He's Rarely Wrong But This Times He's Right

On the future of the ObamaCare debate:

Our guess is that the debate over whether the debate over ObamaCare is over will be over on Nov. 5.

Can't argue with that.

Comments

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Time for a TomM recitation update about psych drugs and mass shooters.

[GMax]

I think the guy was on Zoloft too, and there seems to be an aggressive streak that is triggered in a lot of folks on these anti anxiety meds. I think the Joker in Colorado was on one too...

[GMax]

That's definitely not a JOM first.

In fact it was done so often once upon a time, that we coined the phrase "larwyned the thread" in honor of Larwyn who was a master 4th degree at it...

[matt]

To me the best analogy to Obamacare is like taking a 15 year old Hyundai that really needs service (our health care system)and removing the exhaust pipe, and then the alternator, and then the accelerator pedal, and then the brake hoses, and then the brake pads and still expecting the car to run.

But the Hyundai has spinners and $3,000 dollar rims, so it's all cool for the Left.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

GMax-- TomM covered this after Newtown ( I believe) there is a high correlation between these shooters and Meds. Chalk up another one apparently.

[Clarice Feldman]

Palin is the first I think to carry Anonamom's message--let the troops carry on base. Enough of this nonsense.

[GMax]

Surely you jest. A correlation between mental illness and random shootings? How are they going to confiscate the guns then...

[GMax]

Matt and then giving the brake hoses and brake pads to a guy who never had any brake work done on his beater, cuz it really really feels good to be that charitable ( with your parts ).

[lyle]

let the troops carry on base. Enough of this nonsense.

Hear, hear!

Too lazy to look it up but I'm almost certain the rule to disarm the military on base was promulgated in Clenis's admin.

[GMax]

The Hill tells you the crowing is pretty damn muted, and cant we just talk about something else? Get a load of the BS Rep Cleaver is shoveling too:

while a handful of Senate Democrats staged a Tuesday press briefing to cheer Obama-Care enrollment, there were, notably, no vulnerable Democrats in attendance.

Their desire to shift the emphasis, even after a week of good press is, at least in part, a concession that the healthcare law remains a liability for Democrats, particularly in swing areas they’re hoping to pick up in the House and keep in the Senate.

And it’s a political liability some members readily acknowledge, even as they’re defending the law’s underlying policies and touting its benefits.

“When you consider that the ACA has been trashed for four years, and people have been led to believe there are really death panels, and you’re going to end up with rationed healthcare, a substantial portion of the American public still believes that stuff,” Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) said Wednesday. “Our goal is to win the election.”

[lyle]

I'm a linking fool today:

http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2014/04/03/stinkburgers-and-meanwiches/

Walsh is always worth your time.

[Jim Miller]

Here's the latest on the Oso Mud slide.

Warning: There is some finger pointing in my post.

[MarkO]

Frau, you should see my toothy grin. Caps.

Ambien not been berry berry good to me.

[rse]

New post up www.invisibleserfscollar.com/tackling-the-dilemmas-of-collective-action-requires-a-shared-cognitive-base-the-ipcc-adaptation-trilogy-begins/

Going to the cited support in the actual report makes the intentions of using education globally to create desired beliefs inescapable. Always good to pay attention to the footnotes and biblio. These radicals so love to cite each other.

[GMax]

Don't look now but Franken may have to go back to stealing from the Boys and Girls Clubs:

a new poll of Minnesota likely voters commissioned by American Encore and conducted by Magellan Strategies:

Only 41 percent of respondents had a favorable view of Sen. Franken, while 45 percent had an unfavorable view of him. Only 44 percent approve of the job he is doing.

• 54% of respondents disapprove of the Affordable Care Act, and only 38% approve.

• Only 40% of respondents think Al Franken deserves re-election.

Obviously, Minnesota is not easy territory for Republicans, and very few folks had this race on even the broadest target list for 2014. But maybe he’s not quite good enough, not quite smart enough, and doggone it, people just don’t like him enough.

40% reelect for an incumbent is horrible...

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Do Repubs have a decent candidate for Minnesota?

[GMax]

And we now know the 7 million is absolute lying by a serial liar:

One of the biggest players in Obamacare's exchanges says 15 to 20 percent of its new customers aren't paying their first premium—which means they're not actually covered.

The latest data come from the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, whose members—known collectively as "Blues" plans—are participating in the exchanges in almost every state. Roughly 80 to 85 percent of people who selected a Blues plan through the exchanges went on to pay their first month's premium, a BCBSA spokeswoman said Wednesday.

[lyle]

Franken: a fraud elected by fraud. A meta-fraud if you will.

[lyle]

Found it:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/11/end-clinton-era-military-base-gun-ban/

[Jane]

How can 46% of people approve of Obama? How is that possible?

[lyle]

Drugs, Jane. And/or mental insanity.

[Danube on iPad]

The Hitler-in-the-bunker thing has been a bit overworked, but this is really good:

http://safeshare.tv/w/jyeqLxShwx

[sbwaters]

Easy click to rse: Tackling the Dilemmas of Collective Action Requires a Shared Cognitive Base: the IPCC Adaptation Trilogy Begins

[Jim Eagle]

From Drugs.Com:

"Ambien may impair your thinking or reactions. You may still feel sleepy the morning after taking this medicine, especially if you take the extended-release tablet, or if you are a woman. Wait at least 4 hours or until you are fully awake before you do anything that requires you to be awake and alert.

Some people using this medicine have engaged in activity such as driving, eating, or making phone calls and later having no memory of the activity. If this happens to you, stop taking Ambien and talk with your doctor about another treatment for your sleep disorder."

[Jim Miller]

One thing to remember about the Franken election in 2008 is that an Independence Party candidate, Dean Barkley, won 15 percent of the vote.

The final official vote totals were:
Franken - 1,212,629
Coleman - 1,212,317
Barkley - 437,505

(I don't know how Barkley's supporters would have voted, if he were not in the race.)

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Never ever use Firefox for any purpose: http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/03/mozilla-ceo-resigns-after-uproar-over-his-opposition-to-gay-marriage/

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

These psych meds....

[lyle]

Good reminder, Jim. I had forgotten that. However, weren't there some "found" ballots that were all, mirabile dictu for Franken, marked 'D'?

[rse]

Thanks sbw.

Just noticed that. My word but what is cited by who they cited is graphic. Must not have thought it would be traced back while still getting all the elements of the Great Transition lined up.

Scoundrels.

[centralcal]

Yeah, but now I need to figure out a replacement browser. Can't stand and won't use Internet Explorer.

Firefox became Fascistfox and I am verklempt.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Dump Firefox now... if not sooner.

[Dave (in MA)]

"Mozilla CEO Forced Out For Holding Same View On Social Issue As Obama Until May 8th, 2012"

If I wrote headlines.

[Dave (in MA)]

--
Retweeted by JWF
Joel Gehrke ‏@Joelmentum
Weird, FEC records show that Mozilla employs a bunch of people who donated to Obama when he opposed gay marriage.
--

[Threadkiller]

Minnesota has roughly 1.7 million LIVs. Maybe more.

[DrJ]

ccal,

The usual replacements would be Chrome (Google) or Opera. I use Chrome on most computers and it is OK (albeit rather clumsy for some things). ManTran likes Opera, but I never have.

Personally I'll stick with Firefox on one computer (Chrome uses too much memory), and use Chrome on the rest.

[Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet]

I have firefox installed but have not used it much at all. I am uninstalling today.

[lyle]

Score one for the Gaystapo with an assist from the...IRS:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/04/03/the-fascist-thugs-win-one-firefox-ceo-steps-down/

[Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet]

Uninstalled.

[Danube on iPad]

Who say 46% approve? Haven't seen a number that high in a long time. Must be an outlier.

[Jim Miller]

lyle - Yes, there were dubious votes in that 2008 Minnesota election. I didn't follow that election closely enough to have a strong opinion about the result..

(There's a long discussion of some of the issues in the Wikipedia article on the election. In general, I am suspicious of the fairness of all articles on politics at Wikipedia, but it may give you some sense of what the sides were arguing over.)

[Extraneus]

Wow, they got the Mozilla guy. And Breyer and the "liberals" all voted in McCutcheon that the First Amendment is a collective right, not an individual right.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

McCutcheon dissent? Do you have a quote?

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

Who should be the face of the Rep Party?
Sarah Isgur Flores; Deputy Communications Director at Republican National Committee

Or this goof?

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

we like sarah. Can she get votes?

[lyle]

I'll take your word for it, JM. One hates to reach broad conclusions about an entire state based on who they elect as one of their senators, but...Al Effing Franken?

Sigh.

I guess he's no more of a loser than the majority of the other Dem senators.

[Extraneus]

NK:

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=348321

[Extraneus]

NK:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304441304579479393186825228?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304441304579479393186825228.html

[Extraneus]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/04/02/breyers-dangerous-dissent-in-mccutcheon-the-campaign-finance-case/

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

Dammit all. I'm dumping my Firefox immediately and using Chrome to make sure I'm not helping a company run by a bunch of Bay area lefties.
And it's almost certain that Norwegian software developers are freedom loving right wingers.

