Per Hillary, We Need A Trigger Warning On The Phrase "Trigger Warning"

Hillary Clinton is not a fan of free thought, free expression, or the Second Amendment. And if guns actually "terrorize" Americans then surely the phrase "trigger warning" merits a trigger warning.

Comments

[Threadkiller]

Have you ever been an Arab? Do they run their banks the same?

[Thomas Collins]

" Dusty and dinghy and almost no cash held there. "

I never knew that the individual who managed bank vaults also manages the Federal Government's trust funds!

[Old Lurker]

I'd just like to see a couple of dozen "public servants" spend what Scooter had to spend on his lesser offense...

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

But wouldn't a central bank's foreign exchange clearinghouse location have lots of foreign currency on hand? That was the basis for the ISIS story. But who knows what is true between the Jihadis, the Iraqis and the Media.

[jimmyk]

I am not disputing GMax, but I'm curious about this: According to the St Louis Fed (FRED database), total vault cash in the US is about $65 Billion. Elsewhere I read that there are about 100,000 bank branches. Divide $65 billion by 100,000 and get $650,000 per branch. Now that sounds high, so where is all that cash? In transit? Mostly concentrated at 10 or 20 branches? That would be useful information for us bank robbers.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

JimmyK-- what about foreign currency in Fed clearinghouse banks? Not many locations, but each one should have a fair amount of currency, no?

[Danube on iPad]

"Camp should just name names."

Better still, leak them.

What argument am I losing, and with whom? I didn't even know I was having one.

[jimmyk]

NK, no doubt, but I didn't think foreign currency counted as "Vault Cash." And if I'm robbing a bank, getting a bunch of Euros and Yen isn't what I'm really looking for.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Gmax:
Hit ever been on a board of a bank? Ever been an officer of a bank? I have been both, and at different times.

Gosh no. I was just a lowly "runner" at a small bank in East Texas back in college. Three branches in town, with the north branch just a drive up location.

One job was to take cash from branch to branch.

Small town, East Texas, we didn't need no armored cars. We just had an old beat up pick up truck and two of us would ride together.

Not unusual to take $20K at a time.

Small town, East Texas, early 90s. What a time to be alive!

[DebinNC]

Does the Repub leadership team include anyone from the South? Cantor is nominally Southern, but that's about all imo. McCarthy-CA, Boehner-OH, Ryan-WI, and the wannabes are from IL, ID, MI, and some guy nobody seems to like from LA? I don't get it, especially the two IL reps hoping to replace Cantor. After BOzo, IL is now and forever dead to me.

[NK(withnewsoftware)]

JimmyK-- I was referring back to the ISIS story; they supposedly boasted an Iraqi Central Bank location holding a lot of FX currency. Supposedly.

[jimmyk]

Hit, somewhere I read about the old days (19th century) in NYC where at the end of the day the NYC banks would clear by having guys literally walk gold from one bank to another at the end of the day. Kind of hazardous duty, as you can imagine, and eventually they figured out that they could replace it with paper certificates of some sort.

As to the $400 million, I thought this had been reported as taken from a "Central Bank." In other words, the Iraqi equivalent of Fort Knox. Not from some local bank branches.

[Beasts of England]

Wow, Ig! A black Merak SS? My favorite mid-engine Maserati in my favorite car color. Beautiful ride, Ignatz!!

[jimmyk]

Sorry, our posts crossed, but we're making a similar point. I'd heard there was gold and other assets, but yes, it was a "Central Bank," whatever that means, as it wasn't Baghdad.

[Extraneus]

I don't suppose senate.gov could be subpoenaed for a quick search of emails to/from Lois Lerner, Holly Paz, Nikole Flax, or Doug Schuleman, could they? How about after November?

[Dublindave 2016]

Great seeing the Liz and Dick Cheney's infomercial for a new Iraq ground invasion. The majority of Republicans still support Dick Cheney's 2003 push into Iraq looking for WMD and an astonishing 87% of registered Republicans say that they wish Dick Cheney was in charge of present day American Foreign policy.

We need to use the Cheney's infomercial in Hillary's 2016 campaign, over and over again....to let America know what's in store for them should they nominate a Republican.

[glasater]

Thanks TK and Ignatz!

