In a recent Times interview Obama dismissed the notion of arming the moderate Syrian rebels as "a fantasy". Reportedly his language was more colorful in a meeting with senior lawmakers:
President Obama got angry at lawmakers who suggested in a private meeting that he should have armed the Syrian rebels, calling the criticism “horseshit.”
Let's flash back to the Times for more:
With “respect to Syria,” said the president, the notion that arming the rebels would have made a difference has “always been a fantasy. This idea that we could provide some light arms or even more sophisticated arms to what was essentially an opposition made up of former doctors, farmers, pharmacists and so forth, and that they were going to be able to battle not only a well-armed state but also a well-armed state backed by Russia, backed by Iran, a battle-hardened Hezbollah, that was never in the cards.”
Farmers and pharmacists? From this 2007 paper I see that that all Syrian males (other than Jews) were subject to mandatory military service. And the rebels were buttressed by what CJ Chiver of the Times described as "a cadre of army defectors".
But maybe leaving them unarmed, despite Obama's bold words that Assad must "step aside", was meant to provide a salutory lesson in the importance of non-violent confrontation. Too bad Assad didn't play along.
What's horseshit is that a failed community organizer with no discernible resume would have the last word on important questions emerging from the real world.
Morning! Per Drudge,Obama says the water is cold in the Atlantic Ocean. He's just not that smart. Is that phrase trademarked? :) The media is already 24/7 with Robin Williams, so the real world will have to wait. Ugh,maybe I need more coffee!
Posted by: Marlene | August 12, 2014 at 08:07 AM
Actually,the media began to wallow in Robin William's death the minute the news broke. Enough.
Posted by: Marlene | August 12, 2014 at 08:09 AM
TomM--
I like the passion in your observation of Obummer. Nixon was a paranoid, Obummer is a clinical narcissist, but I bet Obummer has already begun wanderinbg the WH corridors (choomed up of course) raging at the portraits of dead white guys. Obummer is deranged and delusional, he's a dangerous man, except to the Muslim Brotherhood, the Mullahs and Putin of course.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 08:10 AM
"There are those who say providing a few guns to Syrian rebels would have ushered in an era of total world peace, and there are those who say it would have ended with full scale nuclear war with Iran and Russia. I reject this false choice as horseshit. Instead, I am proposing we deliver unicorn shit to those who would be our allies in the middle east."
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | August 12, 2014 at 08:12 AM
Robin Williams-- I liked his standup, his madcap comedy movies were fun (especially Garp), his dramatic roles were pretty mediocre for me. I learned from comments here that he was a Yalie and Julliard guy. I guess that explains why I saw him several times outside the Met Museum in the mid-70s doing street schtick, like the 'failed mime' act-- his street stuff was hysterical (and clean for the tourists.) RIP, just terrible that depression and addictions killed him. Just terrible.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 08:15 AM
Fred Hof agrees with you, TM
http://www.businessinsider.com/fred-hof-counters-obamas-famers-syria-argument-2014-8
the Saudis, Qataris, and the Turks, handpicked these rebels, which was hispolicy, I'll link my own blog post, which belied how moderate the opposition really was
Posted by: narciso | August 12, 2014 at 08:15 AM
If Facebook is an accurate barometer, which it probably isn't, he's wrecked the donk party unlike any other. The party of stoopid will have to try extra hard to squander this advantage.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 08:17 AM
Jane and clarice linked this on Facebook. When did Horowitz become part of NRO?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/384963/obamas-treachery-and-republican-silence-david-horowitz
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 08:28 AM
What's horseshit is that a failed community organizer with no discernible resume would have the last word on important questions emerging from the real world.
In other words, the American electorate is horseshit.
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 08:34 AM
--Obummer is deranged and delusional....--
I don't think so. Mostly he's just dishonest, is a profoundly wrong ideologue and is without honor.
He has insecurities and flaws of character. If he was truly nuts and suffered from delusions he'd deserve a lot more sympathy and have a lot more of an excuse.
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 08:36 AM
That Spanish priest with Ebola that they tried the vaccine on has died.
I'm sort of shocked that Sharpton has taken this long to fly out to St. Louis.
