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April 25, 2014

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Jane

OT: Who do you think Hillary would name as her VP?

Captain Hate

Frau, I can't even look at a bottle of that without feeling queasy. Sickeningly sweet imo.

Yes, why does Saint Gabby get something more than a garbage scow and the late Judge John Roll, among others, gets not a thing?

Frau das Gesetz ist das Gesetz

Wasn't meant for you, jimmyk. It's what is heard daily and in the case of Issa, it was used to attack him.

rich@gmu

fdcol63-

>>>Then they reversed themselves and claimed it WAS a tax before the USSC.<<<

I think the confusion was the administration in part of oral arguments argued it was a tax and later in oral arguments argued it was not a tax. Why it wasn't 9-0 to strike it down in whole is beyond me?

rich@gmu

Frau-

some so co, ginger ale (works better if you can find some Blenheim), and lime is ok but I avoid so co.

narciso

because they didn't want to be 'on the wrong side of history,' or something,

sbw

What is the best mixer, if any, for Southern Comfort?

Janice Joplin.

rich@gmu

>>>Posted by: Clarice Feldman | April 25, 2014 at 06:16 PM <<<

I love you Clarice. You're my favorite.


>>>Posted by: narciso | April 25, 2014 at 07:44 PM<<<

I'd like to find this history character and punch him in the nose.

narciso

he's likely to have body guards with brass knuckles,

BB Key

Jane , VP choices:
Barney Frank
Susan Rice
Michelle Obama
The Sanchez Sisters from California

Danube on iPad

"NW football reportedly voted down union today by large margin"

Just saw a clip of some NW Exec stressing that the votes wouldn't even be counted until the NLRB haring takes place and a ruling is issued.

narciso

'history is a stern schoolmarm;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/breaking-us-officials-say-russian-fighter-jets-have-flown-into-ukrainian-airspace/

Danube on iPad

I don't understand anyone to be apologizing for not being a lawyer. To me, IANAL is a polite way of acknowleging a lack of professional education or expertise while nevertheless expressing an opinion. Leo G. Donofrio, for example, INAL. Orly Raitz IAL.

Frau das Gesetz ist das Gesetz

BBK - It's a three dog ticket. Run the Sanchez sisters as a brace with Hillary!

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

Yeah...look & see who spoke at the 2012 DNC convention.

maybe him -
"...the keynote speech was delivered by 37-year old San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro."

or him -
"Convention chairman Antonio Villaraigosa, mayor of Los Angeles,..."

Villaraigosa was the guy that had to pretend the Dems voted to put God & Jerusalem back in the Dem platform while the entire place booed...so he is a team player for sure.

daddy

John Brown's Body lies a-mouldering in the grave
All you kuala's and you Kangaroo's behave...

An OT on music.

I am taking this with grains of Salt but I find it worth mentioning.

Just in from The Happy Mexican saloon in memphis where I was reading Lefty Aussie Tim Flannery's book on early explorers of Australia, "The Explorers."

He says this:

In February 1869, G. W. Goyder, surveyor-general of South Australia and martinet, was dispatched to survey and found the settlement of Darwin. He was watched by the Larrakia people who, when they decided it was safe to contact the strangers, held a corroboree, giving pitch and word perfect renditions of "John Brown's Body', "The Glory Hallelujah', and "The Old Virgina Shore'. This 'white fella corroboree' had been traded from the Woolna people, who memorized the tunes while lying prone in the wet grass at night, spying on surveyors who were working near the Adelaide River."

That surprised me as the Adelaide River is 1,900 miles (as the crow flies) south across that desert continent from the settlement that became Darwin, and according to WiKi, "John Brown's Body" was only popularized in the States in 1861, and overlaid BY "Battle Hymn Of the Republic" in 1862. Yet somehow it's popular amongst the Abo's in pre-Darwin territory in 1869, via Adelaide.

I find it interesting to learn how that tune and lyrics could have migrated within just a few years all the way down to Adelaide from the States, then have been listened to by some Aborigines at nighttime, and transported up to Darwin 1900 miles north by the Abo's and taught to the local tribes as a sort of communal dance tune.

I'm skeptical, but I suppose it's possible. Flannery does not link to the source but says it is in some unpublished work in some Sydney Library archives.