Would write a better explanation for the 'thanks' but I've gotta go to work :-)

[Beasts of England]

And speaking of banks and cash and exotic vehicles, I was in tedious negotiations with a certain dealership regarding a certain car and we were about $5k apart. I finally asked him 'How about a cash deal?' And he knew I always write checks, i.e., no banks involved, and asked what I meant. I said cash, cash. He said ok.

Went to my bank and tried to cash a check for the amount (don't really wanna say how much, but more than $10k) and - other than the teller looking a guy with holy jeans and his shirt untucked trying to cash a nice check - she called the head teller, who told me 'We don't have that much cash. We can order it.' Order it? Order it? Two day wait.

They did, and it fit in four of those zippered bank bags (which I got for free!!!) and I walked outta there like it had paper clips in them. And, of course, bought the car...

[Threadkiller]

That cash delay scam prevents runs on the bank, BoE.

[cathyf]

What is the evidence that a crime has occurred?

Sorry, my CGI comment was unrelated to my RICO/IRS comment.

My comment about the link between CGI and the Innocence of Muslims PR campaign is more about being intrigued by the concept of a company that is simultaneously a "defense and intelligence contractor" and a "Health-care IT contractor". (Having been a contractor, I could only have dreamed of the sort of job security that I would have gotten if I had been involved in a dirty ops with a client...) As a former Chicagoan, I am well familiar with how government functions when the politicians are in business with the Outfit (aka "First Ward") and criminal gangs.

What Shoebat is noticing is all somewhat obscure but in the public domain.

-- We have a guy who made an anti-Muslim video, who is supposedly a Copt but may in fact be a Muslim. The guy in question is on parole with some weird restrictions which would make him unusually susceptible to blackmail.

-- The video was incredibly obscure until a PR campaign was launched by a company that described itself as an "intelligence contractor."

-- The video maker had no obvious means of paying for the PR campaign. (Or the movie, for that matter.) This may be of little significance because the guy is a convicted con man and con men have uncanny abilities to get money.

-- The PR campaign succeeded in generating viewers for the movie from among jihadis. Considering the subject of the movie, it appears to be designed to warn westerners who are ignorant about the history, beliefs and activities of Muslims, and who would learn about those things by watching the movie. But the PR campaign mostly got radical Muslims to watch.

-- The government's relationship with the parent company to the "intelligence contractor" that carried out the PR campaign is somewhat unusually tolerant of incompetence and failure to meet deliverables. This is also not necessarily significant, in that the government is more often than not ridiculously incompetent when it comes to supervising contractors and their own employees.

Coincidence? Sure, maybe. Or maybe this a bungled attempt to create a series of Reichstag Fire incidents that would allow the Administration to suspend the First Amendment in the weeks before the election? The Cairo embassy takeover has always looked staged and the administration's responses looked planned. Did they get overtaken by events and improvise when real terrorists staged a real totally unexpected attack in an unexpected place and screwed up the administration's planned Cairo black op?

I'm just asking questions about events which are curious and only get more curious over time. The Reichstag DID burn down, and the Nazi's DID take advantage of it to seize total power. This is not just the wild imaginings of conspiracy theorists, it's history. A history which has harshly judged the German people for being taken in by the political theatre.

[Thomas Collins]

BOE, the first words my eyes went across in your 11:11 AM post were "$10K" and "exotic", and I said to myself: This guy really knows how to party in the champagne room! :-))

[Extraneus]

Andrew McCarthy:

Obama’s ‘Blame the Video’ Fraud Started in Cairo, Not Benghazi

[Beasts of England]

I'm sure it does, TK, but when I picked it up, it was in reserve bank packaging and they brought in the money flapper and unwrapped, counted, and rebanded every $2k sleeve.

[sbw]

name him after me

Hit J. Run, Jr.

or

HitNRun

[Jeff Dobbs]

Speaking of Maseratis - one of the guys in our neighborhood is the GM at a local foreign car dealership. He's always driving something or other home. Last Thursday he showed up to poker in a Maserati.

Unfortunately, never could entice him to throw the keys in on a really big pot.

[Beasts of England]

Is it Foreign Cars Italia, hit? That's a pretty nice dealership!!

[Beasts of England]

lol, TC!

[Jeff Dobbs]

That's the one, Beasts.......

