will be a week of partying and fun.
I think she laid low after all of the criticism of her trips and now she's back at it again. If so, there's a lot of Marie Antoinette in her. I couldn't imagine being away from my teenaged kids that long.
Going back to Moynihan's 1965 study, the connection between divorce/unwed motherhood and poverty has been pellucid.
Just as pellucid has been the Left's antipathy towards conventional norms. "Let it all hang out" opened Pandora's box.
That the Left knows this and has continued with and accelerated their destructive policies would indicate that the best policy for stemming the downfall of our country is the destruction of the American Left.
Posted by: matt | January 13, 2014 at 11:38 AM
"the best policy for stemming the downfall of our country is the destruction of the American Left."
Amen!
Posted by: pagar | January 13, 2014 at 11:45 AM
Does anyone know if Moochelle's mother, (Mrs. Robinson) still lives in the White House. And I agree, it is indeed odd that FLOTUS is so far away from her two teenaged daughters for so long.
Posted by: peter | January 13, 2014 at 12:05 PM
Hmmm this POS software sent a comment into cyberhell...
If so, there's a lot of Marie Antoinette in her. I couldn't imagine being away from my teenaged kids that long.
The real life Marie Antoinette was a much better mother, wife and person than Mooch by several orders of magnitude.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM
The daughters are back at school in DC?
Moochelle is a piece of work.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM
Perhaps Michelle read Barry's text messages, and there was a text from Hollande inviting Barry to come along on a motorbike ride excursion at the next meeting between them.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | January 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM
"Those with a single mother: 33.9%."
Really? Doesn't adding her EITC check and total EBT payments bump Julia Lackwitz and Babybyblow quite a ways up the ladder? Those subsidies have to be added in prior making any comparison.
TM correctly notes the BOzocare penalty and Walter provides a nice illustration of the IRS mistreatment of the married but EITC and EBT have to be added in as well in order to evaluate Julia's true status on her plantation within Blue Hell. We may not wish to fully consider all the aspects of the progressive dream of keeping women as free milk and STD providers but Ari's drivel should at least begin with an honest comparison.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM
Kevin Williamson has a piece at NRO this week about poverty in white Appalachia. In the poorest county in America, Owsley County, KY, marriage rates are above average and teen pregancy rates are below average. Welfare payments, on the other hand...
The White Ghetto
Worth the read.
Posted by: Extraneus | January 13, 2014 at 12:28 PM
Does anyone understand why the Democrats are insisting that illegals should be allowed to take unearned and therefore illegal taxpayers money?
http://watchdog.org/123396/unemployment-benefits-irs/
"Scorched by ‘illegal’ IRS credits,"
I don't understand how they claimed to be scorched, when they voted to allow the theft of taxpayer money to continue with no consequences for the people taking the money or the Democrats who are allowing them to take it illegally.
Posted by: pagar | January 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM
Right on cue:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rove-christies-handling-of-bridge-scandal-gives-him-tea-party-street-cred/
Top men will not be denied. You stupid baggers are gonna get Christie in '16 and you'll like it!
Posted by: lyle | January 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM
It's almost as if paying for dependency has some effect on the number of dependents.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM
"But now suppose they run the numbers, get a divorce and each takes custody of one child."
So why is it that absolutely nobody does that, if it's so tempting?
Posted by: Kathy Kattenburg | January 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM
The incidence of cohabitation w/o marriage has been growing in this country for many years. Your point is?
That Williamson article is, I think, as good as it gets. Very thought provoking.
One thing that is clear is that the War on Poverty has been a disaster. How does a society survive with a permanent, hopeless underclass?
Posted by: matt | January 13, 2014 at 12:46 PM
So why is it that absolutely nobody does that, if it's so tempting?
My third grade teacher was wrong. Turns out there ARE such things as stupid questions.
Posted by: lyle | January 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM
RickB will get a kick out of this-- BigGovIns tells Boehner/Cantor don't touch our crony Bailout$$$, we bought the bailout fair and square! Repeal the 2 Bailout provisons ASAP: http://www.buzzfeed.com/katenocera/lobbying-talking-points-show-insurer-freak-out-over-potentia
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM
just knew kaka was going to chime in.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM
and very funny the sidebar ads I'm getting. thinking she isn't looking for marriage...
