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August 30, 2014


Man Tran on iPhone


As an outsider, but longtime fan of HP, that was my observation, too.

Some of it may have been an inevitable decline in a great company similar to Motorola. If you can't appease the banksters with good quarterly reports, then you are dead. That model drew in the CEOs who had no connection with the core of their company.


Carly went from regulated big phone to free market tech. She did about as well as a guy going from advocacy / asbestos non-removal to the Presidency.


Charlie Cook gives us a topo map of the House.

out of the 30 House incumbents we currently regard as vulnerable – that is, either in our Lean or Toss Up columns in our latest ratings – 22 are Democrats and just eight are Republicans. Of those 22 Democrats, 17 are freshmen who won narrowly in the favorable year of 2012 but now must prove they can withstand a much less favorable climate in 2014.”

Eric in Boise

HP did pretty well under her though didn't it?

I suppose that depends on who you ask. One issue was that HP was an engineering company that had always been led by engineers that worked their way up through the engineering ranks. Carly was the first CEO who was an outsider/celebrity, and was a terrible fit for the company culture.

As one of my managers said at the time, "If she was our Director of Marketing, we'd probably love her."

Danube on iPad

Lugar's case is astounding. He sold his Indiana house in 1977 [!] and bought one in D.C. Thereafter, each time he renewed his Indiana driver's license he used the address of the house he had sold. According to him he had the opinions of two attorneys general that the use of that address on his license satisfied the inhabitant requirement. I would love to see those opinions.


She went to free market tech and had hp get involved in various pushes towards a managed capitalism in partnership with governments. Basically trying to replicate the big phone or utility vision and then 'supporting' education initiatives to try to make it so.

State Capitalism is definitely something Big Blue, HP, SAS, MS, Intel, and Cisco are all actively lobbying for and involved in K-12 on policy-making levels trying to push. Much easier to hire lobbyists or former politicos than come up with a good idea people will voluntarily purchase.


a village is missing it's idiot:


really was there a bigger priority than not letting Zarquawi's outfit to consolidate territory, where precious blood was spilled, and limbs lost,

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

That Jim Miller link that Rick posted is very good.
Again, this link is something too - http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100284604/the-self-loathing-of-the-british-left-is-now-a-problem-for-us-all/

"Why? Because too many in that country, especially on the Left, most especially in the Labour Party, despise their own ordinary people: the white working classes."


"What kind of message does Straw’s statement send to everyone else? It says that the English are dislikeable, that they are to be feared, and contained, to be treated with contempt. It says that the ordinary English are a nasty race who need to be diluted by mass immigration; it says, in particular, that poor white English people are especially worthless."

This is the left in America too. They hate Americans.




The BBC reports on SEXISM and AGEISM from the UN.

Next month the UN will hold a Climate Change Conference in New York City, involving more than 100 heads of state and government.

The UN decided that they wanted to allow a citizen from somewhere around the world to have a chance to address those World Leaders, so they created a contest where interested folks could submit videos of the their proposed presentation.

But the catch? The contest winner must be a woman and she must be under 30 years of age.

Nobody else is allowed to apply. UN seeks 'Malala' on climate change

Five hundred people are to learn if they have won the chance to vent their frustration at world leaders over the stalemate on climate policy...The rules stipulate that it must be a woman under 30 - which the organisers say will give a voice to the next generation.

No Male Homosexuals allowed. No Transgendered. No young Black Males. No Women over 30.

Why are we taxpayers funding this discrimination?


TK at 2:16, good for the Saudis. When I read last night that the Saudis were warning EU and US about ISIS attacks, I thought to myself, well, why don't you guys do something about ISIS yourself? Ha, that was fast :)


All well and good, Mrs. Feinstein, but what was your reaction back then, Mr, Remmick, would you like to revise how you accepted that statement?

Danube on iPad

Hunch: McConnell will lose.