[Jeff Dobbs]

On topic: Trigger Warning

[MarkO]

Of course, now if one deposits or withdraws cash in an amount of $10,000 or greater, a report must be made. If one makes a series of such transactions near that amount, it can also be a crime, one called "structuring."

[Beasts of England]

Amazingly, I've never bought a Ferrari from them, hit, although I have talked to them a few times over the years...

[Old Lurker]

To be clear, MarkO, the crime of structuring is if the intent was to get around the reporting requirement. If reported, you can get as much cash-cash as you like.

For now, anyway.

[lyle]

If one makes a series of such transactions near that amount, it can also be a crime, one called "structuring."

Not quite. Money laundering is the crime. Structuring is part of that. (I only have to do three or four CE courses every year on money laundering.)

[clarice]

Geez--more H & R dna..CONGRATS!!!

[Beasts of England]

Tell me about it, MarkO. After my divorce - and after the embarrassment of having every financial transaction examined by lawyers and judges - I withdrew, after the ordering delay, a similar amount from the car transaction, and was lectured by my bank president about those kinda activities. And because he's one of my best friends, I was able to share with him my very frank and colorful assessment of the FBI watching my checking accounts. Bastards, all.

[Beasts of England]

similar *to*

[Porchlight]

Or maybe this a bungled attempt to create a series of Reichstag Fire incidents that would allow the Administration to suspend the First Amendment in the weeks before the election?

That's what I worry about.

I think the Bundy ranch mission was an attempt by the Feds to provoke armed revolt. It didn't work, but eventually, another attempt might.

Sounds crazy, I know, but who would have thought we'd be to this point today with an unhinged executive?

[cathyf]

If one makes a series of such transactions near that amount, it can also be a crime, one called "structuring."

Or, if you run a convenience store open 24 hrs/day in a neighborhood where you don't want your employee to be alone in an unlocked building in the middle of the night with large amounts of cash, you might think that you could solve that problem by making frequent deposits that ensure that there is never much cash in the store. You are also violating the law by doing THAT, and the government can seize your bank account.

[Porchlight]

Already linked I'm sure, but I probably won't be able to catch up today:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/19/irs-lost-emails-from-official-that-met-with-top-obama-assistant/

Almost certainly there are emails somewhere that state that Obama was briefed on what was going on. An email from Sarah Hall Ingram already mentioned an "Obama salvo" in a speech.

Let's say one or more of these emails eventually does surface (maybe via whistleblower). What happens then? Will it be enough to change the picture dramatically, or will the usual suspects still cover up/stonewall?

[MarkO]

When one reports a number of $10,000 cash transactions, one can expect to hear from the DOJ, DHS and the IRS. It's like driving a red car fast on the freeway.

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

Cathyf says everything I attempted to say in the last thread regarding the video, only she says it much better.

One other aspect is, IIRC, the guy who actually made the video had a close associate in his previous activities with radical muslim connections, not exactly the kind of pal a supposed Copt interested in denigrating Muhammad and Islam would ordinarily have.

[matt]

Now you have me having to decide on cars, Iraq, Hillary, or the IRS.It stuns me that the major press have been silent on the IRS scandal. Instead, the LA Times had an op/ed 2 days before Father's Day on how Father's Day is male-ist or something because it doesn't include sperm donors or lesbians with naughty bits attached or something. It has become a completely bizarre world.

The Telegraph has reported that the Saudis have told the US to butt out in Iraq. The Sunni- Shia war is now officially underway. Think of it as the World Cup with a body count.

Where I live we have a plethora of exotics these days to the point where "what's the point?" They are no longer exotic.

98+% of all Porsches or Ferraris or Bentleys or for that matter muscle cars (maybe 80%)are still in garages. But when 3 yuppies up he street all have a variation of the 2013 Porsche 9 Series I just laugh.

An old girlfriend who was the ex of a very wealthy guy years ago told me that those kinds of cars are for men with tiny units.

The people I respect are the ones who can ID a Bora or '63 split window Vette or a '62 Alfa Guilia on sight. We have something locally called Cars & Coffee and it's sad to watch the bling crowd and the wannabee. I like to talk to the guy who turns a Pinto into a funny car or the guy with the perfectly restored VW bus or Hudson. You don't ask "why?". There is no "why" with car guys. It just is. Western European cultural zen. And now they want us to drive microcars. F them.