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 12:55 PM
The breakdown of the family has repercussions that go beyond the statistics.My sister and her husband were foster parents to three (at the time) preteen girls. I won't describe the situations these girls came from,you can imagine. My sister has a heart of gold.After consulting therapists,social workers and adoption officials in the state where they live,they decided to adopt all three. We were thrilled to have three "instant" nieces. The teen-age years have begun,and there is no amount of nurture from my sister and b-i-l that can heal the emotional wounds.One of the girls left at eighteen,one is now in residental treatment and thank God,the third is a good student and doing well. She's a survivor. It has been quite a lesson in the reality of broken homes.My heart breaks for my sister,she opened her home and heart to these girls,but the damage was done long ago.
Posted by: Marlene | January 13, 2014 at 12:58 PM
A Good Morning Antarctic Update:
1) The Akademik Showalskiy (the formerly icebound Russian ship that previously carried the 52 Dispirited Mawsenites) is just about to pull into the Harbor of Bluff in southern New Zealand. Here's the current info on that:
AKADEMIK SHOKALSKIY
Position Recorded on:
2014-01-13 17:34:00 (UTC)
It is scheduled to depart Bluff back to Antarctica with a Russian sister ship, on a previously scheduled mission.
2) The 52 Mawsenites remain on board the Aurora Australis, currently on day 3 of the required 5 day cargo offload ops in Casey Station Antarctica. I'm guessing they'll arrive in Hobart Tasmania in about 10 days, where hopefully they can give us a press conference about all the valuable science they did for us.
I do have to give Professer Turney great credit though---He has sure educated the heck out of me about Antarctica:)
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 01:01 PM
>>> How does a society survive with a permanent, hopeless underclass?<<<
looks like we are going to find out. but lets give 'um weed, more bennies, and import a few million more.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 01:03 PM
>>>FEDS PROBE CHRISTIE OVER SANDY<<<
No good deed goes unpunished.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 01:16 PM
GREAT NEWS, DADDY.
PLS DO NOT BOTHER CLICKING ON TRUTHBETOLD. I'M SURE IT'S JUST P TOP TROLLING FOR HITS SINCE ALEXA SAYS THE SITE BASICALLY GETS NONE.
RICK: "It's almost as if paying for dependency has some effect on the number of dependents."
YOU BETCHA.
I SEEM TO RECALL THAT WHEN ONE STATE--I THINK NJ SAID IT WULD NOT PAY WELFARE FOR MORE THAN X NUMBER OF KIDS TO THE SAME MOTHER AFTER A CERTAIN DATE, THE NUMBER OF DEPENDENT CHILDREN PLUMMETED.
I THINK -RE THE CAUSATION/CORRELATION RETORT THAT THERE'S MORE THAN SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE THAT ONE PARENT CANNOT PROPERLY CARE FOR AND SUPPORT CHILDREN--IT TOOK 2 TO TANGO AND TAKES 2 TO RAISE.
Posted by: clarice | January 13, 2014 at 01:16 PM
good to see you in the comments Clarice. Hope all is well.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 01:22 PM
No sweat Clarice, I won't bother with the troll, but I must say I am happy to see your latest Pieces posted over at Insty this morning.
Big Congratulations for that!!!
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 01:29 PM
oh bother...should be doing something productive I suppose.
Janet-
know of any cheap places to live in Fairfax or over near you...
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 01:30 PM
The real life Marie Antoinette was a much better mother, wife and person than Mooch by several orders of magnitude.
As I recall from a recent walking tour in Paris, Marie Antoinette's last words were "Pardonez Moi" (excuse me), since she accidentally stepped on the foot of the Executioner who was going to kill her in the next few moments.
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 01:36 PM
I agree with Clarice that it takes two parents to raise a child and I also concur with Capt. Hate that complementary skills is also a plus.
Tying in to Mrs. McGiver: when my Dad was alive, he'd give us some random household tool for Christmas, such as a wrench or some screwdrivers. But, he'd always give it to Mrs. Beasts, because he knew I'd create more problems with it than I'd solve! lol
Posted by: Beasts of England | January 13, 2014 at 01:45 PM
I decline to make any proper parenting comments at this point in time.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 01:49 PM
did the IKEA project goes as expected?