Well your campaign manager, Jesse Benton, resigning in connection with another scandal in Iowa, is not a good omen,

we should have tried to strangle ISIS and Nusra Front in it's crib, instead of providing recruits and materiel for them.

From that Al Monitor link earlier in the week, the current Saudi General Intelligence chief, Idriessi, ran their defense ministry's operations in areas like Jordan,
so the Peter Principle seems to apply in Arabic as well


For Ben, if you're interested, copy this: http://www.free-lebanon.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000178.html into the Stargate portal for April 2005 for a fun travel back into time, Damascus and Hims, and my favorites, Najjar and gkhouri.

Winds and events in the past can be changed and objects rearranged from outside of time :) Ahhh, there is so much one can do!


Hey, narciso, keep away from al-Nusrah, they're my guys :)

Jim Eagle


Doubt it very much. In fact, I see more than a 10 pickup. I think Franken loises. People I know who never talk politics all want to talk about what a disaster Obama and his party have become - Obamacare and the Border - no mention of foreign affairs,

Something is happening


--The project seeks to determine why “nearly three-quarters of adult lesbians overweight or obese,” and why gay males are not.--

I suspect the answer derived from asking your similarly chubby girlfriend "do these Mr Green Jeans overalls make my ass look fat" doesn't have quite the motivational effect of asking a guy about your little black dress.


Wapo headline;

Obama sets his own pace in a world whirling with crises


Everybody, back on your head 'all is well'


Karen DeYoung, has been legendarily wrong since she had her trapper keeper out for the Sandinistas, in the 70s

Jim Eagle

How about that Gator v. Idaho game last night?

One play, a 64 yd KO run back after a 3 hour weather delay and then the call it due to more lightning in the area. May try to make it up October 25.

Gives Muschamp a win during his SEC calendar beatings.


Speaking of Engineers, I found out this weekend, my uncle invented the floppy disc. He got about $29 for his idea from his employer, and took his wife out to dinner.

I have a vivid memory of him explaining what a computer was to my older sister over Christmas dinner and telling her one was the size of a building.


Jesus Minaret of Damascus - the tradition

"The Umayyad Mosque in the Old City of Damascus, Syria, at night. The Jesus Minaret is in the background. The Umayyad Mosque has survived many “Great Games” since being built in the 7th Century. It is sure to survive the Great Game currently being played in Syria. It is believed that a shrine inside the mosque contains the head of John the Baptist, venerated by Shi’a, Sunni, and Christians alike."

Excerpt from The Great Game and the Quiet Game

Jim Eagle

My Lord, McIlroy has hit two successive iron shots both to within gimme range at the pin and is about to climg up Jason Day;s back. I don't even think Tiger in 2000 had a run like this and a skills demostration at the same time.

The USA better bring a better and bigger lunch to Gleneagels this year.

Eric in Boise

Gives Muschamp a win during his SEC calendar beatings.

That's going to be the textbook definition of a slattering, and I say that as a parent with two kids who graduated U of I.


Morning Miss Marple,

Thanks for that fascinating Archeology story about the copper awl from ancient Israel. Great stuff.

Nothing new to report on the Macedonian Tomb Excavation, but NK's daughter might enjoy this local ongoing excavation:
Archaeologists rush to save Yup'ik treasures threatened by vanishing shoreline

the site provides evidence that people first lived there in the 1300s, Knecht said. Then the village was attacked and set ablaze around 1640 by a neighboring settlement during the region’s “Bow and Arrow Wars,”

The locals are excited, and this bit may need some explanation:

In a region where tradition says old treasures should remain undisturbed, the Yup’ik people of Quinhagak invited the archaeologists in.

Why? “Because we had nothing,” said Warren Jones, president of the village corporation, Qanirtuuq Inc., which owns the dig site land. Cultural elements, including language and traditional dance, were stifled by the Moravian missionaries and nearly lost, said Jones, a behind-the-scenes leader in Quinhagak, home to about 700 people on Kuskokwim Bay some 70 miles southwest of Bethel.

