CNS ponders a recent New York City report on public health and delivers this:
NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born
Michael W. Chapman
Feb 20, 2014
(CNSNews.com) – In 2012, there were more black babies killed by abortion (31,328) in New York City than were born there (24,758), and the black children killed comprised 42.4% of the total number of abortions in the Big Apple, according to a report by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.
The report is entitled, Summary of Vital Statistics 2012 The City of New York, Pregnancy Outcomes, and was prepared by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, Office of Vital Statistics.
The NY Times may get around to this eventually, since they covered a similar report two years ago. Back then, Linda Greenhouse of the Times explained why this is all good and a triumph of progressive feminism, so there you go.
However, people who dredge into the comments from two years ago will find this pushback against some of her cited statistics, bravely highlighted by the Times editors:
Ryan Bomberger
Atlanta, GA 10 February 2011
THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE, BUT MS. GREENHOUSE, YOU DO.
...
The obscene lies about infant and maternal mortality rates (MMR) need a truth infusion from actual stats from the CDC and the NY State Department of Health. NYC maternal mortality was 30.3 (per 100,000 live births) in 1969, 26.1 in 1970, 18.3 in 1971, and 19.7 in 1972. It was NOT cut in half by the legalization of abortion. Let's talk actual numbers here. In 1968, there were a total of 66 maternal deaths in NYC, compared to 141,920 live births with 608 legal abortions and 59 illegal. How is it that in 1970, when abortion was legalized in NYC, there were MORE MATERNAL DEATHS...68...(20 from abortions) with 19,349 legal abortions? Abortion does not reduce maternal deaths. It causes them. In 2008, there were 44 maternal deaths in NYC, a rate of 12.1 which is on par with the national MMR, yet NYC abortion rate is 42 times higher than the national average of 16.1 per 1,000 births. Every death is tragic, but how do 44 maternal deaths justify the willful killing of 118,381 innocent unborn lives? Maternal deaths increased during the 80s and 90s (when abortion hit its peak in the US) and continue to climb, most notably because of women delaying pregnancy. Women ages 35 and older are 7x more at risk of maternal death according to the CDC.
Infant mortality (IMR) was NOT cut in half by abortion. The IMR was 24.1 from 1966-1969, 21.6 in 1970 and 20.9 in1971, according to the NY State Dept of Health. The true historical perspective reveals that infant mortality has been on the decline since the early 1900s. Every year since, just as with maternal mortality, it had declined NOT BECAUSE OF ABORTION but because of medical advances and the "discovery and widespread use of antimicrobial agents (sulfonamide and penicillin)" according to the CDC. In NYC, the 2008 infant mortality rate was 5.1, equating to 620 deaths. So, for the abortion apologists, the answer to 620 tragic untimely infant deaths is 118,381 more deliberate killings?
If anyone wants to try and referee those numbers we are all ears. This seems to be the contreoversial paragraph from Ms. Greenhouse:
Beyond the numbers, the public health impact of legalization was stunning and immediate. Maternal mortality in New York City dropped by more than half during the first year, to an all-time recorded low. Infant mortality also dropped to a new low, which the New York City Health Services Administration attributed to the availability of abortion to women most likely to give birth to babies at the greatest risk of dying, including very young women and poor women who had not received adequate prenatal care. The number of births to unmarried women dropped for the first time. As knowledge spread of the availability of abortion, more and more women terminated their pregnancies in the first trimester — from 67 percent during the first two months of legalization to 86 percent 10 months later. (The figure today is 88 percent.)
Margaret Sanger's plan comes to fruition. The only progressive plan that works is the one for exterminating people (esp. of color). Amazing the left hasn't created a national holiday in her name.
Posted by: henry | February 21, 2014 at 06:34 PM
Ever notice to progs that people like me are anti-abortion when in fact I am pro-life. Semantics are the realm of the progs and their MFM enablers, apologists and promoters.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 21, 2014 at 06:35 PM
what would you call these people, death eaters,
strigoi or the traditional ghoul.
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 06:40 PM
That's Jorge Arreaza, the Vice President, whose wife is Chavez's daughter, Rosa Virginia Chavez.
lol
Posted by: Extraneus | February 21, 2014 at 06:49 PM
Jesse Jackson warned us about this 45 years ago.
BTW-- when I tell my liberal NYC colleagues that I believe abortion is morally abhorent, they lean in and whisper of course it is, but without abortion we'd be overrun with poor violent black kids. I've heard that for decades in Prog NYC.