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 01:55 PM
rich-- read this morning's comments in the prior thread. Old Lurker, Marlene et al got in thir share of well deserved 'I Told You Sos!!"
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 02:00 PM
That Williamson piece on Appalachia "The White Ghetto" (see Ex at 12:28) was a little off-kilter when it came to geography at the end.
I was totally baffled about his drive to Wiliamsburg, KY then reaching Memphis and seeing the Appalachian hills over his shoulder??! I think Williamson was drinking too much of that Pepsi and maybe smoking som of that weed, or something.
A number of the comments were savage especially those from people who either live there or are from there.
Posted by: JIB (in Typhus hell) | January 13, 2014 at 02:02 PM
Love the Brooklyn Bridge/Jimmy Webb reference in the title of this thread. That TM, he is so clever.
Posted by: peter | January 13, 2014 at 02:05 PM
"But, he'd always give it to Mrs. Beasts, because he knew I'd create more problems with it than I'd solve!"
One of my very earliest memories was of my Dad in that role, Beasts.
Mom & Dad had four kids in < 4 years, and we were all under 5 at the time of this story. Dad was from Charleston WV but we were living in Pittsburgh where he had his first law job circa 1952. He was never very good with his hands, and he made good use of his temper to fend of most criticisms.
Christmas of 1952 was the year of the Black & Decker 1/4" power drill and attachments. Dad HAD to have one so that's what he got.
Several days after Christmas he told Mom he was going to paint the kitchen using his new drill to stir the paint. Picture Mom in the doorway with the four of us kids watching from behind her skirts. Dad laid paper on the floor; opened the gallon of paint; inserted the spinning paint stirring attachment into the drill; turned it on then inserted the spinning tool it into the full paint can.
Which sprayed the oil based yellow paint over the entire kitchen and Dad.
As we laughed he blew his top, threw down the tool, announced that he had to go visit his mother and still dripping in yellow paint jumped into his car and drove 6 hours to Charleston for the weekend.
And we wonder why Mothers are saints?
Posted by: Old Lurker | January 13, 2014 at 02:09 PM
Peter,
I thought Brooklyn Bridge was Johnny Maestro?
Posted by: JIB (in Typhus hell) | January 13, 2014 at 02:10 PM
As for the deja vu we're seeing this morning of the SouthWest Jet landing at the wrong airport.
I can recite the standard "How Could This Happen?"stuff: 2 Runways, lined up in the same direction, simply fixating on the technique of landing, not cross-checking nav aides since it's right there in front of you visually, the tower in your headset probably already cleared you to land so that reinforces your subconscious habit pattern that this is the correct runway, probably on a visual approach so the responsibility for separation goes to the pilot, etc.
It's something that shouldn't happen but it happens because we are humans. I just hope that the Govt, via the FAA, doesn't come in and mandate something like "From now on no "Visual" landings will be allowed at 100% of the large fields in the US in aircraft bigger than bumpty-squat until we figure out some fix."
We fly these things under Instrument rules. Under Instrument rules the ATC is required to maintain a particular distance separation between the guy landing and the guy behind him (say 5 miles). But once you are in the landing environment, and you have a visual on your traffic in front of you, and you have a visual on the field you are landing at, ATC Approach Control can ask that if you have the traffic and the field in sight, will you accept a visual approach. When we say "Yes", that removes separation responsibility from them and puts it on us, and the 5 mile separation rule required between me and the guy landing in front of me no longer applies. After that, separation between me and the guy in front of me can be reduced common-sensically, to something like 'just as long as that guy is safely clear of the Runway and I've been cleared to land, then I can land.'
It is a way that allows the system to work more aircraft, numbers wise, into a given airport or approach control zone on any given day, as well as it saves gas so you don't have to drone around in longer box-patterns taking vectors and burning up more gas since you are covering more miles doing these longer patterns. And it frees ATC, once you've accepted visual responsibility, from having to monitor you and they can deal with other stuff they're controlling.
The reason I don't want an immediate FAA dictate, is that it will cause delays throughout the system, and the prices of Air Transport will go up as a result, due to increased use of fuel, longer delays, working less planes thru the system, increasing the workload on Approach Control, etc. And after all that I still don't see what the ultimate fix will be, since even in that environment I still think you'll have guys at these outlying fields periodically putting it down on the wrong stretch of concrete.
just my 2 cents.