[narciso]

Maliki isn't the problem, recall Filkin's piece, back then, it was Jaafari, the respectable London eye doctor, who put Bayan Jabr in the health ministry, who created the innovation of hospital militias, he then moved
over to Interior, and finally housing,

Arango does out in Carlos Slim's, that Maliki
told Khalizhad of this move by the Baathists,
but told him he was paranoid, well Delmore Schwartz's rule applies,

[Jeff Dobbs]

matt:
An old girlfriend who was the ex of a very wealthy guy years ago told me that those kinds of cars are for men with tiny units.

Shots fired!

[lyle]

I don't know what driving a Lexus GX470 means, but I damn sure love it and really don't care otherwise. :0

[Threadkiller]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=compensator%20truck

[AliceH]

Catching up.

Does anyone else think the judge's use of the term "composite" very odd?

I'm not going to check, but I recall that was the term used in the dissenting opinion. No idea if it was also used in the majority one.

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

-- We have something locally called Cars & Coffee and it's sad to watch the bling crowd and the wannabee. I like to talk to the guy who turns a Pinto into a funny car or the guy with the perfectly restored VW bus or Hudson.--

Yeah, it's disappointing that so many car guys are priced out of the market or at least priced out of the cars they like because of the blingsters.
One of the favorite projects I read a story on years ago was a guy who somehow shoehorned a hemi into an original Mini. Now that would be fun.
And, my last comment before the car talk gets too boring, let me just say even as a Mopar guy the chrome bumper C3 Corvettes seem like a screaming deal at the moment.

[cathyf]

On Tuesday and Saturday nights the high school performing arts programs have been doing 80s Movie Nights as a fundraiser. This Tuesday was Ferris Bueller and so all this car talk is lots of fun given the car subplot. Speaking of which, the house is for sale right now -- lots of pictures in the Daily Mail story.

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

--First time I said it I credited you (and someone else who had also beat me to it).

Posted by: Danube on iPad | June 19, 2014 at 08:58 AM--

I should have used a smiley emoticon since I was only kidding, but now with your written admission you will shortly be receiving a demand letter from my solicitors.

[narciso]

Congrats hit and run jr,

[Beasts of England]

Shots fired? I had a girl I dated a few times a while back, and on our second date, she made a very direct comment of that nature. I didn't respond to her at the time, only laughed. I also never spoke to her again. Directly.

I told one of her friends - who I had also dated - about her comment and she laughed like heck. I asked her what to do. Hehe. She told me to text her a picture of, uh, my, er, uh, well, you know. And I did. And had the last laugh. She's still chasing me, but she'll never catch me...

[Jim Eagle]

Leaving Naples.

Is there anything more stressful than packing at the last minute and finding out you should have brought an extra bag for all the carp you bought. Actually, we have one bag packed for immediate transit back to the States.

More from Frederick when we have better access in Rome. Will be there 5 days then onto Firenze, Lucca, Carrara, Pisa, Siena, Perugia and Assisi before coming back to DC for the 4th.

[narciso]

Have you tried a career in country music, Beasts

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/gop-rep-anonymous-wh-staffers-shut-stand-back_795347.html

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

The most disgusting and dangerous thing Barry and the Dems in general have given birth to is not any specific foolhardy or destructive policy or even scandalous corruption.

It's their casual and hostile rejection of all of the premises upon which the nation was founded.
Their contempt for the founding principles of self reliance, limited and decentralized governmental power and individual rights being sheltered from governmental intrusion rather than guaranteed by an aggressively matronly nanny state amount to an intentional rejection of what until the last few decades all Americans recognized as the wisest, most valuable political bequest any country had ever been founded upon and given as its heritage.

The increasingly explicit intent of one of our two main political parties is a slow moving second American revolution to undo virtually everything the first one established.

That's a problem.
It remains to be seen if it is a problem with a political solution or if the solution will be an extension of politics by other means.

[henry]

Beasts, bags of cash have that effect. ; )

[Extraneus]

“They didn't need to do this,” concluded [Wall Street Journal editorial page editor Daniel] Henninger. “The Obama campaign machine was a wonder, perfecting the uses of social media in 2008 and 2012. But the Democrats were so crazed in 2010 by Citizens United, so convinced that anyone's new political money might bust their hold on power, that they sicced the most feared agency in government on people who disagreed with them.”

[jimmyk]

BofE: a guy with holy jeans

Does that mean you can see the Virgin Mary in the grass stains?

[Beasts of England]

Good points, Ig. Gonna be a long two+ years, huh?

Not my genre, narciso - can't compromise my limited principles that much! ;)

[Captain Hate]

He throws another interception: http://minx.cc:1080/?post=349925

[Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz]

Thought the story was about Beasts for a minute Capn;

Team GOP Very Excited That A Married Man Who Texted A Photo Of His Junk To A Much Younger Woman Endorsed Thad Cochran

[cathyf]

The people I respect are the ones who can ID a Bora or '63 split window Vette or a '62 Alfa Guilia on sight. We have something locally called Cars & Coffee and it's sad to watch the bling crowd and the wannabee. I like to talk to the guy who turns a Pinto into a funny car or the guy with the perfectly restored VW bus or Hudson. You don't ask "why?". There is no "why" with car guys. It just is. Western European cultural zen. And now they want us to drive microcars. F them.

My little town has one of the largest car shows in the country in relation to the size of the town -- about 5,000 cars and 30,000 people milling about. We close down the main streets and people drive their cars in and park and then we all walk around looking at the cars close up. Pretty good draw considering that the county only has 17,000 residents. The whole thing runs on a budget of about $1,000, funded by some sponsors and a 50-50 raffle. The city puts up extra trash bins and porta-potties, and a group of volunteers goes around until about midnight picking up any escaped litter, and by the next morning after the city hauls off the trash there is basically no sign that they were there.

Anybody who wants to come can come -- there is no admission, either for cars or spectators. Lots of the cars are beautifully restored masterpieces, but some are just great fun (1987 chevy sprint with 14-71 blown BBC anyone?)

Maybe some of you car guys could cruise on in? Would sure be a fun JOM meetup!

[narciso]

btw Brian Schweitzer seems to be aspiring to be Sgt Schultz's younger brother.

[Captain Hate]

Iggy please; I'd never accuse Beasts of endorsing Thad Cochran.

[Beasts of England]

Like this one, TK? Although he did have an absolute babe in the truck with him. Maybe another exception to the rule...

[Exasperated]

Obama to Clinton? Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

[Threadkiller]

Like this, cathy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEv0D9k_Grc

[Extraneus]

From the Darwin Awards, via Ace.

[Extraneus]

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[Beasts of England]

Y'all are having waaaay too much fun at my expense. Can't imagine what I've done to deserve it. lol

[lyle]

Hope you've taken your BP medicine this morning:

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/06/green-energy-for-dead-vets.html

[Threadkiller]

Here is a corny video for a great song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRkH_3ZmbU

[narciso]

Lord love a waterfowl, what is wrong with these
people,

[DebinNC]

BOzo is already 30 min. late for his scheduled Iraq remarks. Why even announce a time if he's not going to keep to it, as this delay supports the meme that he's indecisive and clueless?

[Threadkiller]

"Heads you lose, tails I win."

"I'll take that bet!"

[Extraneus]

Colorado governor tries to apologize for gun control measures, blames staff, then curses

The governor, a Democrat, offered a series of unusual explanations during a meeting he held last Friday with a group of Colorado sheriffs for why he signed legislation that restricts the sale of ammunition magazines of more than 15 rounds.

First, Hickenlooper blamed his staff for not anticipating the opposition on gun control. He then apologized for his staff’s inability to effectively communicate and promised to do better in the future.

When Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith pressed the issue, Hickenlooper snapped back, “What the f---? I apologized!”

[Threadkiller]

The delay supports the meme that his adoring fans will wait patiently for their emperor, IMO.

[anonamom]

45 minutes late

[MarkO]

Being chronically late is a form a passive narcissism.

He's really a nasty little man.

[narciso]

So will there be a Ransom of Red Chief, if they send Lurch over there

[Beasts of England]

Being consistently late is terribly rude. He's a punk and a jackass.

Left coast works calls - back on my head...

[DebinNC]

Reuters: Obama was meeting his national security team before making a statement on Iraq Thursday. In the meantime, the United States began flying F-18 attack aircraft from the carrier George H.W. Bush on missions over Iraq to conduct surveillance of the insurgents. The carrier was ordered into the Gulf several days ago.

BOzo is probably hoping a jihadi will shoot at a plane so he can claim he had to intervene in Iraq.

[Danube on iPad]

"that would allow the Administration to suspend the First Amendment in the weeks before the election? "

It can't be done. I don't mean to say that Obama wouldn't want to if he could, Other than habeas corpus, the constitution provides no means of suspending any of its provisions.

[Rick B]

“The Obama campaign machine was a wonder, perfecting the uses of social media in 2008 and 2012..."

So they transformed their Tweeterverse fantasy into Arab Spring and we get to watch the outcome in Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq. They brushed aside the failures of the Occupoopers and Madison idiots chanting "this is democracy" but Assad and his ISIS opponents, being rather more intelligent than a senile Mustang and more competent than Bishop Goldilocks, noted the practical functional utility of the simple tool and turned it, with #bringbackourhumvees treating the President and First Lady with all the respect they have earned.

I agree with CathyF regarding the video and I don't doubt that the 13%ers have hopes of the Obama Freeshit Army being called into the streets on a similar pretext with a declaration of a NATIONAL EMERGEBCY, precluding elections thereafter. It's a low probability scenario due to Obama's organ grinders having gone missing coupled with his stunning incompetence but I'm sure there are 13%ers still bitterly clinging to the fantasy in faculty lounges across the US.

[maryrose]

Incompetence-In-Chief.
Bammy loves to keep people waiting as he wrongfully assumes we either care or want to hear his dumb-ass drivel.

[maryrose]

RickB;
So true. Once again you have summed up our deplorable situation with your excellent post.

[anonamom]

I volunteer to watch

[DebinNC]

BOzo, Biden, Kerry, Hagel, Brennan, Clapper, Gen. Dempsey, various WH aides involved in WH Iraq discussion.

[Extraneus]

Surely it was a discussion about the statement, not the content of it.

[anonamom]

"What do you think is going on?" NPR host, Robin Young

[DebinNC]

BOzo must have tried to get foreign heads of state to back him today. Unfortunately, they all are aware BOzo's NSA spied on them. Maybe Qatar will come to his rescue again.

[narciso]

Iraq was not a stable regime, with perhaps the exception of Nuri Al Said in the mid 50s, Quassem, the Baathists made it worse, so I find
the pottery barn meme very annoying

http://20committee.com/2014/06/19/facing-americas-failure-in-iraq/

[anonamom]

"He could be doing something important."

or he could be grabbing a sandwich and taking a leak

[anonamom]

"again, we are waiting for President Obama."

as per routine.

maybe booking a tee time for Saturday morning???

[DebinNC]

Maybe Gen. Dempsey is refusing to sell his soul to the devil.

[anonamom]

He's here!

[anonamom]

NPR is ahead of Fox on the audio.

We've increased reconnaissance assets (DUH!)

Joint ops centers

Additional equipment

300 advisors

developing info re: potential targets, and we may target them if and when we determine it's worthwhile

support stability

[Exasperated]

Remember the photo shoots with other dignitaries and that jackass waved to the cameras, blocking view of some other dignitaries? Here again this is classic Obama at his best, an embarrassment and a disgrace. For which we can thank the assholes who voted for that turd - not just once, but TWICE

[anonamom]

Above all, Iraq's leaders must come together---

National unity mtgs (I was a community organizer! and Harvard Law Review editor!)

[Stephanie]

It can't be done. I don't mean to say that Obama wouldn't want to if he could, Other than habeas corpus, the constitution provides no means of suspending any of its provisions.

YGBSM. The constitution? That old piece of paper old white guys wrote?

The one with the 4th amendment (and many others) that is continually ignored?

Obama doesn't feel he is constrained by anything. And who is gonna enforce that old piece of paper if he does try something? Holder? LOL

I didn't think you were that naive.

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Just back with a new Crimson Queen 4 yo Japanese Maple. Found a nursery locally that carries about 120 varieties and spent the morning getting edumakated on them. The owner propagates her own stock and has trees from newly propagated to 30-40 years old for sale.

Thanks for all the input on the trees, y'all. Now to go lose 8 lbs sweating in the 94 degree 90% humidity.