Posted by: NK(withnewsoftware) | February 21, 2014 at 06:51 PM
Girl Scout Does Brisk Business Selling Cookies Outside San Francisco Pot Club
Posted by: Extraneus | February 21, 2014 at 06:52 PM
I'm not going to spend a lot of time chowdering around the numbers and what they may or may not have to do with the incidence of maternal death.
When I first heard the number of abortions in the black community in NYC versus the number of life births in the black community ; and when I heard that blacks received 42% of all abortions in NYC, my thought was that hope had died in the black community. You don't bring children into a world where you believe they have no future. Somehow I don't think Obama's Hope 'n Change is working out for African Americans.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | February 21, 2014 at 06:52 PM
From the previous thread...
Fast-food restaurants and catering agencies refuse to deliver to the mansion, allegedly, because the Chávez kids have stopped paying their bills.
And their Dad and his hand-picked successor run the whole country in precisely the same way, with precisely the same results.
Posted by: James D. | February 21, 2014 at 06:54 PM
California sheriff who says $276,000 pension not enough fuels push for reform
Posted by: Extraneus | February 21, 2014 at 06:57 PM
On Fox today, the liberal pundit said why would anyone pay attention to Joe Biden? She mentioned his numerous gaffes, said he is just a figure head. She gets her talking points from the WH. They are trying to undo the damage he caused when he said they probably wouldn't enroll 7 million. I wonder what ole Joe is doing tonight?
Posted by: Sue | February 21, 2014 at 06:58 PM
Ryan Bomberger is wonderful. He often speaks at the pro-life rallies. Here are 2 of his sites - http://www.theradiancefoundation.org/
and
http://www.toomanyaborted.com/
a video about his birth/story - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktbnqpiHr94
Posted by: Janet | February 21, 2014 at 07:03 PM
The FCC has backed off. For how long, who knows.
Posted by: Jane-curling is on! | February 21, 2014 at 07:03 PM
Somehow I don't think Obama's Hope 'n Change is working out for African Americans.
He's sold them out as much as his parents did him.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 21, 2014 at 07:08 PM
Cross-posted since there's a new thread:
Miss Marple,
In the Omni Hotel in Indy 2 days back I was coming down in the elevator when an absolutely huge young guy in a sweat suit and in fluorescent green soled tennis shoes stepped in. Then in the Lobby I saw a dozen more, all enormous, same outfits, and was advised that they were in town as prospective NFL draftees:
2014 NFL Draft: List of players invited to Combine in Indianapolis
Your town is the perfect size for Conventions like that. I've been there when you've had the Annual Conventions of Firefighters, and of the Future Farmers of America. I've also been there for a few others, but those 2 groups I remember because the Firemen are in all the Bars having a heck of a good time till all hours of the night, while the FFA guys are all teenagers running around in that FFA Blue Jacket trying desperately to find old ladies they can helpfully escort across the street.
Did you spot any of the Future NFL'ers in the fluorescent green tennis shoes as you traveled back and forth from your great work at the food pantry?
Posted by: daddy | February 21, 2014 at 07:12 PM
this is not necessarily a good thing;
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/21/apocalypse-soon-ukrainian-president-reportedly-flees-kiev/
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 07:13 PM
What's that 7:02 post? What's the point?
Too disgusting to even be around.
Posted by: Janet | February 21, 2014 at 07:15 PM
"Somehow I don't think Obama's Hope 'n Change is working out for African Americans."
Comanche Voter,
You have to put the Black Genocidaire in Chief's comments about not having to suffer the punishment of a baby just because a mistake was made in front of that assertion. I would note the Hispanic birth rate in NYC is dropping just as fast as the blacks while the white birth rate has ticked up.
The Planned Parenthood Einsatzkommandos in NYC really know their stuff. Will the Grand Kleagle in the Oval Office give them a shout out for their efforts or is killing 58K non-whites just an average outing?
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 21, 2014 at 07:24 PM
Janet,
Its Marty's wife.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 21, 2014 at 07:24 PM
It's his self portrait Janet.
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 07:25 PM
Here's the Watts Up link on Mark Steyn's counter suit against Michael Mann:
Steyn countersues Mann for 10 millon dollars
I'd love to hear JOM's Team Legal thoughts as this goes on, if you think Steyn has a decent chance of being successful?
I was unaware of this from NK in the earlier thread:
I guess NRO winning the appeal, forced the Mann team to give into reality. Now that he's a stipulated public figure, Steyn will be able to play wth house money and torture the shite out of Mann. He deserves it.