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 02:14 PM
The song, "The Worst That Could Happen" was written by Jimmy Webb, and performed by Johnny Maestro and the Brooklyn Bridge, which sometimes performed as the Brooklyn Bridge.
Posted by: peter | January 13, 2014 at 02:25 PM
sorry NK.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 02:25 PM
daddy;
who is paying the room and board and waste disposal fees for the Mawsonites as they enjoy their 3 hour tour?
As to these wrong runways, I blame the vector, Victor.
Posted by: matt | January 13, 2014 at 02:26 PM
daddy,
Talk about increased employment - The FAA should write a new rule that ALL airport runways must be of such a length to handle a fully loaded 737-800. (What's that 10K or a little less?).
Problem solved. Thousands of upgraded airports. Catepillar stock goes through the roof, unemployment drops to under 3% and no more embarrassments!
Posted by: JIB (in Typhus hell) | January 13, 2014 at 02:29 PM
Alan Grayson's wife, Lolita, has filed for divorce. I swear she looks like a Filipina mail order bride....
Posted by: matt | January 13, 2014 at 02:29 PM
Alan Grayson's wife, Lolita, has filed for divorce.
In this case I doubt it's for the tax benefits.
Posted by: jimmyk | January 13, 2014 at 02:35 PM
>>> How does a society survive with a permanent, hopeless underclass?<<<
looks like we are going to find out. but lets give 'um weed, more bennies, and import a few million more.
Too true. Sadly, too true...
know of any cheap places to live in Fairfax or over near you...
I don't know of any places, Rich. But if ya want to come into Arlington to look I'll take you out to lunch. I live sorta near the Clarendon area & it is full of young people.
Posted by: Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself | January 13, 2014 at 02:38 PM
who is paying the room and board and waste disposal fees for the Mawsonites as they enjoy their 3 hour tour?
Matt,
That's the
$64,000$6,400,000 Question.Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 02:45 PM
Miss M and JamesD sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes Love
Then come Marriage
Then they come driving in a Pimp Salad Carriage
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 02:46 PM
Rich-- I'll break your heart a bit here; 1980-1982 I lived in apt 830 in the eastern most of red brick apartment buildings known then as "Iranian" nee "Arlington Towers" at the base of Arlington Blvd, adjacent to The Iwo Jima Mem to the South and what became the 1st USA Today Tower to the North. 3 Minute walk to the Rosslyn Metro-- or a 20 minute bike ride to foggy bottom/GW, LESS to Georgetown. My roomate and I split a 2-Bdr/1bath, big L-shaped living room, separate kitchen, terrace overlooking the Mall-- $640/month total SPLIT 2 WAYS. We had a panoromic view of the entire District from the tidewater by DC National- up the Potomac past Georgetown, with the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials sitting what seemed like right under our terrace. We lived like pashas.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 02:51 PM
I don't recall if there's a Mr. Marple or not, but Mrs. JamesD would DEFINITLEY object to that!
Posted by: James D. | January 13, 2014 at 03:00 PM
Rich, I live not far from Janet, and our building is pretty nice and (for the area) not too expensive.
Posted by: James D. | January 13, 2014 at 03:01 PM
Fabulous story, OL! Oil-based paint, too? Yikes! My ex would have never let me within five feet of a power tool...
Posted by: Beasts of England | January 13, 2014 at 03:03 PM
lol, daddy! Pimp salad is certain to have a life of its own!
Posted by: Beasts of England | January 13, 2014 at 03:05 PM
"Oil Based", and Lead containing paint!!
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 03:05 PM
Thanks,OL..I really laughed out loud reading that post and heaven knows I needed the laugh just then.XOXO
Posted by: clarice | January 13, 2014 at 03:13 PM
My right eye is twitching and I am not sleeping.
Clarice,
Charles Darwin used to have eye twitches and problems sleeping as well. He thought it was an evolutionary response to internal stress such as having the Mom move in with the kids etc. He posited that the way to break the cycle was to go for the icy Water Treatment at Malvern, which he believed shocked the nervous system into insensibility and rejiggered the physiological response mechanism to a neutral state via thermal contraction and vascular dilation.