Growing up “all I heard about was the church stuff, not what our ancestors did,” he said. They had stories but not ancient harpoons, stone ulus or little figurines of mythical creatures.

After Alaska was purchased in 1867, the US Churches got together and decided to send Missionaries up to the new Territory to convert the Natives, so they divided Alaska by latitudes, (i.e. 60 degrees north to 62 degrees north went to the Catholics, etc).

In that lottery, these guys got the Moravians.


Jane, that's very cool. Would your average juice boxer know what a floppy disc is anymore? I think I'll put my treasure map on one... should be safe that way.


henry, if you use the old IBM 3740 format you should *really* be safe. Those were the old 8" floppies.

Jim Eagle


This link is for you:) Baby black bear. But even at his age those claws could made a plastic surgeon dream in technicolor:)



DrJ, got plenty of those... even 10 disc high capacity magazines. ; )


henry, I don't have the high-capacity magazines; only dual floppies that came with my dinosaur S-100 system. Those must be pretty interesting.


They came from S/36 & S/38 systems.

Jim Eagle

More JV Football games.



Simply for contrast:

Obama in his speech on Thursday:

Thursday: Well, first of all, I want to make sure everybody is clear on what we’re doing now, because it is limited. Our focus right now is to protect American personnel on the ground in Iraq; to protect our embassy, to protect our consulates, to make sure that critical infrastructure that could adversely affect our personnel is protected.

Today: An Islamist-allied militia group says it has "secured" a U.S. Embassy compound in Libya's capital.

Danube on iPad

Hope you're right, JiB. As you know, I tend to err on the side of pessimism.

On this date in 2010 the GOP led the generic ballot by seven. Today they trail by 1 1/2.


Have you heard about Obama's new diet? He let's Putin eat his lunch every day!

Thanks Texas Liberty Gal, That's a great line.

Old Lurker

I see the glass half empty too, with DoT.

Eg. We approach the end of the August recess and I do not recall a single report of Tea Party like anger aimed at the Congress Critters in Town Hall Meetings. Sure I know why Dems would hide but shame on the Reps for not talking up their alternative vision.

Oh. Wait.


Would your average juice boxer know what a floppy disc is anymore?


I just don't remember them ever being "floppy". Do you?

Old Lurker

Jane Jane Jane.

Before they were in those small hard cases, they were floppy larger plastic discs in heavy paper sleeves.



As part of a legal settlement that will allow some illegal immigrants who deported themselves from Southern California to return to the United States, the federal government has agreed to advertise the settlement on various Mexican and Spanish-language media outlets.

The ACLU filed a class-action lawsuit last year on behalf of eleven illegal immigrants who deported themselves. The settlement reached on Wednesday will only cover "longtime California residents with relatives who are U.S. citizens and... young migrants whose parents brought them into the country illegally" who deported themselves between 2009 and 2013. An ACLU official has indicated that there were nearly 250,000 people who were "deported voluntarily from Southern California between 2009 and 2013" and estimated to the Los Angeles Times that the "number of repatriations could reach into the hundreds or thousands."

The U.S. government, through ad buys online, in print, on billboards, and on radio stations, will hope to reach "friends and family of the affected class" in Southern California and Mexico. According to the settlement, the federal government will advertise on television channels like Univision, ESPN Deportes, MundoFox, El Universal, and the Univision Deportes Network. They will also partner with People en Espanol and even the Mexico National Football Team in addition to placing billboards "in high population Mexican border cities of Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali, as well as focusing placements near border crossings."

U.S. officials will also place "radio ads :60 in length... on top Spanish speaking radio stations near the Mexico/U.S. border." Those who search for "Lopez Case," "Lopez Class Action," "Voluntary Return to Mexico," "Rights for Detainees," "Detained by ICE," and "Returned to Mexico by ICE" will also be targeted with information about the settlement.

Jim Eagle

Thanks to floppys all my secrets are safe:)

Old Lurker

Tax $$$ at work:

Drudge "Government publishes detailed instructions on how to safely roast marshmallows"


Baby black bear.