Posted by: Jack is Back (An I-95 Warrior) | August 12, 2014 at 08:48 AM
they will find a way, Captain,
http://narcisoscorner.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-syrian-imbroglio-by-narciso-old.html?view=sidebar
after all, Garfield nd his refield, saw it in their hearts to back the degenerate weasel from
Tennessee, DesJarlais
Posted by: narciso | August 12, 2014 at 08:49 AM
Life and death in the Iraqi mountains with the Yazidi.
At least the Syrian Kurds have provided an escape route and thousands are being saved.
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 08:53 AM
Clinical, or just deliberately and constantly dishonest... where is the line? I don't care frankly; he's the frikkin' POTUS and he is incapable of representing American interests, even if you define 'American' as his sad sack OFA parasite constituency. He's dangerous.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 08:54 AM
I think it is insulting to equine manure to call Obama horseshit. As an organic gardener, I have purchased equine manure in the past and found it very useful. Obama, not so much
Posted by: peter | August 12, 2014 at 08:55 AM
What is Obama's policy in Syria? Anybody know? I sure don't.
I find it sad the extent to which purported adults immerse themselves in celebrity culture including celebrity mourning. We are not talking about a Nelson or a Washington here.
Posted by: Porchlight | August 12, 2014 at 09:03 AM
This has to be a joke.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/11/dea-paid-amtrak-854460-for-passenger-lists-it-could-have-gotten-for-free/
Is there a contest in the federal government to see who can waste the most money?
Posted by: Pagar | August 12, 2014 at 09:07 AM
Well (welp to CH), NOW I can sleep better.
Weekly Std:
"John Brennan, who was then a senior adviser to the president and is currently the CIA director, explained the Obama administration’s counterterrorism strategy. “Our strategy is…shaped by a deeper understanding of al Qaeda’s goals, strategy, and tactics,” Brennan claimed. “I’m not talking about al Qaeda’s grandiose vision of global domination through a violent Islamic caliphate. That vision is absurd, and we are not going to organize our counterterrorism policies against a feckless delusion that is never going to happen. We are not going to elevate these thugs and their murderous aspirations into something larger than they are.”
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 12, 2014 at 09:14 AM
$
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7
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That's the average wage now for jobs which paid $61,637 in 2008, a decline of ~23%.
If Barry had one more term we'd be shipping our kids (and WeeDavey) to Honduras.
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 09:15 AM
What is Obama's policy in Syria?
I never did understand our Syria policy, even under Bush. Clearly there were thousands of insurgents coming across the border into Iraq, and many American deaths resulted, yet did we ever even threaten Assad over it? I guess we figured it was ok when we had forces in Iraq, since our guys probably used them for target practice, but we obviously didn't kill enough of them while we had the chance.
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 09:20 AM
Clinical, or just deliberately and constantly dishonest... where is the line?
You mean like that disappearing red one?
Back when we had an army in Iraq, we could've done lots of stuff . . . and should have. Even afterward, we could have supplied arms and enforced a no-fly zone over Syria, which almost certainly would've enabled a win by the opposition (back when there was one).
In short, practically anything we could've done would've been better than what we did do. (In particular, the on-and-off red line drill, followed by negotiations through Russia and implicit support for Assad was the worst of all worlds.)
The President would've been far better served by following Sarah Palin's facebook recommendations, rather than the poll-driven incoherence that he seems to've settled on. Even a bad strategy is better than none at all.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | August 12, 2014 at 09:21 AM
John Kerry in Australia: “There will be no reintroduction of American combat forces into Iraq,” he said. [The Guardian]
IOW, "Christians, prepare to die, because the U.S. will not impede the jihadi head-loppers approaching your door."
Posted by: DebinNC | August 12, 2014 at 09:22 AM
Brennan-- I was picking up my daughter at Fordham and waiting in the car listening to the Fordham graduation on the college radio station. Brennan's graduation speech was insipid, except when he talked AQ, then it was scary. The radio station replay of Cardinal Dolan speaking after the Bacc. Mass the night before was far more interesting, insightful and entertaining.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 09:24 AM
Memorandum says Iran backs the new Iraqi PM.
Meet the new boss......
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 09:25 AM
The Party of Neighhhhhhhh
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | August 12, 2014 at 09:28 AM
Obummer and the Mullahs back the same guy?... SHOCKER.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 09:29 AM
Just for Double Douchebag, I will provide the insight of Marist/McClachey on their latest poll. The poll appears to be an Adult poll, and if you don't just skip over my posts you know that the electorate in a midterm is SIGNIFICANTLY more Republican than the general population of adults.