Since Hit is on Vomit assignment, and Miss Marple is on toothache patrol, would you mind taking off all your clothes, running outside your house naked, and rolling in the snow for about 10 minutes. Then come back inside and please inform us if your right eye is still involuntarily twitching. I, and Darwin, are fairly confident that either both of them will be twitching, or neither of them.
Then take a nap.
Thanks in advance:)
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 03:14 PM
daddy, I don't think it's cold enough in DC today to make that a valid experiment. Perhaps just a freezing cold bath? Not as much fun as what you suggest, but this is about the science, after all.
Posted by: jimmyk | January 13, 2014 at 03:18 PM
Lead paint, sure it was! My brother and I wonder how we survived with all the hazmat we lived with and played with. Just last year I finally took my share of the family mercury supply to the hazmat place. I carried that jar through about 60 years of moves, but finally decided turning pennies into shiny dimes and trading them to my little brother for two nickles had finally run its course. It took him years to discover that after the mercury evaporated his dimes had become pennies again.
Posted by: Old Lurker | January 13, 2014 at 03:19 PM
Another NHS horror story
This time a 4 year old was so dehydratred he was sucking moisture off his wet wipes.
Posted by: JIB (in Typhus hell) | January 13, 2014 at 03:19 PM
Note to self: no financial transactions with OL.
Posted by: Beasts of England | January 13, 2014 at 03:29 PM
Janet-
check your email later. I'll take you up on your offer at your convenience.
JamesD-
is your email on the list? I'll try to get a hold of you...somehow...
****
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 03:35 PM
Rich, it is, but just in case:
jamesd at elevendayempire dot com
Posted by: James D. | January 13, 2014 at 03:44 PM
I don't think it's cold enough in DC today
What the Hay, JimmyK?!? I thought we had Global warming going on over there?
For instance---WUWT's Quote of the Week: • “…we can expect to see [extreme cold] with increasing frequency as global warming continues.” Presidential Science Advisor John Holdren [H/t Howard Hayden]
Bummer Clarice---Science loses out again:(
BTW,
Here's the just up WUWT story on the Russian Ship pulling into port: Akademic Shokalskiy makes it back to port, #spiritofmawson ship of fools still stuck in Antartica
Prof Turney, when and if he does ever get home, may not find as a happy a homecoming as he was hoping for:) Only 8 comments so far but I think it'll pick up since "The Spirit Of Mawson Expedition" seems to be a gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2014 at 03:46 PM
Janet-
sent you an email.
NK-
sounded like a great place. were you in school at the time or just starting out. I'd be a pig in mud if I could find a dumpy shack...with outhouse and a fire pit for a kitchen...for about $640/mth. thought I had a place lined up (a bit far from campus), then the bait and switch.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 03:47 PM
I painted houses in law school. Ahhhh. The smell of lead paint. Please! Can I paint the closets?
Posted by: MarkO | January 13, 2014 at 03:48 PM
I also love the smell of lead paint.
Posted by: Porchlight | January 13, 2014 at 03:51 PM
JamesD;
sent you an email as well. thanks.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 03:53 PM
I really like and respect John Yoo: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/368332/presidents-recess-appointment-overreach-john-yoo
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 03:54 PM
speaking of studies;
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/368047/study-extending-unemployment-benefits-increased-unemployment-more-3-percentage-points
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2014 at 03:54 PM
the smell of lead paint...yeah, I got nothing.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 03:55 PM
When we were first married we lived in the Executive Apts off Columbia Pike in Arlington--giant aprt with 1 1/2 baths and swiming pool, etc for $200/month..and from there we could see the DC smoke from riots when MLK was murdered.
Posted by: clarice | January 13, 2014 at 03:58 PM
Clarice-- were those garden apartments or a high rise on Columbia Pike?
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 04:06 PM
I'll be living in my car over on campus at this rate...
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 04:07 PM
I could make it work...palatial campus gyms to take a shower, plenty of places to eat, wouldn't have to worry about my morning commute...$200/mth on Columbia Pike...$640/mth (split 2WAYS!!!) on Arlington BLVD (that is 50 if memory serves)...live in the wrong time.
Posted by: rich@gmu | January 13, 2014 at 04:12 PM
Small world, Clarice - I lived there when I first moved down to the area in 1995. I think it's been through two different owners since then.