Cute as pie, Jack.

Per Momma's instructions I'm doing a long walk today, so in a few minutes the pups and I are off to find this guys brothers and sisters, and hopefully we come up empty.

In 1967, IBM gave their San Jose, California storage development center a task to develop a reliable and inexpensive system for loading microcode into their System/370 mainframes in a process called Initial Control Program Load (ICPL).[3] The System/370 was IBM's first computer system family to make extensive usage of volatile read/write semiconductor memory for microcode,[4] so for most models, whenever[5] the power was turned on, the microcode had to be loaded (System/370's predecessor, System/360, generally used non-volatile read-only memory for microcode). IBM also wanted inexpensive media that could be sent out to customers with software updates.[6]

IBM Direct Access Storage Product Manager, Alan Shugart, assigned the job to David L. Noble,[7] who tried to develop a new-style tape for the purpose, but without success. Noble's team developed a read-only, 8-inch-diameter (200 mm) flexible diskette they called the "memory disk", holding 80 kilobytes of data. The original disk was bare, but dirt became a serious problem so they enclosed it in a plastic envelope lined with fabric that would remove dust particles.[8] IBM introduced the diskette commercially in 1971.[9][10]



Jane, I remember using a cassette tape recorder before using floppies, and mag cards the size of a credit card before that (and of course punch card decks and paper tape before any mag media). I completed the transition from model railroads to computers by 8th grade -- which is a good thing because toy trains don't pay as well.

Old Lurker

I have no muscle memory for swinging a golf club, but I am positive I could find my pace on a card punch machine and a paper tape machine in my sleep.

Just like I can type seven characters then rt arrow when typing text into Visicalc cells.

Jim Eagle

I did my masters on a 5" floppy which I have preserved for Frederick. I have no idea on how he will ever read it but since he is now experimenting with developimg artiiciical blood I don't think it will be a challamge.

BTW, his birthday present beside his surfboard is a digital microscope that can hooke up to his MacBook. Expect the cure to cancer by Christmas.

Stephanie a proud athletic supporter...wut?

In the basement, Radio Shack trash-80 with 3 10" floppy drives. 64k per disk. And the daisywheel printer and shell cover for noise reduction

An elegant system for its day. Still have the VisiCalc, DB and WordPerfect software somewhere, too.

How bout a CompuServe portable computer? Only weighs about 12 lbs with a mighty 7" computer screen.

Apple II C? Yep.

Basement is a frigging museum of dinosaurs.

Jim Eagle


You need to go eBay. That stuff wil pay for you new summer kitchen.


ISIS Displaying a Deft Command of Varied Media

The extremists who have seized large parts of Syria and Iraq have riveted the world’s attention with their military prowess and unrestrained brutality. But Western intelligence services are also worried about their extraordinary command of seemingly less lethal weapons: state-of-the-art videos, ground images shot from drones and multilingual Twitter messages.

Gee. Some of them are smart?

How many foreign jihadis have been educated in US colleges since 1980? Thousands?


"Government publishes detailed instructions on how to safely roast marshmallows"

Old Lurker, I think Moochelle must have gotten to them before the Instructions actually went to Press.

Here's from the actual Govt Issued Instructions:

...there are some innovative ways to roast the little white treats that can help cut down on the amount of sugar intake by the kids, thus making bedtime a little more doable.

Think fruit.

Even if the kids – including us older ones – insist on more traditional s’mores, there are some healthy tricks. Grill thin slices of pineapple and substitute chocolate for the sweet, warm fruit. You will still get a tasty treat but by substituting with fruit, it is healthier – as long as you watch the amount of marshmallows used. If you want to cut down even more on calories, try using slices of angel food cake instead of graham crackers.

You can also get a little inventive and move away from s’mores.