Posted by: daddy | February 21, 2014 at 07:28 PM
Off now for the first walk with the dogs in about 10 days. Hopefully if we run into any moose they won't be as mean as this young girl moose from Marline's Maine:
VIDEO: You mess with the moose, you get the hooves
Posted by: daddy | February 21, 2014 at 07:37 PM
this provides a certain perspective;
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/mar/20/fascism-russia-and-ukraine/?insrc=hpss
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 07:37 PM
On a positive note, both Neil Cavuto's Show today and Lou Dobb's Show today have had on some very young Conservative Leader's discussing issues and I'm very impressed with their thoughts and their ability to articulate them so well. Very encouraging. It is discouraging to go to a Tea Party rally and only see folks my age, so I'm sure glad these folks are out there.
Posted by: daddy | February 21, 2014 at 07:43 PM
Single payer is inevitable:
"Leading doctors have raised fears that high numbers of patients are dying while waiting for heart surgery in Wales. The Royal College of Surgeons wrote to healthcare inspectors last year warning of “grave concerns” that too many people were dying in the south of the country because of long waits for heart surgery. The letter, seen by The Daily Telegraph, calls for swift action to tackle 'unacceptably high mortality' levels and highlights more than 150 cases in which patients died waiting for life-saving treatment."
Posted by: Danube on iPad | February 21, 2014 at 07:46 PM
now that Myerson has become RS's big thinker;
http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/02/journalists-are-the-new-no-money-down-mortgages/#comments
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 07:48 PM
Apparently the Rockefeller and Tides foundations have been making waves in Canada by setting up front organizations and hiring token Native Canadians to protest the Alberta tar sands oil industry.
The tactics of the Comintern never go out of style.
Posted by: matt | February 21, 2014 at 07:49 PM
When, not if it become's Poland's turn, where will they turn;
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/02/21/deal-reached-maybe-in-ukraine-under-threat-that-youll-all-be-dead/
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 07:52 PM
I had forgotten about this: (I'm not including the pix)
Do You Know This Guy?
He is Edward "Ed" Mezvinsky, born January 17, 1937.
Then you’ll probably say, “Who is Ed Mezvinsky?”
Well, he is a former Democrat congressman who represented Iowa's 1st congressional district in the United States House of Representatives for two terms, from 1973 to 1977.
He sat on the House Judiciary Committee that decided the fate of Richard Nixon.
He was outspoken saying that Nixon was a crook and a disgrace to politics and the nation and should be impeached.
He and the Clintons were friends and very politically intertwined for many years.
Ed Mezvinsky had an affair with NBC News reporter Marjorie Sue Margolies and later married her after his wife divorced him.
In 1993, Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, then a freshman Democrat in Congress, cast the deciding vote that got President Bill Clinton’s controversial tax package through the House of Representatives.
In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 counts of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud.
Ed Mezvinsky embezzled more than $10 million dollars from people via both a Ponzi scheme and the notorious Nigerian e-mail scams.
He was found guilty and sentenced to 80 months in federal prison.
After serving less than five years in federal prison, he was released in April 2008 and remains on federal probation.
To this day, he still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his victims.
About now you are saying, “So what!”
Well, this is Marc and Chelsea Mezvinsky.
That’s right; Ed Mezvinsky is Chelsea Clinton's father-in law.
Now Marc and Chelsea are in their early thirties and purchased a 10.5 million dollar NYC apartment.
Has anyone heard mention of any of this in any of the media?
If this guy was Jenna or Barbara Bush's, or better yet, Sarah Palin's daughter's father-in- law, the news would be an everyday headline and every detail would be reported over and over.
And yet liberals say there are no double standards in political reporting.
And people are already talking about Hillary as our next President!
And then there is possibly Chelsea for president in our future!
The cycle never ends!
Lying and corruption seem to make Democrat candidates more popular.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.
~~Thomas Jefferson
WAKE THE HELL UP AMERICA.....!
►
Posted by: Jane-curling is on! | February 21, 2014 at 08:15 PM
Too disgusting to even be around.
Janet, with some of our trolls, and especially this one, I have a feeling that that IS the point.
Posted by: Eric in Boise | February 21, 2014 at 08:18 PM
Geebus,
Costas got religion! Putin no amused.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 21, 2014 at 08:21 PM
Not good enough Marty.
His name was Marty. Not Jack, not Bill, not Joe but Marty. A pretty common name in Pennsylvania, where they cling to guns, the bible and conspiracy theories. But it was his name, damn it, and he was sticking to it. Now that that asshole in California had divulged him, he was left without any cloaking of invincibility? Of course, it was, and now, Marty was naked, alone and in the spotlight of those silly, naïve people at JOM. Now he would have to sacrifice his privacy for the better good.