Nevertheless get a load of this :
Sputtering. hahahahahaha
Posted by: GMax | August 12, 2014 at 09:30 AM
It's primary day in Wisconsin. I went to the polling place this morning, where I had to prevent the nice ladies from causing me to commit voter fraud.
They asked my last name. I said it.
They found the last name on the lists (there are two of them, each with a list).
They asked my first name. I said it.
They looked for the first name, and the first one, evidently not hearing me correctly, asked me to sign ... next to *my son's name*.
I pointed out the problem.
And said, smiling, "Voter ID would easily have prevented this." (The ID law has not yet gone into implementation.)
The lady chuckled and said, "Yes. We're not supposed to talk about that."
I said, "But I can."
This is not the first time this has happened to me.
Posted by: PD | August 12, 2014 at 09:31 AM
to Jack is Back.
My guess is Sharpton was waiting to see if the officer in question was black or white. They are keeping a pretty tight lid on that info, so now he can't wait any longer.
Posted by: selfanalyst | August 12, 2014 at 09:32 AM
If Barry had one more term
Am I a conspiracy nut to wonder whether he might?
Posted by: PD | August 12, 2014 at 09:33 AM
BOzo, Inc. hindering Inspectors General from investigating top gov agencies, including State, EPA, DOJ, DOE.
Posted by: DebinNC | August 12, 2014 at 09:34 AM
Why did you stop typing, Deb, the list goes on.
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 12, 2014 at 09:39 AM
Don't know if this Daily Beast story has been linked, but it describes how those dirty political parties pay their minority campaign workers less than their white ones;
What the doofus doesn't mention is that the study shows Reps pay all their staffers much more than Dems do and there is a much smaller disparity between what whites make vs black and Hispanics in the GOP than with the supposedly enlightened, purportedly minority loving Dems.
With Dems, much less pay and it's much more unequal;
Shucks massa, dat ol plantation mentality is pretty hard to shake, I reckon.
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 09:41 AM
Ok this is a sad story:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/12/california-police-chief-says-bank-robbery-hostage-was-killed-by-officers/?intcmp=latestnews
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 09:46 AM
The Dem Gangster Organization -- they do run it like a plantation, literally.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 09:48 AM
More from McClatchy. This is what is known as speaking truth to power:
Posted by: GMax | August 12, 2014 at 10:03 AM
as sherbet here is also an We Ask America poll of Illinois Govenor race. I would say this one is over:
Bruce Rauner (R) 51%
Pat Quinn (D-inc) 38%
Posted by: GMax | August 12, 2014 at 10:08 AM
This is worth reading. HT to Jim Geraughty of NRO who linked it.
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/robin-williams-why-funny-people-kill-themselves/
Posted by: Miss Marple | August 12, 2014 at 10:11 AM
America's most conservative cities
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM
Extraneus@10:15
That is one weird scale they used: From a "least conservative" value of -1.0 (represented by SFO) to a "most conservative" value of +0.41 (Mesa, AZ).... And "conservative leaning" is determined by falling in the range of -0.01 to -.19
Posted by: AliceH | August 12, 2014 at 10:24 AM
Outlaw Ned told Rooster Cogburn (in True Grit) "I'd call those bold words for a one eyed fat man."
Now when President Obama uses the term "horseshit", I'd call those bold words for a skinny little (and not too bright) narcissist. He couldn't tell a horse turd from a buffalo chip--but he's got the lying weasel part down cold.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | August 12, 2014 at 10:26 AM
I feel really sad about Robin Williams. depression is a misunderstood disease. In this case Williams was not really himself and couldn't a way to cope with it.Having a family history of this disease I empathize with his family members.I loved "Dead Poets Society" which launched the careers of Ethan Hawke, Robert Sean Leonard and Josh {Will} from the "Good Wife".
As to this thread's topic- Obama in lame excuse mode is nothing new. Hillary trying to grab a toe-hold on the back of Obama's failures is business as usual. Is there a more craven creature than Hil Clinton? She almost makes Bill look likeable by comparison.-almost...