Grab a small bag of chocolate or peanut butter chips – or a combination of the two. Take a banana and slice one side open, exposing the fruit but leaving the peel intact. Slice the banana, add a few chocolate chips then top with tiny marshmallows. Or substitute the chips for blueberries from the local farmer’s market. Place the banana in aluminum foil and wrap tightly. Place the foil-wrapped fruit next to but not on the flames. Wait five to 10 minutes or enough time for the chips and marshmallows to melt. Open and enjoy with a spoon.

I'm not making this up.

And I would love to know how much we are paying Kathryn Sosbe, Office of Communication, U.S. Forest Service, who apparently is the publisher of this important Govt information. And has it been translated and posted in Spanish and Yupik?

Why the hell not?


8" floppies

I have a number of them. With the S/36 OS on them.

I also have OS/360 microcode manuals. I once wrote a software simulator of the microcode division routine in OS/360 assembler.

They don't use that much anymore.


How bout a CompuServe portable computer? Only weighs about 12 lbs

I think my Osborne transportable in the basement weighs 14 lbs.


Jane Jane Jane.

Before they were in those small hard cases, they were floppy larger plastic discs in heavy paper sleeves.

Clearly I am very very very young!


I knew a guy who was making about $250K/yr working from home writing assembler code for banks less than 10 years ago, sb.



I have no idea on how he will ever read it...

You'd be surprised. I have my Ph.D. thesis stored on an eight-track tape that looks like an open-reel high-fidelity tape. I needed some numerical routines off of it, so I wanted to have it transferred to something I could read.

I found a fellow in the Festus MO who happened to collect old VAXen. So of course he had the proper drives, and the tape itself was in standard Unix tar format which was fine.

After sending him the tape, I got a CD back a week later, together with the original tape.

I note that the tape had been in unkind storage for about 20 years, and it was read without any issues. I don't think any of the methods used currently would be as forgiving.

I'm sure you can find someone to read your floppies. Heck, I have 8", 5.25", 3.5" here, though we did just toss some old iomega high-density floppies.

Jim Eagle

BTW, Megan Ripinoe and Amy Wambach are not obese.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Nothing says GOPe like McConnell losing his race after meddling in Cochran's.


. . . next to the carrying case of IBM punch cards of assembly code, PDP-11 paper tape, and 1/2 inch magnetic tape.

My friend says the working PDP-11/45 he kept from where we worked on computer graphics is now inventoried by the Dutch government as an historical artifact.

Old much?

Jeff Dobbs

As seen in downtown Greensboro today:

Joke's on them - they misspelled Kaaaayyyyyrrrroooo!!!

Stephanie a proud athletic supporter...wut?

Anyone have the video game "Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" on Apple?


I've thought about it, JiB. There's also a Wang word processor there too I think. Weighs about 100 lbs in its nifty cabinet.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Anybody remember Star Flight?

Jim Eagle


I correct myself, o f course we can convert floppys to dvs or dvds but I was experiencing a 1980's dream episode

I actually have it in its original three prong presentation folder and he has reasd it and tells me that I gorgot about Norbet Weiene's warnings on taking too much logic for grantred:)



The greater problem you would have is finding software to read whatever format you have on the floppy. Wordstar anyone? How about Final Word?

Captain Hate on the iPad

I think my will is on a floppy although there must be a hard copy somewhere that was witnessed.


Anyone have the video game "Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" on Apple?.

My brother has it (or had it, not sure) with his Apple II ser #126.*. It came with "peril sensitive sunglasses." I think he got it when he ditched the cassette player and got a floppy drive.

* you used a control sequence to tell the CPU which slot to boot from. A great way to intimidate a**holes who thought they were computer repair experts was to bring it in, turn it on, and watch them wait for an auto boot. It also had the keyboard controller card under the hinge, so care was required when working on it.

Jim Eagle

Good God, I have completely forgotten what program I wrote that in. Yikes!

Jeff Dobbs

I did my masters on a 5" floppy which I have preserved for Frederick.