Perhaps I'll see if I can dig it up in the NSW Library's next Sydney Trip.

BTW, I am unable to find out who and when was the first visit of an Australian Aborigine to visit America. The Internet is full of sites saying Aussie Abo's colonized America just like the Atlanteans did and the Egyptians supposedly did and the Mormon's supposedly did, but as for the actual real guy who came over and got his name recorded for doinf so, I can't find it.

narciso

transparency, it should be tried sometime:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/25/4080747/judge-philly-newspapers-to-be.html

btw, NBC News stands 1000% behind Gregory, you know what that means?

Beasts of England

'...but the forgotten six who died didn't even get a t-shirt.'

Some animals are more equal than others.

Strawman Cometh

Overworked recently, don't have anything to add to this dsicussion. But Mark Levin's sub hostess has mentioned that the TP challenger to McConnell has taken up, or gotten swept up in, Cock Fighting Decriminalization. I am disappointed that she conflated dog and cock fighting. Calling in

narciso

Didn't see what the BluGov chocolate rations turned out to be;

http://weaselzippers.us/184047-aetna-ceo-obamacares-on-the-fly-changes-responsible-for-half-of-2015-double-digit-premium-jump/

daddy

Who do you think Hillary would name as her VP?

Corey Booker.

and the late Judge John Roll, among others, gets not a thing?

Looks like just yesterday they named a new Federal Courthouse in Yuma after him: New courthouse named for judge slain in Tucson attack

Frau das Gesetz ist das Gesetz

Exactly, Beasts. The rest of us will have to assemble in the far off First Amendment assembly pen.

narciso, unfortunately that means Gregory will *not* be fired to spend more time with his family or practice his French skills.

narciso

Didn't recall that, but back when there were book clubs, one of the first I got was a copy of Robert Hughes 'the Fatal Shore' his history of Australia.

daddy

Here are the larrakia from the 1920's.

narciso

I'm sure he's dying to comment;


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/three-occupy-domestic-terrorists-get-prison-terms-for-5-8-years/

Clarice Feldman

Looks like the fall Milan runway preview.

daddy

:)

Miss Marple

Well, that settles it.

O'Reilly says Pope John Paul II's sainthood should have been held up, because he didn't have Cardinal La arrested.

Father Morris pointed out that the Pope doesn't have the power of arrest, but that was in the hands of the Boston authorities, who didn't do anything.

Never mind, O'Reilly's opinion is the canonization should be postponed.

I think I am going to turn the TV off.

Miss Marple

Early bedtime for me; I have an early auction to go to tomorrow.

Good night, everyone!

pagar

War on !

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/women-in-mini-skirts-drove-islamists-to-plot-bomb-blast-at-holy-mosque/

You cannot make this BS up.

Jane on Ipad

A gay, a black or sisters. Yikes!

Obama is about to issue an executive order allowing all illegals to stay (and provably vote). When the hell will we impeach?

narciso

Ask Garfield, or McTurtle, they're working on some cunning cunning plan, and can't be bothered.

Danube on iPad

He continues to think that if he's nice to them they'll return the favor:

"Since leaving the State Department last year, Hillary Rodham Clinton has racked up scores of accolades and appeared on many a big stage. Still, it might come as a surprise that a past Republican presidential nominee -- specifically, the one who is among the loudest critics of Clinton's handling of the Benghazi terrorist attacks -- would invite her to his desert retreat for a lofty conversation about leadership values.

"This is precisely what Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has done."

Beasts of England

…for a lofty conversation about leadership values.

Have they announced who will be providing the knowledge of leadership values? Must be a third party involved in that conversation.

narciso

Who knows what Grimmatongue is speaking into Theoden's ear,

Clarice Feldman

Gosh, DoT--it's hard to even picture anyone stupid enough to write such drivel.

Threadkiller

"This is precisely what Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has done."

http://theobamafile.com/_conspiracy/TheSenators.htm

He is in her debt.

narciso

Ah, Phil Rucker, they have no shame, and Vizzini would slap right into the river,

narciso

the four dimensional chess move, to basically shutter the space program, then sanction the Russian boor, who is our liason to the few launches that do occur, genius,

Skoot

"the votes wouldn't even be counted until the NLRB haring"

That's what I thought odd. Any reporter with a relationship with the players could ask off the record. What's to stop them from answering? Reportedly 60 out of 75 no's. The official tally hardly matters. The full board will eventually overrule the local board, I believe.

narciso

Just 'turtles all way down' skoot,

Beasts of England

David Fontana at New Republic swoons for the Wize Latina and the style of her recent dissent, calling her a national treasure. Thankfully, he eschews hyperbole.