Posted by: maryrose | August 12, 2014 at 10:26 AM
Clintons-- good observations. The Clintons have no real positions (of course they are Leftists, but they are Grifters first) they only 'position' themselves. Cankles dumping on Obummer is a reflection of how despised Obummer is by the voters needed to win elections. The Prog/Clintonista war is on... I don't fancy the chances of the old white Libs.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 10:31 AM
BTW-- the Dead Poets Society is one of the worst pieces of drek... evah.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 10:32 AM
INSTY is so right when he says:
"They’ve been wrong about a lot of things, and we’ve paid — and will pay — for that. But the sheer “I won” in-your-face immaturity of the Obamaites — remember the “Hey, Hey, Goodbye” chant to Bush at the inauguration — ensured that people would be angrier than normal. And they did that on purpose because a sharply divided nation suited them politically. Now Ron Fournier wonders if Americans would rally behind Obama after another 9/11 the way we rallied behind Bush, and I think the answer is no — because Obama has spent his entire time in office flicking boogers at half the country.
As I’ve said before, the reason why presidents traditionally act “presidential” isn’t because they’re stiffly formal, it’s because acting presidential, rather than purely political, lets you appeal to the whole country in ways that a pure partisan can’t. Obama doesn’t care, and we may very well pay for that, too. But elections have consequences, and when you elect a guy like Obama, the consequences are bad ones."
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM
Yes he is, NK.
Posted by: clarice | August 12, 2014 at 10:39 AM
"In other words, the American electorate is horseshit."
Bingo.
Posted by: Danube on iPad | August 12, 2014 at 10:48 AM
That's a great article that MM posted at 10:11.
This really hits home for me, because it's pretty much how I've felt for most of my life, too:
Every time they make a joke around you, they're doing it because they instinctively and reflexively think that's what they need to do to make you like them. They're afraid that the moment the laughter stops, all that's left is that gross, awkward kid everyone hated on the playground, the one they've been hiding behind bricks all their adult life.
If you don't have a strong belief in yourself, and on top of that if there's a family history (say, your father, and his brother, and his father, all succumbed to alcoholism), and if your faith in God is shaky at times, it's very easy to go to a really bad place.
The place where you just KNOW that if friends and family saw who you really are deep inside, they'd turn their backs on you in a heartbeat, as they ought to, and then you'd be completely alone, just as you know you deserve to be.
And as the article notes, once you're in that place, it's almost impossible to reach out for help, because you KNOW nobody wants to hear it.
(Even though that isn't true, of course. But when you're in that place, how can you possibly imagine that anybody else likes or loves you enough to help you, when even you don't like, let alone love, yourself?)
If you're lucky, you can find your way out of that place. Sometimes it's just a matter of keeping yourself busy until you can summon up enough strength or faith or SOMETHING that isn't self-destructive, to climb out for a while.
But if you're not lucky, you end up turning to alcohol, or drugs, or something else self-destructive, and it makes you forget that place for a little while, but of course when you sober up, you're even further away from anything good or healthy. Until, sooner or later, you're gone for good.
Posted by: James D. | August 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Dead Poet's Society was OK, though it was just another installment of the inspirational teacher bucking the system narrative that Hollywood keeps remaking.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | August 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Under Oath: IRS officials detail Lerner computer crash in declarations to court
Did they say that there were any emails stored on her hard drive? The implication is that the IRS has claimed that Ms. Lerner archived emails to her hard drive, yet the author doesn't provide a citation. Did they claim that? How would they know? They've also claimed that they haven't been able to ask Ms. Lerner any questions.I have yet to see an actual claim by the IRS that there were emails stored on that hard drive. Has anyone here seen documentation of such a claim?
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Amen, James D.
Re BOzo's "horseshit" utterance, imo that was the focus-grouped winning response his handlers produced, hoping it would evoke a macho, Pattonesque POTUS rather than the indecisive wimp BOzo has always been.
Posted by: DebinNC | August 12, 2014 at 11:01 AM
TK:
So sorry that you had to experience such tragedy in your life. It helps me understand your willingness to help others on this blog.
Bori:
An unimaginable loss of family life. for you. You are a strong person and an inspiration to others.
NK;
I have to disagree. "Carpe Diem" is how I live my life. Loyalty shown by the students in the 'Captain, My Captain" scene is a classic. Shy boy brought out of his shell by comaraderie and understanding of fellow students is inspiring. Maybe you have to be a teacher to be moved by it.