Is that his 11th b-day present? (please don't spill the beans on what day it is)

BTW - what's your regulation pool table story? If by regulation you mean 9 foot tables, that's the size of tables at my bar for league play as well as the tables at the tournament bar.

And FTSAH, in the tournament last night I came in third. Second week in a row in third.

Miss Marple

I worked in the just-started computer mapping department at the coal company. We would take all of the drilling information and give it Juanita, who sat in a little room and did punch cards with all of the drill hole information.

Then it got read into the computers, which were about 6 feet tall and 3 feet wide and had to be in a temperature controlled room.

Then I ran a program on this big thing that looked like a teletype machine with a keyboard.

After the program ran, we took the data which was on a reel and shipped it to Compuserve in Columbus, Ohio, by GREYHOUND BUS!

Then Compuserve used the information on the reel and ran a program which allowed it to draw (with pens on a giant board like robot writing) a coal thickness map.

Then they would roll the map up and ship it back to us by BUS again.

This was 1978-79.

I often think of that group when I sit hear at my keyboard, loading pictures and writing my eBay descriptions. In 1979 we took delivery of one of the first PC's IBM made. It was very buly and could only do a few things, but the programmer in our department was tickled to death. (I wasn't allowed to touch it because it required a high level of expertise. LOL!)

Boy, times sure do change!


I hope the 10-year-olds aren't reading tonight. They'll think we're pretty old.



They'll think we're pretty old.

Think of it this way: we were there at the birth of the revolution. Now it is all mainstream, like McDonald's.


I don't know about the 5" but there are hundreds of 3.5" external floppy drives with USB connections at Amazon.

Had to save some of Baby Ig's early computer art work last year. Worked seamlessly.


Very few of them could handle source code & compilers, let alone assembler or microcode. Even fewer could change out spark plugs. They got us on feather passing though.


Ig, also USB frames for hard drives of 5.25" and 3.5" for bulk portability of older stuff.


I have one of these laying around here somewhere:

Compaq Portable 486C - YouTube


Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet

Wordstar anyone?

My first personal portable computer was an Osborne 1 which I purchased @ 1981-1982 because one of my clients had one. It weighed in at around 25 pounds. One great feature was it came with all software including Visicalc and Wordstar already loaded. Two eight inch floppies and a minute 5" screen. Here's a link about the details:


In 1993, I got a HP Omnibook which was a super small portable. Again it had a bunch of software preloaded and was a wonderful instrument:



I have Wordstar on 5.25 floppies, plus manuals. I never toss licensed software.



The Osborne had 5.25" floppies. Terrible capacity (320K?) when compared with the 1.2 MB 8" ones.



I still have the floppies for my alpha test of Adobe Acrobat.

Danube on iPad



DrJ, as a 34 year veteran of selling software to others I wouldn't touch an alpha release with your thumb drive. ; ) That is cool though.

Danube on iPad

Nothing says suicide like the Libertarian getting on the Kebtucky senate ballot.

Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet

Henry reminds me that the floppies on the Osborne were 5,25.





Of course the alpha version of Acrobat was terrible. A friend from grad school headed the development effort, though, so I got a copy and gave a lot of input to make it better.

Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet

Dr. J I didn't refresh before correcting, so didn't see your post. Of course you are right.




Stephanie a proud athletic supporter...wut?

I decided to learn forth when I was in college just for fun. It made my head hurt. Stack notation. Ugh.

I'm so rusty in Cobol but I've been reading that there is a rising demand for old school programmers as the "whiz kids" don't know it and it's not taught anymore. Anyone else seen anything on the revenge of the dinosaurs?


well you can't expect him to get it right, ever;


Stephanie a proud athletic supporter...wut?

New thread



Extraneous, I saw a prototype PC that had Ken Iverson’s APL as its native language. Wonderful stuff. Wish it had taken off.


Idiocracy rules.


I've got an Apple laptop that has OS 9 point something on it just to run Adobe Streamline. Love that software and it's never been replicated the same way...darn it.

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