Both the author and the lady justice are being skewered in the comments. One leftist water boy tried to come to their defense and was slattered. So many well-reasoned and eloquent rebuttal comments that it is refreshing.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117501/sonia-sotomayor-schuette-dissent-national-treasure

narciso

there is a method to his madness;


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-fontana/

note his CV,

narciso

Oh, he has her on his trapper keeper;

http://www.law.gwu.edu/Faculty/profile.aspx?id=9950

Frau das Gesetz ist das Gesetz

I know women in northern GA and AL I would identify as truly wise over our braggartly Latina--who needs a gigantic portion of humble pie for her birthday.

narciso

this is what I was referring to earlier;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/25/russian-official-under-us-sanction-plays-key-role-in-pentagon-space-program/

Danube on iPad

As I understand the W. Latina's dissent, which I have only read about but have not read, it goes like this:

(1) Race matters;

(2) Affirmative Action has helped me personally; and therefore

(3). The U.S. Constitution forbids the people of Michigan from preventing its use in admissions to Michigan public universities.

Wotks for me.

boatbuilder

The "inequality" debate assumes that there is something wrong with unequal economic outcomes. Those who attempt to argue that there is less inequality than the lefties claim have already conceded the point, and therefore lost the debate.
The question should be asked--what is wrong with inequality?
It is bad that many people are poor. Why is it bad that some people are wealthy?
The assumption is that the wealthy are wealthy because they have unfairly taken from the poor. While there are instances of this happening (particularly but not exclusively in socialist dictatorships) it is demonstrably untrue that a deserving person becoming wealthy deprives anyone else of anything.
LeBron James makes a lot of money. Would anyone--anyone--be better off if he were hanging out on street corners in Akron?
Bill Gates is incredibly wealthy. Would anyone--anyone--be better off if Bill Gates made $100K a year and the PC didn't exist?
Try this intellectual exercise--Would you be happier or better off if either of those guys were worth 10% of what they are and you were worth 75% of what you are? Would anyone? Inequality would be substantially reduced--why is that good?

narciso

Meanwhile the real world cruelly intervenes;

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Apr-25/254470-as-iraq-violence-grows-us-sends-more-intelligence-officers.ashx#axzz2zx4SwEXw

boatbuilder

It occurs to me that Kevin Durant might be better off if LeBron were hanging out on a street corner in Akron. But that would exacerbate inequality because Durant is filthy rich already. Which is apparently wrong but I'm at a loss as to why. Until this is explained to me the people pounding the inequality drum are simply playing on envy, a base instinct.

Beasts of England

@boatbuilder: Agreed. The zero sum fallacy is the foundation for most of their arguments. It's impossible to discuss the subject with those who use that as their point of departure.

Danube on iPad

Beats and Boatbuilder, I think you guys are talking about what is sometimes called Pareto Efficiency (after an Italian economist named Pareto). His elegantly simple thesis was that if the distribution of assets can be changed in such a way that at least one person becomes better off, and none worse off, that change is to be desired. Krugman, Obama and the whole host of these vermin disagree strongly: if someone at the high end can be made worse of, evenf with no one becoming better off, that is desirable because it reduces envy and resentment.

Danube on iPad

"Democrats have attacked a trio of Republican Senate candidates for not being born in the states they seek to represent. While the issue could matter in a close race, there are four dozen senators who prove that birthplace isn’t necessarily a stumbling block to getting elected.

"Just more than half of current senators, 52 percent, were born in the state they now represent. The other 48 senators were born in another state, or even another country. For example, Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet, the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, was born in India and Texas Republican Ted Cruz was born in Canada."

This is an outrage. Sen. Bennet's allegiance is--permanently--to India, so he cannot be trusted to represent the people of Ohio. And of course Cruz should be arrested as a Canadian spy. Allegiance is allegiance.

daddy


This afternoon the 2014 Nenana Ice Classic contest was finished.