Posted by: maryrose | August 12, 2014 at 11:04 AM
Carpe Diem and loyalty are wonderful virtues and personal values. They were abused by the rubbish that was DPS... a story filled with Lefty sterotypes. To each their own.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM
UK Daily Mail (of course):
U.S. taxpayers spent $55,000 on travel expenses for Hillary Clinton's BOOK TOUR in Paris and Berlin – including a her $3,668-a-night hotel suite
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 11:10 AM
Deb:
Re BOzo's "horseshit" utterance, imo that was the focus-grouped winning response his handlers produced, hoping it would evoke a macho, Pattonesque POTUS rather than the indecisive wimp BOzo has always been.
BP pipeline spill flashback...
And just wait until daddy shows up to remind us the media's role in pumping up the macho image of Obama surrounding the al Megrahi release from Scotland...
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | August 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM
I'm gonna check out for a few days until the depression, death, and suicide threads end. While I'm oddly grateful to learn that these things are not uncommon, it's still too close to home for me...
Love y'all.
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM
"acting presidential, rather than purely political, lets you appeal to the whole country in ways that a pure partisan can’t. Obama doesn’t care, and we may very well pay for that, too."
The lesson is that when someone campaigns as being post-partisan, and says stuff like "we need a leader who can finally move beyond the divisive politics of Washington and bring Democrats, independents and Republicans together to get things done," it's a good bet that he will be exactly the opposite. Just like someone here was saying the other day about people who say how honest they are.
Of course most politicians pay lip service to that, but when it's almost the entire campaign, then you know it's phony. Give me a candidate who really says what he believes and wants to accomplish in concrete terms.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM
Re BOzo's "horseshit" utterance, imo that was the focus-grouped winning response his handlers produced, hoping it would evoke a macho, Pattonesque POTUS.
Ha, ha, ha! Fail. Can you say "Dukakis riding in a tank"?
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM
--They're afraid that the moment the laughter stops, all that's left is that gross, awkward kid everyone hated on the playground, the one they've been hiding behind bricks all their adult life.--
One of my best friends is a very pretty, sweet, single mom with the funniest personality of just about anyone I've ever met.
She was so hurt by her father and ex that she acknowledges she uses her humor as a wall to keep people from getting too close.
She's lovely and would fit in anywhere just as she is without the humor, so you don't have to be a pencil necked geek to have someone take away your security and turn you into the class clown.
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM
jimmyk, exactly --on both counts.
Posted by: clarice | August 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Braley Caught Again Making Elitist Comments About Iowans
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM
Humor can be a defense mechanism to keep people at bay.I understand Beasts point of view. It is uncomfortable to talk about it even among family members and some display more empathy than others. Mostly you want to ignore it and hope it goes away. Unfortunately , you can run but you can't hide. Sometimes stating the truth about the heredity factor can really offend people. Of course being the one who does not suffer from the disease can also be a challenge. Having God or a higher being in your life is a blessing. It helps to put your situation in perspective. I didn't let some of my closest friends know about my childhood for years. I don't know all of you well enough to share anymore at this time.
Posted by: maryrose | August 12, 2014 at 11:24 AM
I guess I am in the minority here. I think I have never once watched Robin Williams in anything, other than a few seconds accidentally while flicking the TV clicker.
/me thinks some more...
Okay, that's not true. He was the voice of the genie in Disney's Aladdin, right? I saw that.
Posted by: PD | August 12, 2014 at 11:28 AM
When you come back Beasts I will update you on my golf outing and the use of your advice last night. Thanks to you and everyone else for the tips.
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM
"Give me a candidate who really says what he believes and wants to accomplish in concrete terms."
I'd tag "and has demonstrated at least minimal competence in some aspect of adult life" onto that.
President Ad Hoc Horseshit was at his best eating paste in the closet in Professor Tribe's office.
Posted by: Rick B | August 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM
McArdle is out to lunch. Obama as a failure is far better than Shrillary as a success.
When every idea (from the Russian "reset" to redistributionist "stimulus," disengagement from the Mideast to national socialized health care, transitory "red lines" to minimum wage hikes . . .) is a bad one, getting less done is a feature, not a bug.
Democrats seem to confuse success of the presidency with success of the nation. And hence, if you're rooting for Obama to fail, you must be unpatriotic. It's a false equivalence fallacy.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | August 12, 2014 at 11:33 AM
Who but a pampered, jejune, effete mental homunculus would think using the term "horseshit" would seem manly?
Obama’s just not that smart©
Posted by: MarkO | August 12, 2014 at 11:35 AM
McArdle voted for Obama. And she's at a minimum an honorary juiceboxer.