Too reveal Clarice Feldman as a friend of Richard Perle.
Never in the history of human endeavor, has such a challenge been undertaken without adequate reward. No, Columbus had his America, Pasteur his better milk and Salk his vaccine, but no, Marty would have his trophy, Clarice Feldman. Who knew more about Plamegate than Clarice? Fitzgerald? Ha! Marty knew that this was a huge, colossal conspiracy to deny the American public what they should know. Iraq was a hoax. It never existed. All those people killed were fakes.
Go to any town, city or village in America and you will find perfectly healthy, non-amputees and non-PTSD sufferers. It is a huge scandal; all started under Bush 43 and his buddies Perle, Cohen, Wolfowitz (why do those names all sound Jewish?). Well, you’d have to ask Marty.
Now, Marty had a choice. Does he keep it up as ‘truthbetold’ or does he reveal what a creep he really is before they guy known as Danube of Thought does, and then beg forgiveness and leave forever or does he depend on his vaunted powers of deception and pretending to be a righteous protector of constitutional values? No, this Marty is a hero. A hero with a screw loose but a hero, nevertheless.
But Marty was a terrible writer. His syntax was amateurish, and unremarkable, much like he was, if you ever met him and talked to him. A conversation with Marty was equivalent to ordering an omelet and coffee at IHop. “Would you like cream and sugar with that, sir?” But he had this endearing quality of making you want to grab him, hold him close and let the guys in white coats come in and do the rest.
Marty was working on a faux interview with Richard Perle at some fictitious setting where Clarice was hostess, when the doorbell rang. Marty had to put his computer to sleep, get off his lazy-boy, find his Zimmer-frame and then clop one step at a time to the door. He hated doorbells as well as phones. Every time he answered one of the other there was some one there. Most times he would just let the phone ring or the doorbell go silent than get up and answer. But today he was expecting a package he needed to sign for and he got up.
But instead of FedEx or UPS there was a young man wearing a shirt and tie and a button that read “I Love Lyndon LaRouche”. Of my God, thought Marty, they have finally found me but how? He thought he had covered his tracks over at Little Green Footballs by using numerous handles as he liked to call them. He had been a big Citizen Band or CB guy back in the day. His favorite handle was Jeepers Creepers since he was driving an old C7 with worn tires and a top that had a big tear in it. But it was a worthy machine that got around the pothole strewn roads of southeast Pennsylvania. Some day he would move out of there and make the big time. Baltimore looked better everyday.
“Good morning, how ya doing?” It was the kid with the Larouche button.
“Huh? Yeah, of course, I’m doing great, whataya want?” Marty was not ready to engage a nut job like the Larouche kid. These people were in the paramount of tin foil hat crowds. He was a realist and truth seeker, much like Alex Jones at Infowars.
“Sir, we are here because we understand you believe the WTC No. 7 tower came down from something other than the official explanation and we want you to come and help us prove it but donating $50 to our official forensic investigation fund.”
“I don’t have $50 and I don’t have time for this, I have to finish my interview I am working on. I need to post this soon before everyone forgets me and start loving Clarice Feldman all over again because she is baking a pizza in her “green egg” and sharing it with her crowd. You don’t understand the pressure I am under to assert myself and my conviction with this crowd.”
Marty was sweating and didn’t have a towel to wipe his forehead so he reached out to the Larouche kid and used his shirttail.
“Hey, guy. What the hell you doing? That’s my good Men’s Warehouse shirt.” Which made no difference to Marty, who turned around in one move reminiscent of an acrobat started back to his lazy-boy while kicking the door closed on the LaRouche kid.
So, this is what they think -that I am some kind of conspiracy nut. Well, I am not. I am on to something that can bring down governments or at least American Thinker. I need to finish my interview and get it on that JOM blog.
It was past midnight and Marty was exhausted and he wasn’t quite finished. He decide to lurk on the JOM blog and found out that there were guys talking about guitars and guns.
He was going to have to be real careful how we would proceed from now on. He didn’t want to piss those guys off.
Posted by: J. D. Sallinger | February 21, 2014 at 08:28 PM
Not good enough Marty.
His name was Marty. Not Jack, not Bill, not Joe but Marty. A pretty common name in Pennsylvania, where they cling to guns, the bible and conspiracy theories. But it was his name, damn it, and he was sticking to it. Now that that asshole in California had divulged him, he was left without any cloaking of invincibility? Of course, it was, and now, Marty was naked, alone and in the spotlight of those silly, naïve people at JOM. Now he would have to sacrifice his privacy for the better good.
Too reveal Clarice Feldman as a friend of Richard Perle.
Never in the history of human endeavor, has such a challenge been undertaken without adequate reward. No, Columbus had his America, Pasteur his better milk and Salk his vaccine, but no, Marty would have his trophy, Clarice Feldman. Who knew more about Plamegate than Clarice? Fitzgerald? Ha! Marty knew that this was a huge, colossal conspiracy to deny the American public what they should know. Iraq was a hoax. It never existed. All those people killed were fakes.
Go to any town, city or village in America and you will find perfectly healthy, non-amputees and non-PTSD sufferers. It is a huge scandal; all started under Bush 43 and his buddies Perle, Cohen, Wolfowitz (why do those names all sound Jewish?). Well, you’d have to ask Marty.
Now, Marty had a choice. Does he keep it up as ‘truthbetold’ or does he reveal what a creep he really is before they guy known as Danube of Thought does, and then beg forgiveness and leave forever or does he depend on his vaunted powers of deception and pretending to be a righteous protector of constitutional values? No, this Marty is a hero. A hero with a screw loose but a hero, nevertheless.
But Marty was a terrible writer. His syntax was amateurish, and unremarkable, much like he was, if you ever met him and talked to him. A conversation with Marty was equivalent to ordering an omelet and coffee at IHop. “Would you like cream and sugar with that, sir?” But he had this endearing quality of making you want to grab him, hold him close and let the guys in white coats come in and do the rest.
Marty was working on a faux interview with Richard Perle at some fictitious setting where Clarice was hostess, when the doorbell rang. Marty had to put his computer to sleep, get off his lazy-boy, find his Zimmer-frame and then clop one step at a time to the door. He hated doorbells as well as phones. Every time he answered one of the other there was some one there. Most times he would just let the phone ring or the doorbell go silent than get up and answer. But today he was expecting a package he needed to sign for and he got up.
But instead of FedEx or UPS there was a young man wearing a shirt and tie and a button that read “I Love Lyndon LaRouche”. Of my God, thought Marty, they have finally found me but how? He thought he had covered his tracks over at Little Green Footballs by using numerous handles as he liked to call them. He had been a big Citizen Band or CB guy back in the day. His favorite handle was Jeepers Creepers since he was driving an old C7 with worn tires and a top that had a big tear in it. But it was a worthy machine that got around the pothole strewn roads of southeast Pennsylvania. Some day he would move out of there and make the big time. Baltimore looked better everyday.
“Good morning, how ya doing?” It was the kid with the Larouche button.
“Huh? Yeah, of course, I’m doing great, whataya want?” Marty was not ready to engage a nut job like the Larouche kid. These people were in the paramount of tin foil hat crowds. He was a realist and truth seeker, much like Alex Jones at Infowars.
“Sir, we are here because we understand you believe the WTC No. 7 tower came down from something other than the official explanation and we want you to come and help us prove it but donating $50 to our official forensic investigation fund.”
“I don’t have $50 and I don’t have time for this, I have to finish my interview I am working on. I need to post this soon before everyone forgets me and start loving Clarice Feldman all over again because she is baking a pizza in her “green egg” and sharing it with her crowd. You don’t understand the pressure I am under to assert myself and my conviction with this crowd.”
Marty was sweating and didn’t have a towel to wipe his forehead so he reached out to the Larouche kid and used his shirttail.
“Hey, guy. What the hell you doing? That’s my good Men’s Warehouse shirt.” Which made no difference to Marty, who turned around in one move reminiscent of an acrobat started back to his lazy-boy while kicking the door closed on the LaRouche kid.
So, this is what they think -that I am some kind of conspiracy nut. Well, I am not. I am on to something that can bring down governments or at least American Thinker. I need to finish my interview and get it on that JOM blog.
It was past midnight and Marty was exhausted and he wasn’t quite finished. He decide to lurk on the JOM blog and found out that there were guys talking about guitars and guns.
He was going to have to be real careful how we would proceed from now on. He didn’t want to piss those guys off.
Posted by: J. D. Sallinger | February 21, 2014 at 08:28 PM
Justice Ginsberg: "Frankly, I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of,” Ginsburg told Emily Bazelon of the New York Times in 2009. "
Posted by: clarice | February 21, 2014 at 08:35 PM
And of course there is this tidbit, from the early 90s'
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/nvp/consistent/american-spectator_court.html
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 08:39 PM
Dan Hicks who I respect as a golf commentator just make the most stupid utteranc of all time during the women's slalom. Did anyone else pick it up? What an idiot.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 21, 2014 at 08:43 PM
That’s right; Ed Mezvinsky is Chelsea Clinton's father-in law.
Trash always ends up at its own level.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 21, 2014 at 08:44 PM
you know even H o C, couldn't come up with something so twisted, the closest was a California congress woman, who betrays a secret about her mentor's family to earn the whip's job,
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 08:47 PM
Must have been some bad clams;
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/371647/ted-cruz-and-lesson-dunkirk-thomas-sowell
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 08:50 PM
The thrill is gone...
http://twitchy.com/2014/02/21/not-too-many-ready-for-hillary-at-south-carolina-rally/
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 21, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Daddy, Steyn's counterclaim doesn't specify the theory of his ctwo causes of action, but the document reads to me like a suit for malicious prosecution: the lawsuit against him is the basis for his claim of injury.
The suit is pending in the D.C. Superior Court (not the federal court). I have never practiced in that court, but in federal and California courts, and in fact in every jurisdiction I am aware of, you can't pursue such an action unless and until you first prevail on the action against you.
I think, based on what the court has said so far, he's in trouble at this level.
Posted by: Danube on iPad | February 21, 2014 at 08:52 PM
The D>C> Superior Ct pretty fairly tracks federal law and procedure,DoT, including Rule 11.
Posted by: clarice | February 21, 2014 at 08:56 PM
Nice article. I'm pro-choice!
Posted by: Ghost of Honorable Democrat Senator and Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd | February 21, 2014 at 08:59 PM
Very nice, J.D. - I eagerly await the sequel!
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 21, 2014 at 08:59 PM
look who popped up post ground hog day;
http://tbo.com/list/military-news/broadwell-in-tampa-for-conference-leaves-kelley-scandal-in-past-20140219/
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 09:18 PM
btw, what's the truth about a place called Tarok Kolache, which the blogger Joshua Foust seems inordinately focused on,
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 09:22 PM
DOT, I agree with your analysis.
If I am remembering my FRCP, Clarice, Rule 11 does not give rise to a counterclaim. Rather, it is decided after the termination of the case in chief on motion of the prevailing party, or sua sponte by the Trial Judge.
Classically, an element of the torts of both Malicious Prosecution, a/k/a Malicious Abuse of Process and Malicious Use of Process is termination of the proceeding in favor of the Defendant. Normally, therefore, a counterclaim does not lie for either of these torts, because that element has not occurred until the litigation is terminated. Georgia has a statutory cause of action that replaces the above torts, and essentially allows counterclaims if certain preconditions are met.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet | February 21, 2014 at 09:28 PM
How come we had flags at half mast for Whitney Houston who died of a cocaine OD but not Shirley Temple Black who died a distiguished American diplomat?
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 21, 2014 at 09:29 PM
Someone is ready for Hillary!

Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | February 21, 2014 at 09:30 PM
Ever notice to progs that people like me are anti-abortion when in fact I am pro-life. Semantics are the realm of the progs and their MFM enablers, apologists and promoters.
I know what you mean about the prog semantic game, but I actually don't mind being called anti-abortion. I am most emphatically, whole-heartedly, anti-abortion. It is the truth. So they can call me that if they want.
Posted by: Porchlight | February 21, 2014 at 09:34 PM
narciso,
It doesn't exist anymore. Thanks be to allah.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 21, 2014 at 09:38 PM
Big bass for the first day was 9 lb, 3 oz! Five fish total was 27 lb, 8 oz; average of five and a half pounds per bass. Those are some impressive numbers!
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 21, 2014 at 09:40 PM
that's quite a catch beasts,
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 09:44 PM
You're right, it is not the basis for a counterclaim, but as Steyn is representing himself and courts normally give pro se litigants substantial leeway, I suppose the Court might allow the factual allegations there to stand as a claim for Rule 11 relief when the case is dismissed as it will be.
Posted by: clarice | February 21, 2014 at 09:56 PM
JiB, I think the Whitney Houston story is untrue.
Jim, to continue, again because Steyn is representing himself, the court might allow him to pursue it as a suit for malicious prosecution at the appropraite time.
Mann will never win his wuit
Posted by: clarice | February 21, 2014 at 09:58 PM
I sure hope people will chip in for Steyn if necessary. I certainly will.
Posted by: Porchlight | February 21, 2014 at 10:01 PM
Was there a bigger overhyped POS at the Olympics this year than Shani Davis?
Posted by: Stephanie VIP shhhhh its fight club | February 21, 2014 at 10:09 PM
The flag in New Jersey was lowered at the order of Governor Christie, because Whitney Houston was a New Jersey native.
Posted by: miss Marple | February 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM
The Kimbe*lin RICO suit has taken a weird turn. Ace of Spades has apparently gotten both the ACLU and attorney Paul Alan Levy (who once represented Kime*lin) opposing Ks motion for leave to obtain discovery (of Ace's identity).
Here's Levy's post about it.
Here's the Opposition to the Motion(pdf).
And though IANAL, I found the pacing, thoroughness, and striking clarity of language in that Opposition to be a thing of beauty.
Posted by: AliceH | February 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM
Darnok, when the walls fell, Alice, you couldn't make up a story that bizarre, as this,
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 10:24 PM
So in the link that AliceH provided, it refers to Ace as a 'she'. Is this a legal pronoun protocol or does it suggest that Ace is, indeed, a woman?
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 21, 2014 at 10:48 PM
I wondered if Ace was a she too. Many times.
Posted by: Sue | February 21, 2014 at 10:51 PM
Ace is not a she, but I love that they did that.
Posted by: Jane on Ipad | February 21, 2014 at 10:52 PM
Didn't he appear at CPAC, to get an award, 'we're through the looking class here people'
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 10:53 PM
A footnote in the brief explains: "This brief refers to Ace of Spades using the generic female pronoun, without intending to specify whether this defendent is, in fact, female.".
Posted by: AliceH | February 21, 2014 at 10:54 PM
Hmm, I guess he's just hormonal.
Posted by: Sue | February 21, 2014 at 10:55 PM
So if he appeared before, shouldn't his identity be public record?
Posted by: Sue | February 21, 2014 at 10:56 PM
Thanks, AliceH! I guess I didn't read the footnotes. ;)
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 21, 2014 at 10:57 PM
Is there a generic female pronoun?
Posted by: Ignatz | February 21, 2014 at 10:58 PM
He did appear to accept a blogging award. I remember being shocked that he didn't have black hair and a patch over one eye!
Ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: Centralcal on iPad | February 21, 2014 at 11:01 PM
Yes, there are still images available of Ace at CPAC in 2008. Easy enough to find.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | February 21, 2014 at 11:04 PM
we were epeaking of tramockashams;
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/caracas-venezuelan-opposition-leader-leopoldo-lopez-faces-10-years-in-prison/
he and Maria Corina Machado, are like the Tea Party of Venexuela
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 11:06 PM
I'm just saying, Darby Shaw* seems to have written the original brief
* Julia Robert's character in the Pelican Brief
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 11:14 PM
I wondered if Ace was a she too. Many times.
It would explain a lot except I've seen a picture of him and he looks kind of like an ewok. I was pretty shocked that the Maryland ACLU went to bat for him.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 21, 2014 at 11:14 PM
So we're clear I was referring to in the last link;
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 11:18 PM
Clarice was in Dallas in November 1963.
She cannot be trusted.
Posted by: Gus | February 21, 2014 at 11:19 PM
DoT, Jim R, and Clarice
Thanks folks for your Steyn Lawsuit perspectives.
Posted by: daddy | February 21, 2014 at 11:20 PM
ACE who?
Posted by: Gus | February 21, 2014 at 11:21 PM
What would it explain Cap'n? I always thought he was sexist as he'll. I guess women can be sexist too.
Posted by: Jane on Ipad | February 21, 2014 at 11:25 PM
I wasn't completely certain of the ewok provenance until a few minutes ago. Now it's even funnier.
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 21, 2014 at 11:28 PM
Jane, Ace's biggest problem is that he needs to dominate. When someone threatens his "world", he acts out.
Posted by: Gus | February 21, 2014 at 11:30 PM
It may be true that “God takes care of children, fools and the United States,” but proceeding pro se in this case will exempt Steyn from such protection.
He lost the Anti-SLAPP motion, which gave the Complaint the patina of substance.
Posted by: MarkO | February 21, 2014 at 11:31 PM
What would it explain Cap'n? I always thought he was sexist as he'll. I guess women can be sexist too.
You're right about the sexism, as I've commented on before, but he fits with some of the Republican hags who hate Palin with a visceral passion. They should have a quilting party or something.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 21, 2014 at 11:36 PM
I think he acts a little bitchy.
Posted by: Sue | February 21, 2014 at 11:38 PM
Capn', that Palin, she's dumb. She dragged down Johnny McLame. If not for her, Johnny McLame would have lost by only 7 or 8 points.
Posted by: Gus | February 21, 2014 at 11:40 PM
Speaking of which Julianne Moore, is looking very genuine,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2552588/Julianne-Moore-reports-Hunger-Games-set-Atlanta-following-death-frequent-star-Philip-Seymour-Hoffman.html
Posted by: narciso | February 21, 2014 at 11:42 PM
Don't bring up McRINO, Gus, because I think he destroyed her political future by snagging her for his trainwreck of a campaign. Just another thing to thank "my friendsh" for.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 21, 2014 at 11:43 PM
It's always nice when the hair matches the outfit, narciso.
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 21, 2014 at 11:49 PM
Am I the only person on the planet that doesn't even know if half the things people are talking about (Hunger Games, House of Cards, whatever else) are movies or television shows? My interest in all of them is nil.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 21, 2014 at 11:50 PM
Exactly Capn' McLames' dear Friendsh from across the aisle.
As they kicked him in the balls.
Posted by: Gus | February 21, 2014 at 11:52 PM
Just pretend it's about POI or Burn Notice, Captain. People like to talk about stuff they like to watch.
Posted by: AliceH | February 22, 2014 at 12:01 AM
(Hunger Games, House of Cards, whatever else)
Captain,
I am with you. I haven't followed a TV series with any interest since probably 15 years ago. However, Momma and my youngest just came in from watching "The L:ego Movie" and they both loved it.
Posted by: daddy | February 22, 2014 at 12:02 AM
I noticed one of those here, noticed how many actors on poI have appeared on hoc, either mere guest, or multiple appearance, particularly the one who played Agent Mark Snow, a truly feral character,
Posted by: narciso | February 22, 2014 at 12:05 AM
I'm always behind the curve for movies and tv shows, Captain. Surprised I caught a Brawndo reference. Must've been on Comedy Central when I was half asleep...
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 22, 2014 at 12:07 AM
Is there a generic female pronoun?
Caller to Dennis Miller's Show today during a discussion on Manmade Global Warming said there was no such thing as Manmade Global Warming. He said there was only Female Global Warming and that it was all due to just one gal, Mother Nature.
It was beautifully delivered and got a good laugh.
Posted by: daddy | February 22, 2014 at 12:10 AM
"when the case is dismissed as it will be."
I sure hope you're right, Clarice. I have read a few ominous quotes from the trial judge, which suggest that victory, should it come, may have to await the appellate level, after huge expenditures of cash. I will try to get more up to speed on this struggle.
Nytol.
Posted by: Danube on iPad | February 22, 2014 at 12:49 AM
Oh yeah? Well I nailed about a 30" redfish in front of the Flamingo Motel in Panama City Beach Wednesday night about 11:30 pm.
I was with a couple of guys I was working with and we were pretty wasted after a couple of hours at Shuckums. We were yelling so loud (I was using a spinning rod with 8 lb test) that some hoser (the place was infested with snowbirds) called the cops.
He was a jerk, and was kinda pissed when I actually produced my non resident fishing license.
Helluva a night.
Posted by: Donald | February 22, 2014 at 01:15 AM
I sure hope you're right, Clarice.
Me too.
Posted by: daddy | February 22, 2014 at 01:27 AM
Just pretend it's about POI or Burn Notice, Captain. People like to talk about stuff they like to watch.
Well yes; but there seems to be a hierarchy of what the "smart set" approves which garner all the Emmys, none of which include the two shows you mentioned. Maybe they're good; I don't know because I don't have cable which is probably a good thing because I spend too much time watching tv as it is.
But what do I know; I thought the Leggo Movie sounded like something that was indicative of how tapped out Whoreyweird was on intelligent ideas only to find out from daddy and other people whose tastes I respect that it's really quite good and creative. So maybe those shows I mentioned earlier are too.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 22, 2014 at 06:13 AM
To clarify about the Lego Movie, I had the negative reaction when I first heard the movie title without knowing anything else about it.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 22, 2014 at 06:17 AM
The Hunger Games is part of the new dystopian genre of young adult fiction that is currently in vogue. Conservatives should embrace this as almost all of these books are about a government controlling every aspect of its citizens' lives, under the guise of "doing what is in their best interests." This series is definitely the best of the bunch, and the movies do justice to the books which were written by a Hollywood screenwriter. Check them out.
Posted by: Robin, looking for the pitchforks right after I put away the snow shovel | February 22, 2014 at 04:24 PM