But on the plus side, I think it's very close by the new $1,000,000 bus stop on Columbia Pike, so there's that!
Posted by: James D. | January 13, 2014 at 04:14 PM
"Maybe men and women inclined to get married are also more competent at other indicators of planning ability and impulse control..."
Perhaps. But fifty years ago almost all men and women were so inclined.
Posted by: Danube on iPad | January 13, 2014 at 04:16 PM
NK, it's a high rise (three buildings, actually).
Posted by: James D. | January 13, 2014 at 04:16 PM
So Grand master Rove, is trying standup, oh he's serious, facepalm. well this move was like the cunning, cunning plan, to impart knowledge to Matt Cooper, and will work out as well.
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2014 at 04:17 PM
Birth Control pills came out, when, DoT?
Posted by: Old Lurker | January 13, 2014 at 04:17 PM
Other cunning, cunning, plans, noted by Taranto;
Reuters' figures are very close to those we found in November when we looked at enrollment figures from California, supposedly ObamaCare's great success story. The Golden State was boasting that 22.5% of its enrollees were between 18 and 34, slightly higher than that age cohort's 21% of the state population. But the proper denominator to use wasn't the total population but the nonelderly adult (18 to 64) population, since the elderly are covered by Medicare and many children by Medicaid. The young cohort makes up 33.8% of California's nonelderly adult population but, at the time we wrote, only 23.8% of nonelderly adult ObamaCare enrollees. Greatly overrepresented was the far more illness-prone 45-to-64 set.
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2014 at 04:20 PM
Ya know, trolls would be so much wiser if they consistently read Clarice instead of writing closed-eye, knee jerk, non-Charles Darwin-like comments.
Posted by: sbwaters | January 13, 2014 at 04:23 PM
NK High rise
Posted by: clarice | January 13, 2014 at 04:24 PM
JamesD, and it's close to DC..Once in a snowstorm a friend an I walked over to Arlington Cemetery, planning ro continue on over Memorial Bridge to work downtown. We got a lift from someone who I am sure was Admiral Zumwalt though we didn't know it until we pulled into a Navy Bldg and everyone gave him a big salute
Posted by: clarice | January 13, 2014 at 04:28 PM
And this example from CNN Money;
But when the 59-year-old went to her doctor last week, she was told he couldn't see her because she hadn't designated him as her primary care provider. If she wanted to be treated, she'd have to pay for the visit and lab work and request reimbursement. She spent an hour on hold with Independence trying to fix the problem and left the office without care.
trolls, are by their nature 'nasty brutish and short, and seeing they take their guidance from the likes of Klein and Yglesias not that smart
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2014 at 04:29 PM
Clarice/James-- in Autumn 1979 I lived a bit further out on Columbia Pike from there in Garden Apartments. I had a couple of jogging routes, one went east down to the Navy Annex and to the entrance to Arlington National, the jog down was easy.... running back home up the hill was the issue.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | January 13, 2014 at 04:36 PM
"My third grade teacher was wrong."
You don't know the answer either, huh, Lyle?
Posted by: Kathy Kattenburg | January 13, 2014 at 04:54 PM
Elmo Zumwalt. One of the most delightful names ever.
Posted by: lyle | January 13, 2014 at 04:55 PM
"just knew kaka was going to chime in."
Guess you don't have an answer, either.
Posted by: Kathy Kattenburg | January 13, 2014 at 04:56 PM
Just saw Lone Survivor. Sheesh I hate crying.
I think I should move to FL and open a bar called "The Last Drink" - at least that was my most brilliant idea since I arrived.
Home tomorrow where it is already dark out.
Posted by: Jane | January 13, 2014 at 05:04 PM
Shrill. Tiresome. Pedantic. Bitter. Tedious. A straight flush!
Posted by: Beasts of England | January 13, 2014 at 05:07 PM
Ah, Kathy. This was your question:
The discussion about couples potentially divorcing arose from the topic of O-care subsidies. So it necessarily was framed as something that might happen--I'll emphasize this for you--in the future. Your question was why no one was thusfar so tempted. The point that blew by your head was that couples might start contemplating such a move due to a law that recently went into effect. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with it.
Posted by: lyle | January 13, 2014 at 05:11 PM