Every so often, she writes something that's at least tangentially related to reality, but that's about the best I can say for her.
Posted by: James D. | August 12, 2014 at 11:39 AM
A short trenchant video re 0:
Obama Can't Hide From This Video
Posted by: glasater | August 12, 2014 at 11:40 AM
Obama says criticism of his "don’t do stupid shit" foreign policy is horseshit.
Nerds think it sounds cool.
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM
It's a false equivalence fallacy.
Yes, remember all the outrage at Rush over that? It goes hand-in-hand with Obama's hyper-partisanship and divisiveness. A President with whom you disagree, but who sees himself as leader of the entire nation, might inspire more benevolent feelings even from those who voted against him. But one who seizes every opportunity to belittle anyone who disagrees with him, rams through unpopular legislation just because he can, and is generally clueless about virtually everything while thinking he's brilliant, begets his opposition's hostility and wishing him to fall on his face.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 11:43 AM
Bush did none of those things and the other side wanted to push his face into the ground.
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 11:46 AM
McArdle is bright enough, and understands basic economic proinciples well enough, but she's a prisoner in the JuiceBox kingdom, she cannot step out of line too much or she will be excommunicated by the bigshot JuiceBoxers. pathetic.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 11:46 AM
From Daniel Greenfield:
But we wouldn't want Hamas "vanquished," or Israel to be "victors."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/hamas-killed-its-own-diggers-to-keep-tunnels-secret/
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 11:47 AM
"In other words, the American electorate is horseshit."
Bingo.
Stated like somebody who never intends on winning another election again. Seriously, what is a person supposed to take away from this but "woe is me and I'm so glad I'm so much smarter than those dolts who elected 404"? What positive takeaways come out of that?
Meanwhile Repuke Motors keeps coming up with a bunch of Edsels that all the Top Men say were "electable" until the public said "are you kidding me?" It's not the consumers' fault that they're given a bunch of beaters to choose from. They're waiting for another Reagan from a party that's determined not to give them one. I don't know why that's so difficult to grasp.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM
Paul Mirengoff over at Powerline defines:
For the record, and trust me on this, “horseshit” means bad; “bullshit” means wrong.
Posted by: Neo | August 12, 2014 at 11:49 AM
Bush did none of those things
True, ext, hence the "might." And our justified indignation at the left's behavior.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM
jimmyk/extraneous-- IMO you are both right. Obummer is a hatefuly little man, and the Left are a hateful, vindictive group. Obummer merits the pushback we give on a political and personal basis. He works hard to earn that from us. GWB worked to be a POTUS of every american and the nation first... The Left hated him even more for that, because they hate america.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM
They're waiting for another Reagan from a party that's determined not to give them one.
And let me try to preempt DoT's response by saying that I don't think CH meant "another Reagan" literally. We know Reagan is dead, and there may be no one quite like him. But there are good, strong candidates who have a chance to sway and inspire the electorate.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM
--Who but a pampered, jejune, effete mental homunculus would think using the term "horseshit" would seem manly?--
A candyass could write a letter to the Roman Senate stating "veni, vedi, vici" and it's still gonna sound like a candyass impersonating a man.
He's not that athletic and he's a pansy.™®
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 11:54 AM
What bothers me more than anything about Obama supporters is their lack of integrity. It's rampant.
Posted by: Jane | August 12, 2014 at 11:54 AM
So many consider suicide at one time or another. I certainly wouldn’t want to be a 20-30 year-old again, buffeted about by the world and an unharnessed mind.
But if one is corralled into considering premature termination, two revelations help: First, it’s hubris to think you can know what the future will bring, and, second, if you would end it all, make the action metaphorical and change previously "unchangeable" premises you were working under.
Walk in the park, play with rescued animals, weed a community garden, or take the time to listen, enjoy, and support someone else.
If you no longer matter to yourself, make yourself matter in other ways. You'll discover eventually that you matter to yourself after all.
You alone own your consciousness at your place in the universe and moment in time. Joy comes from deciding to do something with it.
Posted by: sbw | August 12, 2014 at 11:56 AM
"He's not that athletic and he's a pansy.™®"
I would use a more feline based noun for the last word of that sentence.