Thats the contest, started in 1917, where locals set a tripod on a frozen Alaskan River and bet on when the Ice will melt/break-up, and the Tripod will have moved down the river and crossed a finish line.

Today it crossed just after 3 PM.

Only 6 times has it crossed the line earlier, and twice before it has gone out on this data.

Last year it went out on May 20th, tied with the latest it has ever gone out. $363,000 prize money will be doled out to the winners who bet most correctly on when it would cross the finish line.

Going out today does not surprise me, as you guys took so much of our snow and ice with that Polar Vortex business, but I suppose this will be touted by AGW folks as new proof of something.

Threadkiller

Good thing India has since abolished jus soli to avoid such scenarios.

Danube on iPad

"Good thing India has since abolished jus soli to avoid such scenarios."

And poof! - Sen. Bennet's allegiance vanished with the stroke of an Indian pen. Funny thing, this allegiance. (It helps if you know some Latin. Better to comprehend those magic spells.)

Gus

Danube, we as Conservatives spend FAR too much time, trying to refute, fight or battle LIES, tossed at us by the LIBTARD DISGUSTING TRASH, such as it is. We are constantly back pedaling and trying to proclaim our innocence vis a vis THEIR CLAIMS. The LEFT knows this. The left is NOT HONEST. There is no reason to debate them. If they have decided that they CANNOT LOSE, then debating them is futile.
If someone is hell bent on DESTROYING ME for whatever reason. I will fight them with everything I've got. I see ZERO reason to play by their rules, Alynski's rules or to even think that I have to be held to my own decency.

anonamom

Boatbuilder, thanks for your post on inequality.

A bit more nuanced than my fallbacks--"there will always be a 1%"
and "Jesus said 'the poor will always be with you.' "

But really, there will always be that top 1%--and a bottom 10%--and I want the market (people) to determine the 1%, not the (almost always corrupt in some way, shape or form) government.

Jane, any inside dope on Justina? There is no way I can catch up.
This working full time over the school breaks is extremely disruptive to my JOM reading.

Threadkiller

And poof! - Sen. Bennet's allegiance vanished with the stroke of an Indian pen. 

The real poof was when you made "since" disappear.

anonamom

TK, before anybody else wakes up--a few of your favorite Ada Boni recipes?

Dublindave 2016

" I, you know, I drive by the government housing in Las Vegas and I see the negros sitting on a porch doing nothing and I wonder would they be better off as slaves picking cotton"

--Ronald Reagan

Miss Marple

Morning, all!

Just a quick hello before I head out to an auction. Beautiful day here in Indiana. Hope you all have a great day!

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

this is funny (I was looking through old FB posts last night)-

"5000 years ago, Moses said to Israel, "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." When Welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land." Today, the government has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land to China."

James D.

Bill Gates is incredibly wealthy. Would anyone--anyone--be better off if Bill Gates made $100K a year and the PC didn't exist?
Try this intellectual exercise--Would you be happier or better off if either of those guys were worth 10% of what they are and you were worth 75% of what you are? Would anyone? Inequality would be substantially reduced--why is that good?

Here's another intellectual exercise.

Krugman is worth (let's be really conservative here) $2 million in net worth. And he has $500,000 per year in income (surely it's higher, but let's pretend).

The fifty homeless people he walks past on his way into his infrequent visits to the NYT offices have a net worth of, say $100 (whatever possessions they have on their person), and $10,000 per year in income (let's assume $30/day in panhandling money).

So his net worth is 20,000 times higher than each of those homeless people. And his income is 50 times higher.

By his logic, his wealth ought to be taxed at, say, a 95% rate. That would leave him with $100,000 in net worth, and, if we redistributed it equally to those 50 homeless people, they'd each suddenly have a net worth of $38,000. Instead of having 20,000X their wealth, Krugman would now only have 2.61 X their wealth. That's MUCH more equal, and fair!

And we could tax Krugman's income at 90%. He'd have $50,000 of income left over. And the homeless people would each get $9,000, so they'd be at $19,000 per year income. Krugman would then only have 2.63 X their income.

Wouldn't everyone be better off this way? Inequality would be reduced! The 1% would have less concentrated wealth to pass on to their undeserving heirs! The poor would be uplifted!

I will eagerly await Mr. Krugman's response to my proposal...

narciso

Well more significantly they are attacking veterans in Alaska, Arkansas, Maryland, what does that tell you,

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

and that's the rub, isn't it? Why don't all the rich leftists just start giving away their money. Nobody is stopping them.
They should give the check-out clerk an extra $20 like a tip...just to even out life.
Send their savings to the federal government. They can DO IT now....no need to write any new tax laws.

http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html

"Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs. These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.

Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782

You DO IT, Paul.

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

‘Patriotic millionaires’ demand higher taxes, but unwilling to pay up [VIDEO]

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/17/patriotic-millionaires-demand-higher-taxes-but-unwilling-to-pay-up-video/#ixzz2zznlE7DJ

The video is wonderful. Michelle Fields does a great job.

pagar

I second the proposal by Janet. All the rich people who desire to be poor could accomplish that in a matter of minutes. Just give it all away.
--------------------------------------------
It is apparent that reading glasses don't help if no one reads what is written.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/administration-has-missed-more-than-half-of-obamacare-deadlines/

I have listed all the politicians that give the impression that they care below.

narciso

Surprise, surprise;

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/report-obama-admin-never-defined-al-qaeda/

Jane

Anonamom,

All I know is the legislature met this week for 2 votes, one on Justina the other on naming the state sandwich the fluffernutter. They only had time to vote on the second.

Deval keeps saying there is a report showing the father's neglect. Since they DHS never visited him that's impossible and the CT people said there was no neglect.

Protests continue.

James D.

I truly hope that, come Judgment Day, Deval Patrick and everyone involved in this evil kidnappings and imprisonment of a sick child, receive exactly as much compassion and fairness from their Judge as they have shown to Justina and her family.

jimmyk

Bill Gates is incredibly wealthy. Would anyone--anyone--be better off if Bill Gates made $100K a year and the PC didn't exist?

This is a tougher question than you might think. My hatred of Windows knows no bounds.

jimmyk

I second the proposal by Janet. All the rich people who desire to be poor could accomplish that in a matter of minutes. Just give it all away.

They will argue, disingenuously, that what they care about is the distribution of income, and that any individual effort by themselves to give money away will have no overall impact. That argument rings hollow, as any dollar given to a poorer person should still be a good thing according to that way of thinking.

Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

--And poof! - Sen. Bennet's allegiance vanished with the stroke of an Indian pen. Funny thing, this allegiance. (It helps if you know some Latin. Better to comprehend those magic spells.)

Posted by: Danube on iPad | April 26, 2014 at 02:11 AM --

Did I miss someone else jumping into this issue first?

Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

--They will argue, disingenuously, that what they care about is the distribution of income, and that any individual effort by themselves to give money away will have no overall impact. That argument rings hollow, as any dollar given to a poorer person should still be a good thing according to that way of thinking.

Posted by: jimmyk | April 26, 2014 at 09:33 AM --

If it is a virtue to collectively compel the diminution of income inequality through the forcible confiscation of wealth from those who disagree with that notion then it is an even greater virtue for each individual who agrees with that notion to do everything they can voluntarily to reduce the inequality.

The idea that the millions of wealthy 1%er leftists couldn't significantly reduce income inequality through their voluntary private efforts is absurd.

The fact they refuse to and instead seek to compel people who disagree with their notions to do as they say indicates 1%er leftists are greedy scum who would confiscate their neighbors' wealth for their pet cause in order that they could keep more of their own rather than give all they have for what they consider a virtuous cause.

narciso

You will note that Carlos Slim's chimps, Blow and Collins, competed to misunderstand the Bundy matter.

narciso

special warfare strikes again


http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/26/latvia-defense-minister-accuses-russia-of-destabilizing-through-professional-provocateurs/

meanwhile European firms are unwilling to break the hug of Sochi Bear,

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

Here's that Michelle Fields video on YouTube. I couldn't get it at the Daily Caller link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9dfaSOn5o

narciso

Matt Ridley, provides an interesting insight;

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304279904579517862612287156?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304279904579517862612287156.html%3Fmod%3DWSJ_hp_RightTopStories

narciso

Well it would get in the way of the narrative;

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/04/cnn-analyst-welches-on-bet-after-andrew-branca-wins-stand-your-ground-debate/

AliceH

From my US Congressman:

"Recently the EPA proposed expanding the definition of "waters of the U.S." in the Clean Water Act to include all man-made bodies of water, ponds, ditches, flood plains and even standing water in potholes."

Whoa. That is some insane fascistic stuff right there. So far, appears there is a bi-partisan response in form of writing letters of concern. That'll do it, surely.

Danube on iPad

Utah ranked nerdiest state:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2613568/Welcome-nerd-heaven-Utah-nerdiest-place-US-study-finds.html

narciso

shirley, these people are insane;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2613708/FBI-investigates-animal-rights-group-linked-Mayor-Bill-Blasios-campaign-EXTORTED-opponent-carriage-horse-ban.html

Porchlight

Has anyone mentioned re: Piketty that the millions of zero-income people crossing our southern border tend to widen the income gap just a tad?

narciso

Well then we would have to bring up his own country's ban lieus, and that gets in the way of the triumphalism,

rich@gmu

Porchlight-

that isn't mentioned or how that reduces wages at the bottom of the income scale explored (more supply of labor reducing the price of labor).

savings is bad? or maybe not quite that strong ... The Paradox of Thrift.

[snark] or all that money could be better spent by angels bring the good news and good works to the darkies of the world [/snark]... all managed by tenured, pastured California professors and NYTs columnists.

Is this about the longest post that our host has produced?

Captain Hate

Did anybody watch Hawaii 50 last night? I'm surprised CAIR hasn't whined 24/7 over the depiction of radical Islam and its recruitment of a cute dumbass. The difference between shows like that and CBS news is like AoS and Kos.

narciso

Yes, I did, Captain, yes it was refreshingly correct, meanwhile on our putative side, they have to conced the lie;

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2014/04/26/george-zimmerman-cliven-bundy-and-the-importance-of-separating-principles-from-people/

narciso

On balance, CBS is less prone to BDS written scripts, CSI did the only piece about the photoshop jihadist, even the Intelligence show, is fairly down the line, whereas NBC will have a piece where some nere'do well, will be put in a pic with Ted Cruz,

Captain Hate

All David French needed was a few uses of "in fairness" to be straight Poppin'.

rich@gmu

>>> Piketty et al. have, however, found ways to merge tax data with other sources to produce information that crucially complements survey evidence.<<<

>>>But by using all the tricks of the trade, plus some educated guesswork, Piketty is able to produce a summary of the fall and rise of extreme inequality over the course of the past century.<<<

why am I thinking tree rings, temperatures, and hockey sticks?

narciso

Well that was the point, Crook was tip toeing
around that point, one can also add Bellesiles special archives.

boatbuilder

I do not know enough about Bill Gates or PC's or the internet to say whether he actually "earned" any more credit for the PC and the internet or the computer revolution than Al Gore (OK I do know that much) or anybody else. What I do know is that essentially all of the enormous wealth (not individual wealth but economic growth) generated by the computer revolution is something new--it was added to the economy without taking away money or income or benefit from anyone (other than industries made obsolete by the new technology). This is a good thing--and it conclusively refutes the zero-sum theory on which the "inequality" argument is premised. Lots and lots of people became fabulously wealthy, many many more became merely well-off, many, many, many more are gainfully employed, and it is hard to think of any person or group in the even moderately developed world which hasn't experienced a net benefit from this new technology. Why is it bad that a side effect of this--or any other innovation generated by the capitalist profit motive--is that some people get rich?

boatbuilder

[apostrophe misuse--mea culpa]

rich@gmu

K/O Paper Products (HI 5.0 producers) seems to like profitable entertainment ventures ... but have had a few stinkers (Cowboys and Aliens).

rich@gmu

maybe i ought to go to Hollywood and get into the movie business ...

rich@gmu

>>>Why is it bad that a side effect of this--or any other innovation generated by the capitalist profit motive--is that some people get rich?

Posted by: boatbuilder<<<

ATMs cause unemployment!!!

[kidding, well stated]

rich@gmu

tap, tap, tap ... is this thing on?

henry

Rich, it's on. Beautiful day, things starting to get green. Far too much to do outdoors. Occasional need for next beer.

rich@gmu

that is what I'm doing wrong!!!

I need to be outside [it is overcast here but not bad] with a cold beer.

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