[narciso]

Shirley he can't be serious, but we were told we had nothing to fear from Justice Breyer,

[Ranger]

BTW, don't just uninstall. E-mail them and tell them that you are, and will never use their product in the future because if their intolerant attitude.

[Porchlight]

One of the biggest players in Obamacare's exchanges says 15 to 20 percent of its new customers aren't paying their first premium—which means they're not actually covered.

And let's remember that some unknown portion of the 7.1 million aren't customers of any insurance company at all. Why? Because all they did was place a plan in their Healthcare.gov shopping cart. That's it. They're not enrolled in anything at all. Insurers have never even heard from these people.

[narciso]

Apparently, Yanukovich was not taken at face value;

http://www.interpretermag.com/category/blog/

[lyle]

Hear that, comrades? Free speech is a collective right according to four SC tyrants judges.

Man, those re-ed camps are going to get full soon...

[DrJ]

You may as well get rid of Thunderbird while you are at it, as they are another project of the Mozilla Foundation. Personally I don't care for it much, but most of the other options are worse.

I'll stick with Evolution on my main box. No, you can't run that one.

[narciso]

Much as the Cuban advisors in Venezuela, that the Times can't spot:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/03/ukraine-fingers-russian-advisors-and-ex-president-yanukovych-in-february-massacre.html

[Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself]

Here is a post on the IRS leaking the donor names - http://www.nationalreview.com/article/362667/investigation-ids-irs-leaker-eliana-johnson

It is infuriating.

[lyle]

You may as well get rid of Thunderbird

You'll get my Thunderbird when you pry the paperbag-covered bottle from my cold, dead, hands from my nest under the overpass.

[DrJ]

lyle, that took me a couple of readings to understand. LOL!

[lyle]

IRS: We'll break the law and you can't inquire about it because we can't talk about ongoing cases of breaking the law.

[Porchlight]

Janet, some people are saying that the Eich donation info was not an IRS leak but instead came from the list of Prop 8 donors that was posted on the CA SoS website and that a judge eventually ruled must stay public.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Judge-Prop-8-donors-have-no-right-to-anonymity-2323493.php

I don't know and can't verify anything, but I guess it is possible that the info didn't come directly from IRS via an illegal leak.

[lyle]

Thanks, DrJ. Probably more in line with the moron horde comments at Ace's but I couldn't resist.

[Threadkiller]

"Breyer turns constitutional history on its head, by declaring that the purpose of the First Amendment was not to prevent government abuses, but to ensure ”public opinion could be channeled into effective governmental action.”"

ECL?

[anonamom]

Geez, I got that immediately, Dr. J
Guess those rotations at Wayne County General and the internship at Boston City served me well.

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

One more year of the gap toothed pervert.

[Dave (in MA)]

FF-dumpers rest assured that the Chrome Tampermonkey extension supported the Narcisolator just fine.

[DrJ]

Well, I was thinking about software and not ripple. Is mental inflexibility a sign of old age?

[Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself]

Here's an old blog post on some of what happened - http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/human-rights-campaign-leaks-list-of-pro-marriage-donors-and-their-addresses/

[Eric in Boise]

I've gotten so I always make sure to end a post with unitalicized text and then preview to make darn sure they're turning off. Breaking the thread with italics may not be a hanging offense, but it sure is embarrassing.

[lyle]

Guess those rotations at Wayne County General and the internship at Boston City served me well.

God bless you, anonamom.

[Danube on iPad]

Porch,I think you're double-counting at 5:49. The 15-20% who haven't paid sre the ones the insurers haven't heard from. Unless I'm confused....

[Extraneus]

If we could only get the Muslims on our side, these scumbags would be in their beds with the covers pulled over their heads.

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

Let me rephrase my 5:47.
How is dumping the product of a small, apparently chicken-hearted tech company for a gigantic, proven left wing and invasive one an effective or well thought out protest?

[Extraneus]

Revealed: Scalp-Hunted Former Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Confesses the Full Extent of His Vicious Anti-Gay Animus

If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us. -- Andrew Sullivan on "The Hounding of Brendan Eich"

With a cameo by B. Obama discussing his opposition to gay marriage.

[DrJ]

Exactly right, Iggy. Also, Google provides substantial funding for Mozilla, and Opera now works off the Google rendering engine.

You could always try Lynx. :)

[lyle]

How is dumping the product of a small, apparently chicken-hearted tech company for a gigantic, proven left wing and invasive one an effective or well thought out protest?

Here's your answer, Ig:

I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!

Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Ex- thanks for the links. Taranto--as usual-- was tremendously informative and well written. Taranto includes this quote from Breyer: "Accordingly, the First Amendment advances not only the individual's right to engage in political speech, but also the public's interest in preserving a democratic order in which collective speech matters."
Breyer is not advocating no individual 1st amendment right to political speech, instead he advocats an additional collective right, which can come in conflict with individual excercise... and we all know where Breyer comes out when such a conflict (in his view arises. Breyer exposes himself as a statist, but he does not challenge the individual's right to political sppech. He does make it conditional. Bad enough, but it doesn't allow us to say that the dissent votes that the 1st amendment is not an individual right.

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

Can Andrew Sullivan name a single person hounded out of his or her job by the "religious right" for a nominal campaign contribution to a pro gay marriage campaign?

[Account Deleted]

Porchlight,

On or about April 23, WellPoint will publish their 10Q and provide comparative information on numbers covered from which reasonable estimates can be inferred regarding market total coverage. There will be blather from all sides until that date but the accuracy of WellPoint's report will be governed by securities law rather than political whim. (WellPoint is BluGovIns in a number of major markets and their premium increase requests in May/June will reflect the average market impact. They may run a little high due to having the Sodomcisco, Gomorangeles and Mansluttan AIDS volunteers in their Invincible bracket.)

[Extraneus]

So it's a dessert topping and a floor wax.

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

Good point, lyle.
Unfortunately, for some reason, any mention of that movie brings the nightmarish image of Donald Sutherland in only his shirt and those Ichabod Crane legs sticking out of them.

[lyle]

Funny, when I think about that movie I think of a kiln explosion...

[Extraneus]

Does anyone have dibs on Erika Johnsen?

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/03/un-climate-panel-by-the-way-we-should-probably-cool-it-with-the-biofuels/

[Extraneus]

A senior Russian diplomat says U.S. officials should do yoga and watch TV comedy series to ease what he calls their irrational fixation on punishing Russia over Ukraine.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_ODD_RUSSIA_US?SITE=TXPLA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

She was gonna make me a pot.....

[Eric in Boise]

OT (as usual), but props to Mick and the boys, and screw that loathsome Roger Waters, whose music I love, unfortunately:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/04/01/rolling-stones-reject-bds-head-to-israel/?intcmp=obnetwork

[narciso]

And Kevin Bacon being trampled by the mob, 'Chip Dillard' saying 'all is well'

[narciso]

'we don't need no thought control' ironic how those lines sound now,

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Animal House is a treasure trove of lines. It may have been the last funny film by Libs to poke fun at everyone, including doctrinaire Libs. Fun Fact-- 35+ years ago it was my wife and my first official 'date'. Saturday night at the Smithtown Theater. We sat in the second row; stoners were in the first row. While I was laughing hysterically at some politically incorrect moment, stoner in front row turns to my 'date' and says 'your boyfriend is a pervert'. My wife tells the stoner "he's not my boyfriend... turn around and STFU." I knew I was in love.

[Captain Hate]

One hates to reach broad conclusions about an entire state based on who they elect as one of their senators, but...Al Effing Franken?

They also previously elected Jesse "where did the body go" Ventura for governor. Both of them are statewide voting so I think it's safe to say the entire population can die in a fire.

[Eric in Boise]

Indeed, Narc. The progs are all about thought control provided you're on their side. If not, they complain about it.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Al Franken played the mildly retarded Amtrak worker in "Trading Places". Type casting.

[narciso]

Well they were noting this, with Harold Ramis's passing, Stripes was similar, strongly patriotic yet antiestablishment, they invaded Czechoslavakia after all,
Ghostbuster poked fun, at the universities and the EPA, which was the major villain,

now they are so sanctomoniously liberal, it's nauseating,

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

OK-- I'll go with Stripes and Ghostbusters being funny and fair Lib films after Animal House. Since '84 all doctrinaire comedy sanctimony. Pitiful.

[narciso]

Groundhog Day is the exception that proves the rule, Fletch wasn't outwardly political either, they're remaking it with Jason Sudeikis?

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

I'll grant one other-- "Coming to America" Genius comedy and not doctrinaire.

[boris]

but it doesn't allow us to say that the dissent votes that the 1st amendment is not an individual right

Pretty sure it's not called "dissent" unless the argument presented is opposed to the majority view.

Perhaps the text of the dissent does not argue against individual interpretation, but seems to me the fact that it is a dissent does.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

Groundhog Day wasn't doctrinaire, but it wasn't sanctimonious either.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

now where's that scientific method... I left it here somewhere.

[narciso]

waving the bloody shirt like Musket Morgan, on the other hand;

http://twitchy.com/2014/04/03/gun-grabbers-attack-sarah-palin-for-wanting-fort-hood-soldiers-armed/