Posted by: NKinLimbo | August 12, 2014 at 11:56 AM
Thanks jimmyk; and I really have no basic disagreement with DoT on everything he wishes for the country. In fact I respect him a great deal. I just don't see things the same as he does on this.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Pardon repetition from threads gone by, but a leader doesn’t go to the front to point a new direction; a leader leads from within the crowd, a scribe who puts words to what ordinary people understand in their hearts but have yet to express clearly.
Posted by: sbw | August 12, 2014 at 12:00 PM
--"In other words, the American electorate is horseshit."--
The 19th century had some real clankers as President and someone as disastrous and transformative as Woody Wilson was elected twice 100 years ago so I don't know if the electorate is any worse than it's ever been.
Perhaps we're merely closer to our contemporary idiots so they seem more asslike than those distant idiots dimmed by the mists of time.
Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 12:03 PM
It's not the consumers' fault that they're given a bunch of beaters to choose from.
Fair enough. Still, the modern American electorate elevated a singularly unprepared, unqualified and unpatriotic man to the presidency. McCain ran a pathetic campaign, and I can hardly stand him, but he was none of those things.
People somehow thought Obama should be president. That was clearly horseshit.
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 12:03 PM
sbw:
Excellent advice. It is the process of looking inward that traps the suffering person. You have to get out of yourself and work or be with others that gives you an increased positive sense of self.
My dad gave me great advice that I used throughout my careeras a counselor. "People like to talk about themselves. become a good listener and learn their story.
"
Posted by: maryrose | August 12, 2014 at 12:04 PM
EXT:
The first time Obama won I thought ok maybe we can survive this. The second time he won I was in shock that so many people failed to see through him and his lies. Then I discovered by his strong-armed tactics wrt the IRS and using data-mining and voter fraud he stole the next election. I don't consider him the President. He just a guy who screws up and gives the presidency a bad name.He is useful comiserate with the harm he inflicts on the dem brand.
Posted by: maryrose | August 12, 2014 at 12:09 PM
I'm also sorry that I have to come down hard on Romney, who is a good man and I believe shared a lot of Reagan's optimism about the country. In fact around the first debate he made the best defense of the free market system since Reagan. He just didn't convince enough people and deserves to be judged accordingly.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 12:10 PM
Ex, Didn't Pelosi visit Assad while W was in office?
Posted by: BB Key | August 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM
You have to get out of yourself
Agreed, sbw and maryrose. I just don't know the cause and effect. People who have the ability to respond to depression by turning outward and helping others may have a residue of strength that others who just suffer lack. I've had a sibling who is stuck, and I've tried to suggest doing things--find a soup kitchen to help at, etc.--but she is too overwhelmed to pull herself out. Fortunately I don't think she is suicidal, though she is wasting her life away.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 12:16 PM
Fair enough. Still, the modern American electorate elevated a singularly unprepared, unqualified and unpatriotic man to the presidency. McCain ran a pathetic campaign, and I can hardly stand him, but he was none of those things.
People somehow thought Obama should be president. That was clearly horseshit.
McCain ran an absolutely horrible campaign and his dimwitted staff squandered the opportunity that selecting Sarah Palin gained them by torpedoing her at every opportunity. At the beginning of 2008 I couldn't understand why Rush and others disliked McCain so much; by the time the election was over I was surprised anybody could stand the sight of him.
Plus the electorate was still enamored with 404's convention speech from 2004. I recently went back and read the text and saw what a complete pack of opportunistic lies it was.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 12:18 PM
Why yes, yes she did;

Posted by: Ignatz | August 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM
Appropriately so, we called Bill Clinton a pussy, too.
Posted by: Exasperated | August 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM
I still blame the electorate, but mostly the women in the electorate. It's not like men are falling for these lying frauds.
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Yes I remember seeing shots of the dhimmi witch and thinking "what an embarrassment". Contrast that to when Oriana Fallaci, whom the left hated, interviewed Khomeini:
It's called self-respect, Pelosi.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM
Any male who behaves toward women the way Clinton did (sexual assault, taking advantage of power over a 22-year-old intern, etc.) is not a 'man' in any real sense, just a loathsome predator.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM
I've seen deranged, delusional, dishonest, dishonorable and others. How about "cowardly?"
Posted by: Danube on iPad | August 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM
Here's Kerry and the little woman dining with the Assads in 2009. No chadors.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10283045/John-Kerry-and-Bashar-al-Assad-dined-in-Damascus.html
Posted by: Extraneus | August 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM